Crytek CEO: Ryse wouldn't have run at 1080p on PS4; decision was choice, not hurdle

Crytek CEO, Cevat Yerli has had his hands full with Ryse, not only with its development but also with speculation surrounding the Xbox One exclusive's technical makeup. When questioned whether it would have been possible to run the game with the same performance at 1080p on the PS4, Yerli's response was rather interesting.

[King-Prodigy-X]

"A liar begins with making falsehood appear like truth, and ends with making truth itself appear like falsehood."

-William Shenstone

[Bathyj]

From another William
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

I havent really weighed in too much on this Ryse thing because my lack of interest has nothing to do with the graphics, but its all just starting to sound like damage control now.

They shouldnt have crapped on so much about what a powerhouse it was to start with if it wasnt but that was probably more the fanboys pinning all their hopes on it more than anything.

Anyway, let the game do the talking from now, if anyone wants to buy this game it shouldnt be for the resolution or the polygon count.

[sinjonezp]

Well said and the cat is out of the bag. The internet is a mainstream for delivering instant information. Its not like the old days where you hear about a game. Like the game based on what you hear; we want full details and these details are leaked. Gamers want the best experience possible and every bit of information leaked is making the game less desirable. Now they want to throw the other console under the bus cause they cannot provide desired performance. Just keep quiet, optimize your game to make it fun, and deliver a quality product. Period.

[pixelsword]

"Well said and the cat is out of the bag"

More like the cat is out of the box.

http://i.huffpost.com/gadge...

:)

By the looks of things since actual footage is starting to surface, in reality, the cat didn't really fit in the first place:

http://i.huffpost.com/gadge...

Heh, heh, heh... I'ma change that one; gimmie an hour or a day; depending on if I still have imageReady lol. :)

[Soc5]

Yeah and all this chatter will be irrelevant if the game turns out great or turns out to be crap. The polygon count won't make the difference if it plays amazingly or is mediocre.

[BattleAxe]

William Shakespeare:

"To be or not to be, that is the question"

[vigilante_man]

Are we all forgetting about the secret sauce that can now be disclosed by Microsoft/AMD?

All the game needs is a topping of this new secret sauce and problem solved!

[pixelsword]

Quote from Othello, which fits, oddly:

"'O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;It is the green-ey'd monster, which doth mockThe meat it feeds on."

Hour's up:

http://s22.postimg.org/68mk...

[abzdine]

"Shut up Crytek and go to work"

abzdine

[Ryto]

These cat and boxes pictures have got me in tears! Love the wit guys!

On another note, how would he know it wouldn't do that on PS4? Are crytek even currently developing a game on the PS4? Just sounds like theyre papping their pants. Should have made Timeplitters 4 multi plat instead of ryse.

[Haules]

So much hype and discussion regarding this dull game...

[legionsoup]

I don't see anywhere in the twitter link where it says it wouldn't run at 1080p on the PS4.

What am I missing?

[worldwidegaming]

Indeed. Its the first reason to play a game in the first place.

[mewhy32]

I sincerely doubt that the mights PS4 couldn't have ran this at 1080p. Yeah. It could have done it easily.

[Consoldtobots]

so now MS is rolling out heads of studios to comment about what's possible for a title THAT IS NOT being developed for PS4 on the PS4??

oi vey what an absolute mess they are turning this hobby into.

[Deadpoolio]

@vigilante_man: Oh jesus christ there is no secret sauce it is not september 30th the NDA expired yesterday morning at midnight THERE IS NOT SECOND GPU.....There NEVER was

[Consoldtobots]

oh and the most obvious point I forgot to mention

when you are talking about your competitors product instead of yours......you already lost.

[UltimateMaster]

Does this confirms that the game is coming to PS4?

[The_Con-Sept]

Let them say what they want. Every day ryse sounds a lot like Lair every day. Didn't lair have QTE's as well?

Ryse.... Lair.... Rise.... Lair.... Haze.... All of these games have 4 letter titles for them.....

[LonChaneyTV]

"I don't see anywhere in the twitter link where it says it wouldn't run at 1080p on the PS4."

word has it that the consoles can't even run Battlefield 4 at max settings at 800p. (shocker!!)

In the PC world there are always new features made to obligate you to upgrade your hardware, Crytek and DICE are known for that.

In truth both companies can take any console and force it to run at 700p, with all of the new features they come up with.

[NewZealander]

downscale the polygon count and improve resolution and textures, fine by me! i don't even notice the poly difference, but those textures look far better!

also calling them liars is a bit harsh, crytec are amazing when it comes to visuals, i have full faith in their decision.

[karl]

maybe on pc where graphics potential is quite unlimited compared to consoles and visuals depend on new tech...

but consoles lack that power and all is about optimization, not the best graphics.

and crytek doesnt really stand out in that area.

[Athonline]

Crytek is all about raw power usage, producing the best visuals. Their optimisation is awful.

You can see that in the original Far Cry and all three Crysis games (especially the first one).

I played around a little bit with their CryEngine (available for free) and even some of the simple algorithms (i.e. sorting) and data structures, sometimes are non-efficient. It works, but where it needs O(N) (Computer Scientists should get me ;)), it takes O(N^2)...

It is a pity as Ryse was a game I was looking forward to. The new textures certainly look nice, but I play relatively close to my monitor and I can spot resolution differences...

[BX81]

@karl, I don't think consoles lack the power to produce good graphics. Producing the best graphics? No they can't. I thought crisis was the best looking shooter on consoles(just my opinion).

[karl]

I meant to get the visuals of games like crysis or battlefield....

And crysis on console look really nice but it want consistent.. some stuff look great and other like crap to me.

Till this day nothing beats killzone.. just my opinion though

[RedDragan]

There's a difference between visuals and fidelity. 1080p would be the latter, whilst more objects being rendered would be the former.

Which would gamers prefer if fidelity is 720p or 1080p?

My personal opinion is 720p with more action on screen but I understand 1080p is important for others, so also on my list is gameplay. If that works then I am happy regardless. :)

[PSX04]

this is just a liar told media for marketing

[SegaSaturn669]

Why downscale now? Isn't this project years old?

Why would they change the resolution so close to release after flaunting it earlier?

It's like they're channeling M$'s amazing ability to change their mind.

[BX81]

Maybe a change in the hardware from then till now. Being finalized? Just a guess I'm not some industry guru so take it with a grain of salt. Lol

[DeadlyFire]

They are taking it down a notch to insure a stable framerate as CryEngine 3.x used for 1BX/PS4 likely isn't fully optimized for the platforms yet. Its a reason alot of launch games might land on 720p in 2013. 1080p is more than possible on PS4. Just depends on how deep they want the graphics and how in touch with the tools they are on both systems. EA has a partnership with Microsoft so all their games on PS4 could be 720p alongside the 1BX versions.

The Dev kit build always has more polygons than the final version of the game. They scale it down to the game to maximize framerate. This happens to every game. Usually developers are not showcasing the higher poly build to the public though. Triangles or polygons doesn't matter. Its still a representation of graphics in a number form. I say look at the images to judge the quality yourself when its released.

[WarThunder]

They talk like they have been testing the game on the PS4... he hasn't even worked on the PS4 devkit properly and he says it wouldn't run on PS4 at 1080p.... So much damage control...

You think they would say otherwise? and make MS look bad....

A Next gen exclusive game running below 1080p is not acceptable and there are no excuses....

[RVanner_]

I was very surprised when I started seeing the articles mentioning some games would be running at 720p. They're is absolutely no reason not to achieve 1080p when less powerful PC's can and have been for some time. But the proof will be in the pudding and the only way it to wait and see how the games look when released. For me a higher resolution is more noticeable than a slight boost in image quality. Personal preference may be.

[Magicite]

Oops! He really shouldnt have said that, because now..Shitstorm is coming!
On a serious note - how many PS4 games have Crytek made or is at least developing now?

[come_bom]

LOL... if one developer claims that the PS4 is all mighty and can handle anything, then he's speaking the truth. But if another developer claims that the PS4 couldn't handle the game at 1080p, then he's lying and making stuff up.

Fanboys believe what they choose to believe... makes them most of the times wrong.

[Taislin]

When a developer who is working on PS4 says good things about it, we are tempted to believe, but if someone who isn´t working and has never worked on it (to the public knowledge at least) talks about it with such certainty, one should exert caution and take what they say with a grain of salt.

Simple logic really, it´s called having a brain.

[come_bom]

@Taislin

Do you really believe that Crytek is not working on their game engine Cryengine for the PS4 ? Do you really think they don't know what kind of hardware the PS4 has ? CryEngine (4th Generation) already supports the PS4 so that means they have been working with the PS4 for quite some time. How naive can you be.

You should use your brain more often!

[pwr_lVl]

@Taislin But yet KILLZONE Shadowfall can run at 1080p 60 FPS on the PS4 and IMO looks far better than RYSE

[allgamespc2012]

good shit son, i like you

[xtremeimport]

when commenting on a system exclusive a dev will never admit to be able to do something on another console that they cant accomplish on the system they're developing on.

Thats just, logic.

[Blaze929]

What does a multi-platform developer, have to do with Microsoft and lying? Smh you Sony fans just seem to know more than everyone now adays huh? Even developers who...you know...actually do this for a living.

This is crytek of all developers. I'm pretty sure they have PS4 devkits and know what they are talking about. It's not like they are a Microsoft exclusive company.

[nosferatuzodd]

at this time i cant believe anything coming from micro soft camp anymore

[Convas]

Someone call me in November when the retail game ships.

Enough is enough. How much more can you talk about this?

[SevenSwords485]

We couldn't really know since they really haven't tried. But the PS4 might just be more powerful than X1 so it should run better..

[Foxgod]

Crytek is a multi developer, i am 100 % sure they got the ps4 dev kits and know what they are talking about.

I would not be surprised if they are working hard already on the next Crysis for X1 and Ps4.

[SevenSwords485]

Wasn't Ryse suppose to be an Kinect game at first. Maybe they never tried. But you are most likely right.

[-Foxtrot]

" and know what they are talking about. "

Yeah they do....while they have there hand so far up Microsoft's backside they're struggling to get it back out.

[Tito08]

Sure, but difference is their game is exclusive to XBox, it's more convenient for him and MS because if he says it would do the same, that would make MS look bad, he's negotiating with MS, it's in his best interest to make MS look good, it's all business man.

[CEOSteveBallmer]

yeah keep telling yourself that. Sorry but they don't have any games for PS4 right now. and whats to stop them from making "false accusation" about the other company?? those 1Billion MS invested in gamnes was to buy 3rd party exclusives. crytek is not a 1st party MS dev, insomniac is not, remedy is not owned by MS, capcom not owned by MS, double helix not owned by MS, and yet they make these exclusives respectively = Ryse, sunset overdrive, quantum break, dead rising 3, killer instinct. If these devs want a good relations with MS, they should talk good points about MS and not so good points about PS4. Why can't you accept PS4 is powerful "hardwarewise" MS admitted this indirectly why can't you?? you can say the sane for sony having 3rd party exclusives but atleast most of their heavy hitters is 1st pary and sony owned.

[LordDhampire]

You dont just develop a game on another system if your not going to release it....not even crytek has that manpower so no...Im sure they dont know what they are talking about

[iamnsuperman]

Well yeh and no. There is so much developers can do with a console (especially early in its life) so they have to decide what are the most important things to push (i.e. limited by the hardware). A lot of developers go for a lower frame rate and, like they did, a lower resolution so they can bolster other areas.

My biggest issue is they keep bringing the reason for lower resolution back to making the game look better (granted not here) but I want them to talk about AI and physics more than how the game looks. Games look good now but they have a problem when it comes to the other stuff (physics and AI). For too long AI has been fairly dumb. It is time developers start pushing that

[obelix01]

Having the AI finally be unpredictable.

[moegooner88]

Did anyone bother to read the article, he says it is a design choice, he isn't talking about power for either console.

[BlueTemplar]

It's implied - nobody designing a game for the next-gen is going to intentionally target 900p rather than 1080p

[KonsoruMasuta]

Yes, let's make up things to make ourselves feel better. He never said anything like that.

This whole page is based on blind fanboys putting words in his mouth.

[BlueTemplar]

@KonsoruMasuta Haha why the hell would they intentionally target a lower resolution??

@The diagrees:

You do realize you are actively encouraging developers to not be the slightest bit arsed about developing games for 1080p right?

[MoonWheel]

So you're saying they wanted the game to be 900p instead of 1080p from the start. That is such a total lie. If they could get the game to play in 1080 properly they would have done it.

[starchild]

Jeez are you guys really this dense?

By design decision they mean that they chose to have more advanced graphics rather than a full 1080p resolution.

Of course they could have got the game to run at 1080p. But the graphics would have been pared back in some ways.

[BlueTemplar]

@StarChild

"Of course they could have got the game to run at 1080p. But the graphics would have been pared back in some ways."

Errr... so the 900p was a compromise to get the performance up to scratch then - i think thats pretty much the exact point people are making.

[Consoldtobots]

"more advanced graphics" is gonna be their answer for every title that doesn't measure up from now on.

smh

[LordDhampire]

Please tell me this is sarcasm....if not guys at least one chump...I mean sap....I mean valued customer believed the article

[FlameHawk]

This guy sure has been talking a lot, so much damage control, and he shouldn't even say that since he hasn't even worked on the PS4.

[andibandit]

Youre right, he could be saying the game cant run on an atari2600, but its bs until he works on an Atari2600

Hmm wait a sec

[OrangePowerz]

Yes of course it was out of their choice to run it in a lower resolution and had nothing at all to do with hardware. Just like it was their choice to run Crysis 2 and 3 on consoles in sub HD and that had nothing to do with the hardware either.

It`s one thing to admit that your game doesn`t run in 1080p or with 30fps instead of 60, but it`s different if you try to spin it around and say it was your choice and had nothing to do with difficulties to make it run in 1080p or 60fps.

[Brix90]

Sounds like bs just based on the fact how do you know if this game isn't being developed for PS4 I haven't heard of any games that have had problems with resolution on PS4 besides BF4. After all this negative news that's come out sounds like damage control like Battlefield developers supposedly pushing X1 now higher resolutions after complaints and now Crytek stating it would be the same problems if it was on Ps4 when both systems have a different architecture.

[christocolus]

mr cevat yeril just climbed up the ranks in my books .the guy has got some huge balls to declare stuff like this..and before fbs start attacking him they should know crytek isnt 1st party to ms they are 2nd party hence they most likely got ps4 dev kits too ...anyways besides ryse,dr3 etc im looking forward to the next wave of games coming out next year on the xbx one..those should definitely look even better than what we have now ..thumbs up guys

[corroios]

A game that isnt 1080 isnt next gen... Its that simple. Its an exclusive build just for one machine... There are no excuses... It could even be 1080/30, but lower than that...

Im paying for a next gen console and not for something that doesnt have full HD as standard. We are almost at 2014 and this cant be. The spent millions building the console and at least we should have fhd from the start.

[Mustang300C2012]

One of he most idiotic post I have seen. Well the PS4 isn't next gen then.

[DistroyerOfFanbums]

By your logic, Wipeout HD is next gen..

[starchild]

Then prepare for disappointment. There are going to be lots of games on both platforms that are less than 1080p and 60fps.

I predict that the majority of games will not be 1080p/60fps.

I don't know why people think that just because it is a new generation that all of a sudden 1080p or 60fps is a given. They could have reached those targets on the PS2 or the PS3, but it's just a matter of what they would have given up. The graphics in games would have been much worse if they had to achieve 1080p/60fps.

You only have so many graphical resources on consoles and most developers are going to choose to push more advanced graphics rather than blind adherence to some resolution or FPS standard.

[THC CELL]

Damage control. I say again it takes a year or so to get used to a new console. Developers won't admit that Xbox is crap and letting down spec if it s a exclusive. I can't wait for naughty dog or mm or God of war developer sm to show these and the Xbox fans up really. Also plantside 2 going to run at full spec 1000 vs 1000 no cuts so bf4 dice and crytek stfu n tell the truth Xbox is a fail.

[_QQ_]

Crytek, the developers most experienced with PC architecture making negative statements against a console that uses near identical PC architecture.... has to be damage control.....that "it takes years to learn the console excuse isn't valid this gen".I'm excited for PS4 too but time to come back to reality fanboys.

[quenomamen]

Tell us again who you know how the game would run on hardware you never developed it for. Crytek are the biggest bunch of BSrs next to MS

[TheOneEyedHound]

Agreed.

[_QQ_]

You realize the ps4 and xboxone architecture is so close to PCs they can almost kiss it.Graphics wise Crytek is by far the most experienced and capable developers when it comes to PC architecture.There is no "learning the system" this time around.

[Sevir]

This is just laughable at it's best, Crytek and MS have been very deceptive... First they claim it was running at 1080p and one month before it releases they say they change the games resolution, now they claim, a system that is quantifiable by specs to be stronger than what they are working on, can't run said software better!... I call bullshit!

If the Xbox One was capable of running a game like Ryse the way it was intended when they demonstrated it at The Xbox One reveal there would be zero need to drop framerates and resolutions while overclocking CPU and GPU for more over head...

The hocus pocus by MS and some of it's affiliates is turning the water Murky every minute. I'm not buying it this for a second... The Xbox one is the only machine that's had drastic measures applied to it hardware and software and this has happened since it's been announced in May.

Spec upgrades to change the clear advantages Sony has over it on specs and power. Sony hasn't downgraded games or announced changes to hardware.

The Xbox One is a weak Next Gen console, capable but weak, and the fact that flagship games for the console are having issues with framerate and having to drop resolutions and make concessions get it to run properly is troubling... PS4 > XBOX One! And the devil is all in the details...

[starchild]

He never said the PS4 isn't more powerful. Maybe it's simply not more powerful to a degree that would allow it to run at 1080p.

Oh, and both the XB1 and PS4 are weak next gen consoles compared to high end PCs. They are weaker relative to PCs than the PS3 and Xbox 360 were when they came out.

Why do you console gamers always pretend not to care about graphics when the PC is part of the discussion even though you clearly do. If you care so damn much about graphics you should come over to PC gaming. It beats the consoles every time.

[Krosis]

Wasted air on this site. Teh mighty Ps4 rules on N4G...lol

The consoles crowd always has the same delusions every launch--no sense fighting it. Part of the problem is idiots like Cerny spewing half-truths and artificially making claims of power that doesn't exist. Sony always muddles details as market strategy. Reality is, and always will be:
PC>Console(doesn't matter which, they are so close to differentiate--computational fact)

Now it is PC>STEAMbox>console. Consoles are good bang for the buck and have some nice exclusives--but when it comes to power, even at day one launch, they are underwhelming. But what can one expect for $400-500?

[abusador]

Microsoft adds 200, 000 to check and now you have a pathetic attempt at new levels of damage control, wowwwwww. Why are you even mentioning ps4? You must have been directed to, Smh.

Seriously then damage control on xbone AnD this game is sad. Next time stfu and don't make a presentation on fake numbers and have your game running on suped up PCs so you don't have to back track so much. Thank god after mediocre crysis 2 which killzone 2 wiped the floor with visually and performance wise I've since never bought a Crytek game again. Santa Monica could make a game doubly visually impressive on ps4 and make it 1080p

[marloc_x]

CHRIST, HE WAS ASKED IN A FRIGGIN TWEET ABOUT THE PS4?! YOU FOOL!

[Kayant]

I don't buy still has much I think the game has improved in some places for the better since it's polygon downgrade i find it hard to believe this. Like it was put on gaf -

Do we expect all future Crytek games to be 900p? --> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

So you would have made that decision on PC too, Crytek? Hm? ---> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It's a hardware limitation no two ways around it if not the original vision would be there with all the improvements recently made as well. There's a reason why not every game is 1080p 60fps on both platforms because devs are either targeting graphical effects and features or framerate/performance. It's a tradeoff for something else especially at launch where they don't know all the in and put of the system/being inefficient with their code.

[JonnyLH]

I can't actually believe how childish the gaming community has got, this is utter ridiculous.

The fact of the matter is, Ryse has always ran at 900p which wasn't caught until Aaron Greenberg put it on twitter which caused an outcry of "DOWNGRADE" comments even though all the footage, including E3 was at 900p (which even fooled me). Also, don't say "GAF DID SCREENSHOTZ COMPARISONZ" because counting dots on a screenshot which is already 1080p and has had a chunk of effects and already hardware upscaled doesn't have the native source dimensions intact.

This tweet around 1080p to 900p being a design choice. Of course it was! Shall we have more LoD with better lighting, shaders, mappings at 900p which isn't too visually noticing before post-processing and the frame-buffer or shall we have more pop-in, less LoD, an un-steady framerate and worse lighting at shaders at 1080p? Every hardware has a limitation, and every hardware can handle more LoD, lighting, better shaders at a dropped resolution.

In this case, they dropped the main characters polys for better shaders. Grats to Crytek, because it looks way better for it.

Jesus sweet christ, people.

[Baka-akaB]

Meh , some people arent even claiming they know , detected or noticed things on those technical aspects ... they are just having a riot or making fun , of how much BS can crytek or a few MS rep spin everyday .

The whole show and boasting came from them in the first place , alongside their little army of fanboys , in the press or forums , too happy about such best graphics "victory" .

You'll find that most of those people dont care that the game had to deal with limitations on either consoles or not . And would shut up for the most part , if not for the constant PR parade .

PR spokespersons and reps needs to be removed from the gaming industry ASAP ... but it wont happen

[TomahawkX]

You seriously think they set out for 900p from the onset? How friggin gullible are you? LMFAO

I don't think anyone has even heard of 900p until this fiasco, what number is that even? its 180 + 720p! LOL

[JonnyLH]

You're exactly the sort of person I'm talking about. The p is just the display format, which is progressive. The full dimensions are 1600x900.

The CEO of Crytek has told you that this game was 900p in E3, so its 900p in E3. Unless you get me proof to show me otherwise, then I believe the CEO of the company who is making the game.

Also from looking at the screenshots released prior, it is obvious now I know that it is actually 1600x900 but the quality of the shaders and post-processing (which is actually 1080p) make up for it.

Educated replies please.

[marloc_x]

What he said^

[abusador]

Lol hahahahaha neo GAF is having a field day with this bs damage control and I'm loving it. I'm glad everyone sees this for what it is. Thanks Microsoft for proving all our points and don't worry we learned about Cryotek a long time ago, they woukdnt get our money anyway lol

[ohboy]

This is going to be the most highly competitive console release in the history of video games and I started in N.E.S i can't wait for launch =}

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

Not trolling but can some one PLEASE explain to me how ryse looks better then kz:sf?

I most need my eye's checked or something because it doesn't.everyone is saying this without a explanation from what I've seen they have two totally different art styles look nothing alike and in different genres.

So now where comparing exclusive lol what happened to comparing them this gen?

[JonnyLH]

http://fc06.deviantart.net/...
In-game cinematic, which as known on Ryse. The cinematics use all the in-game artefacts.

Also, I'm not stating Ryse is visually better looking. They're different genres with different artistic styles for a total different purpose. I'm just showing some eye candy.

[Hicken]

Then you didn't do what he asked.

And with good reason: you can't.

Graphically, Killzone is the best looking release game out, and it's doing SO MUCH more than Ryse. You can claim Ryse looks pretty, and maybe it does, but it's not on the same level as Killzone.

And as for your previous comments, there's no way in hell they deliberately targeted a display resolution of 900p. Why? Because it's not a common display resolution. They'd only try for it if they couldn't reach 1080 like they initially desired.

My TV doesn't output at 900p. Does yours?

[kaozgamer]

They have a partnership with Microsoft. Do you really expect them to be like "Oh yeah it will run much better on PS4!" ?

[Tooly]

no, but they shouldn have even mentioned the ps4

[marloc_x]

HE WAS ASKED TOOL.

[arbitor365]

crytek is a little short on credibility at the moment. they need to go back to making PC games and get out of microsoft's pocket. they are being held back.

[DevilishSix]

Who care Crytek has a history of sh** gameplay and short games. Their first Far Cry and Crysis games were good everything else has been mediocre.

[marcofdeath]

It's not Microsoft is desperate, it's Sony is desperate they are not shown one videogame just one that has shown there machine is the best. It's you Sony fanboys that won't wake up! Time and time again we see BS stories from this site and others, that just don't add up, you guys made a big deal about the polygon rate and what happened you are blown away by the facts Xbox one is running characters at a polygon rate as high as a high-end PC. Fanboys still want to believe in the crap, you guys are holding on every single little story you can get your hands on and nothing, none of them have to pan out. The list of facts are getting longer and longer. 1. Not one 1080p 60 frames per second game.(Not low-quality multiplayer maps)
2. Not one game that can run at 900p.
3. Not one game that visually looks better.
4. Not one game we have seen so far using PRT.(See BF4 video from skyscraper)
5. Can not run a game in 4K. XB1 and VI can!
8. Weak PSU.
9. Weaker system bandwidth. real world XB1 200gb vs 155gb maybe?
10. Amount of console ran 32MB = 8gb + 8GB high speed flash VS 8.4 GB
I can add a couple more but why. And according to Albert of MS Euro gamer has more documents about Xbox ones hardware to share with us to complete Xbox ones architectural hardware.

[brometheos]

Have you been living under a Microsoft rock? Seriously don't touch that keyboard until you truly know what you are talking about.

[marcofdeath]

Where is Sony's 900p game?

[CEOSteveBallmer]

please stop. dont make yourself look stupid. Killzone shadowfall and infamous are 1080p native but is playing between 30-60fps at the moment. not 900p which is inferior for you information. you want a Link?? your felow xbox fans admitted this already, why cant you?? i hope your paid well by MS. and one last thing. TAKE THIS ADVERTISING OF XBONE ELSEWHERE, YOU WONT CONVERT PEOPLE TO BUY AN XBONE.

[marcofdeath]

Please post a link where they say that killzone is 1080p or infamous is 1080p ?

[akpenob]

@marcofdeath

There you go :-)
http://ps4daily.com/2013/06...

mind you that google are your frind :-)

[Urzusix]

Love all this talk about a game that will be in $10 bargain bins by March

[Tontus]

PR bollocks.

They aren't even developing it for the PS4 yet they know it couldn't handle Ryse at 1080p? God of War 4 will make Ryse look like a PS3 game and I bet it'll run at 1080p with better character models, lighting and effects.

[marcofdeath]

Because Crytek are not a first party game maker. They actually will be making games for the PS4, so he actually knows the hardware of both machines. So when crisis four comes out we already know the best version will be on Xbox one.

[Urzusix]

Isn't this the same guy that claimed Crysis 3 was the best Crysis and we were all fools for not understanding this lol cant wait to see what he says when its cross platforms games "OMG like PS4 is soo awesome"

[RealTalk]

Isn't this the same company that is known for pushing graphics first?I find it very hard to believe if they were developing Ryse for the ps4 that it wouldn't had been in 1080p given ps4's stronger hardware.

[hankmoody]

I just don't understand the need for these die hard PS4 people to crap on the XB1 every chance they get. Seriously, you guys are just making yourselves look like elitist scumbags with all the nonsense you guys carry on. According to you people, every pro-XB1 article is just PR spin and anyone who is giving praise to the XB1 is being paid off. If you guys could care so much less about the XB1, then why are so many of you following news on it every single day on here? So you can talk specs when you know next to nothing about them?

[-Gespenst-]

Visuals, visuals, visuals. It's all Crytek seem to ever be able to talk about. Their games suck in every department but the visuals, can we please just forget about Crytek? They're contributing nothing to videogames but superficiality.

[FlyingFoxy]

Have to agree with you, they care more about a game looking best rather than great with performance. They rather release a average/below average game with great graphics rather than a good game that runs well.

Their games always run as badly as benchmarks do even on good computers, that is not really acceptable.

I've never cared for their games anyway, i much prefer Valve's stuff.

[GraveLord]

900p isn't a design choice. Its a trade-off.
Xbox One isn't capable of running Ryse in 1080p with that amount of detail and still release as a launch title. Compromises were obviously made.

[AnthonyJrWTF]

Do all the Sony snobs sit and wait for more Xbox news to crush on? I bet all of you believe in Yesus because some old book told a wild story, just as easily as you soak up any controversy like pro developers.

Remember how Forza ran at 1080p natively? Did we all forget that this machine is capable of great looking games? Can we consider that the window to launch is so damn short that all these developers need to make decisions that enable them to optimize quickly and efficiently for one final quality control check? Are you all incapable of understanding that these launch titles absolutely prove nothing in the long-run because they were completely rushed out the door?

And at least... Can we just agree that the CEO knows what he is talking about? They only need "damage control" because all the Sony boys are causing vapor-uproar.

[hankmoody]

You talk sense but on N4G, that matters little. Bubble for you.

[oldassgamer]

They fail to realize that the perception of a downgrade is already out there. It may not make a difference visually, but at this point the public thinks that they are downgrading because the X1 hardware can't handle it. Public perception is everything, and the more they try to spin it, the worse it gets.

[brometheos]

Killzone Shadow fall disagrees. That game looks better than Ryse and runs at 1080p WITH higher frame rates. That's not to mention how all the other developers are saying the PS4 is more powerful, even former Gears of War developer. No need for damage control Crytek, it is what it is.

[marcofdeath]

Only in 1080p in multiplayer that is of a lower quality.

[JimmyLmao]

He is saying that it was a choice to run in 900p

not that the PS4 couldn't handle Ryse in 1080p,

Ryse is an xbox one exclusive, so obviously the developers have not tried to get the game to run on a PS4, so how would they know if it could or could not handle Ryse at 1080p, there guess is as good as yours or mine.

[SynestheticRoar]

WOW. They lie so easily as if, gamer's are children with no common sense.

[Izzy408]

50% more raw power...? I think not.

[cactusjack]

crytek admited to making a bad game, it takes courage to do that.

[Flames76]

I dont believe Ryse could run on the PS4 period.We all seen at E3 every game sony tried to play on stage crashed

[svoulis]

Thats pretty funny.... /s

What actually IS funny is that we have seen so many games running on PS4 hardware and NOT running on Xbox One hardware...even this close to launch.

Carry on though :D

[Mozef]

As for me I will get the both Consoles to enjoy my life and entertainment system. I'm a big fan of Sony PlayStation and Yes my PS4 in its way to me in November. BUT think about it, would you love to enjoy great games? why would you limit your self? I want to enjoy my free time playing a great game whether it's in PS4 or Xbox1.

[DVAcme]

You know, bragging about how much a launch game pushes the limits of your system and how the other console can't handle it smacks of hyperbole. The games that push the system should come by the END of a console's life cycle, not the beginning.

Plus, people keep forgetting, when all's said and done, that Ryse's gameplay looks like absolute crap. It's more of a technical demo than a game. It's XB1's version of The Bouncer(HA! remember that shit?!).

[jlo]

Both consoles are weak and underpowered, which isnt surprising.

You ps4 fanboys just sit here and hate on anyone who says anything bad about the ps4. But if he says something nice about the ps4, 'hey hes a dev he knows what hes talking about'

Honestly you're more annoying than pc elitists and ms fanboys. Its compounded by the fact that your console is also a weak pile of junk, yet you're too in love with your little black box to see it. The damage control when you get bad news (watch dogs 30 fps, bf4 720p) is hilarious

Be under no illusion. Your console is also underpowered, just like the xbox one.

[MajorAly]

So consoles owners should up and leave their systems and exclusives in favour of PC Master Race?

[BobBelcher]

Devs say that the PS4 is 50% faster...
"yay, we believe it completely."

Dev says that Ryse wouldn't have ran 1080p
on the PS4 either...
"This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, psh."

But that's fine, okay.

[byrnezy]

Why do so many people feed joke, he is the biggest troll I have honestly seen on any internet site, his name really spells it out... jokeisonyou if you reply to his garbage

[yewles1]

Oh dear lord...

IF you CAN'T have full 1080p AND better models and effects while maintaining a smooth framerate, ON A "NEXT-GEN" CONSOLE LAUNCH TITLE MIND YOU, then it is indeed a technological hurdle and a design choice BASED ON SUCH A HURDLE!!! End of story.

[esemce]

The Microsoft demos at e3 really did look next gen and were too good to be true as they were running on high spec PC's.

The Xbone is weak and sadly the PS4 won't be that much better, still I'm getting the PS4 for the exclusives.

Launch title or not sub 1080p native res and 30fps is a bad indication.

[SonyAddict]

Glad that shit ain't coming to ps4!.

[tudors]

BS you talking right there, they downgraded the resolution but upgraded other areas, so it was a design decision, obviously 1080p is not the be all and end all, even Minecraft is memory intensive, so sorry you guys but I will take the word of the guy who knows what he is talking about rather than all the BS my dicks bigger than your dick talk.

[busytoad]

Crytek is doing major damage controll after they first said it would be degraded on xbone, i bet microsoft said we will pay you to reverse what you said and make us look better lol.

[solidboss07]

This may be true, but I honestly do not believe that this lame game cannot run at Full HD on PS4.
We will start to see in the next couple of years.

[Bolts]

The problem here isn't about choice and efficiency. The problem is that at the dawn of a new console generation that is supposed to lead us into the future, we can't even reach the 1080p baseline.

The Xbox One isn't even out yet and the first party dev already maxed out the system. If the nextgen can't even reach 1080p then how do they hope to stay relevant for the next 7 years?

[Jdoki]

If the game looks great and plays great I don't care what resolution it's in.

Saying that... I have zero interest in an ex-Kinect game from a developer who hasn't made a really good game since FarCry.

[linkenski]

Cevat Yerli, please quit the gaming industry because you spewl out more BS than even Molyneux has.

[linkenski]

This CEO won the award "Most annoying gaming celebrity" in the danish Gamereactor last year.

[EasyOneTwoThree]

PS4>Xbox1

[mmj]

Both consoles are paying for having a cheapo junk CPU, Xbone has it doubly bad due to its cheapo junk GPU.

[SDIII]

lol even my die hard 360 friends are getting ps4's, its over MS. Make like the dreamcast and fade away...

[whamlollypop7]

Crytek is like that hot girl we all know, but her personality is just awful.

[pennywhyz]

Cryrek should just make games for PC their to advanced for consoles as far as graphics. Its obvious none of their games run right for consoles. If they did we wouldn't be having this thread.

[gamer7804]

This is a prime example of gamers and media without complete information jumping to conclusion before getting a comment from the developers themselves. This should be a non issue, instead, lets focus on parts of the game that are interesting, i for one want to hear more about the story, the comic was interesting and there is alot they can do with roman history and the brotherhood.

[MasterCornholio]

The only way that Crytek would know this is if they have a build of the game for the PS4. Which I know isn't true which is why I believe that they are saying this to save face in my opinion.

Nexus 7 2013

[cabbitwithscissors]

Let the xbone fans be happy with their 1600x900 games, and let the ps4 fans be happy with their 1920x1080p games. :D

Anyway, what is so sad about the situation today is that people think it's okay to lie and think that they are right. What has the world come to if you're lying about something and not being man enough to admit that it's a lie but add on lie after lie till the whole stack topples over and you're found out to be a straight out liar. Lance Armstrong and all the others like him must be happy about this but at least Lance had the ball to admit it on Oprah.

This one is going nowhere and he's doing damage control for MS but he himself is getting damaged and so is his company, and his self worth.

[Sh0ckWav3]

one question to the sonbots, what makes ya think, no excuse me how do ya know cryteck doesn't have devkits?
last time I knew they where a multiplatform company..

[creepjack]

Lemme get this straight, A 2nd party developer says something good about the XB1 and it's all BS, but when an anonymous developer says something good about the PS4 is all truth.
Ok, got it.

[Reem]

Yep, because it's just him while about the PS3 a lot of developers from a lot of sources are saying this. Got it? Good.

[Game-o-holic]

I live in a 500 square foot basement apartment. I could live in a spacious large 4 bedroom house with land but it's my choice to live here. :)

[PsylentKiller]

This^^ is an excellent analogy. The choice to go 900p was just a choice. The benefits of this choice enhanced the game greatly, according to crytek. Just because we are moving to the next generation of consoles doesn't mean the consoles are high end PC's. There has to be trade offs in one place or another for every game. KZ:SF traded 60fps in single player for better visuals. I'm sure they made other sacrifices but they just haven't told us. Microsoft divulges this info because the XB1 announcement sucked horribly. They need to recover, so they release this info to keep us interested but all it looks like is a chicken running around with its head cut off.

Just under two months until we know for sure. I got the XB1 paid for but if the graphically parity is highly in favor of the PS4 I will be getting that as well sooner than planned.

[DevilishSix]

Well in that case the system is incredibly weak if you are already making concussions and can't hit the 1080p benchmark on a console not even out yet. Whats the point? Accept such a weak console to play games on for 5 years, I say no and MS should have waited a year and got a better console together with better RAM and a better GPU.

MS went the cheap route they even admitted they will be making money from the start and that was with a Kinect packed in. MS has some cheapa** parts in the X1. Whereas, Sony will be taking a loss.

[Reem]

I bet MS pays this guy good money to say such things

[hankmoody]

That seems to be the magic answer for just about anything pro-XB1 around here, huh? Ridiculous.

[Reem]

You sir have absolutely no idea, MS was caught several times bribing reviewers, journalists and even government officials. Here's a sneek peek:

http://www.gamegrep.com/oth...

http://trueslant.com/stephe...

http://techrights.org/2012/...

https://linustechtips.com/m...

[Sh0ckWav3]

just like kz in e305 was running on ps3 hardware ..riiiight, you guys talked about lies ..lol, just look at sonys backlog...and for the pc guy..wtf are you doing in a console convo? if the xbx or ps could be upgraded like a pc then I could under stand ya talking all this smack.. but its all about the games, heck I still play my genesis games, talk about power!! games wise? sega and ninetendo beat sony and ms by 1000% percent power!!

I use to come here for news.. all im seen is trash talk..this site just sucks now..

[Holeran]

The damage control is strong with this one.

[ZeV]

Pure Bullshits !

Crytek sucks like Microsoft ! XBone is less powerfull than PS4...That's all folks ! Damage control is a key word for Crytek and MS.

[S2Killinit]

sure buddy. why even mention PS4? mmmmmmmmm

[DynDasE]

Oh Yeah...

To use statement based on anything that won't happen is a little bit awkward.

What to expect from this shovelware?

[alexkoepp]

Not sure why people are so concerned about resolution right now... you do know the PS4 is only going to do games in 1080p right? So if we start there you aren't going to see any massive gains in graphical prowess for the next 10 years on that console... Who cares if the launch titles aren't at that bar.

At least Microsoft has said there is nothing stopping the X1 from doing games in 4K if they choose... same can't be said for the PS4

[DevilishSix]

It can only support movies in 4k in the future. In no way does the X1 or PS4 come close to the hardware necessary for 4k game resolution.

[1nsomniac]

I have to say after reading the whole conversation on twitter, absolutely nowhere does it claim or even hint at this articles title that the PS4 couldnt run it at 1080p!!

he clearly says it was designed to be at the resolution it is at & not due to any hurdles of any console so would run the same res on any system.

Who made any claim that it couldnt run at 1080p on PS3???

Worst attempt at a flamebait article ive ever seen!

[JohnS1313]

I'm sure they could have made it run at 1080p on the PS4 if they wanted to but even if not it would have been a lot better than on the Xbox 180. The GDDR5 RAM would have done that. They're just trying to look better with this claim. Or maybe they just aren't very good at making games.

[PickAShoe]

No more Ryse I beg of ya

[Hakoom]

if killzone runs at 1080p and deep down runs at 60frame
both of these games makes this game look old..
this guy is full of shit
trying to cover up what he said

[FinalomegaS]

new systems aren't even out and the battle has started...

the mud is going to be flying soon.

I think i'll just wait for some official game reviews and who ever gets at least 3 great ( 5 good) and i'll get that(the 2nd choice will be in december xmas gift to my self).

polygon here, FPS there, shit over here, BS there... God i just want to play something new...

[ThatEnglishDude]

So now you'll be able to see how shit this game is....in 1080p!

[JuniorCE]

You know what is pathetic from Microsoft, now they can't achieve full HD, so they look for excuses...

[badkolo]

so far the only thing that is pathetic is your responces

[JuniorCE]

Oh no fanboy attack... You are so silly...

[blackmanone]

Are you trying to be ironic with the spelling and grammar mistakes?

[Dynasty2021]

What a load of paid-off-by-MS bullshit.

[Jamaicangmr]

Come on Crytek accept your shortcomings and learn from them.

[Tzuno]

Hahahahhahhhhhhh!!!

[TrollCraftTales]

@Georgeenoob
Ryse is the best looking title? Well Killzone Shadowfall and Infamous Second Son say hi...
@Badkolo
You think Knack is the only title the PS4 has? Killzone Shadow Fall, DriveClub, Planetside 2, Blacklight Retribution, DC Universe Online, Infamous Second Son, The Order 1886, and Deep Down just to name a few, not to mention all the FULLY EXCLUSIVE DLC PS4 gets for games like AC4, Watch_Dogs, Destiny etc. Not timed exclusive like COD DLC, but FULLY EXCLUSIVE...

[thexmanone]

Wow PS4 Bots are on damaged control. All you here is them bashing the Xbox one. We get it you are scared to lose. The Ps4 is not some sort of super computer. How about you enjoy your games and we will enjoy ours. You always have a choice.

[larrym]

Way too many Sony dick suckers on this site. I didn't know we had that many Game Devs on this site. It reminds me of when John Carmack said something about the PS3 these indoctrinated fools didn't like, and all of a sudden, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

You know, John Carmack from iD Software? The man lives, breathes and shits game coding, and we have a bunch of morons trying to convince themselves and others that he's incompetent. But that's the norm on this website, any pro Sony news is good, and any pro Microsoft news is bullshit.

[cunnilumpkin]

people keep bringing up killzone sf
why??

killzone sf looks current gen to me

ryse at least has a somewhat next gen feel to it