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Prepare your bandwidth: Killzone Shadow Fall size to be 50 GB

Prepare your connection, as next generation might very well test your bandwidth - Killzone Shadow Fall has been confirmed to be around 50 GB.

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Imp0ssibl33851d ago

I think I'll miss the annoying firmware updates, anyone with an average internet connection will surely have to look at a progress bar for the better part of a day now.

Ame_No_Shiryuu3851d ago

no surprise.., the assets, the 3D model, the environment texture.., truly NEXT GEN..!!, we're lucky it's only 50 GB though...

cleft53851d ago

Good thing you can start playing a game before it finishes downloading. This should be an interesting test of that architecture.

Raf1k13851d ago

This isn't surprising at all. I did mention some months back that this would become the norm so having consoles with digital only games would be bad for a lot of people.

50GB is more than the data allowance some people have for a month so it's a good thing we still have hard copies.

neoandrew3851d ago

Maybe truly next gen, but no way this size is due to textures, assets or 3d models, crysis 3 has the best assets, 3d models and very large textures on pc, only high end pc's can run it in its full glory, so ps4 can at best have the same quality and I'm sure it has, but c3 has only around 15 gb and it is the best looking pc game, a game that none of the new console can't run in this level of detail, you just can't, due to hardware limitation.

My guess is that killzone has some very high quality 1080p clips in it.

And please ps4 fanboys, i'm not telling you c3 i better that killzone, just simple and fair compare of hardware and actual possibilities.

shivvy243851d ago

damn ! looks like i cant go digital just yet!

abzdine3851d ago

killzone is a beast!
True next gen greatness baby

Hellsvacancy3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

neoandrew? Crysis 3 may look UBER AWESOME on PCs whatever, it doesn't excuse the fact that the gameplay is BORING, I got halfway through the game and gave up, there was nothing about it that made me want to continue to play it, looking prettier wouldn't change a thing

Sevir3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

I can only imagine how big a game like the Witcher 3 and Infamous will be. Thank goodness for PlayGo, Playing as you download will be a necessity come PlayStation 4 generation, lol, I'm kind of afraid to do digital with these big games, but the best part is the PS companion app will allow my PS4 to download games while I'm at work or school during the day so I won't have to watch a status bar.

In anycase, the only games at launch I'm going digital with is Driveclub, Knack, Resogun. Killzone and Watch_Dogs are my Disc based games. :)

BallsEye3851d ago Show
P0werVR3851d ago

Fact?

At least 80% or more of that are textures.

If anything, that is currently the general issue in game development. True next gen to developers will be mostly about reducing that size significantly in how you simply use textures.

So as time goes on, you'll see that size come down significantly due to how game development is progressing into highly optimized hardware and software.

So no, this does not state next gen.

neoandrew3851d ago

@Hellsvacancy

As i was saying, i'm not comparing games, HAVE YOU NOT LISTEN, just the tech specs and looking ONLY at c3 graphics it has no competition also on pc.

I don't care which game is better, c3 for me was also disappointing. Haven't played killzone: SF yet, so can't really say anything about it.

If the best looking game has 15gb then it is really doubtful that 50gb killzone has something to do with better textures or 3d models, as it can't look better than c3 on high end pc hardware.

As i was saying i bet on 1080p clips and/or high quality sound.

imt5583851d ago

I want more bigger games. 50 GB is not enough.

UltimateMaster3851d ago

50Gb. Wow.
And Microsoft wanted to make install based games with their DRM with an 500Gb HDD that can't be upgraded.
Imagine how many of their games would be between 20Gb to 50Gb?
You would only have played 10 games, 25 max.
Glad that didn't happen.
WTF were they thinking?

mewhy323851d ago

Wow. That's a lot of data. Good thing that the PS4 has GDDR5 and a superior GPU to move that data around at the maximum speed and the power to use it. I'm freakin' excited.

Ju3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Well, expected. TLoU is 27GB - and I have some more clocking in at ~15-20GB. And that's why the first thing I'm gonna do is to rip out that HDD and put a 2TB drive in. It's all digital for me. 500GB fills up quickly.

BTW: Just got me TLoU...it downloads during the game - but requires ~70% of the game before you can play (took me 4 hours @ ~1.2MB/s ave).

Cable2kx3851d ago

I really want to download this from the store so I can remote play this at anytime with my vita.

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Anarki3851d ago

And this is why I was hoping consoles wouldn't go digital only, 50gb would take ages for me to download not only that it would kill me on launch day knowing that I have a PS4 and have to wait another day to play the games whilst they download.

ChickeyCantor3851d ago

" no surprise.., the assets, the 3D model, the environment texture.., truly NEXT GEN..!!, we're lucky it's only 50 GB though..."

Man the way people talk about this stuff really reflects how casual they really are.

I'm pretty sure uncompressed audio files also have something to do with it.

Ezz20133851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@BallsEye

you keep post the same pic that still look Pretty Incredible and the best looking next gen title
but if that not a true next gen game
i wonder what you think of Ryse then since GOW/GOWA look on par with it if not better

Christopher3851d ago

Probably mostly videos and uncompressed 7.1 audio files.

Mikeyy3851d ago

Well yeah the videos and audio are uncompressed. Thats why the PS3 had better FMV's and More surround sound options last gen also. (FF13 was a perfect example, the 360 version was a disater due to compression)

Why Do they need to compress and lower the quality of assests when you have 50Gigs of space on the disc?

If 50gigs is unaccaptable for the digital download world then maybe the critics where RIGHT and we are not ready for an all digital console?

and the PS4 users that will be doing all digital will be slapping in at least a 1TB HDD anyway, at least playstation gives you options.

hollabox3851d ago

First gen already maxing out Blu Ray, well I guess that was predictable. I got into about 3 months ago with some idiots claiming BR 50GBs was enough for next gen platforms considering a handful of PS3 games coming in at over 40GBs.

Magicite3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

How much max capacity BLU-RAY disc supports?
And I wonder if there will be games with 2 discs?
Maybe PS5 wont have optical media anymore?
Does Xbone still requires mandatory installs, it wouldnt take long to fill 500GB with so large games?

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gaffyh3851d ago

Yeah Hellsvacancy, "HAVE YOU NOT LISTEN"?

LMAO.

I doubt it's a lot of video, maybe audio and textures, but most of these games rarely have loads of video, they might have a few but not loads.

jcnba283851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

"truly NEXT GEN"

Damage control much?

50gb? So that means you can only download around 10 big games on PS4 until you run out of hard drive space! And people here were complaining about Wii U's hard drive space lol PS4's hard drive space is just as bad.

But guess what you can't stick an external hard drive in to the PS4.

triforce793851d ago

Well theres titles on wiiu that are over 20GB like legocity ect so its no surprise...

oof463851d ago

Welcome to the future!

deecee333851d ago

Crazy...hopefully 5 years into this gen when someone makes a game that pushes 100GB we'll have direct fiber in our homes to download it in some reasonable amount of time.

mkis0073851d ago

@jcnba28 nope no external drives but most of us are changing out the internal drive for 1-4TB drives. So no problem.

minimur123851d ago

"And this is why I was hoping consoles wouldn't go digital only, 50gb would take ages for me to download not only that it would kill me on launch day knowing that I have a PS4 and have to wait another day to play the games whilst they download."

Did you forget we can play while it's downloading???

Gaming1013851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

I guess some people just didn't read the article, you can play as you download, no need to wait for the whole thing. It's a new feature for PS4.

But yeah, 50 GB is about right for a true next gen game. Be sure you upgrade your hard drive right off the bat so you're not screwed down the road!

bligmerk3851d ago

This is very interesting news. We know the PS4 Blu-ray drive is 6X compared to the 2X in the PS3. What we don't know is the capacity. There have been rumors the PS4 Blu-ray drive is a 100GB triple or quad layer. If KZ:SF is 50GB already, it is really doubtful Sony was planning the rest of the generation as multi-disc installs, which makes it even more likely the PS4 Blu-ray drive is 100GB.

cj1pate1013851d ago

How is sp running at 30 fps last gen 1080 p resoultion next gen dude? Man you damn fan boys really piss me off. I was running 1080p 60 fps since 2005 too now. Why are you kids so happy about a 50 gig dl. Mgs4 was 50 gigs and that game was filled with cutscenes and horrid shooting mechanics. Killzone 2 was major hype just as every kz is. What make killzone shadow fall any diffrent from this hype is my question to you sony fuck bagels!

Rimeskeem3851d ago

just buy the game retail and it will be way less

nunley333851d ago

well i did see you'll be able to download the single and multiplayer seperately so that'll make it easier on people instead of downloading one 50gb file. sony looking out for you and with gaikai tech,download as you play.

FamilyGuy3850d ago (Edited 3850d ago )

Uncompressed, high quality audio can be huge but maybe it's also all the large environments in single player and large maps in multiplayer with all their highly detailed assets? When you download new map packs they're always a gig or two so maybe it's just having lots of really big maps? A man can dream right?

Cut-scenes are in-engine as far as I know so 1080p video isn't the real go-to answer. They could have used in-engine scene and then made them into 1080p video to keep quality high while using less of the PS4s power during those scenes? Not really sure what they're doing that's taking up so much space.
PS3 games had some duplicate files to reduce load times that made them bigger but the PS4 has a faster reading drive so it shouldn't need that technique and the digital versions of games wouldn't have duplicate files anyway.

Why not just ask Sony or GG directly what makes their games take up so much space?
Personally, I appreciate high quality audio that's likely to be adding to PS3 and PS4 game size.

pixelsword3850d ago

?

Why would I have to download it?

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HammadTheBeast3851d ago

Surprisingly, it was taking a week for GTA V to download for me (well more like 2 days, felt like a week) then out of nowhere it downloaded 12 gb over 2 hours.

A lot of the download rate has to do with PSN users on.

vigilante_man3851d ago

Glad I've got 120Mbps and NO data cap. A couple of hours and I'm done..

Now just got to find me a 2TB drive by next summer when I start to max out the 500GB. But I'll probably stick with Blu Ray versions first to see just how good the increased read speeds are.

We are all going to have to be more choosy as to what games we keep installed at any one time. Overnight also seems to be a good time to download files this big.

LackTrue4K3851d ago

Is it not one of the PlayStations features?!?
"Downloading in background when you play....???"

We'll we all know that's Imposable with the multiplayer.

Idba3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

You can play while downloading, you can download while the ps4 is in sleep mode (save electricity) and you can start the download from your phone if youre for example at work and dont want to wait all day and the download speed is going to be much faster

Ron_Danger3851d ago

You can download either the single player or multiplayer first and then download the rest while you are playing... This was shown in a video back in March.

0ut1awed3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@ onyoursistersback

You are using logic from your 8 year old xbox 360, not actual facts about the PS4. "Impossible" you say? lol

Idk about the PS3 but I can download stuff off the PSN store on my Vita while I'm playing online. I wasn't sure about this but I had Rayman Origins downloading the other day and went to play Killzone Mercenary online. The download finished about 10-15 minutes into the game even though it was no where near being done when I started.

That's on my Vita... I think it's safe to say the PS4 will do it.

Thehyph3851d ago

@0ut1awed you can do anything on Vita while it's running a download.

Maybe not anything, I don't know if it will download and remote play at the same time as I haven't tried it. Also, while the you can download a patch for a game while playing that game, you probably can't play multiplayer in this scenario. Obviously, this is due to game versions and not Vita functionality.

Kleptic3851d ago

^you can do 'anything' with a PS3 while downloading, also...that is nothing new in terms of what they call 'background downloading'...

but the issue is the queuing...If you start a download of a demo or something...then fire up netflix, or start playing some other game online, the background download is paused, or prioritized down to receive very little of your total download speed...Sometimes its stopped all together, others it'll continue downloading, albeit not as fast as it would when not using the internet connection for something else...

if you play a DVD or BD...background downloading is 100% paused...both those playback features completely lock you out of PSN, for copyright reasons i guess...

the PS4 has this play while you download option...but so far, it seems better on paper to me...it just seems to divide a given game into two portions...so you still have to download an entire section before you start playing...

either way...i'm just saying it still seems like a physical disc is the best option for playing big retail games...digital for indies and stuff like that...thats my opinion, anyway...

Alexious3850d ago

Impossible? And why? It's not impossible at all.

In fact, most games that allow this are multiplayer/MMORPGs on PC.

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firelogic3851d ago

Firmware updates happen in the background when the PS4 isn't being used. You'll never see or wait for them.

Kleptic3851d ago

unless you're in the middle of a PSN connection when the firmware is released...in which case the updated firmware will be required to continue using the PSN...

what you're talking about is not a new feature of the PS4...its been this way since PS+ was released...you have the option to check for updates for games and firmware at specific times that you know you won't be using the system, and if one is available its downloaded and installed before you turn the system back on the next day...but if you happen to be playing a game online when the firmware comes in...have fun...you'll have to wait for it...The PS4 isn't going to magically do this stuff in the middle of an online match in killzone or something...

ask me how many times this happened during scheduled clan matches in bf3....

Mikeyy3851d ago

What is the issue? I was over my brother in laws and his xbox prompts him to install Firmware updates also, and it takes the same amount of time?

Why is there a compalaint here?

Both consoles have firmware updates, firmware updates are a GOOD thing.

Patches too, they are a good thing, patches are intended to fix things, and add new features.

Ask any PC gamer, Player count spikes on patch day as people check out the new goodies.

If they abolished patches every single MP game out there would be aweful within a month, as people find out whats OP or whatch glitches to do, it will become unplayble.

firelogic3851d ago

@Kleptic

No, firmware updates occur when the PS4 isn't being used. If you're online playing or downloading something from the store, it's not just going to push the fw to you. It runs fw updates when the PS4 is in sleep/low power mode.

avengers19783851d ago

This is why I wanted a TBHDD... I bet the eventually have a SKU with a bigger hard drive.

Can't wait for KZSF... All weekend multiplayer marathon on the 15th, let's say around 12:30am est.
PSN ID: avengers1978

Looking forward to some kick ass MP matches

hardcorehippiez3851d ago

grr i have to wait till the 29th but ill be having a weekend marathon then :D hippiez2007

Cuzzo633851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Man the pc crowd are really drinking the hate juice for this new gen. Haters turn up!
Everytime I see those guys commenting on how powerful the pc is it gives me the giggles. I didnt even know thos was a pc article... seems like all the ps4 guys are trolling.... hold up. Am I jus confused lmao

xtremeimport3851d ago

This is why i buy hard copies and not digital.

clrlite3851d ago

I'll probably be buying the hard copy anyway because I think this game belongs in my collection.

MAULxx3851d ago

100% agree.
If the game ends up sucking at least you can get some cash or credit out of it. All you can do with your digi download is delete it.

princejb1343851d ago

thankfully youll be able to download while playing on ps4
you get to choose what you want to download first between single player and multiplayer
it would download a piece of it and let you play that part while the rest of the game is downloading=]
ps4 ftw

sonarus3851d ago

i am still waiting to know exactly what kind of hdd ps4 will use so i can buy a 2TB one. that 500gb being offered already seems useless

DaGR8JIBRALTAR3851d ago

First day and 50 gigs wiped out...gone..fin! Shiiiiitt! Physical copy for me, like to have something tangible anyway.

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ala_7673851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

Damn! Now I think 500GB for PS4 is too small!

Bennibop3851d ago

Thank god I am buying PS4 and not Xbone, I have already got my 1TB hardrive (for less than £30)to upgrade. Look forward to seeing the cost of Microsofts offical HDD, going by this gen you will be paying £70! (remember 120gb for £80 at launch.)

MWong3851d ago

Agreed with the amount of Indie games coming out I might have to upgrade my HDD to at least a 750GB or 1TB drive.

Feralkitsune3851d ago

Indie games typically don't take up much space.

cyclindk3851d ago

Go to Best Buy and pick up a 1 Petabyte drive dawg.

Simple

Einhert3851d ago

and you can install any HDD in a PS4?

Nekroo913851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@Einhert no, it as to be a 2.5 HDD, same size as the ps3

Feralkitsune3851d ago

When will someone notice you said Petabyte? Lol

cyclindk3851d ago

Wait till we get to a Brontobyte... really, bronto :)

v6volume3851d ago

@Einhert in a sense yes but like Nekroo91 said, it's has to be those specifications and you can upgrade it yourself

Dark_Overlord3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

@cyclindk

I'll see your Brontobyte and raise you a Coperbyte ;)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/W...

Shake_Zula3851d ago

Here's my TV... and my rack-mounted PS4 and storage server... just... for... Killzone...

LMAO

Seriously though, upgrading the PS4's hard drive seems inevitable. In fact, I've got a 1TB SSHD just waiting for it. The only thing I wish I knew was at what RPM the factory drives are coming in.

#ITGeek

cyclindk3851d ago

@Dark_Overlord

I see your Coperbyte and raise you alls... :

Bit = 1 Binary Digit
Byte = 8 Bit
Kilobyte = 1024 Byte
Megabyte = 1024 Kilobyte
Gigabyte = 1024 Megabyte
Terabyte = 1024 Gigabyte
Petabyte = 1024 Terabyte
Exabyte = 1024 Petabyte
Zettabyte = 1024 Exabyte
Yottabyte = 1024 Zettabyte
Brontobyte = 1024 Yottabyte
Geopbyte = 1024 Brontobyte
Saganbyte = 1024 Geopbyte
Pijabyte = 1024 Saganbyte
Alphabyte = 1024 Pijabyte
Kryatbyte = 1024 Alphabyte
Amosbyte = 1024 Kryatbyte
Pectrolbyte = 1024 Amosbyte
Bolgerbyte = 1024 Pectrolbyte
Sambobyte = 1024 Bolgerbyte
Quesabyte = 1024 Sambobyte
Kinsabyte = 1024 Quesabyte
Rutherbyte = 1024 Kinsabyte
Dubnibyte = 1024 Rutherbyte
Seaborgbyte = 1024 Dubnibyte
Bohrbyte = 1024 Seaborgbyte
Hassiubyte = 1024 Bohrbyte
Meitnerbyte = 1024 Hassiubyte
Darmstadbyte = 1024 Meitnerbyte
Roentbyte = 1024 Darmstadbyte
Coperbyte = 1024 Roentbyte

1 Coperbyte is 989,292,945,639,150,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0 00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes

vigilante_man3851d ago

@Shake_Zula
I wouldn't worry. With USB 3 on board I am also guessing the Sata port will be 6Gbps.

Besides, I have placed 7,200 drives in my 2 PS3s and they DO run faster without any noise or heat problems than the installed 5,400 drives.

Mikeyy3851d ago

I too put a 7200 RPM in my PS3.

its the 10,000 RPMs that you had to look out for, they caused heat problems.

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specialguest3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

I used to think that 500gb would never be used up. Boy was I wrong. I also once thought 1tb was overkill, but now it seems standard.

Grave3851d ago

Looks like thats the first upgrade for me. 1TB will be new standard if next gen games are this size fo sho.

vigilante_man3851d ago

Going to put a 1TB into my 320GB PS3 soon and waiting for 2TB sata drives for PS4. Shame they never put 2 drive slots in the PS4 like you get in some high end laptops.

snipab8t3851d ago

10 games, choose wisely...

Crazyglues3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

See I told everybody this and they laughed at me, saying 500GB is huge...

I said no it's not because if games are 50GBs you can see how that could fill up fast...

They laughed.. well now that they have announced a game at 50GB's -and well now you see what I was saying.. -I'm just glad I upgraded mine to a 1TB - plan on doing a lot more digital copies this time around.

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PsylentKiller3851d ago

This is why I like the XB1 method of expandable HDD space. I can add an external hard drive. Yes, it will take up more space but it will be cheaper than a 2.5 HDD. I know it wont be ready at launch but hopefully soon after. Will the PS4 have this as well? If so, then great. If not, that's fine with me as the PS4 will be for exclusives for me.

Thehyph3851d ago

I've been telling people this, too.

A lot of people didn't consider that both Xbox One and PS4 will be using Bluray. It wont be just Sony's first party who will be taking advantage of the format's storage anymore. When games like Assassin's Creed and such make the jump to being next gen only, I would expect the size to increase dramatically.

I'm more of a fan of the PS4 approach than the Xbox One's. I would rather swap the internal drive than have something else dongled to the system.

LonDonE3851d ago

But this is nothing new, metal gear solid 4 on ps3 was also a 50gb disk, games on ps3 and 4 don't use compression for example, the audio files and the cinema's, while on 360 due to dvd format near enough everything was compressed.

Anyway ps3 games where mostly big in size so for most Playstation gamers its the norm, i believe killzone 3 was 41.5gb in size on blue ray, and killzone 2 was 12gb, and now killzone shadow fall is 50gb, so you can clearly see the size growing with each new release.

I downloaded GTA5 the night before launch night in around 3.5 hrs, and that was 18gb, so i am not worried, a 50gb game shouldn't take me that long, either way i think a 500gb hard drive should be fine for most users, like with ps3 you will have to just delete the games and data for games you are no longer playing, or obviously just buy a 1tb lap top hard drive and upgrade, its literally like lego, plug and play!

Its xbox users i feel sorry for, Microsoft is always forcing them to use proprietary hard ware, like with the 360 u could only buy the official xbox hard drive, where as on ps3 we could buy any old lap top hard drive, or 2.5inch drive, and we were good to go, Microsoft loves to take the piss, at least with Sony they give us options, granted the vita has a proprietary memory card, but that's more likely so they could stop piracy i think, lol

I think such huge sizes are only a concern with digital purchasers, but even then on a decent connection it should be fine, and the fact that we can download a small amount and start to play is awesome, no more waiting for the whole game.

Kleptic3851d ago

Psylentkiller...

the PS3 currently supports external HDD's via USB, as long as they are formatted a specific way (easy to do, it just won't recognize it until its complete thats all)...so i'd assume the PS4 would be equally open...

but...the catch is in DRM...so you couldn't install specific stuff to the external drive...in some cases even game saves couldn't be 'moved' from the allocated internal drive directory (and the only way to back that up is with PS+ cloud saves)...it just depends on the developers...

So its likely you'll be able to use an external HDD...just unknown what all you can do with it just yet...

Rumors are Plex is making a PS4 DLNA streaming app for the also, which will allow 2 way streaming to your networked PC, phone, whatever...so you can just use your existing other stuff to back up anything hopefully...but again, it depends what type of files are locked to the system...more than anythign...

Utalkin2me3851d ago

@PsylentKiller

Yes you can use a external drive on the PS4 if you wanted.

And a internal and external from newegg are pretty much the exact same price. So it would kind of be stupid to get a external for a PS4. Just cause the prices are exactly the same for external and internal drives.

Crazyglues3851d ago

@ Kleptic & Utalkin2me

No you can't use an external to store games will not work / has to be an internal drive only - http://n4g.com/news/1344588...

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Sevir3851d ago

500gb is perfect if you were only doing indie games... But with game world's getting bigger and more open, a 2 terabyte HDD is far more suited for going digital with Big AAA retail games and smaller indie titles alike... I'll upgrade to a 2 terabyte HDD when it comes available, till then, 70% of my AAA games will be physical

Crazyglues3851d ago

@ Sevir

yeah I thought about 2TB but they are asking too much money for it like $179 that's ridiculous so I just went with the 1TB for $69 bucks free shipping...

-but yeah if you don't plan on downloading games, you should be fine... 500GB will hold you.

but I want to step up my digital this time around for a few reasons,

-I never really sell my games
-I like not having to put the disc in
-I Like having the game on my Playstation acct.
could re-download any time..
-I like the deals they are doing now, like -for every 50 bucks you spend @ PSN store you get a 10 dollar credit- So I will buy BF4 ps3 digital and use my free 10 credit to get BF4 for PS4 upgrade for free...

so I'm not going all digital I'll still buy disc copies just depends on the game.. I'll probably be 40% digital this time.

-So with PLayStation deals and the upgrade to the system, it's a good time to start going more digital this time around.. imo..

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HeyImBen113851d ago

Just play the most games on disc :).

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snipab8t3851d ago

You'll still have to install it though, right?

NarooN3851d ago

Yeah but it'll be better and faster than downloading 50GB.

This is why physical media isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's not very feasible to expect people to constantly download games that are this big all the time, lol. At least in North America and many parts of Europe, the infrastructure doesn't allow ridiculously good speeds like Korea and Japan have.

And it's even worse for people with monthly bandwidth caps.

MAULxx3851d ago

Why would you have to install it?

Destrania3850d ago (Edited 3850d ago )

@NarooN

You don't have to install anything off the disc, it is completely optional. You can if you want it on your HDD.

snipab8t3851d ago

Yeah, also retail is also much cheaper usually.

Shake_Zula3851d ago

I just hope the retail version warrants a full install. It's kind of hard to picture 50GB of smooth gameplay streaming from optical media. :/

Destrania3850d ago

The Blu-Ray in PS4 is 6x faster than PS3's. Installations are completely optional from retail discs.

Majin-vegeta3851d ago

Hmm maybe let it download while tinkering with around with the other things on the PS4 :D

I been wondering lets say i purchase 3 gamrs off the PSN store on the PS4 will they both download at the same time or just one by one like PS3?

Idba3851d ago

i think with sony expanding their servers to get faster download speed that youæll be able to download 1 or more games at the same time

Thehyph3851d ago

You'd be gaming faster if you download one at a time anyway.

CocoWolfie3851d ago (Edited 3851d ago )

lets hope they fix the online prices this time around... in the u.k our r.r.p is £39.99 for standard retail copies. on the ps store? £49.99 to £59.99 -.-

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer153d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138153d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga152d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin152d ago (Edited 152d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem153d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos152d ago (Edited 152d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor152d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies152d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim152d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese152d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto152d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09153d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic152d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld152d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie152d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77153d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231151d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein152d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb152d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY151d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

Read Full Story >>
blog.playstation.com
SullysCigar343d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor343d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar343d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg343d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149342d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138343d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim343d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC343d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138343d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle343d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76343d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM342d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730343d ago (Edited 343d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger342d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca343d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy343d ago (Edited 343d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal343d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright343d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Guerrilla Announces Shutdown of Servers for Killzone: Shadow Fall and More

In August, online servers for several PlayStation games will shut down, leaving their multiplayer functions unplayable.

purple101634d ago

whrere on earth is the next killzone, im soooOOO thirsty for some proper weighted, (but still fast when running/sprinting) fps gamplay, it felt sooso so good on ps3, with that, lets be honest, very small, quite uncomfortable sixaxis dualshock controller, that was just too small for western sized hands, ok for japanese kids i suppose was the point>??

now with PS5 controller, it would be totally masterfull.

ClayRules2012634d ago

I hear you. I want some NEW Killzone, especially on PS5, with the PS5 DualSense controller with that ever so impressive DualSense of an experience Haptic feedback!

Knowing how far Guerrilla has come since Horizon: Zero Dawn, Killzone can only benefit greatly from their ever growing talent!!

Bobertt633d ago

I think Sony has given up on their exclusive shooters. They haven't released a remaster for the Resistance series or a new SOCOM game either. I don't think Guerilla is in a rush to make Killzone since they have Horizon now too :(.

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Outside_ofthe_Box634d ago

All I want is for them to build Killzone 2 with multiplayer included from the ground up, keep the gameplay the same, and I'll be happy.

GG with KZ3 and Shafowfall haven't been able to match KZ2 so I don't really have faith in another sequel.

Unfortunate that KZ2 came out during COD era where every game that didn't pay like Modern Warfare was deemed garbage. KZ2's multiplayer is definitely an all time great.

Michiel1989633d ago

since when was kz2 deemed garbage?

MizHDTV633d ago

Right on dude
KZ2 was just a special game to me

sinspirit633d ago

I'd love KZ2 multiplayer again. I also think they could easily incorporate a mode to compete with Battlefield style game modes

Seraphim633d ago

KZ2 was one of maybe a handful of games I actually put time into online. What a blast!! And the campaign was excellent as well. I certainly miss that dark world. Still ashamed I never buttoned up that Platinum.

Storm23633d ago

A remake of Killzone 2 with the same grittiness and feel on PS5 would be f*cking incredible. The SP and MP were just perfect. I played the sh*t out of that game. Would happily pay a lot of money for that.

DarXyde633d ago

Honestly, I don't like FPS games. They're not for me, but I do agree that there was something about KZ2 multiplayer that even someone like me enjoyed.

Sony really needs to get better about tearing down servers. I don't like that they shut them down.

shadowT633d ago

agree, KZ2 was a masterpiece

Muigi633d ago

KZ3 multiplayer was better imo.

Outside_ofthe_Box633d ago (Edited 633d ago )

@Michiel1989
"since when was kz2 deemed garbage?"

As with anything, things don't get the appreciation it deserves until way after it's release.

KZ2 got a lot of flak for it's weighty controls that many mistook for input lag. People didn't like that it wasn't a twitch shooter like CoD. You also had people saying things like "it feels like you're controlling a midget", "enemies take too long to die" (you can't pray and spray in kz2. You have to shoot in bursts for your shots to be more accurate), people complained about the sniping, etc.

This led to a lot of changes in KZ3 that turned the vets off like reducing the amount of variables for bullet damage, getting rid of spawn grenades, etc.

BISHOP-BRASIL633d ago

@DarXyde

I don't think there's much Sony or any other company in that position can do much different about it... Keeping servers running simply cost money, these gomes don't generate none anymore, so eventually they need to pull the plug.

Astrokis633d ago

KZ2 was definitely better then KZ3, but the third one still had strong suits. It’s been many years but I remember something about Shadow Fall being made by a team at GG that did NOT do KZ2 and KZ3 multiplayer which is why it felt different. I remember when I found that out it made a lot of sense about Shadow Falls multiplayer feeling so off.

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elazz634d ago

Horizon zero dawn sold more copies than all of the killzone franchise combined including spin offs on handheld. I guess that's the reason why won't see killzone from guerilla soon. There is at least one more mainline horizon coming out and their second team is working on horizon VR I believe. So it's gonna be a while unless another studio takes over.

Profchaos633d ago

I've been playing a lot of Killzone 2 on rpcs3 with a duelsense combined with the ability to remap controls to a modern standard and bump the game to 60fps it shows that we really need a remaster to probably the best killzone game to date although shadowfall technically beats it in the graphics department art style was so different that they are incomparable

MizHDTV633d ago

I’d be happy with a release of KZ2

John_McClane633d ago

Killzone went to the same place as Socom and Mag, more money in 25 hour single player games with no servers to maintain. Socom was literally the reason I bought a PS2, Resistance FOM the reason I bought a PS3, all gone now.

senorfartcushion633d ago (Edited 633d ago )

Killzone has never been weighted correctly, the jumping never worked.

A new properly-weighted shooter in the Killzone series would be great. More like Killzone 1 and 2 than SF.

I think the issue comes from the fact that the Helghast side is sympathetic while looking like Nazi stormtroopers. The Trump age has led artists to avoid this look entirely.

ironmonkey633d ago

I feel something may be announced soon

ManMarmalade633d ago (Edited 633d ago )

The sixaxis felt fine in my hands since they're small, but the ps5 really made me feel the difference. So ergonomic.

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Gardenia633d ago

Killzone 2 was/is so good and it still looks good today. The multiplayer was fun as well. If they make a new Killzone I hope it is the style of Killzone 2.

Hauntedasylum8634d ago

I wish Sony didn’t abandon Resistance and Killzone. Those are some of my favorite series on PlayStation. If they’re not gonna make anymore, then maybe a remastered collection of each could be negotiated.

DefenderOfDoom2634d ago

KILLZONE 2 was my reason for buying a PS3. If a new KILLZONE or RESISTANCE was coming out in 22 I would try to buy a PS5 immediately.

Lightning77633d ago

SSOD2 would be big for Sony. The only reason they would be interested in it is if they can turn it into a live service game.

In which I can see that happening.

Hauntedasylum8633d ago

Hell yeah, brother. You and me both.

VanDamme633d ago

For anyone trying to understand @Lightning77’s comment, they had a typo, this should clarify:

SOD2
Superoxide dismutase 2, mitochondrial, also known as manganese-dependent superoxide dismutase, is an enzyme which in humans is encoded by the SOD2 gene on chromosome 6.

Profchaos633d ago

After 5 killzone games including portable Sony felt it needed a break I wouldn't say its abandoned however I believe we may randomly get a ps5 remaster with improved lighting to test the waters and eventually a full blown new game after all you can't just leave shadowfall on that ending

SeTTriP633d ago

Horizon is priority now its a mega franchise for them maybe after Horizon they might revisit.

Imalwaysright633d ago

I refuse to play for online play but there is one game that would make pay for it and that's Resistance Fall of Man. That's the only game that would make me throw my principles out of the window without feeling ashamed of myself.

jBlakeeper633d ago

Remember in the mid 2000’s when nearly every developer started to do FPS or linear third person? Now nearly every developer wants to do open world exclusively because it’s the easiest type of game to leave things out and then expand upon the world with DLC.

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deleted634d ago

So many fond memories of both Shadowfall and Mercenaries Vita online! Shadowfall's SP may have been weak, but the MP was still a ton of fun. I had a lot of time in both, and it's especially tough seeing the Vita's best mp experience get shut down.

RIP my old friends.

LoveSpuds633d ago (Edited 633d ago )

In my opinion, I thought the single player games was really decent too and was treated quite harshly by the critics, but then, I think the Killzone franchise as a whole was kinda under rated by the critics. I always enjoyed the story in these games and I liked the slower, more deliberate gunplay too.

I remember getting my PS4 on day 1 and the first game I installed was Killzone Shadowfall, my workmates and I would play it for hours on end, the mode whish switched between game modes was brilliant.

P_Bomb634d ago

A world without Killzone Online. That it’s come to this…

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