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PS4 will outsell the Xbox One in UK IDC predicts

International Data Corporation (IDC) has predicted that Sony's Playstation 4 (PS4) will outsell Microsoft's Xbox One as the most popular games console this Christmas.

Also mentions non-console competition from the likes of Valve/Steam, Ouya...

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ATi_Elite3856d ago

I'm curious as to who will be bold enough to predict which console will have the most sales on the planet Mars.

Eonjay3856d ago

Not sure, that would be foolish, but here on Earth we use predictions and speculation to create informed decision on supply chain. Investors use predictions to decide where to place their funds to maximize returns.

NewMonday3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

@ATi_Elite

Actually that is an easy question..

Tied at ZERO

Blackdeath_6633856d ago

they also use pre-order numbers

gaffyh3856d ago

It's not a huge stretch though to believe this. Xbone is more expensive than PS3 at launch, is £80 more than PS4, and doesn't have a year and a half lead to get an installed base.

showtimefolks3856d ago

is there any place where ps4/xbox one is launching where ps4 will not outsell xbox one?

price matters
quality matters(sony has a brand name more in international countries,)
psn-plus is awesome
sony owns so many studios so awesome exclusives guaranteed

but in no way am i saying xbox one will not do well, i believe both will sell out so end of the day great competition, means greater services/content

Mystogan3856d ago

Yeah didn't need to be a scientist to predict this. Next year will be interesting though.

moodymofo3856d ago

its hard to say but im sure there is a demand for the ps4 on mars being that the console is out of this world lol

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kratos_TheGoat3856d ago

is that fact or their opinion who know the future holds anything can happen

Hicken3856d ago

... it's a prediction. It even says so in the title.

And it's a reasonable one, all thing considered.

WorldGamer3856d ago

DAT $100 difference.... Could be the deciding factor for many in the end.

thehitman3856d ago

Ya its going to hurt. MS doing what Sony did last gen but in all the wrong ways... Sony trojan horsed blu-ray and it paid off we are all using that still even today as the new standard, while MS trojan horsed Kinect that nobody cares about and is a proprietary piece of technology that comes off gimmicky. Probably next year they will release a Kinectless SKU for 349.99 when they start selling Kinect at a standalone. If people really want an xb1 I recommend waiting until then if you dont want to pay for a glorified camera.

SniperControl3856d ago

Same here Hitman, I am looking to get the X1 Christmas 2014, but only if the price is less than £300 and has no kinnect in the box.
My main purchase next year will be the Oculus Rift for my PC(& PS4 hopefully)
But I cant wait for my PS4 day 1!

Mystogan3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

How do you know that the Kinect won't pay off like the bluray did? Many people said that we didn't really need bluray and nobody cared about it either.
IMO Kinect 2 is already guaranteed to be awesome for navigation. Now all we need for it are some more games!

Also don't compare this the Sony's mistake. The PS3 was $200 more than the X360. The X1 is only $100 more than the PS4, which is easily justified by Kinect.

mkis0073856d ago

@ Mystogan...and the bluray easily justified the $600 ps3 the next lowest bluray player was $1000 at the time. I want to know if releasing the first kinect could have hurt xbox1 kinect in the long run, people could have lost interest. I really think the motion gaming fad wore off, and MS may have done wrong by releasing the first kinect and numbing people to it.

Chevalier3856d ago

My EB games store where I work (in Canada) has 325 PS4 preorders and 52 Xbox ones and it's not even close. These numbers is literally unheard of. All the 9 stores in my city have PS4 just decimating Xbox One. It's 4-1 or 3-1 currently across Canada.

monkey6023856d ago

It's the same story with xtra vision hmv and gamestop in ireland

Cryptcuzz3855d ago

That is a huge difference in preorder ratios for the two consoles. I wonder what the ratios are for other retail stores and in different regions of the world respectively.

If PS4 preorders are like that consistently throughout the USA as well, where its competitor usually has strong support, than the PS4 is off to a tremendously good start.

The momentum leading up to launch for the PS4 is huge! If its competitor does not off set this someway - some how shortly after both are launched, PS4 could be the runaway success similar to the PS2.

Allsystemgamer3856d ago

I don't know. Single person buying an x1 and I'm in college...I know a lot of people lol

nunley333856d ago

and i suppose some of these people you know owns a 360 too,which is more troubling for ms if large numbers of them don't "jump in" for xbone.

Mystogan3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

They're just waiting Sony fans are just very impatient. They all ran and pre-ordered. That is typically Sony fanboy behavior. They all have this "Lets all go do this mentality" exhibit A, Sony fanboys start petition begging Sony not to have DRM,
Exhibit B Sony fanboys start petition for capcom to make Dead Rising 3 for PS4 too.
Exhibit C Sony fanboys start petition for DMC and Final Fantasy to stay Playstation Exclusive.

You can google all of these I guarantee you its all true.

I have never heard about Xbox fanboys starting a
petition asking for Sony exclusives nor asking to make something stay exclusive like Mass Effect and BioShock. I challenge you to search for one.

But anyway, in the end you'll see sales will be very close. This year I think they already won,Because of the X1's rough start. But next year the real war starts.

mkis0073856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

@Mystogan There is a petition to bring kingdom hearts 1.5 hd to ps3. there was one for mgs4...its not god to talk in absolutes becasue one find is enough to prove it wrong.
http://www.petitiononline.c...
http://www.change.org/en-GB...
I am absolutly not a sony fanboy and yes I have a day 1 ps4 preorder. I do lean towards Sony because like their variety more. I plan on getting a x1 as soon as a game that I want is on it, if that is before or after a price drop idk. I bought a 360 this gen for, like many others, the multiplatform games that ran better on it. Next gen looks like that system will be Ps4.

Jdoki3856d ago

@Mystogan

That's the most myopic and ridiculous comment I've seen in a long time.

So you're telling us that for some reason MS fans are bastions of patience and DON'T want the latest shiniest toy on release, and yet for some reason Sony fans are mindless sheep who will buy anything on Day 1.

So I guess that the 360 selling out for months after launch was just an aberration? Was it all lies that 360's were selling for 3 times their RRP on ebay over the Xmas launch period? And I guess the slow start for the PS3 was all fabrication?

Allsystemgamer3855d ago

They do own 360s lol. I do. I loved it up until MS stopped with the support

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere7h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN5h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos2h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger5h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto7h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos6h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long3h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel6h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator5h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg8h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos8h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola3h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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