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Shuhei Yoshida Gives More Info on The Last Guardian, Blames Jack Tretton for Misleading Everyone

A couple weeks ago Shuhei Yoshida confirmed that The Last Guardian is still in development, and today he gave more info on what’s up with the game, mentioning that Fumito Ueda is still at work on it and that the game is being "re-engineered". He also blames Jack Tretton for misleading people into believing the game was put on hiatus.

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IRetrouk3850d ago

This game reminds me of ico, too much for the console its planned on so its been moved onto more powerfull hardware, still looking forward to this game as ico and sotc are two of the best games i have ever played.

Peppino73850d ago

Hey!!!!! Nobody blames Jack for anything!

abzdine3849d ago

i hope the game will be on time for Japanese release. definitely a system seller, especially how gorgeous it would look on PS4.

Thehyph3849d ago

Jack Tretton on stage:

"Now, for a bit of news on our upcoming Japan studio game, The Last Guardian; the long awaited game from the acclaimed makers of Ico and Shadow Of The Colossus."

Drops the mic and leaves stage.

Mustang300C20123849d ago

Please stop making claims this game is a system seller. The last game wasn't a system seller. It was a popular niche game.

nypifisel3849d ago

@Mustang

It's not about being a "cod" or any game like that, it's about being a marvellous never seen before game. Something that stand out and is a fantastic game nothing like anything else. That's why TLG is so revered and awaited for. Brown Shooter 37 just doesn't cut it for people any more!

mikeslemonade3849d ago

Things get lost in translation and I think that's what happened.

admiralvic3849d ago

@ Mustang300C2012

Sadly, every popular game that a small niche group wants will be called a "system seller" till it proves not to be. Way way way back in the day they also called Resistance Burning Skies and Call of Duty Black Ops Declassified system sellers, so this is nothing new. Also anything can in theory be a system seller, till it proves not to be one.

@ Nypifisel

TLG is regarded so highly because people enjoyed ICO and SOTC, which they assume TLG will match or exceed. However, being a unique take or super original game a "system seller" does not make. In either case, it's all about sales (as you can't be a system seller if you don't literally move systems...), which is something I don't expect TLG will be. It might be good, it might redefine everything, it might be the best thing ever made, but I don't see it passing 2 million in sales or motivating most people to get a system like Kingdom Hearts 3 or Uncharted 4 would.

Just something else to consider... here are the sales according to VG charts. Not the most accurate, but a good starting point for sales without doing a lot of work.

SOTC - 1.14 million (half were the US)
ICO - 470,000 (almost half were the US)
Collection - 1 million (rounded up, half were US)

SilentNegotiator3849d ago

They didn't really NEED Jack for people to think that.

The game has only been in development since 2007.

_QQ_3849d ago

@mustang, its a system seller for me.

UltimateMaster3849d ago

Shuhei didn't really blame Jack Tretton in the article.
He just said that he was misinterpreted.

If he had blamed him, that would have been poor leadership.

Hitman07693849d ago

@nypifisel false. vocal minority does not equal sales majority.

Hitman07693849d ago

@SilentNegotiator yup, my thoughts exactly.

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WitWolfy3850d ago

Well the creator did state this game is a mix between both ICO and SOTC.

ATi_Elite3849d ago

I'm happy to see The Last Guardian move to the PS4. TLG is really gonna push the PS4 and we can expect the Graphics to look better than the already fantastic screenshots of the PS3 version.

Magicite3849d ago

This game will be absolute killer-app and a must-have, the question remains - which platforms will it be on - PS3 or PS4?

oof463849d ago

Delayed or not, on ps3 or ps4, I still believe this point stands: http://www.eldesafiodigital...

Cryptcuzz3849d ago

What if the game is about the boy being locked up for whatever reason, grows a bond with the "gryphon" as their survival depends on one another. Then they grow up together and become much stronger (especially the gryphon) and ultimately saving the world with both surviving!

I'd still play that as the gameplay would revolve around the growing bond between the two.

Ico - Emotional bond with the girl for being both locked up, needing each other to survive, advance and escape from the castle.

SOTC - Emotional connection to the majestic colossus despite having to kill them to save the girl.

Last Guardian: Place your bets here guys.

esemce3849d ago

Yeah I'm sure being on the PS4 will be better in the long run, it's been a long wait but I trust team ICO to deliver especially now they have more power to work with.

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Bundi3850d ago

Wait until the VGA's right guys?

Abriael3850d ago

For this one I can wait even longer as long as it's good and it's not just a port to the PS4, but really fully "re-engineered" as yoshida says, to be a full fledged PS4 title.

Bundi3850d ago (Edited 3850d ago )

Who knows what re-engineer means in this case? Could very well be a vita game now for all we know. Alas, the waiting game continues.

Honestly m just tired of Pedro/pogov77 sending me PS3 exclusive lists for the coming year and seeing TLG in it every year since he started doing that.
At least he has stopped using VS XIII

Kryptix3849d ago (Edited 3849d ago )

@Bundi

LOL
A PS3 game turned into a Vita game exclusively...ok, now I know you're just spewing idiotic comments. First of all, why would they show it to the PS3 audience then downscale it for a much smaller audience. (the Vita didn't exist back then in 2009) Think logically next time...

It's originally a PS3 title so re-engineering it means that it can only get better than the original design. Either the engine got changed and it's going to look much better than what we already saw on the trailer, they pushed it for the PS4, or they're making a PS4 version that goes along with the PS3 version. I doubt they'll make a Vita version now that you'll be able to remote play PS4 games into the Vita.

It's been over 6 years since the start of development and according to Shuhei, the game was never on "hiatus" as in the team has been constantly working on the game. I'm more led to believe that a PS4 version is in the works with the long wait time.

Well, the fact that Shuhei brought up The Last Guardian and confirming it's still in development is a good sign that we'll be seeing more of it really soon.

Mustang300C20123849d ago

No one thought it would be 8 years later and people are still waiting on the game. Why would it be shocking now if it was a Vita title.

LoveOfTheGame3849d ago

@Kryptix
The PS4 also didn't exist in 2009, mind = blown.

Also, I don't think you know what re-engineering means. If it was moved to any different system it would have to be re-engineered, including the Vita.

I want a full scale TLG, but having it portable also makes me kind of giddy.

Kryptix3849d ago (Edited 3849d ago )

@LoveofTheGame

http://www.ign.com/articles...

"Lead system architect on the PlayStation 4, Mark Cerny, said "the development of a next-gen platform started about five years ago""

Sorry for proving you wrong.

2013 - 5 = 2008

...just in case you don't know basic math and come back with the same comment.

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JimmyLmao3850d ago

I have a feeling that Sony is going to have a massive conference sometime at the end of this year/beginning of next year... and if they do, the bar will be set so high, because they have so much secrets that they are keeping, it's not fair. 9 unannounced first-party PS4 games for 2014 =( and then all the third-party exclusive stuff

JoGam3850d ago

Oh its very fair. ;-)

Bundi3849d ago

I don't buy consoles for unannounced games, I buy them for games I know are coming and have real release dates. Otherwise you buy a console to play FFVS13. . .

If it wasn't for Forza 5, I wouldn't even be concerned about going Xbox One. So far on the PS side, no games warrant an upgrade from my PS3 to PS4 just yet in my opinion.

Announced games with solid release dates > unannounced games, any time.

Hicken3849d ago

Man, I'm so glad that you're already out of bubbles by the time I'm getting around to commenting. I don't think I could take more of your ignorant "stealth" trolling.

Re-engineering the game could really only refer to the game being redone for PS4. Yeah, sure, they COULD be making it for the Vita, but even your feeble mind must understand how unlikely that is.

"I don't buy consoles for unannounced games."

Good for you, but we don't give a damn why YOU buy. Many- if not most- of us buy consoles for games we know are coming out, whether they have a release date or not. We buy games because we know the developers that will be making the games.

That must be a hard concept, with you being such a Microsoft fanboy. But us people with good sense know the PS4's got some stellar developers working on it, so whether their game has been announced or not, we look forward to it.

If only there was a way to prevent people like you from spreading your BS all over the site...

Mikefizzled3850d ago

We have already seen the mess contradictory claims leaves you in, Microsoft, so please Sony keep things straight.

Bundi3850d ago

I was wondering how this could be spun into a negative...for Microsoft, you managed in one sentence. *applause*

Mikefizzled3849d ago

But I'm a diehard MS fan? It was just embarrassing to watch the MS PR team screw themselves over time after time.

Bundi3849d ago

I'm sorry did I accuse you of not being a Microsoft fan? No I was simply wondering how TLG being in production still could be turned into a bad thing for Microsoft and you came to my aid.

Kryptix3849d ago

@Bundi

"No I was simply wondering how TLG being in production still could be turned into a bad thing for Microsoft and you came to my aid."

How can mentioning the past be a bad thing against Microsoft if it has already been done. lol

All he was doing is giving an example of past contradictions with Microsoft (Ryse originally confirmed as 1080p native then later on it's actually 900p native for example) and hopes that Sony doesn't do the same thing with The Last Guardian. He might be a diehard MS fan but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't also respect Sony in some way. He could prefer gaming on Xbox and own a PS3 on the side interested and waiting for this game to release. If Sony is contradicting themselves here, that means we might never see the game and a lot of us don't want that. Like me, I'm more of a Sony fan but definitely can't wait to see how the next Gears of War would look on the Xbox One. It's not the games that I don't like, it's how Microsoft handles their console and consumers.

Mikefizzled3849d ago

Good lord. Kryptix you're a gent, not only did you accurately depict my current situation and respect for Sony but you also suggested and accepted its 'OK' to like both consoles.

Kryptix3849d ago

@Mikefizzeled

Hey, man, no problem. I prefer Sony's way of doing things at the moment but before people say I'm a hardcore Sony fan, I also do own an Xbox 360 and had an original Xbox back in the day. I didn't get a PS3 till late 2009 because of many reasons with Sony's reveal and presentation.

But the tables are new and different now and Microsoft needs to fix up their act completely. That's why I'm getting a PS4 first because of better reliability, not just the exclusives, and still thinking if my next console will be the Xbox One or Valve's new console.

At the end though, I'll most likely own all the consoles next generation even if it takes 5-7 years to get the last one. The way I see it, it's not the game developers at fault, it's more of the console makers for not being professional and more prepared.

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Bolts3850d ago

This game managed to miss an entire generation, so it doesn't look good. Just cancel it and move on.

JoGam3849d ago

Just cancel the game because "You" said so and ignor all the people who are waiting to play it? Ummmm you might be on to something. S/

Sharius3849d ago

"this generation" isn\t finish yet, atleast in PS3 case

2cents3849d ago

Did you play ico and shadow of the colossus? If you did play them through to the end you'll know how unique they are in an ocean of mediocrity.

The last guardian deservese nothing less than the light of day, the people behind team ICO are some of the most talented individuals that gaming has ever seen.

Cryptcuzz3849d ago

With the head of Sony Santa Monica now the head of Japan Studios, I am convince his technical know-how will aid in the Last Guardian's development. I believe it was stated that originally TLG had technical problems in envisioning how they wanted to create the game.

andibandit3849d ago

Thats what we said about duke nukem, what a waste of time that was

DonMingos3849d ago (Edited 3849d ago )

Yeah. And we said the same about Alan Wake, Red Dead Redemption and GT5. Were they a waste off time?

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Building Final Fantasy XVI with Producer Naoki Yoshida | AIAS Game Maker's Notebook Podcast

Shuhei Yoshida chats with FINAL FANTASY XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida.

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15 More Underrated PS4 Games You Probably Didn’t Play

GB: "With this feature, we run down 15 of the most underrated games on the PS4 that never received the love and appreciation they truly deserve."

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Christopher128d ago

I've played 15, and I wouldn't consider any of those underrated TBH. Some of them are pretty high rated.

banger88128d ago

That's amazing, Gamingbolt actually put all 15 games on the same page.

shinoff2183126d ago

I. Not seeing anything on that list underrated. I never played concrete genie, the ASTRO vr,and one other but I forgot the name already. Nothing on there was underrated at all imo.

persona4chie126d ago

There’s only 4 of those games I never played, and no most of those aren’t underrated.

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PS5 Exec Doesn't Want To See Gaming's Future Dominated By Live-Service Games: "Boring"

PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.

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Obscure_Observer354d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole354d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90354d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit354d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils353d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie353d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj353d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde353d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor353d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138353d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_353d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881351d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit354d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64354d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992354d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot354d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992353d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot354d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64354d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot354d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades353d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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