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Xbox One facial data from Kinect doesn't leave the console

Those concerned about the potential for the Xbox One's Kinect camera to scan their face and upload that data to the cloud can breathe a sigh of relief. Microsoft director of product planning Albert Penello said in a NeoGAF post that this won't happen for privacy reasons.

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conjurdevil3853d ago

Sure!
But who gets access to the console?

Bzone243853d ago

I heard aliens from Neptune get full access to everyone's console. It's so cold there, they haven't got anything better to do than look at your mug.

NewMonday3852d ago

He is expressing a real concern, personal data attracts hackers, stop trolling please

HammadTheBeast3852d ago

Yeah, Neptune Space Agency.

Also known as NSA.

PFFT3852d ago

The NSA already has your mug and all the information they need. They dont need Kinect to track your every movement nor to keep tabs on you.
The moment you use a tablet or smartphone BOOM your info has been archived in the NSA.

JokesOnYou3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Hammad I like that; Neptune Space Agency= NSA. lol

Whats even funnier is that almost all of the same folks who are so "worried" share pics of themselves online, aka Facebook.

christocolus3852d ago

why are people so worried? this isnt an issue..does ms have to sign a blood oath with these guys before they drop this issue? and that guy asks "who has acess to the console" is he joking?ms just said your data is not going to be stored online and the next issue is now home security too?.... nice one hamad also glad to see the usual comments from pfft, jokes on you,craiiig,palaven and holy duck...lol

GameNameFame3852d ago

Chris before you go on full defense mode.

You know what goes on with NSA and etc? right?

Pogmathoin3852d ago

Newmonday, you telling him to stop trollin while you cleverly troll??? I guess in your case its Uranus space agency... USA.

christocolus3852d ago

@gamenamefame
defence mode? lmao....ok g.n.f. first off pls do not mistake me for some naive or ignorant fb like most of the guys in here..how many times does ms have to put this issue to rest?its frustrating..and its because of these guys ms made the deceision to remove the mandatory kinect feature.but yet dont people skype, dont they use social feeds,use pc cameras, upload photos and have phones constantly connected to the internet? the nsa has enough avenues to gather data already and dude i will defend ms whenever i see gamers act like whinny and unreasonable beings&imo ms should be given a break...so dude if that is being defensive..i plead guilty..

Pogmathoin3852d ago

Chris, these fanboys would not know the trees from the woods, its simply sony fanboyism at its most immature.... If X1 was perfect, it would still be garbage and anything Sony would be sexy.... No matter what.... These idiots really believe they are sticking it to the big man too.... Like Sony is Greenpeace!

nukeitall3852d ago

If you are in the US, most likely the government has all your information already.

Entering or leaving the US? Fingerprint!

Applying for new passport? Biometrics which include photo from several angles and fingerprint.

Personally, I would like for MS to store my facial info so I can log into any Xbox One without having to redo the facial scan.

BallsEye3851d ago

@newmonday

Stop trolling? The ones who say it's spying on you are trolling. American insecurity I guess. You think everyone wanna spy on you and see you taking a dump.

Gekko363851d ago

@newmonday He's not trolling. He pointing out that worries about privacy are the same as with your phone, your ps4, your laptop, your tablet. A casual stoll through London will have your face analysed and catalogued with impunity, however with privacy laws you're safe unless MS are instructed by court order... and don't forget that all corporations will have to comply.. EVEN SONY.

So chill out and if you're still going a little freaky deaky about it, chuck your phone, laptop, webcam, tablet and camera aware console in the bin.. safe in the knowledge that you dodged this particular bullet with aplomb. Oh and just incase, I'd give London or any major city a wide birth too, cos you never know!.

Maybe move to the countryside and live in a hut?

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NewMonday3852d ago

Consumers need full detail of data tracking, not just general information, the MS faq dose not provide compleatly full information

And data tracking should be turned off by default, MS shouldn't take advantage of casual consumers lack of knowledge on the issue

zeal0us3852d ago

You and them(MS), the NSA if they request it, and any other agencies that bypasses the Constitution

nunley333852d ago

nsa will have their backdoor built in for them just like ms put it into windows. hackers will find this just like how they found the ones in windows.

ForgivenZombie3852d ago

Why do you think they added Windows 8. Access already built in.

CRAIG6673852d ago

who gaf, 99% of people on here probably use facebook or some other social network, 99% of our faces are already in the realm of the internet,why is it the end of the world if it's on an xbox1?!!! This article is just stupid, half assed troll bait

Software_Lover3852d ago

Because facebook and twitter and whatever else is not Sony vs Microsoft. I'll put it to you like an actual member of N4G told me (I'll find the actual post for you guys/gals)

If the situation was reversed, and the PS4 had every policy Microsoft tried to implement, and the XBone came out smelling like roses and 100.00 cheaper, he would still go with the PS4.

This is how sad this console "war" is.

CerebralAssassin3852d ago

Its a damned if you do damned if you dont situation for Microsoft. All they can do is keep doing what they are doing and keep moving forward. Ill be enjoying my xbox one day one and no one will sell me otherwise.

DragonKnight3852d ago

Facebook and Twitter are voluntary, up until recently Kinect was not and given Microsoft's track record with giving the NSA complete and full access to people's data and even their actual computers via Windows backdoors, there is a real reason to be more suspicious of MS than facebook or twitter.

PFFT3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Remember the Ps4 will have the option utilizes the Ps cam as well. Its ability is about 20% of what the Kinect can do AND im sure the NSA will be keeping tabs on Ps4 player through that as well.

jmc88883852d ago

It doesn't work like that Craig.

Enlighten yourself. Please, for your own sake.

http://www.zerohedge.com/co...

ForgivenZombie3852d ago

@DragonKnight Facebook are big Obama/Government supporters and have already given access to NSA and other agencies, just like Google, MSN, Yahoo and many others. There is only free speech as long as you agree with and obey the powers that be.

Pogmathoin3852d ago

Software lover, please post it. I am sure the powers that be here control how things go here, ensuring anyone that is fair and not all about MS bashing will have as few bubbles as possible....

saint_seya3852d ago

I guess is imposible to use fb with a fake picture, fake name.
In the other hand, i guess u will use fake names on the consoles to use your credit card, i mean u can totally make a fake name and use your credit card right, and u can fake your video, i mean, the person that will show in the camera is just a mask..

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Eonjay3852d ago

I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt. What I want to hear him say is that no personal biometeric data is transferred at all. Do you have any idea how valuable this type of data would be to the right advertisers?

When it comes to hacking... there is 0 percent chance that this wont be hacked. Anything made by man can be hacked so we can pretty much forget about this.

dedicatedtogamers3852d ago

Exactly. The info isn't automatically uploaded to the cloud...but can it still be accessed remotely?

malokevi3852d ago

Back to the NSA... paranoid fallback argument when there's nothing left to complain about. You are all so transparent.

Southpark S17E01

Hicken3852d ago

If only Microsoft was equally as clear, this wouldn't even be a concern.

Ashlen3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

This guy recently got arrested for hacking Miss Teen America's webcam and trying to extort her for money. Apparently she wasn't the first person either.

The fact is if you have a camera and it's some how attached to the open internet you put yourself at risk from both criminals and law enforcement.

http://www.nydailynews.com/...

Lboogieskells3852d ago

That's some real Watch Dogs type ish.

mhunterjr3852d ago

This is ridiculous. The problem is the government's overreaching powers. It's not a Microsoft issue. If Sony was subpoenaed, they'd do the same thing.

The good news is, their no conceivable reason to believe recording gamers would beat fruit in the fight against terrorism...

PS, wasn't it Sony's network that lost compromised the credit card information of millions of users? Information security is everyone issue.

Palaven3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Here is an idea... If your that paranoid about Kinect 'spying' on you... don't use Kinect?

ShwankyShpanky3851d ago

"Don't use Kinect... just pay for it."

Right?

3-4-53852d ago

exactly. It's all in HOW you ask the question.

Blaze9293852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I don't get why people on the internet talk about privacy concerns lol. You know how backwards that is? Every ISP is giving up information to your government right now every day and you don't even know it. If they want it, they will get it.

Look at the iPhone 5s, it's possible to believe that it was even designed in hand 'with' the government. All those fingerprints, easily obtained willingly.

You really concerned about hackers and privacy, you prooobably wouldn't own technology - period. You all need to relax with this Kinect spying, NSABox stuff lol.

It makes even conspiracy theorist, look more mature than gamers. They say it aint, it aint. if it is, we will never know about it...until someone leaks something or speaks up.

yet no one is STILL talking about how Sony plans to make their PSN infrastructure more secure and better - especially after what happened in 2011. But we're just all supposed to pay $49.99 now for no reason and not ask questions?

That Microsoft hate is strong.

ShwankyShpanky3851d ago

My ISP might know what I look at or transfer over the internet... they do not have the means to tell what I am discussing with someone live and in person in my own living room.

I also doubt that the Xbone/XBL plays nice with proxy servers, VPNs, encryption, or any other method of masking internet communications.

False equivalency: look it up.

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Hicken3852d ago

With all the other data that's supposedly being collected and used for... whatever, I'm skeptical.

PFFT3852d ago

Ad collection will be explicitly upon user consent. Can stress enough on how many times ive clarified that.

Hicken3851d ago

So you're a Microsoft representative? That explains a lot of your comments.

And Microsoft never lies, either, so I guess I can believe you with no fear.

Software_Lover3852d ago

Lets see how long before this makes it to one of the "hottest"

CrossingEden3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I really like this comment from the comment section
"If the NSA concerns you that much, smash all the phones in your home, light your PC's on fire and sit the corner with the lights off and cry since you're that scared."
Don't forget the tin foil hat. I have absolutely nothing to hide. And I guess people magically forgot that we no longer have to hook kinect up to the console for it to work. ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) Gamers are disappointing these days.

Shadonic3852d ago

tell me about it man, i was playing GTA online with friends earlier and the topic of whose getting battlefield 4 came up to which 2 of them said, Battlefield 4 is crap. when asked why they said because they wasn't into it and the graphics suck.

I was like " WTF of all the things you go after its the graphics !!?? That's like saying your kindergarten drawings look better than Vincent von Gogh's starry night"

JokesOnYou3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

CrossingEden, This is perfect for scaring the hell out of people suffering from Kinectaphobia.

(ლ ಠ_ಠლ)

-lol, I think I'll use this whenever I refer to Kinect.

Azfargh3852d ago

Aaaaaaaaaaand how we can confirm the veracity of this information?

Because MS SAID SO...
Thats brilliant.

one more electronic device to know everything of you.

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot5h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo18m ago(Edited 17m ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke190m ago

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

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Still have my ps3 copies. Bought it at launch and another one when I found it cheap and in perfect condition about 10 years ago. I wouldn’t buy it on Switch but if they made a PS5 version I would. I still have one of my PS3 Fats hooked up so good to go either way.

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