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Beyond is about opening doors & showing people games aren’t just about shooting, says Cage

Beyond: Two Souls director and writer David Cage has explained his aspirations for the PS3 title, and hopes that it will encourage people to see the medium a little bit differently.

GirlOnFire3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

I love different games that's why this is at the top of my buy list. Well also I loved Heavy Rain so sad and beautiful game. ^~^ or maybe this face T-T

N4Flamers3857d ago

Its sad that the game had terrible writing and terrible acting. I liked it despite its many faults.

_LarZen_3857d ago

And yet it's censored in Europe...

Imonaboat13857d ago

Tell that to Americans who keep on supporting crappy franchises like Call of Duty

MadLad3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Because it's only America.
Can I now blame Europe for destroying the film industry by eating up things like Battleship and Resident Evil?

vikingland13857d ago

Not all Americans play FPS I play many types of games. I am currently playing The Puppeteer. And I recently beat Brothers A Tale Of Two Sons. You shouldn't generalize like that. I do know that many Americans do play COD, Just not all of them do.

rextraordinaire3857d ago

I don,t like this guy... He seems to believe there are only two crowds of gamers : COD obsessed teenagers and artsy-pants hipsters.

I can name so many games that are not about shooting and killing stuff that this guy seems to have no knowledge of...

Like maybe Katamari Damacy, LittleBigPlanet, Harvest Moon, Animal Crossing, Professor Layton, Journey, Fl0w...

As for emotional content, what about Shadow of the Colossus, Virtues Last Reward, Ni No Kuni...

I mean yeah that game looks like it's well made, but this guy seriously needs to get over himself...

WeAreLegion3857d ago

You should watch/read more interviews with him. He talks about the variety of games a lot. Ueda (Shadow of the Colossus/Ico) is one of his favorite developers and influences. He has talked at length about Shenmue, LittleBigPlanet, Journey, and Earthbound.

vikingland13857d ago

That's a good list of games. Now you need to add The Puppeteer , Brothers A Tale Of Two Sons , And Rain to your list. There are many types of games besides shooters.

MadLad3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

I love how he thinks he is the only person doing this at the moment.
Show us the light, David. Please.

#taleoftwobrothers #amnesia #shadowrunreturns #thewalkingdead

playboi283857d ago

While it is great that you can name a few games that break the mold, that does not change the fact that the sales numbers show that gamers as a whole are not very aware of games without shooting someone, especially here in the US. Other than The Walking Dead (which actually included shooting, BTW), many gamers are not informed about these games. Blame it on short attention spans, violent tendencies, or just terrible marketing. They are all factors in the reality that your typical gamer plays CoD, GTA, or sports titles.

MadLad3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Honestly, I truly feel he is just a very pretentious person who feels he is spear-heading the idea of art and narrative in an industry already dripping with it, if you actually look for it.
It's the same way that people claim there are too many modern-military shooters when, really, there's the couple of industry staples, and then the random release every once in a while.
There is a market out there for every gamer. Complaining that one might be more popular than the other is pointless. It's not hard to find a quality non-shooter release at any time. Just go on Steam and throw a rock.
Besides, and let's be honest here. If he was worried about the industry moving further from story in games, wanting a wider audience for what he wants to create, he should be just as vocally against tying his experiences to one platform as he is about calling out the industry on being too closed off from new experiences.
Just my two cents.

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Detroit: Become Human & Beyond: Two Souls are available on Steam without Denuvo

DSOGaming writes: "Quantic Dream has just released Detroit: Become Human, Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls on the PC, and has removed Denuvo from them."

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Quantic Dream Announces Detroit: Become Human, Beyond: Two Souls, & Heavy Rain for Steam

Quantic Dream revealed the upcoming Steam Release of its games Detroit: Become Human, Beyond: Two Souls, and Heavy Rain coming "soon."

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Obscure_Observer1428d ago

Sony is expanding their PC approach beyond (no pun intended) Epic Store realm.

Steam official pages:

Heavy Rain
https://store.steampowered....

Beyond: Two Souls
https://store.steampowered....

Detroit: Become Human
https://store.steampowered....

Abriael1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Quantic Dream is self-publishing and doing this entirely independently from Sony. Sony is not involved at all.

Sciurus_vulgaris1428d ago

Detroit: Become Human and Beyond: Two Souls are owned by Sony. Therefore,Quantic Dream needs Sony's permission to release the titles on steam and PC.

https://trademarks.justia.c...
https://trademarks.justia.c...

Abriael1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

@Sciurus_vulgaris: neither is owned by Sony. Registering a trademark (trademarks are related only to titles and have nothing to do with game or IP ownership) is completely unrelated from owning the rights of a game.

Sony had the publishing license on the games as a second party for a period. That license has expired, so now Quantic Dream is free to do whatever they want with them, and they are.

Incidentally, they have announced a few months ago that now they're taking the independent route, so expect their games on all platforms from now on.

hulk_bash19871428d ago

A trademark is a way a company or individual exercises legal ownership of an intellectual property. And as of right now Sony does still own the trademarks for those two QD developed games.

https://breakinggames.com/p...

Abriael1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

@hulk_bash1987 "Breaking Games" isn't trademark law. That's a massive oversimplification of trademark law. Trademarks do not in any shape or form give you ownership on an IP. It gives you ownership of a name. period.

Since trademarks are completely separate by publishing contracts, Sony's publishing contract on a game can have expired (and it has, the publisher of the games on PC is Quantic Dream itself) but the trademark still not have expired.

Quantic Dream has full ownership of the IPs. In fact, you won't see Sony named absolutely anywhere in any listing for PC. If Sony was involved, you'd see them listed right there.

Imalwaysright1428d ago

hulk_bash1987

The intellectual property being the title of the game. Trademarks only protect names or logos. The game itself and everything in it: code, story, characters, art, etc are protected by copyrights.

hulk_bash19871428d ago

Sony does own the trademarks and therefore have ownership over some portion of the ip. So they wouldve had to agree or had some type of legal or mutual agreement in place for QD to release them on platforms outside of Playstation.

Abriael1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

@hulk_bash1987: Sony's influence on the title is determined exclusively by their publishing contract. That's all the legal agreement you need.

If the trademark had any value over this, you'd see trademark notices and Sony plastered all over the listings.

Bottomline, this has literally nothing to do with Sony's approach related to PC gaming as Obscure_Observer tried to imply.

hulk_bash19871428d ago

Regardless of the ownership debate. Sony has been more liberal with their exclusives recently. QDs games, Death Stranding and most importantly HZD.

Abriael1428d ago

Horizon Zero Dawn is likely an experiment done because Kojima Productions optimized the engine at basically no additional cost for Sony.

The release on PC of Death Stranding was likely a condition from Kojima himself since the beginning. This has nothing to do with Sony.

hulk_bash19871428d ago

Horizon is definetly and experiement. Its Sony testing the water, to see how big of an audience their games might have on PC. It was pretty much out right stated that they want to get their games out to as many people as possible. Which will potentially open people up to buying PS hardware.

ZwVw1428d ago

Bro, you're getting licencing and copyright confused. Beyond and Detroit are both Sony properties, who Sony is granting licensing permission for QT to publish on PC. This is nothing new. Companies like MS, Square and Sega do this all the time.

Besides, is you visit Detroit's Steam page, you can clearly see the Sony copyright at the bottom of the page. https://store.steampowered....

Obscure_Observer1428d ago

"Quantic Dream is self-publishing and doing this entirely independently from Sony. Sony is not involved at all."

The only reason those games are available on PC, is because Sony gave Quantic Dream a permission. If you think Sony paid those third party studios millions to develop a game so they can claim "independence" and do whatever they want with said games, you´re seriously mistaken.

Persian_Immortal1428d ago

According to the United States Copyright Office https://cocatalog.loc.gov/c...

Sony owns the Copyrights for Detroit Become Human and Beyond Two Souls and Death Stranding.

RosweeSon1428d ago

Even if they were 2 of those games were last gen who cares it’s a bit different if they are your only good games to talk about and releasing simultaneously these games are 5-10 years old came out of ps3 originally except Detroit. Like horizon it was a great game do I care it’s gone to PC also not at all I’d already and finished it over a year previously 🤷🏻‍♂️🤓 😜✌🏻

neutralgamer19921428d ago

Abriael

sony is notorious for wanting IP's. Insomniac pitched sunset overdrive to sony but went with ms because they were going to let insomniac keep the IP. I think sony is allowing this because it's towards the end of gen and these games will generate extra resources. Sony allowed it on epic first because they have a great relationship lately eith epic and now even if QD are self publishing they would have spoken to sony about it

you are making it sound like just because they are self publishing they don't have to ask sony. The company that owns the IP's has a lot of say

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

BTW i am not saying other games from sony will come to PC just that they do own the IP's

TricksterArrow1428d ago

Hmm... You can literally see this in their steam page:

DETROIT: BECOME HUMAN: ©2018 Sony Interactive Entertainment Europe ltd. Developed by Quantic Dream. “Detroit: Become Human” is a trademark of Sony Interactive Entertainment Europe. All rights reserved.

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blackblades1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

The dev always said he wanted them on pc. Lol putting Sony in it to make it look like Sony putting more of there games on pc.

ajax171428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

I'll agree once I see God of War and Spider-man on steam

Bronxs151428d ago

What about horizons zero dawn??

DerfDerf1428d ago

@Bronxs15 that was before the goal posts were moved

neutralgamer19921428d ago

shloobian

there is no goal post if yo are comparing MS releasing all their exclusives on pc day one to sony releasing HZD(3 years after release on pc) than maybe you should look up those said goal posts. Most likely case with HZD is the fact kojima optimized the game engine for PC so sony/GG didn't have any extra cost to make it work on pc

hulk_bash19871428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Interested to see what other Sony IPs will see a release on PC

Father__Merrin1428d ago

QD are now independant in fact they always was but used sonys platforms to sell thier games.its thier ip they can do what ever they want with them

gravedigger1428d ago

Quantic Dream are no longer works for Sony. Contract ended

S2Killinit1428d ago

If this makes Obscure happy, then does that mean he is secretly sad that ALL of xbox’s games are available on PC? Hmm

Obscure_Observer1428d ago

@S2Killinit

"If this makes Obscure happy, then does that mean he is secretly sad that ALL of xbox’s games are available on PC? Hmm"

Sad? Lol.

Xbox games on PC means more money to fund new first party studios, games and new IP´s for us, Xbox console gamers.

Sony is not stupid, they´re paying attention to every move competition makes. They will allow day one exclusives on PC? Unlikely. However, you´ll see more and more Playstation games making their way to PC. Then, will see more and more PS fanboys telling how Sony is making money out of the PC gamers to fund new first party studios, games and new IP´s for us, Playstation console gamers.

You heard from me first. Mark my words. ;)

S2Killinit1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Not much of a prediction though is it? The issue is that xbox is already moving toward obsoletion of consoles because MS has realized that they cant dominate the console market, so they want to scorch earth the console habitat by making it irrelevant (or at least a less important factor). As a console gamer I will support consoles and console makers that resist these types of maneuvers. I say screw Microsoft.

itsmebryan1427d ago

Can someone explain why MS console exclusives on PC are bad, but, when Sony copies the same thing it's somehow "different" or "Okay"?

I need to understand fanboy logic.

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WeAreLegion1428d ago

Sony would be crazy not to attempt to acquire them at some point.

Veneno1428d ago

Nah. QD is too all over the place. Not consistent in terms of quality.

Tacoboto1428d ago

Detroit was mechanically great, regardless of opinion on story. With Sony support officially behind them, they'd have those resources to improve their management

Flewid6381428d ago

I have yet to play a QD game I didn't like

AspiringProGenji1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Didn’t they get owned already by some publisher?

Obscure_Observer1428d ago

No. And they will remain independent for the foreseeable future.

Abriael1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Sony may want whatever they want. Quantic Dream wants to be independent and they're swimming in money (they recently expanded considerably) so they have no reason to sell.

WeAreLegion1428d ago

Insomniac wanted to be independent for decades. But things change. Nice to see you again, Abriael.

TeamIcoFan1428d ago

And I will be rebuying all three on steam!

AmazingGeneration1428d ago

When the crazy Xbox fans completely falsify facts to meet their agenda it really just makes you question how desperate these people are and how brainwashed they’ve become.

I blame Sony, you can only take a beating for so long and Sony been laying the fist into them for three generations now.

Tacoboto1428d ago

What the... The only mention of anything Xbox here is coming from you...

TeamIcoFan1428d ago

Alright sonny, put down the crack pipe and try to come back to reality, m'kay?

Neonridr1428d ago

sorry who's the one who's brainwashed here. Stop drinking the koolaid, what in dear god are you going on about here. Nothing you said relates to this article in any way. The fact that you got 4 agrees makes me wonder about those people too.

InUrFoxHole1428d ago

Lol. This news truly broke this poor soul!

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The Top Five: Women in Games

BY GRANT TAYLOR: If there’s one thing I appreciate in gaming, it’s a strong female character. In recent years, we’ve seen countless women in games, ranging from fierce warriors to masters of the supernatural. These days, if a game doesn’t have a female lead, you at least have the choice to select one.

I’ve played so many games with brilliant female protagonists in the last decade. It was honestly difficult getting this list down to just five!

So, which of these characters rank the highest?

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