Witch Beam Says PS4 Makes 60 FPS Easy; Internet Overreacts

Internet overreacts to developers' statements about the PS4's technical prowess.

[Kingthrash360]

well because the internet knows more than the dev who actually works on the console.

things internet also knew:
jackie chan died
twerk girl burned herself
world ends 12/12/12 or 12/21/12 or 1999 or 2000
i can go on...bin laden alive
jay-z and other rappers are illuminatti
tupac alive & elvis alive
michael jackson black..but had white kids
jordan is a alien
kobe DIDNT rape slutty chick
miley cyris isnt an embarrasment

...ect...ect
the internet is always right
/s

[GameNameFame]

- floods of devs saying PS4 is more powerful.
- Spec analysis from both Andandtech and Digital Foundry says PS4 is far more powerful.
- If you really need to know, you compare spec and PS4 is clearly more powerful.

Yet, X1 fanboys either grasp at super triple GPU stories or say "oh this dev dont know" "that dev dont know what he is saying" "oh spec does not tell all story" "oh analysis by reputable site is a lie"

PS4 is more powerful by night and day. Get over it. Most of X1 exclusive cant even run 1080P.

[FlameHawk]

Just by comparing the specs people should know by now PS4 is more powerful and we know that the Xbox One doesn't have any secret double GPU or whatever bull people were making up.

[TheVideoGamHer]

Every fanboy grasps at straws and downplays. That's why they're fanboys lol.

[DragonKnight]

What's funny is that the dev says his comment was taken way out of context but it actually wasn't. He provided the context in the quote. He said, and I'm quoting him,

“From a pure tech perspective it’s undeniable that the PS4 GPU will make it the most powerful console in the world and for us that means we can turn on every visual flourish we want while keeping a smooth & responsive 60fps. We’re focused on every version running at 60fps including Vita, frame rate is king.”

Right there he establishes the context by saying the PS4's GPU will make it the most powerful console in the world, that they can turn on every visual flourish they want. That sounds like IN ADDITION to 60FPS.

So what it looks like is that he said what he said (and meant it) then realized the potential problems it could cause in the future and back peddled by saying people misunderstood the context in which he was speaking. But no one did. He literally said "the PS4 will be the most powerful console in the world." What is ambiguous about that statement at all?

[UncleGermrod]

SO i take it this must make you a PS fanoby? Here you are saying all this night/day BS when you have never witnessed either system. Judging by specs alone...it is not night and day. It's like having 2 similar gaming PC's which handle the same types of games, but one can more easily play said games at certain resolutions. That also doesn't mean xbox one games will not handle 1080p. "Night and Day" would be like wiiU compared to the new consoles. Get real man. You sound uneducated, biased, and immature....aka fanboy. And people keep with all this Double GPU business. That's been confirmed false for weeks. The only problem here is that devs can't even praise a powerful piece of tech without all the fanboys losing their minds and claiming that suddenly it means everything else isn't up to snuff. Both consoles are powerful enough to the point that the specs should not be doing the talking. If you haven't noticed, all fanboys basically sound the same. You guys are a joke.

[GameNameFame]

50 percent difference in tflop is ''similar''

Lol. You are my prime example of x1 fanboys trying to damage control.

[UncleGermrod]

lol fanboy huh?. listen moe, the reality both systems visually will offer up the same basic types of graphical abilities. I didn't say the ps4 won't be able to go further, just similar. It's not like the ps4 gpu will offer some kind of magic experience you couldn't have elsewhere. I am no fanboy, it just gets me mad people like you think you have some right to make broad, uneducated claims like "day/night" differences. I have always been, and will continue to be a multiplat gamer. I guess that's what happens when you work hard and can throw down for both consoles. I just don't like to read comments such as yours and not at least point out your absurd bias.

[NatureOfLogic]

These devs comments don't bother me, as I know they're only reassuring me that I made a smart choice with my money. So ready for Nov.15

[Eonjay]

I'm all for the PS4 but I too think that its creazy to go bonkers everytime someone tells you something obvious. We already know the PS4 is a powerful console. We also know that the Xbox One (while not as powerful) is still a very capable machine and the owners of both systems will be very happy with results at launch.

[Evilsnuggle]

No one is talking about the fact that the PS4 has 100% more ROPs than xbone. More ROPs will lead to a higher fill rate while ROPs work on all pixels (textured or not). An ROP is responsible for things like anti-aliasing and z-testing. Again, the more the better. PS4 will always have cleaner sharper textured than xbone. Like the comments that texture look muddy on xbone battlefield 4 and better on PS4 battlefield 4.

[UltimateMaster]

He said frame rate is king.
Meaning they want to prioritize FPS over Resolution.
Pretty sure they can get the 1080p on PS4.
The vita will probably be 540p as usual, it's the res they run the games at.

[Rimeskeem]

Xbox fanboy also is like

"specs mean nothing"

-_- are you serious?

[Kryptix]

The only people that are overreacting are the Xbox fanboys that can't take it when a developer makes a statement that the PS4 has better hardware.

Even when you look at things on paper, the PS4 has the much better hardware. Also how can people say, "it only looks good on paper" when developers have also been saying that the unified memory is much better to work with and adds no complex step. When a console is easy to work with, hitting the potential of it will also be quicker which will make the PS4 the lead platform next gen. Developers prefer simplicity because they want to make their games look their best before it gets ported. And the PS4 is not just easy to work with but also more powerful.

[TechMech2]

Power ain't everything, and fans shouldn't have to justify their purchase to random strangers because their opinion is different. Who cares if x1 fanboys or ps4 fanboys hate the other system. Hating another system that you would not own is the same logic as arguing about which company you throw your money at.

[Thunderhawkxbox]

If ps4 can't handle indie game to be 60fps then it's rubbish even wii u can handle 60fps I feel sorry for u sticking up for Sony lol

[mewhy32]

I completely agree gamename. When I say stuff like that I lose all my bubbles ROFL.

[UnHoly_One]

I don't deny for a second that the PS4 is a more powerful console. The PS3 was more powerful than the 360, as well.

My point is that doesn't make it a "better" console. That part is subjective, and depends on the player's personal likes and dislikes.

If "more powerful" automatically makes it better, then I have to ask you why you aren't gaming on PC??

[Keregan]

Lol floods of devs all working on indies games for Sony (because they receive a free dev kit :P) Now if witchbeam wasn't able to put their crappy game at 60fps they wouldn't be good devs that'S it.

Oh and, as it is now we didn'T see a single games running at 60fps neither on the PS4. The only things that come close to this is KZSF devs stating that it run at 60fps in multiplayer MOst of the time.

Sorry guys, but as it is now the PS4 as alot to proove and doesn't deliver much :)

[Sono421]

@The UnHoly_One

I think this should go without saying but the specs are compared because they are both new consoles in the next generation.. of course everybody is going to be curious who built the strongest machine.. it happens every generation, if your still confused by this I don't know what to tell you.. but the fact that you bring up PC just shows your a bit lost..
You can't compare consoles to PC's you just can't.. they are both completely different machines made for different purposes, this should also go without saying..

But I would like to touch on the fact that you believe people think the PS4 is better just because of specs.. well i'm here to tell you that your wrong.

The PS4 is better for multiple reasons.. now sure the launch titles are arguably equal but let's look past the launch.. who has an amazing track record for supplying multiple ip AAA games? Who has way more first party studios? The answer to both of those questions is Sony. I can count the 360's/Microsoft's AAA exclusive ip's on one hand. The same can't be said for Sony, and while were on the games subject let's not forget the PS4 is getting indie support like crazy and PS+ offers a good amount of games both indies and exclusive AAA titles free. oops and I almost forgot all of the free to play games the PS4 is getting, I could look them all up and list them but don't feel like it.. you can do so yourself but I believe at launch there are atleast.. 5? free to play games available? maybe 4? not quite sure.

Now my final points im going to try to sum up to shorten this up a bit but as for features they are just about par except the Xbox One has TV and a couple minor kinect things like telling your heartbeat, but the PS4 has being able to take over your friend's game. That's about it though for features they're almost on par.

Now for the final point which is regarding the Online. 360 fans always love to claim their online is better when honestly.. this just isn't the case. I own both a 360 and PS3 and iv'e experienced more problems on the 360 regarding online than on my ps3.. and I even play it less. So that's more problems with less play time, so how can you possibly claim that is better? My guess is most 360 fans who say this don't even own a PS3 nor have they played one online and they simply assume "oh i'm paying for it so it must be better" which isn't the case at all.

Now in closing let's not forget that the PS4 has all of this.. the Specs, the games, the features, the online.. all with a $100 cheaper price point not to mention you pay less per year for online. The choice seems obvious if you forget about the brand loyalty thing.

So there.. That is why the PS4 is better.. thank you for your time :) the whole hour and a half ;)

[malokevi]

How did you manage to make this about Xbox One and MS fanboys?

Why are you so angry?

Do you ever stop and ask yourself "why am I typing this?"

[linkenski]

...and BF4 can't even run 1080p on either console.

[HighResHero]

I laughed reading through that list.

Also, the PS4 could probably achieve 60fps in most games easily with its' specs, 8 cores, custom architecture, etc. Obviously....

But more importantly it will likely have lots of great games.

Anyway I just ordered a Vita and I think PS4 is sexy at the moment.

[_FantasmA_]

Actually Kobe didn't rape that chick. She had sex with like 2 others dudes. She was a hoe who wanted money. And I live in Denver. People here hated him and booed him everything he had the ball but I didn't. You can't blame a guy for falling for a hoe's tricks.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

Never kiss a how in the mouth if you do be careful

[Magicite]

PS4 = First True Full HD Gaming Console.

[linkenski]

In our "HD" gen, which is current-gen, the biggest tech-marvels ran at sub 720p which was the target resolution for most titles.

I'd argue PS3/X1 is gonna have the same issue where target is 1080p but a lot of games pushing the hardware is gonna run sub 1080p, some 900p and some back to 720p.

4K or not, I'm keeping my 1080p/720p tv.

[PopRocks359]

The thing I like about this article is that essentially a lot of gamers' issues with hardware would be alleviated if people would just shut up and wait for the games to come out and THEN judge them.

This dev says this about PS4, then that one says another thing about Xbox One. As someone who is interested in a PS4 and only a little interested in Xbox One, everyone needs to STFU and wait for the games to come out rather than clamor to any dev that said something they like or didn't like to hear.

[TheVideoGamHer]

Exactly. Obviously entering a new console generation is exciting but people are grasping for straws as every little bit of news. It's annoying.

[UncleGermrod]

I agree. All the guy said is that the ps4 is the most pwoerful...duh. He didn't then go on to say that xbox one is a joke and everyone who wants it should die. I mean why can't people talk about the tech with out everyone making it some penis size contest right away. I loved my 360 this gen, but i had ps3 and also enjoyed that. I has no prob admitting that the ps3 was a bit more powerful, but that didn't seem to make the difference. So why should it be different now. Everyone just wait it out and enjoy your games.

[miyamoto]

well someone got a hurt real bad...

M$ PR dept started this media buy out misinformation campaign flame war against the ps3 even before it came out in the USA back in 2005 to the present and opinionated people who saw through that 'shady' tactics ain't gonna let them get away with it this time around.

M$ used the power of the internet but they under estimated millions of anonymous Sony, Google or Apple fan's power to wield the same power against them

they started the fire and we will finish M$ with it!

its people power rage against the M$ machine!

[Hicken]

People are interested now as it affects their purchasing decision. It affects their confidence in the $400+ they're about to spend.

If more developers come out praising the PS4(or XB1, for that matter), then people considering it can feel comfortable that it won't lag behind when it comes to the games: it won't miss out on titles, or have inferior ports. And they can feel assured that the hardware is capable of bringing some experiences they've yet to come across.

People like justifying their purchases; developer comments is just one way of doing that for consoles.

Why is that such a problem?

[PopRocks359]

So in other words, you're A-okay with immature fanboyism that leads to petty squabbles and people attacking each other over who said what just because.

I don't mind these developer statements but this dev makes sense; gamers on the internet take this information way too seriously and it gets way out of hand and they use it to act like elitists who are superior to others. I already know that the PS4 is more powerful than Xbox One. It doesn't mean I'm going to be a jackass and shove it down the throats of fans of the Xbox Brand, or vice versa when EA says something bad about the PS4 version of Battlefield.

[Kryptix]

@PopRocks

He never said he likes immature fanboyism and people attacking each other. He said that he likes it when developers make sure that you are making the right decision by letting out statements instead of keeping it all secret and in the dark.

When a fanboy says X but a developer says Y, X is eliminated and so far almost all the time, Y is that the PS4 is better and easier to work with. I don't think the fanboy should stick with X but that's the problem with the internet...people believe in their own lies or other's and that can make things worse and result in arguments. The real main problem is fanboys not accepting truth then you have another person trying to do the right thing and try to correct them so others don't read the comment and believe them. That's how the Xbox dual GPU rumor came into circulation because fanboys make things up and you don't have a lot of people to correct them. And when they finally buy the console, they'll see that they have been misled because nobody was there to prove that there was no dual GPU all along. There's fanboys, then there's people just telling the truth. Not saying one side is free of fanboys, but I believe the Xbox fanboys try really hard to play down the truth just to justify their purchase. Even when most developers say this, they believe in the opposite for no real reason.

[Evilsnuggle]

Sorry I missed that article that said the xbone one 80 is the most powerful game console now or every. All the article i read say the PS4 is far superior to the xbone one 80 in hardware. Post me a link please that xbone is more powerful than PS4.

[PopRocks359]

Did you or the fourteen other nimrods that disagreed with my comment even read it? I didn't say anything even suggesting Xbox One would be powerful, let alone more so than PS4. I said it's stupid how people keep grasping for straws and looking at every developer statement with a magnifying glass to give 'points' to their favorite brand.

If you somehow got Xbox Defense Force from my comment then you have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever.

[pete007]

Keep your power close to your@ss as long as you Keep behind on all the rest. Online, connectivity, innovation, etc

[Lovable]

Internet overreacts on everything. Make things so interesting and entertaining.

[TheVideoGamHer]

Haha. Granted, I'm not sure where I'd be without the interwebs.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Easily 60fps? Doesn't that depend on y'know, the game itself as well? What a stupid thing to say.

[BitbyDeath]

"I'd like anyone to find a source willing to say that the PS4 is not the most powerful console. MS aren't saying it." - Witch Beam

https://twitter.com/Sanatan...

They aren't backing down from it unlike what this article is trying to say.

[Xsilver]

hey there the devs i'll listen to them over any fanboy.

[thebudgetgamer]

The internet never over reacts. (Looks up), oh.

[BobBelcher]

Crytek devs say that Ryse would have ran the same on PS4 and folks are up in arms to tear apart his claim.

[TheVideoGamHer]

It's a big popularity contest. Video game high school lol.

[BobBelcher]

lol, 'hipsters.'

[snp]

del. Second thoughts, this whole debate is stupid.

[thebudgetgamer]

That might be that smartest thing I've read all day.

[Ch1d0r1]

I guess i missed that article. They probably said that because their cheap asses would not put the effort into making the PS4 version better.

[Hicken]

More likely, it's because they couldn't well come out and say, "Yeah, it would look and run better on PS4 than XB1."

That'd be... well, unprofessional, for one. But also rather damaging, for another.

[AceBlazer13]

everyone knows crytek is just bullsh1tting the community with that claim in order to save face.

[Juste_Belmont]

Graphics and 60 FPS don't make a game good. Sure, they can make them look better, but if they aren't fun does that even matter?

[ericutz4thewin]

So true!

[ZBlacktt]

Internet Overreacts????? No way???? Just look around. Look anywhere on this worldwide web. All that sticks out for the most part is screen names bitching and complaining. Never happy about anything. Even when they are not interested in the game they feel the need to post crap about it every way possible. With many so not even fully educated on what they are bashing. Seems like people use the web to vent when their own lives have personal problems. Yet they it out on games that developers are working hard to provide us.

[JuniorCE]

I just don't get the xbone's fanboys... Every single day we read articles of a developer saying the same thing about the PS4 being better and more powerful than the XBone... Even though, Xbot trolls still in denial... which is so sad...

[clouds5]

Xbox 1 is a better deal at Xmas because it has way more interesting games at launch.
But both of the line ups such ass. I'm happy with my pc and wii u but If I could get another console I'd get the ps3. So many good games. The ps4 will mildly entertain for 2-3 days (killzone) and then what? And all the multiplats have amazing graphics on pc or better gameplay/map features on wii u.

[Thegamer41]

You're basing your opinion as fact, Xbox One launch games are not better.
I prefer the PS4 launch line up but I don't go around saying that as if its fact. People really need to know the difference between fact and opinion.

[clouds5]

You're right I didn't point that out clearly enough (was writing on my phone :P).
Of course my previous comment was my OPINION. What I care about with gaming systems are the games and pretty much nothing else. I don't do brand loyality or fanboyism, or at least i try not to. And PS4/XB1 exclusives do not interest me PERSONALLY at all so far, ergo I'm not gonna buy either of them.
That doesnt mean that I dislike the systems themselves or the companies behind them.

Just a quick example: I really disliked the PS2/PS3 because of the gamepads. It gives me cramps. But I do own a PS2 (played most of the games on PC though with emulation-->1080p and 360 pad) and I'm seriously considering a PS3 now because of the amazing games that are on it and still coming out. But the PS4 first has to prove itself to me by showing me some interesting games. And I've got a feeling that is not going to happen in the next 1-2 years.

[TechMech2]

Xbox fans are Xbox fans for their own reasons, just like ps fans. It's idiotic to care so much about which system other people enjoy.

[solar]

"It's idiotic to care so much about which system other people enjoy."

smartest thing ive read on here since both so called "Next Gen" consoles were announced.

+1 to you mate

[ziggurcat]

Is it really the internet or just misterx?

[jgrigs09]

Internet and fanboys on both sides of consoles, are ridiculous. You have the Sony fans saying the graphics make the game better, the kinect is some spy cam which it isn't just normal troll bullshit. Then you have the Xbox fans saying the Playstation is indiestation and lack games. Why can't people just say I prefer this consoles because of the games, and not the typical bullshit trolling comments. This website along with the others aren't as interesting anymore and lack mature comments. Reading these comments remind me of elementary bickering. Most likely I will get dislikes because I'm writing the truth.

[LoveOfTheGame]

The fact that you got disagrees at all for this statement shows the sad state of this site. People can no longer have mature debates/comments on what they like or relevant to the article at hand. If you want to see more mature comments, most times, look at the blogs on here. Hell even DragonKnight seems sensible in blog comments compared to article comments.

I am getting the X1 first because I like the games, features, and Live more than what is offered on the PS4. I don't know why that statement should be followed up by anything negative other than someone stating simply why they are getting the PS4 without chastising my decision.

[MajorMayhem70]

This is why I buy both consoles, so I don't have to worry about this sh!t. Fight on fools, fight on!!!

[victorMaje]

I want my PS4!

[MasterCornholio]

I think he's just referring to ease of development more than anything. Because if a system is easy to develop its easier to optimize the hardware to achieve 60FPS of that was your goal with the game to begin with. This doesn't mean that all games will be 60FPS it merely confirms that the hardware is very easy to develop for.

Nexus 7 2013

[solidboss07]

Big developers such as Polyphony's Kaz say 1080p @60fps will be the standard next gen. Of course there is nothing 'standard' about Polyphony who nearly get 1080@60fps this gen.

[Ryan508]

People saying specs don't matter??

If that was the case there would be no need for new consoles and we would all still be playing ps1/ps2 or xbox. Do your self a favour and think before you speak.

[infectedaztec]

Specs are obviously important for a console....but if they are the be all and end all for you then you should be getting a PC.

PS4 fans championing specs as to why its better than XB1 are at the same time admitting its inferior to PC.

I plan to get an XB1 (or maybe a PS4 but more likely XB1) for multiple reasons. If I was going on specs alone I'd get a PC - but I don't want a PC

Games, controllers, online quality, OS, kinect/eye, price and overall gaming experience is why I'll get a console.

There are games on PS4 and XB1 that are 1080p and 60fps and there are games that don't. 1080p and 60fps are nice but I'll be purchasing games based on the experience they offer.

Be happy guys - both consoles are an upgrade and will offer unique experiences! If I had the money I'd be buying both!

[UnHoly_One]

Somebody gets it.

Well Said.

[solar]

hey another adult! nice to meet you!

i try as hard as i can to understand the Console Fanboy Wars, i really do. it boggles my mind how the factions call themselves "gamers" since they are not.

[TheVideoGamHer]

This guy gets it!

[domford1981]

Wow, are you guys not sick of repeating the same arguments over and over?! It's simple, buy your console of choice, play, repeat, enjoy and STFU

[claudionmc]

Fat xbox and ps fanboys fighting xD

[UnHoly_One]

I love how every time there is one of these "60 fps" articles about the PS4, or anything talking about how easy it is to develop for, etc... It's always some simple little indie game.

It's hilarious to me.

[MRMagoo123]

yet there is no one at all saying it about the xbone at all huh , you know why that is? because indie devs are too bothered if MS gets angry at them for telling the truth but the big companies have to keep it neutral so they can sell their games. I know it may come to be a shock for Xboners but the PS4 will have the better performance its the way it is , the better hardware will perform better the same as a high spec pc will perform better than the consoles, there is no magic dust that MS can sprinkle on things to make the xbone better.

[UnHoly_One]

I have no doubt that the PS4 is a more capable machine. No need to get all defensive about it.

However, specs alone do not a great system make. Xbox has the advantage of have the best online service and the best controller. I'd say that should count for something.

And I don't need any indie devs to tell me what kind of FPS they can get on the XB1. I'll stick to worrying about real games.

[ghostrider32]

Console fans today:FPS, power, and graphics are so important.

PC gamer: We've been gaming in those resolutions before it was cool.

Console fans today: No they don't matter.

[solar]

and soon 4K gaming. hell i cant play at 1080p on my PC it looks shitty to me.

[MRMagoo123]

Yes all PC gamers have been playing HD games for years and years lol come off it and stop jerking your selves off , i have been a pc tech for around 17 years now i see people bring their pcs into my shop day after day , most of them cant even run wow in mid settings, i see maybe 1 out of 70 to 80 pcs that could run crysis with mods at all let alone ultra.

I know , you know ,we all know a high end pc will have better performance because of the specs, but we also know because of the specs the PS4 will run better than the Xbone because of the specs. Saying the pc will always be better means you also have to concur that the PS4 will perform better than the Xbone.

[ghostrider32]

I don't even game on PC. I was just stating what I sometimes see on N4G.

[assdan]

He said the truth???? How dare he! I'm tired of xbox fanboys getting so pissed off whenever it is said that the PS4 will be more powerful. Anyone with common sense would understand that it will be. That's just how it goes when everything in a system is made with higher quality parts. Then they'll jump on the "see I told you so, the xbox one and ps4 ARE the same power" band wagon whenever a dev says that the xbox one is "stronger than you think" or "the race is closer than the media is making it out to be." The saddest part about those quotes the xbone fanboys jump on whenever they here it is that every one of these quotes is either from microsoft, an exclusive dev, or the most pahetic, taken completely out of context. Like I've seen people try to argue the xbone is more powerful by quoting a dev comparing the xbone to previous gen consoles.

[ghostrider32]

It's sad but these gamers(most of them today only play specs and look down on anyone that have a different preference. Hell look no further than this website. 97% of the community don't know how to respect someone's preferences even when they have a clear mind.