DSOGaming writes: "Well, you gotta love AMD and its engineers. Mantle looks - in paper - amazing, however that's not the only thing the red team is currently working on. According to Graham Sellers, OpenGL guy at AMD, the red team will be supporting this open API with some high performance extensions that will offer almost similar performance to AMD's upcoming API, Mantle."
Last September, we unleashed AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3)1 on the gaming world, delivering massive FPS improvements in supported games.
So to put 2 and 2 together... FSR 3.1 is releasing later this year and the launch game to support it is Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart. In Sony's DevNet documentation it shows Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart as the example for PSSR. PS5 Pro also launches later this year... but there is something else coming too: AMD RDNA 4 Cards (The very same technology thats in the Pro). So, PSSR is either FSR 3.1 or its a direct collaboration with AMD for that builds on FSR 3.1. Somehow they are related. I think PSSR is FSR 3.1 with the bonus of AI... now lets see if RDNA 4 cards also include an AI block.
More details:
FSR 3.1 fixes Frame Generation
If you have a 30 series RTX card you can now use DLSS3 with FSR Frame Generation (No 40 Series required!)
Its Available on all Cards (we assume it will come to console)
Fixes Temporal stability
I've been using a mod that allows dlss frame gen on my 3080 it works on all rtx series. It'll be good not to rely on mods for the future.
I think that the leaks about the 5 Pro would debunk the notion that the two (FSR 3.1 and PSSR) are the same technology. PSSR is a Sony technology.
I wonder how much they fixed the ghosting in dark areas as Nvidia are leaving them in the dust with image quality. Still good that they are improving in big leaps, I'll have to see when the RTX5000 series is released who I go with... at the moment the RTX5000's are sounding like monsters.
Did you see the dell leaks were they are trying to cool cards using over 1k watts of power.
We are going to need 220 lines for next gen pcs lol
As much as I hate supporting Nvidia, AMD just doesn't even try to compete. Their whole business model is to beat Nvidia purely on price. But I'd rather pay for better performance and better features. AMD also doesn't even try to innovate. They just follow Nvidia's lead and make their own version of whatever Nvidia is doing. But they're always 1 or 2 generations behind when it comes to those software/driver innovations, so Nvidia is always miles ahead in quality and performance.
I do a lot of work on photoshop so an Intel Nvidia set up has been the got to because of performance edge, more expensive but far more stable too. Intel also have the edge over AMD processors with better load distribution on the cores, less spikes and jitters. When you're working large format you don't want lag or spikes when you're editing or drawing.
I do think AMD has improved massively though and whist I don't think they threaten Nvidia on the tech side they do make very well priced cards and processors for the power. I'm probably going with a 5080 or 5090 but AMD will get a little side look from me, which is a first in a long time... but like you said they are a generation or two behind at the moment.
While I can't argue for amd gpu, they aren't bad but they aren't great either. The cpu for amd have great. I would argue the 7800x3d as one of the best cpu for gaming right now. Idk about editing so I take ur word for that but gaming amd cpu is a great option these days.
@Goosejuice
I have a 7800X3D. It certainly is great for gaming. Though for video editing, rendering, etc, I think Intel have the advantage from what I remember. I just mean from a GPU standpoint I can't support them.
Now that the RTX 4070 Super has launched, AMD have chopped the price of the RX 7900 XT to new lows.
AMD has expanded its Fluid Motion Frames (AFMF) tech to Radeon 700M iGPUs which play a major role in laptops, handhelds & desktops.
The ideal FPS would be for Steam Deck 45fps which is boosted to match the 90hz screen. However, today's new games are not on that level even on the OLED version, so the successor to Phoenix Point needs to come out fast. The 2nd Gen Steam Deck needs a VRR screen as well to make this doable. 2025 should be the year for such a device.
Or you need to play games better suited for Steam Deck. What would be great is a more powerful version of Steam Deck with higher specs for latest games. But... it will take a couple of years, it seems, as Gabe is waiting for a real next gen Zen+RDNA really portable kit.
You are right, it really does come down to understanding what your Steam Deck can play and how. And that to me, is a bit of a pain to deal with. For a portable, I have zero interest in tuning anything, and just want to pick up and play. To do so in the PC space, you are correct, there needs to be a real next gen APU available.
That being said, I really appreciate there are these devices and can see how people like using them. To me the Steam Deck or any PC handheld should be a device which can continue the AAA games I play on my 4090 when I'm on the go.
Personally, I'm waiting for Strix Point, RDNA 3.5 at 16CU and an OLED VRR 90-120hz screen and better memory bandwidth. This should play AAA games at low settings at locked 40 or 45 fps which would be great already for a handheld. When Strix Point is out, most of the non-Valve PC handheld manufacturers have already sorted out the kinks in their software as well, so there should be a good maturity in 2024 or 2025 in these devices.
I do think, though, that Fluid Motion Frames will be a technique that these handhelds will benefit a lot from in the coming years as it spreads.
PS4 Will use OpenGL, this is great news.
Giving the headache DX a cold shoulder.
Multiplats will be more optimized for PC with OpenGL hence,
PS4 will benefit big time,
ps4 this ps4 that, this is good news for pc gaming and moving away from depending on microsoft.
This has nothing to do with PS4, Mantle API won't be on the PS4... PS4 has a low level OpenGL custom API.
PS4 OpenGL is upgradable so this could be useful very soon. I'm not sure why y'all are saying it doesn't affect PS4 when it does. It's like when a new DX update comes out it will most likely affect the X1 in a positive way. Software people, software.