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Shuhei Yoshida Explains the PS4′s “Epic Fail” at Tokyo Game Show and Crash at E3

A few days ago a PS4 failed to respond to the controller and to the PlayStation App on a Japanese live TV broadcast (event that Yoshida himself defines an "epic fail") from Tokyo Game Show. On the other hand, at E3, the console crashed during the reveal of Assassin’s Creed 4 at the press conference.

Today he explained both events.

GribbleGrunger3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

More or less what I said when the Dualshockers article was put up. Of course the always honest and sincere Yoshida will be 'just talking PR' here. :)

Abriael3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

I said the same myself in the article, good to see that we were right :D

Not that I expected not to be :P

The worst offenders with interference are actually Wiimotes. Every single time I go to a Nintendo press event I find one every 3-4 wiimotes failing.

Edit: lol thanks :D

GribbleGrunger3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Well I knew about the AC problem because I read an interview with the devs on that very issue, and whilst I didn't discount that there 'could' have been a hardware problem at TGS, I was more inclined to believe it was either a pairing problem or an interference problem.

I've got to say, Abriael, I've been reading your posts just recently and you seem a fair minded person. Just wanted to say that ...

[Waiting for the 'get a room' comments]

pyramidshead3857d ago

@gribble
get a room man....
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....but only if I'm invited...

GribbleGrunger3857d ago

How old are you? I'm only interested in mature men, sweety ...

Eonjay3857d ago

"...and none of the two issues are likely to happen when it’ll be installed in your living room (unless your living room is in the middle of a show floor with hundreds of other consoles and thousands people typing madly on their cellphones around it..."

Oh no! Thats where I live!

MWong3856d ago

@Eonjay
I might be in trouble then.

Even though they didn't have to, I am still glad they did. Sony has pretty much explained their console, fails and successes from reveal. Leading the way are Shuhei and Cerny, honestly I don't remember any system being explained so well. I think if M$ had a Shuhei/Cerny of their own they wouldn't be looking so bad this next-gen.

4Sh0w3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

"@ that was a game and the system still in development, not throughly tested"

OK but if this was microsoft all you same ones would be screaming "OMG Xbone isnt ready yet", or "just stop talking and fix it", "enough excuses show us". Hypocrites are so patient and very understanding when sony says anything.

Mark my words ps4 will have more post launch problems tham X1 because micro has been alot more open to scrutiny and then addressing issues while sony is getting a free pass. I woneer then if the same ones will continue to be so forgiving then, yeah probably on n4g but normal gamers won't.

MWong3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

@4Sh0w
M$ hasn't been more open to scrutiny, M$ had to pull their collective asses out of the fire. Which is a place that they put themselves. The difference is when or where Sony has been scrutinized they have addressed each issue. There vision has not changed, they haven't made choices that made the public say WTH.

Also I don't really get your logic, if there is a plausible explanation you don't think "normal gamers" are smart enough to believe it?

D1LLW3ED3856d ago

@4Sh0w very well said my friend.

andibandit3856d ago

well well well, isnt that sweet...Sony fails, resulting in 2 gay men finding love

ms fails and its nuclear war....only on n4g gents, only on n4g

MasterChief36243856d ago

I always hate it when people feel the need to announce that they "did it" already. Quick way to get me to hate you for a moment? "Called it!"

Yeah. Hate that, too. So stupid. Why even say it? For a false sense of superiority? Ugh.

BlackTar1873856d ago

Do you xbox only fans really not know any history on MS as a company as a whole? I mean really were you all born pre MS takeover?

Seriously educate yourself on this company and its behind the scenes underhanded bad business practices. Michael moore would have to make a double sided DVD to cover it all.

UltimateMaster3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

A company admits a fail when there is one.
You don't see that everyday.

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cleft53857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

He was actually upfront about the failure and stated the actual reasons and calling it a failure on their part. No excuses, no bs, just a honest response. Loving how Sony is operating right now.

CRAIG6673857d ago

If it was Microsoft it would be WW3...

I couldn't care less, as long as it works fine in my home were good.

As I say though, if it were a Microsoft mistake this thread would be HEAVING with Sony fanboys predicting the end of modern civilisation at the hands of M$

jessupj3857d ago

Exactly. Well said.

I love how Sony excecs are so down to earth and get to the point while being honest and up front.

Larry and penello could learn a lot, and I mean A LOT from the sony guys.

It's amazing how any idiots can defend MS and their utter douchery.

Gazondaily3857d ago

How else were they supposed to respond though.

"that was a game and the system still in development, not thoroughly tested"- Shuhei Yoshida

I can imagine others spinning this along the lines of "omg, it still hasn't been thoroughly tested yet" if this happened to the X1.

Also, blaming "wireless interference on the show floor" isn't really calling it a failure on their part. This isn't something to go shout praises about.

Also, this isn't an 'epic fail' by any means. This stuff happens and the Playroom has been quite stable for the most part.

ChrisW3856d ago

Epic Failure isn't so bad when you're a fan...

lawgone3856d ago

This post is the perfect illustration of the head-scratching, wtf-logic of fanboys. Sony's system crashes twice and its fanboys praise Sony for their honesty in a couple tiny, low detail tweets. MS uses a conference to explain their vision of going to a steam like model and they get bashed for being evil. So, they listen to the criticism and releas a detailed statement that they are going back to the old model. They get bashed for being evil. God I'd love to meet a Sony fanboy IRL.

srd44843856d ago

well saying "wireless interference" is better than saying "system failed".
Fanboys so quick to believe anything Sony puts out there.

Sarick3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

I don't know how to convey this without sounding one sided.

What else could they say? If they started making excuses and promoted arrogance that wouldn't have been taken well on any front. If they started saying "Please forgive us" that would've been seen as a weakness. By ignoring it would also be looked down on.

Murphy's law has no predisposition towards reasonable logic or any amount of advance contrivance.

Bottem line: I see it for what it is. A response that says "We screwed up." I don't see it as a way to save face or show arrogance. I honestly see no need to glorify or condemn his response. There was really no other professional way to admit fault without ignoring it completely.

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miyamoto3857d ago

Yup. Shu has all the confidence to be honest...its a PS4 we are talking about here.

joefrost003857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Let this hqve been MS and the world would have ended on this site lol
But I forgot sony never lies about anything
Even though the editior from ign just a few weeks ago tweeted that sony has yet to show an actual functioning ps4
I know im going to get disagrees but before I do
What would you disagree with
Everything I said is fact

@johndoe11211
Look it up only the third party games where running on pc dev kits
All of the first party games with the exception of lococycle where running on xbox hardware
Go check eurogamer I think that was the site
Sony fans:
Ignorance is bliss

johndoe112113857d ago

you know what? Even if those games weren't running on ps4's, which i'm not even sure you're right about that, most of them were at least running on dev kits. Unlike microsoft who's games have been running on high end nvidia PC's. Please feel free to reply with microsoft PR damage control BS.

Death3856d ago

Those high end PC's running Nvidia cards are early dev kits. They run software that emulates the consoles hardware. This is very common.

LordMaim3856d ago

You mean the guy who since retracted the statement, saying they were PS4 devkits and lost all credibility?

Xsilver3856d ago

So i see xbox fans crying in the comment section stating if this was MS bla bla bla, well here's the thing Sony is way more trustworthy than MS think im lying do some research.
there's a reason everyone has their doubts about what MS says they have been lying constantly are you blind but yet you come on a Sony article crying with your BS, quick question what has Sony done to anger you so far please let me know.

Silly gameAr3856d ago

Yeah the whole "if this were MS" thing is getting real old real quick.

Xsilver3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

ikr its all i keep hearing.

BallsEye3856d ago

Both companies lie and you should know better if you are a fan of sony. From the very first crap about ps2 emotion engine to presentation of ps3 with their killzone2 fake demo saying it's all possible thanks to THE CELL to recently donwngraded graphics of ps3 games after release (TLOU,great game tho) and now some ps4 games being donwgraded bit by bit (deep down as an example...watchdogs is rather fualt of ubisoft). You gotta stop being a blind one yourself. Both companies lie, both companies do PR talk, both companies want your money, stop thinking sony is a knight in shiny armor, it is not.

Xsilver3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

@Ballseye i give credit where credit is due i don't just blindly follow Sony they felt my anger when they messed up at the start of the pS3 gen thats why i owned 360 before i owned a ps3, but to me what Ms has tried to do this gen is unacceptable i don't care if they changed it they still have to prove that gamers come first and they haven't done that yet so for now I follow Sony because they didn't try to take ownership of your games and say deal with it. i know both companies lie but microsoft is making a habit of it to get my support. annnnnnnd Sony has created some amazing exclusives and devs for me not to own a PS4.

AngelicIceDiamond3856d ago

@Silver wanna know why?

Because sensibility and logic suddenly kicks in when something negative happens to PS4. This isn't even anything truly bad since its still in the works, mistakes happen.

90% of comments here from Sony fans are MS lies. Lies about what I'm still yet to see links or facts or anything.

900p native 1080P? Is that it? Because if so than that's just a pathetic lame attempt to hold MS accountable for "lying". In the real world a gamer won't notice 900p from 1080p especially if its scales to 1080p.

Any other "lies" MS made let me know, I would really like to know myself.

Anyway, what happened to Sony is no big deal, like at all. Accidents happen and its still in development.

5eriously3856d ago

must b e8 Year old American babies, so what do we expect. Most real grown up gamers can not be that stupid. All I hear is crying about the eXBone'd everyday as if SONY is responsible for the M$ PR mess.

We have to be patient, there are so little coming from the M$ camp the kiddies have to came play troll in the PS4 related articles. Maybe one day they will grow up and all this would change. Just as long as they do not breed.

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BallsEye3856d ago

I dont trust MS as console manufacturer ! Look their console gets stuck on e3, now the controller doesn't work! I'm 100% sure the console was rushed and not ready for 2013...oh wait.. it's sony.. NEVERMIND! We love you Sony/Yoshida! /s

MasterCornholio3856d ago

You just hate him for trolling Microsoft.

Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

BlackTar1873856d ago

You Xbox fanboys and this victim crap is so tired and sad. STOP have some damn self respect. OLD AND TIRED.

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hulk_bash19873857d ago

Glitches are all commonplace when it comes to Conference presentations. Move along everyone.

Sarick3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

This is true look at this video. Notice how the audience laughed about it. I'm sure that wasn't the intent of Sony.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That video is proof of Murphy's Law. Sometimes the best recourse is just to laugh and as Hulk_bash1987 and the presenter in this video said "move along." <grin> Please don't forget to have a sense of humor.

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cell9893857d ago

Lol he actually said "epic fail" only him, good sport

drsfinest723857d ago

So they get a slide. What if it was ms?

Izzy4083857d ago

On this site? Not a chance.

Studio-YaMi3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

You can always be a citizen of oxmonline.com,if you always want to hear good stuff about MS,just a suggestion ?

drsfinest723857d ago

Lol then in that case. I can't wait for November to get my Xbox one day one !

Studio-YaMi3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

lol I wonder how many Xbox fanboys trolling accounts(maybe even from the same person) are giving me thumbs down. :)

Fanboys are really pathetic.

joefrost003857d ago

Its not about hearing good stuff about MS
Its about exposing the bias and hypocrisy that has flooded this site by sony fanboys
This is only a general gaming site but the sony fanboys has made this site with a couple others the joke of the internet
But you fanboys are entertaining lol
I will give you that

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Studio-YaMi3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

He had the guts to call it an "EPIC FAIL",when was the last time that Microsoft spoke OPENLY about anything regarding their company or their Xbox brand ? not to mention how many bad decisions they made about the XboxOne and not even admitting it ?

yeah,thought so ! :)

@Izzy408
I dare you to show the paragraph where he said "I'm sorry" or "I apologize",or do you go by the "title" of a news article ?

guess who's ignorant now ?
MS as a company does not show remorse or apologized for their mistake,whether it's their whole company or the Xbox branch.

Don't like the truth ? you don't need to hear it,as I told you before,there is always oxmonline.com ! :)

Izzy4083857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Here you go. http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

see what I mean about the fanboys on this site. Ignorance is bliss.

rainslacker3857d ago

Izzy,

That article is the author apologizing on MS behalf. MS made no mention of being sorry or asking for forgiveness for their apparent mistakes. It's all conjecture based on press releases and statements made by MS with the author making his own assumptions that it is MS way of apologizing, when in reality everything he uses as evidence is just PR spin to deflect the issue. In fact, to date, MS has shown no sign that they even understand why people were upset.

I personally don't feel that MS has to apologize, we aren't required to buy their product, and they did what they felt was good, even if not well thought out.

tarbis3857d ago

Izzy
I suggest you read your own article and not just the headline. Thanks.

joefrost003857d ago

I have read atleast a dozen articles with penello, and other execs apologizing since the reveal
Hell its even one up now about him apologizing for not being able to show the UI publicly yet
See this is my problem with you sony fanboys
Its one thing to prefer a certain console thats cool
Im getting both my self
But when you go out you way to bash or criticize another console and then dont even tell facts doing it
Just lies and rhetoric
Thats just sad

johndoe112113857d ago

@rainslacker

Do you know why microsoft has not apologized or has not shown any remorse? Because, as was stated by one of their execs at gamescom, they still whole heartedly believe in their DRM BS and will be reintroducing it one day once they can get people comfortable with the idea. As far as the are concerned they did nothing wrong, we are the ones with the issue. It's like a husband who beats his wife and justifies it by saying she deserves it.

Death3856d ago

Why would Microsoft apologize for their initial proposed features? They were not adding DRM for the sake of adding DRM. They were allowing gamers to rip their games to the consoles HDD so they could access them anytime and anywhere without having the disc in the drive for verification. The DRM everyone focuses on was to verify gamers libraries were intact and not traded or sold. I will absolutely opt in for this if it is ever reinstated.

As for going to OXMonline to hear "good news" for the Xbox One, how is that not an ignorant statement? N4G is News for Gamers. Sony has their official forums too. If you want to wave your pom poms like a 3 year old on a sugar high, maybe you should go there. Here's the link:
http://community.us.playsta...

Chaotic_Lament3856d ago

Has MS ever apologized? Right here:

http://n4g.com/news/1360672...

Front page of n4g and submitted 8 hours prior to this story. Stop trolling. It's pathetic.

srd44843856d ago

MS policies from the start were fine with me. I wanted to go this new route. Why should they apologize? Their mistake was listening to the sony fanboys whining since they had nothing like it. Poor babies wanted to share a physical copies with their friend. Stop being cheap and ripping off the developers.
Sony should be apologizing for all those broken promises.

joeorc3856d ago (Edited 3856d ago )

@joefrost00

"See this is my problem with you sony fanboys
Its one thing to prefer a certain console thats cool
Im getting both my self
But when you go out you way to bash or criticize another console and then dont even tell facts doing it
Just lies and rhetoric
Thats just sad"

http://n4g.com/news/1089678...

be very careful what you write, it may end up biting you in the rear end, people in a glass house would best be ready to not throw stones.

@MRMagoo123

"This site has at least the same amount of xbone fantards as PS4 ones, so trying to pretend this is some sony site is complete BS, xbone fannies always trying to act the victim lol.

People will respect MS more when they tell the truth for a change , but so far all they do is tell lies or PR BS and get caught doing it."

100% they really have no room to really be upset, the way Nintendo and Sony have got hate over not just one year, but try more than 5+ year's and yet Microsoft gets some lambasting right now not really even for 6 months yet they call this hate?

really?

they do not even know what Hate is, try 5+ year's worth, or how about a web site with over

2,834,976 people are tired of Sony's bull$hit.

hxxp://www.thebestpageintheun iverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullsh i t

show me a single site with a level of bashing number's with over 2 freaking million for Microsoft, let alone Nintendo. but yet Sony's fans are the worst? ok what ever people.

@VaizardNL

"If you can't admit that fans of Sony are more verbal in a negative sense about their competition than people that like MS and their products on this website you are seriously just fooling yourself mate. More often than not people have more negative votes when they say something positive about the Xbox One. It's just what this website is like and there is nothing to do about it, nor do I care, but don't talk like it isn't true."

Oh please, where was this freaking outcry when those very same Fans of more than one other console fan group kept taking shots at Sony and the fans on this site for over not one year, but 5 freaking years straight? humm where was the outcry then...it only matter's when its against Sony or its fans because they deserve it right? because they are arrogant?

give me a freaking break. the fans of any console no matter what group are just as bad as nay one other group no more no less. its not one sided bull crap. the 5+ years worth straight bashing is proof + of that. Now all of a sudden its too much?

right?

Death3856d ago

5 Years straight?

2006, 2007, maybe 2008. During the 360's launch Sony was on a smear campaign discrediting the system every chance they got to try and persuade people not to buy it. The launch a year later was horrible with high prices and a severe lack of games to justify the wait and price. 2008 seen a pretty big turn around with a lower price and much better software. I'll give you 2 years of grief, but much of it was their own making.

Microsoft is getting hate for policies that were proposed on an unreleased system. They removed those policies months before launch to make the wrong people happy. These same people are still bitching and the system still is not out. If these people are hating to simply get back, not only is it unwarranted, it's childish.

If you are a diehard Sony fan, what is there to be upset about 7 years later to act this way? I admit revenge is a dish best served cold, but this is absurd. I'd have thought most got this out of their systems with the whole RROD fiasco. When is enough, enough?

5eriously3856d ago

@JoeWhatever

You are a real Sad Sack. I am sure you are to young to know Sad Sack go do research on him.

Stop your crying FFS and grow some.

another lying Bozo M$ eXBone'd fannyboy "claiming" that are getting both consoles. Seems like a M$ virus are doing the rounds, LOL. If and only if you were even for real you would post different more balanced comments. Most people owning both consoles would not be such a biased c@nt and vomit so much BS. They would know what the reality is and post sense.

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madpuppy3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

oops, wrong thread...

madpuppy3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

"So they get a slide. What if it was ms?"

who?

:p

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Angeljuice3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

@drsfinest72
If it were ms, they would deny all knowledge of the event, nobody would answer the question and Major Nelson would announce that Japanese electricity isn't of high enough quality to run the Xbone properly (or some other random BS).

Sephiroushin3856d ago

@joefrost00

Love how some people use the word "fanboy" as an attack when, by their definition of fanboys they are fanboys themselves but just from a different company!

awesomeperson3856d ago

Gosh, so many people have a persecution complex on this site.

I don't understand why the issue was blown out of proportion enough to warrant this article. Both Sony and Microsoft made their fair share of hardware faults at the conferences this year, and no, neither have really being called out about it.

Anyone with an inch of maturity would be able to understand that the system software for both consoles still in development, especially was the case at E3.

So unless Sony try and introduce mandatory DRM or an always-on console, and we immediately forgive or advocate their case, do not try to complain about Sony getting "slide[s]" for relatively minor events.

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Obscure_Observer352d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole352d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90352d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit352d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils352d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie352d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic351d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj351d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde351d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor351d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138351d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_351d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881349d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit352d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992352d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64352d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992352d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot352d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992351d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64352d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot352d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic351d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades351d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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