'Wind Waker HD' Outsold By 'My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute: Happy End'

Hardcore Gamer: To be fair, we don't know exactly what this game is about, but judging from the images on the trophy list, we don't want to know. And there is no title with the words "happy end" and "cute little sister" that we would ever want to be anywhere near in the first place. This just sounds several different kinds of creepy.

[Donnieboi]

So what? It's not even the same demographic. How many times have the "Just Dance" games been the top selling games month-after-month? Doesn't mean anything. People who buy casual crap like that usually ONLY buy those kinds of games (*ahem* COD). Real hardcore gamers spread their dollars across several REAL hardcore games.

Edit: I don't know anything about "my little sister" game. So forget what I said.

[BosSSyndrome]

It's alright. You were correct even if it wasn't exactly relevant.

[abzdine]

i was really interested in the wii u zelda bundle but in the end i didnt buy it because it's a DL copy of the game inside, not the retail version.
i have nothing against digital games but i've heard Nintendo handle them poorly and if the console breaks down i can say goodbye to the game.

[Mr_Writer85]

I find it funny that Nintendo fanboys thought this would do amazing and sell consoles.

As good as the game is if it isn't Mario its niche.

Look at Zelda, Metroid and other Nintendo IP's that don't have Mario they do less then 7million which whilst still impressive is only 7% of the install base which proves my point.

[PopRocks359]

Refusing to acknowledge that no one has even talked about the digital release of the game which preceded the physical release by a solid two weeks and could have potentially taken a sizable chunk of the sales.

If you can say or provide any links that prove otherwise, I will gladly welcome a rebuttal.

[Mr_Writer85]

Poprocks.

You can't prove either way.

Prove to me that it sold more digital than physical.

[ShinMaster]

Unfortunately, games like Metroid don't get much love from Nintendo and so, the IP becomes weaker with the consumer.

And Zelda hasn't being doing that well since Twilight Princess, a game which I believe was going in a better direction overall despite some people complaining.
@ PopRocks359
Even Skyward Sword on the Wii which had the largest install base of any system at the time, sold less than other, newer and less "iconic" exclusive games on other consoles.
SS was a brand new game, not a remake. So do you honestly think the digital sales for Wind Waker HD are going to be any higher? And with a limited HDD space?
It just isn't as strong an IP as it used to.

[MazzingerZ]

I would buy a Wii U if RETRO made a HD remake of Metroid: Prime and I mean it, after that announcement I would start looking inte the WiiU's games library but right now PS4 is the only next-gen console I'm getting day one

[andrewer]

I'm a Nintendo fanboy and the only thing I thought was playing this game. Most Nintendo fans don't actually care too much about complicated stuff, we just want to play the games we love, that's all. So, this article is pretty pointless, and just flame for hits.

[PopRocks359]

So in other words I'm correct, it's just as possible. In other words, don't write off the sales of this game. Especially since no one has taken digital sales or the bundles into account.

Frankly I don't care how many disagrees I get. My logic is a hell of a lot more sound than your speculation.

@ShinMaster

Majora's Mask was also on the N64 which had less than half of the Wii's install base and that sold about as much as Skyward Sword did. At that point the Wii was running out of steam anyway. This has little to do with a lack of consumer interest and has plenty to do with A) Wii U's lack of awareness and B) the fact that Wind Waker's initial release was digital and about three weeks prior to this report.

[zippycup]

what Nintendo has fanboys i thought that was a Sony/Microsoft only tag

[Yi-Long]

It might have sold at least least one console (to me)...

... IF they would just bundle the system with the game ON A DISC, instead of as a download.

[Mr_Writer85]

@Poprocks

So you can't prove it sold more digital? Thought so.

So you are making stuff up. Therefore you lose all argument.

[browngamer41]

I don't know about fanboys and saving the system and whatnot but I do know that it's charting currently fourth in the uk and this is only disc sales and only for three days... http://www.nintendolife.com...

[Magicite]

lol @ Mario, dumbest character in video games history.

[_QQ_]

Pop Rocks can't prove it but neither can you silly guy, but you do realize people buying a wiiu to play WW HD probably purchased the Bundle which= online purchase... there is no evidence supporting either but the logical thing to assume is if WW was somewhat of a system seller, the systems it sold were the ones it came bundled free with?

[Mr_Writer85]

Lopez

Well if it is a 'system seller' that can be proved if the WiiU's sales increase dramatically (by say 400%).

So because you can't prove digital sales were higher that means they must be?

Sounds like fanboy talk to me. When The Last of US and now GTA became the best selling digital titles Sony announced this.

No one knows what it sold digitally so therefore you can't use that as a point.
Which is why I dismissed his point as its invalid as there is no way to prove he is right or wrong.

Unless you have the numbers you can't deal in facts it's pure speculation. I'm debating the FACTS. And cold hard facts will always trounce arguments that are made up.

[ShinMaster]

@ PopRocks359

You just proved my point. Zelda used to be a stronger IP. Majora's Mask sold more than Skyward Sword on the N64 which has a smaller install base than the Wii.
It doesn't matter if the Wii was running out of steam, it still had more than double the units sold than the N64. SS should have sold more. Where were the fans?

[Dmagic]

just because everyone plays cod does not mean its for casuals because before playing cod 4 was the best thing you could do before it was cool to hate it basicly what im saying is step off bitch :) from a True Hardcore gamer.

[Neonridr]

nobody said it was for casuals, but CoD sells millions upon millions of games, but sales don't determine how GOOD a game actually is. Otherwise Justin Bieber is the greatest recording artist out there.. lol

[Dmagic]

@Neonridr ohh please do name one shooter better than call of duty i will wait because it doesnt exist has it gotten kind of stale yes but its still top dog

halo has fallen off the last two have been horrible

gears of war was a one hit wonder with mediocre sequels judgment lol

bf is ok but no where near as good as cod

killzone ok never knocked me out my socks gameplay wise

nothing has challenged cod in a long while.

[360ICE]

@Dmagic
I don't know. I find pretty much all the franchises you mentioned more enjoyable than CoD recently. The last time I found myself thinking CoD looked tempting was MW2.

[ape007]

CoD 2,CoD 4 and mw 2 were absolutely amazing, BO1 was very good, the rest don't hold up to the legendary IW games

[frankiebeans]

Very relevant nintendos top franchise is being outsold by a crappy noname barginb in game end of story nintendos ship is sinking sadly

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Real hardcore gamers don't play "just dance"... we keep it real with Dance central 3

[Tzuno]

just dance has a huge fun and replay value than others games, you judge wrong. i had so much fun with girls with just dance that you will never have with your serious games. :)

[Magicite]

Lol, this is pathetic, no wonder Wii U is barely breathing.

[Knushwood Butt]

Trying to defend Nintendo by calling out people that buy, 'casual crap'?!!

I think I've read it all. Next, we'll have people trying to claim that the digital sales are through the roof...

Edit:

Oh no.

[Snookies12]

I would expect this to happen. That series is really popular in Japan. Not to mention it just concluded not too long ago. It's still fresh in people's minds. Plus it's on PS3. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more PS3 units out there than Wii U's in Japan at the moment. There are a lot of factors to this.

[Concertoine]

yeah it sold nearly 80,000 in US, which is pretty impressive, and thats probably not counting the bundles sold.
japan doesnt buy hd remakes anyway, and this game was never a big seller from the beginning.

[Concertoine]

@diagrees
http://n4g.com/news/1367077...
"The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (WiiU) 78,079"

[SilentNegotiator]

People are disagreeing with less than 80,000 being impressive, not that it would sell 80,000.

[TooTall19]

You said it SOLD 80,000 and then linked to an article that says it has 78,000 Pre-Orders. Do you really think nearly everyone that bought it has also pre-ordered it?

[Concertoine]

@tootall
Oops, youre right. I guess that would mean it sold even more then, and thats still not counting the 2 weeks it was digital only.

[abzdine]

yeah and if you look in % zelda might have sold more.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

HD remasters are not really big hits in japan. wiiU itself still has a small install base. And Im pretty sure the my little sister thing is popular in japan.

[KonsoruMasuta]

These guys don't even know anything about that game.

It is based on a VERY popular anime and novel series. They are judging it based on the name and description, which is wrong.

They know nothing of Japan!

[Snookies12]

Yeah, I agree. Judging something without even knowing what it's about is rather unprofessional.

[wishingW3L]

don't even try to defend this crap. The series has awful story and characters. The only reason is popular is because of the cute art and incest.

Most anime in Japan becomes popular just based on its art and nothing more, even the otaku themselves has admitted it on multiple polls on 2CH. But this trend really exploded like 5 years ago with animes like K-On and Lucky Star, and now like 80% of the new shows we get every season are just moe, mostly some shallow ecchi/moe.

[NihonjinChick]

You must not watch that much anime. I can name tons of anime that don't rely on moe. True, moe is very popular but it's not needed for a series to be successful. Moe also does not guarantee the success of a series.

[KonsoruMasuta]

I'm not defending anything. I don't even like this series, to tell you the truth. I like darker and grittier anime.

I was just pointing out that this is a very popular series and this game selling is no surprise.

Also, what's wrong with ecchi? I don't care for moe, but don't bash the ecchi man.

[Juste_Belmont]

There should be a new genre in reaction to all the cutesy stuff that comes out. We need mature, tough guy stories in Japanese animation that appeal to the real men in all of us (even the ladies). They can call it "manime"!

[Hicken]

Yeah, because 2ch represents the majority of anime watchers...

Where's the moe in Attack on Titan? Or Steins;Gate? Or Psycho-Pass? Or the Fate series? Or Gurren Lagann? Railgun and Index? SAO? Do I have to keep going?

Or will you break down the characters until you can glean something "moe" from them to try and make your point?

Yes, lots of crap gets made, the same as with movies, music and everything else. And some of the fluff winds up being popular. But taking a handful of examples and turning them into the rule rather than the exception is ignorant.

[ExCest]

@Hicken

Well, Railgun and Index use A LOT of moe/fanservice. The focus isn't on the moe/fanservice but hell, Biribiri is ultimate moe.

The Fate series has a *tiny* bit of moe.

As for SAO, guess who's ranking pretty high in the Saimoe internationals?

[Hicken]

Anybody from any series could, technically, rank in the Saimoe. Likewise, as I said, you can find something moe in anybody. Kuroki Tomoko isn't moe in the traditional sense, yet she's still become wildly popular. If someone points it out to me, I'll notice the moe in Index/Railgun, but the characters and story are all so much better than that.

The point is that he wanted to make it seem like, for years, moe has been the only thing any anime has focused on, and that's just not true.

[Snookies12]

You know this was a novel series first, right? It didn't get popular because of the art. There were very few pictures in the books. I read them a while back because they were actually pretty funny in a good way. You have every right to dislike the series. By all means. Though for what it's worth, I rather enjoyed the story/characters in the first few novels.

[Baka-akaB]

Dont bother guys , his schtick is to go around in the anime sister site and claim everything new is mostly bad in anime

[Crossbones]

LMFAO!!!!!

[wishingW3L]

from my perspective Japanese gamers have the most awful taste ever.

[KonsoruMasuta]

You have awful taste! You are just like the author of this article. You know nothing of Japan.

[Flutterby]

I agree , I live in Australia but my dream is to live in Japan , get a traditional house in the country side out side of Tokyo or something , just like the house in my neighbor totoro, the Japanese culture is by far my fav. I am not sure how easy that would be for me tho being not Japanese and all lol

[Eyeco]

Japan is a wonderful country...to visit, but if you're a foreigner or Gaijin as they say life is a little different, Japan is 98% ethnic Japanese making it one of the most homogeneous countries in the world, Japanese society has always been very resistant to foreigners, once your a Gaijin you will always be Gaijin and so will your children, you should look up discrimination against Koreans and Chinese living in Japan.

[SilentNegotiator]

Do you use that "You know nothing of Japan" line every time someone criticizes something Japanese, or just usually?

[dcj0524]

Flutter. Its hard being a foreign er in japan. Everyone stares at you lol (black :)) and they approach you awkwardly ( mostly anyway. Some of the are cool) if you can get past that its a nice place to live. I studied
There for 2.5 years.

[Qrphe]

West: bland shooters and empty open-world games
Japan: bland action rpgs and moe crap

Idk man, mainstream generic media is awful overall.

[Beastforlifenoob]

and also Japan: Gigantic ass swords

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Japan: school girls and tentacle monsters... :)

[matrixman92]

different =/= awful tase

[Misaka_x_Touma]

different culture. In my opinion Japanese gamers play variety of games than western. Most western just play their madden, cod, gta, nba, saint rows, assassin creed and so on.

[SegataSanshiro]

Lol at the replies to this comment...I legitimately don't know if they're being sarcastic or they're really fantasizing their weeaboo dreams here

[fsfsxii]

And you have the most awful comment ever.

[Blastoise]

What a catchy title

[STK026]

So, a game based on a very popular anime/manga series has outsold a game that has been released on a platform with a smaller install base in Japan. Anime/manga tie-ins are very popular in Japan and usually sell very well, and this is not the first nor the last time one of these game outsells the competition.

[CrossingEden]

Omg...you've gotta be kidding me. -_- This manga/anime whatever sounds absolutely disgusting.

[NihonjinChick]

It's actually not as bad as it sounds.

[CrossingEden]

Searched on google images and saw these, your post is bull
http://www.mangareader.net/...
http://i3.mangareader.net/m...
http://i21.mangareader.net/...

[Baka-akaB]

I dont like the serie , but i know it's too easy to pretend crap like this with a bunch of random pics .

Like the guy below i dont even need to look at them , i can already guess you picked some sort of racy , ero shots

[NihonjinChick]

It's not bull. As a fan of the novel and anime, I can confirm that the series is much more than whatever you showed in your three images.

I didn't even bother looking at whatever you posted.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Look at the pictures bro, its the most perverted thing. Who the f is perverted enough to read that or play the game, you would be able to play the game with a constant rockerific bonerooney.

[iMaim]

I thought the same too when I first saw that title years ago. And then I watched it.

Bro, you went full presumptious.

[weekev15]

Never go full presumptuous.

On topic, this article is clearly a troll baiting, Nintendo hating, ignoramus special.

[ritsuka666]

I agree. there's a lot of bad animes actually.

[imXify]

The great power of wincest right here !

[kratos_TheGoat]

japanese gamer are not a big fan of hd remaster plus wii u low fan base = low profit

[Misaka_x_Touma]

what does profit have tp do with this

[MidnytRain]

Profit = sales

[ajax17]

Seriously, Japan? The west and east will never truly understand each other.

[CaptainPunch]

I never understood Japanese culture, but to be fair they probably look at western culture the same way.

[DivineHand125]

This has nothing to do with culture. There are plenty of people in the west who would have probably chosen that game over the Zelda HD remake since the fan base outside of Japan is also very large but after seeing the trailer for myself I changed my mind. Something is definitely wrong over there.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[CaptainPunch]

I wasn't really talking about the people buying the game.

[thepatientgamer]

If you don't understand anything do not write an article. Research more, prepare your points, and if you have an opinion, then offer a well rounded analysis. It is not fair to either of the games mentioned, to have an author rag one game and compare its sales to another, whose console is also currently struggling, without understanding the culture of where the sales are taking place. Get it together.

[310dodo]

A new game in a popular series outsold a Gamecube classic thats being re-released.

wow thats weird

[RockmanII7]

"I don’t know exactly what this game is about, but judging from..."

Then don't judge the product if you don't know what it's about, actually do some research into it and looking at random in game images isn't research. OreImo is shit, but so are you.

[coolasj]

You guys must not know how big of a deal Oreimo is.

[SpiralTear]

Yeah, Japan LOVES Oreimo and has loved it for years. This really isn't something that should be met with such shock.

[Misaka_x_Touma]

Zelda doesn't sell well in Japan.

[Amigaengine]

Zelda in Japan was never a big seller so not even remotely news worthy.

Now if Zelda WW HD gets outsold by Zombie U in the West that would be a problem.

[Yep]

Not anymore: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/ra...

[truechainz]

sad someone even took the time to write this...

[Jagsrock]

Wanna know why? This is why....

[Thepcz]

the wiiu is a failure, everything would outsell wind waker at this point

[mcstorm]

So is the PSV a failure? Come on way too soon to say its a failure. Its had a slow 1st year after its launch month but with the games lineup it has over the next few months will improve the sales just like the 3DS did when it got the big name games.

[mohuzas]

if the WiiU is a faliure at this point then the PS3 must be one as well. obviously, calling the PS3 a faliure sounds retarded at this point. so yeah, wait it out before you judge will ya?

[AsimLeonheart]

The PS3 had sold about 9.1 million units in its first year from mid-November 2006 launch till December 2007, despite being sold for $600 and later $500. The PS3 was also receiving all the third party support along with a few exclusives. How is that a failure? In comparison the Wii U has not even crossed 4 million in its first year on the market despite being sold for just $350. Moreover, the Wii U has only sold 1.29 million units since January 2013 until now. The PS3 was not performing as bad as the media was making it out to be. In fact it has consistently sold more than the Xbox360 since launch globally. I mean to say that the PS3 and Wii U scenarios are not identical.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[MasterCornholio]

I never liked Wind Waker but I know that its a great game loved by a huge amount of people. But WTF is up with the other game? Judging from its name it sounds like garbage to me.

Nexus 7 2013

[Neonridr]

okay so the game just finally released on Friday in physical form in North America. I will be interested to see what the sales numbers look like on this side of the pond. Japan isn't super crazy over Zelda, they never have been.

Shame we can't see the digital sales, how many people got that Wind Waker Wii U bundle?

[ReubenPatrick]

I hate your ending Oreimo!

[kwandar]

Can't comment on the Japanese game referenced, but I can say that WindWalker's high scores were well deserved. I'm still in the middle of the game and loving it!

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

And there's more people playing Candy Crush than GTA5.

What's the point of this article!

[Acquiescence]

It hasn't been this commercially viable since Deliverance came out.

[wheresmymonkey]

actually the sale figures don't include digital sales, In japan, nintendo are running a promotion making all digital verisons of their software 10% cheaper,so it really wouldn't surprise me if more peopel opted to get it from the eshop instead.

besides i don't think nintendos current strategy is to make one definitive system seller but build a library of really good software that together will make owning a wiiU a very good proposition, this means there's plenty to play, they get to cater to lots of different people and it drives the consoles attchs rate up.

[Chrischi1988]

Nice hater article again^^ Actually I do not care much, I love that game and am glad, that I got the limited edition. It is still a remake and not a full blown new game. To talk about an IP not being successful anymore, because one game (Skyward Sword) wasnt as great as the ones before is really dumb to say. It is simply said not possible to always deliver something better. In my eyes Twilight Princess was a super game, Skyward Sword was ok, but this is still only a remake, so what do you expect? Wait for the real Zelda Wii U game, I hope it will be something really special. I believe it will.

[GiantFriendlyCrab]

hahahahaha whoooooo!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[MartinB105]

Here's a novel idea: Maybe if Nintendo didn't OVERPRICE THEIR GAMES they'd sell a few more of them?

I want Wind Waker HD, but there's no way I'm paying £40 for it when GTAV only cost me £35 and Beyond Two Souls is costing me £33. Nintendo, get your goddamn act together or GTFO.