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Deep Down and the Message it Brings to the Industry

Hardcore Gamer: Love it or hate it, the F2P model is taking root. This is not to say that the sky is falling. Games as we know them are not doomed, but the landscape is certainly shifting and many industry eyes will be studying Deep Down and just how well it does.

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SmokingMonkey3857d ago

The message:

Microtransaction's/DLC

MasterCornholio3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

Well it is capcom. At least they wont be locking content to a disk with this title since its digital.

BTW Hows the Monarch doing with Dr. Girlfriend?

SmokingMonkey3857d ago

The Monarch, Dr. MRs. The Monarch, and Gary are moving into the house the Monarch grew up in, because Uncle Vatred blew up the Monarch's mansion with his hover tank.

Also, Vendatta is probably the monarch's father who was made into a robocop/mandroid by Jonas Venture Sr.

Breaking Bad level stuff here.

GrizzliS19873857d ago

this article is now about Breaking Bad.

MasterCornholio3857d ago

You never thought that i would be free to play now did you?

Thats the message that it sent me.

UnHoly_One3857d ago

I hate EVERYTHING about F2P.

This sucks. Crap cell phone games are ruining my hobby.

colonel1793857d ago

Pray that this game fails so bad so that companies get scared of this model in consoles.

The problem with games like these succeeding is that, just like COD, every single company will want to copy it. Look at Killer Instinct, selling you each character at $5 each! that is a rip off!. I don't want a world where in order to just play you have to pay for every single thing in the game (weapons, characters, maps, levels, items, outfits) *shivers*

UnHoly_One3857d ago

KI doesn't bother me because you can pay one flat rate and buy the "whole" game, so to speak.

Thereby eliminating the whole problem I have with the F2P model.

Fireseed3857d ago

Yeah how exactly is being able to buy the full game F2P?

3xkrazy3857d ago

@UnHoly

You'd be silly to think you can pay a flat rate to buy the whole game. That's not how F2P works. It's more like a service package with a set of features. Think of it like Comcast Xfinity: Internet, Digital TV, or for bundle both for X dollars.

DigitalRaptor3857d ago (Edited 3857d ago )

We're seeing the usual suspects praising one thing whilst calling out another for the exact same thing. Here are some facts for you.

Deep Down is free-to-play - you don't have to pay, but they will charge you for additional content if you want it.

Killer Instinct - you buy the whole lot for $40. That's 8 characters. Eight! That's nowhere near the standard of a fighting game being complete. Nowhere near. So what are they going to do after you've paid $40 for 8 characters? They'll charge you for more characters and other content. By their current rate, that's $5 per character. They've already confirmed a second "season".

So no, this is no different to Deep Down. But because Deep Down and many, many other great F2P games are on PS4, and not on XB1, of course it's a bad thing. Of course it is.

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FamilyGuy3857d ago

The complaint makes no sense, you never have to buy anything, if you want the game to be more enjoyable you pay, and you pick and choose the things you think are worth paying for. There's always some bundle price package making F2P games close to a regular retail purchase. You just said you don't have a problem with Killer Instinct because it has such a bundle yet for Deep Down you're instantly assuming there won't be one?

What kind of sense does that make?

No details on how they'll be going about this games F2P model has been released yet so why are people already bashing it?
At this point all it is is a free game till pricing details surface.

SignifiedSix913857d ago

Well, this game is going to suck lol.

ABeastNamedTariq3857d ago

I'll still be playing it. I'm actually looking forward to it, as long as the model isn't too ridiculous. With high-quality, non-ripoff games such as PS2 and DCUO, I'll be optimistic. (But then again, it is Capcom after all...)

Just because it's F2P doesn't automatically mean it's going to suck. If that were the case, KI would be getting a lot of hate and pessimism.

yellowgerbil3857d ago

you are living under a rock if you don't think KI is getting hate and pessimism.
being f2p is only 1 minor reason, the main reason is the developers track record.
It isn't being made by rare, the people who are making have such amazing games in their resume as
Green Later: rise of the manhunters
and GIJOE: the Rise of Cobra
I hope they make a good game though, I'll never play it as I'm getting ps4, but they are also making the new Strider which is a game I want, and they better not screw up.

UnHoly_One3857d ago

The difference with KI is that you also have the option to buy the whole game and get everything.

So they are giving us both options.

I will buy the whole package and never have to deal with the F2P crap.

DigitalRaptor3857d ago

Deep Down is free-to-play - you don't have to pay, but they will charge you for additional content if you want it.

Killer Instinct - you buy the whole lot for $40. That's 8 characters. Eight! That's nowhere near the standard of a fighting game being complete. Nowhere near. So what are they going to do after you've paid $40 for 8 characters? They'll charge you for more characters and other content. By their current rate, that's $5 per character. They've already confirmed a second "season".

So no, this is no different to Deep Down.

UnHoly_One3856d ago

I'm pretty sure it's 20, not 40.

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Layden Has 'No Idea' What Happened to Capcom Deep Down Game

Former Sony executive Shawn Layden has "no idea" what happened to Capcom Deep Down game, which disappeared after announcement.

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SullysCigar954d ago

I thought this looked fun. I hope they do something with it eventually.

Rangerman1208954d ago

From what I have read, they wanted to delay the game to make the graphics "realistic". Imo, the game already looked good as it is. My guess is that perhaps they shifted their focus for a ps5 release but only time will tell.

Michiel1989953d ago

considering it looked basically better than any other game in that trailer, they were probably too ambitious. They also wanted to have endless dungeons, have several historic periods that they wanted to realize, infinite randomly generated loot. its not being made for ps5, it went in the dumpster, no way capcom would let them work on it from then on until now. it was like 9 years ago or something that trailer came out?

Ashunderfire86953d ago

I remember seeing demo footage of this game on the PS4! It already look like one of the best looking games on the PS4, like a prenext gen game before PS5.

Shinox953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

This was never meant to be a game and it was more like a showcase for their engine "Panta Rhei" that they never used in any game ( which probably named RE Engine now ) , yes this project was meant to be a low budget free to play game for the PS4 and planned to release in Japan but all of that was canceled in a matter of few months , this whole project has been silently canceled long long time ago and people does not know Capcom well when it comes to sideswiping projects

Giraiga13952d ago

@Shinox if what you said is true then that's a big shame really. I was really looking forward for the game, and it had some cool ideas and mechanics that caught my attention (though making it a F2P title was somewhat worrisome).

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darthv72954d ago

I always thought it was because of this games questionable development that they were able to do the deal for SFV in its place.

SyntheticForm953d ago

As far as I'm aware not a single game was developed with the Panta Rhei engine. Some aspects of the engine may have been folded into Capcom's current engines, but who knows, really?

I thought it looked really good at the time it was shown.

Giraiga13953d ago

Agreed. The game had a lot of promise, jankiness aside. Plus, I sorta loved the survival horror aspects of the game in certain areas.

ManInRed954d ago

Still sucks we haven't heard much from it. Really liked the concept behind it, and I feel like I was one of the very few who liked the game's music. A shame it's in hiatus as of now.

Sciurus_vulgaris954d ago

I think Platinum has been overextending itself for a good while now. Scalebound was canceled after missing deadlines and Bayonetta 3 has shown nothing since its announcement in 2017.

Sciurus_vulgaris953d ago

Posted my comment on the wrong article..,

Rangerman1208953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

Like Darkborn said, you still have a good point, even if it's not related to this newspiece.

Sciurus_vulgaris953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

@Darkborn and Rangerman1208

I think Deepdown's disappearance is simply due to Capcom focusing resources on their already established IPs ( Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and too a lesser extent Devil May Cry). Despite the vaporware nature of Deepdown, Capcom has been doing quit well for the past 4 years or so.

TheExecutioner954d ago

even capcom doesnt know .. no one knows what happened

Rangerman1208953d ago

Honestly, I want to believe the game will happen but after what happened with Wild, who's to say Capcom won't consider on pulling the plug on the game?

A shame cause the game looked very interesting.

Barneyco952d ago

Excuse my ignorance but was Wild cancelled or delayed? I didn't hear news about that.

Barneyco952d ago

I looked Wild up. I had no idea it was cancelled last year. I was looking forward to it.

spicelicka953d ago

It's quite deep down this game

hulk_bash1987953d ago

Deep down seemed like Vaporware from the start. There was never anything shown beyond the initial reveal trailer.

Yppupdam953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

There is always games like this that look cool and excites everybody...and then it disappears. Look at "8 days", everything about that game looked as cool as hell, The Story, Ving Rhames as one of the characters and pretty cool game mechanics (of what video leaked out of them) That game still stings to me, I really wanted to play it.

Giraiga13952d ago

Same thing with The Getaway for the PS3. I always wanted to try out English GTA from Sony, but it sadly never came to be.

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DVAcme953d ago

While the game never came out, I don't think it was time wasted. If you look well at how the camera follows the character and how it moves around during "gameplay", you'll notice it's spot-on identical to the camera in Resident Evil 2 Remake. Deep Down might have been cancelled, but it most likely became a proof of concept for Capcom in development of the REngine.

Magic_Spatula953d ago

I always thought it was a tech demo never intended to become an actual game. Pretty sure it's just them showing off what would eventually become their proprietary engine Reach For The Moon Engine or "RE Engine" as most people call it.

gleepot953d ago

capcom calls it the RE Engine, because thats what its called

Giraiga13952d ago

To quote from the other guy, it's definitely likely that Phanta Rei probably transformed into the RE engine. Still, it sucks the game might not see the light of day, especially considering how ambitious Capcom was with it.

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Capcom Renews Deep Down Trademark

Don’t count this game out just yet. Are we going to see Deep Down release on PS5?

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_SilverHawk_1389d ago

Hopefully its still in development and will be released on ps5 because deep down trailer looked amazing when showed years ago

Sonic-and-Crash1389d ago

i hope this to transform to " Dragon s Dogma 2 Deep Down" ....would be smart move and excellent to revisit DDogma elaborate world

Lore1389d ago

I’m hoping for both

camel_toad1389d ago

Capcom is really sitting on Dragon's Dogma and I don't get why. It was an out of nowhere fantastic game.

They need to come out with the sequel already.

Hakuoro1389d ago

That's actually what I always thought, that it was just a code name for a Dragon's Dogma game.

bouzebbal1389d ago (Edited 1389d ago )

heard good things about DD.
didnt have a chance to try it, so i hope the series gets some love cause i think it was successful.

Michiel19891389d ago

@sonic I rather hope for a Monster Hunter deep down, that could be amazing

Army_of_Darkness1389d ago

It's probably gonna be a ps5 game now.

nitus101388d ago

I will agree Dragon's Dogma is an excellent game and having the ability to climb on huge enemies is fairly unique, however, I really hope that Capcom (if they make DD2) reduces those "escort missions" or at least makes them much more interesting. Of course, if I hear "Harpy!" one more time I am going to scream.🤪

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ActualWhiteMan1389d ago

Deep down, it’s just vapor ware..

NVMGaiden1389d ago

Absolutely, I'm more interested in games that exist like Pragmata and Resident Evil 8.

Yui_Suzumiya1389d ago

Those are two games I'm most excited for as well

NovusTerminus1389d ago

Renewing a trademark is a sign of life because they cannot just indefinitely renew it, they only get so many renewals before it is rejected and open to the market again.

Relientk771389d ago

Good, hopefully we see Deep Down on PS5.

Kavorklestein1389d ago

I kind of have a feeling that Deep Down was put off until new hardware because the Quality of what we saw in the trailer looked like it was causing major frame issues and stutters on the PS4 the time.

The PS5 may finally be able to handle the visual goal of what they were going for.

drizzom1389d ago

Actually would like to see it on PC too.

isarai1389d ago

Hopefully it maintains the technology (like their fluid/particle simulations) and 4 player co-op

lildudexst1389d ago

Oh now they wanna work on it again

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10 Missing Games We’d Love to Hear from in 2020

Here are 10 major video games that are missing in action from the public eye, and we hope to see them make a triumphant return in 2020.

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