M-M3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Deep Down a F2P game? Megaton.

PLASTICA-MAN3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Here is a proof from Capcom themselves (saw it live and I was mindblown)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

F2P meaning you don't need PS PLUS to play it. I thought forcing PS Plus to play online was cruel , but after seeing how many F2P games we will get ( and JUST DEEP DOWN) is quite a big relief.

Even people who will just buy the PS4 WITHOUT A SINGLE GAME will never be bored. Just buy the PS4, you have no excuse (even if you live in a hole and you don't have a way to get PSN PLUS). Let us enjoy gaming on PS4.

maniacmayhem3863d ago

Even though it is F2P I wonder where the monetization will come in?

Will there be a level cap? Will certain dungeons only be accessible through payments?

I'm sure gear, loot, skins, armor and the rest will be paid.

I really don't like the freemium model and would have rather had a full retail game.

FamilyGuy3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

This is what I've been saying for months. I'm buying my PS4 with no games at the start and checking out all the free stuff first. There's a lot of options between the F2P games and the PS+ games and my current subscription doesn't expire till March. ^_^

I'll probably still end up buying stuff soon after but nothing beyond the system on day 1.

sonarus3863d ago

I love this new free to play system sony has got going. I hope microsoft intends to adopt some of these policies as well

PoSTedUP3863d ago

da fuq does that title say!?

strifeblade3863d ago

How dissapointing. Its f2p and people here are jumping up and down for joy. This was never a game- it was a tech demo to demonstrate phanta rei engine. This f2p bull was an after thought.

It looks like the budget for this game is going to be pathetic. Random generated dungeons and enemies? Nothing but greys and ladders and never more than a couple enemies on screen and boring environment? overly simplistic combat system?

This has low budget all over it, its offending that peole compare this to ryse or deadrising (games that actually have a budget and legitmate effort put into it). I am really not trying to bash, but this is the final nail in the coffin, this gane is catering towards the japanese taste in an attempt to monetize it through f2p model and sometimes games like these catch on fast providing that this game seems to be more about loot than anything else.

I speak for most gamers out there and i will say most hardcore gamers were hoping for a full budget 60$ title with all the works and what we got random generated dungeons which result in uninspired environments, simplistic combat, boring and dull (although boss fights seem interesting but thats it.)

PoSTedUP3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

looting is good, like in all other rpg's.
and we already saw the graphics and very little game play, f2p doesnt change any of that. it still looks phenomenal with still a lot more we dont even know about the game.
and yes we know the dragons are going to be epic
im curious to see how many different types, of different types of enemys are going to be generated. a good initial variety could give the game longevity.
magic, different weapons, fireballs, count me in.
this Is next gen still a lot more to know about the characters stats, upgrades, weapons, magic, the features of co-op, what the levels are gonna be like etc.
im hoping the generated levels keep some good textures.
they said somenthing about the liquid, im interested in how thats gonna play a factor.

ShwankyShpanky3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

@strife: I think you're being a bit melodramatic. The game's not even in beta yet, and you're acting like you've seen everything there is to see. Let's maybe wait for some more media to be released before determining it to be "nothing but greys and ladders and never more than a couple enemies on screen and boring environment," or that it has an "overly simplistic combat system." I see nothing inherently wrong with procedurally generated environments & enemies. Isn't Diablo procedurally generated?

badz1493863d ago

I don't understand the bitterness in many comments here? What's there for you to lose? The game gone F2P not subscription-base. Why is the perception that F2P games are bad? League of Legends, Planetside 2, World of Tanks etc....there are many examples of very good F2P out there.

Now that it's a confirmed F2P, everybody will have the chance to play it without paying. If it turns out to be good, GREAT. if not, it's their lost not the gamers. Even Sony guys themselves are assisting in the development so it might be something special. The hate is unwarranted for this, seriously.

strifeblade3863d ago

I don't understand why people purchasing the PS4 is not expressing dissapointment at the direction this game is taking.All i am seeing is praise.

I am sure the content people will pay for will probably be loot, items, maybe they make you pay for some of those dragon boss fights as they are the main attraction of the game. They will probably make the game impossible to successfully play without purchasing some loot (otherwise it is not profitable). But do you think they will give you a whole package with all the loot? Probably not- they are nickel and diming you in this f2p. In contrast killer instrict gives you everything for 20$ (Save for a few costumes). Although KI does not feel like an f2p besides the 1 free character lol.

F2P is successful but only on pc, where these games can reach a huge user base and become a lively community (normally due to the minimum requirements of the said game). This game's f2p is not based on a community- it;s 2 player co op. So the success of f2p cannot really apply in this case. It sounds more like a free game forcing you to buy loot and content, in a 2 player co op experience with random generated dungeons.

People draw comparisions to diablo as it does have randomly generated dungeons, but diabo is also a full retail game. I am certain the content in diablo cannot be matched by an f2p. In diablo you do not buy loot- you hunt it. Diablo is 4 player co-op, playing it any otherway would suck as all my friends play it 4 player co-op. Diablo has a story and voice acting. Diablo has different classes (huge replayabilty). In comparison deep down looks bare bones. Diablo has simple combat because of its camera being a far 3rd person perspective (traditional hack and slash). deep down adopts a camera angle being right behind a character, and in this case the combat cannot be like diablo simple and repetitive, it would get tired quick.

5h4h4b3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

@strifeblade

"I don't understand why people purchasing the PS4 is not expressing
dissapointment at the direction this game is taking.All i am seeing is praise."

Yes. We are excited about this game and graphics and particle effects are praiseworthy. What's your problem?
Don't act like f2p games are garbage. PS2, League of legends are good games. You xboys have some serious problem. You hype your games (ryse, dr3) above the sky, but when we praise our games you people just can't stand it. Just shut up and let the people who like this game praise it.

"and in this case the combat cannot be
like diablo simple and repetitive, it would get tired quick"

Exact description of ryse but still people hype it. And you can be sure combat in this game would be diverse compared to ryse. There are special attacks, spells etc.

XtraTrstrL3863d ago

Yeah, that popped in my head immediately. I was wondering why they were talking about getting the beta into everyone's hands immediately. Very good news, now I have no choice but to give the game a shot, even though it has some hurdles to get past still to really be great.

FamilyGuy3863d ago

strifeblade

You're a HUGE hypocrite, Killer Instincts model is garbage and you know it. 8 characters in a fighting game? 720p at that so not only is it lazily made but designed to milk as well. Holding characters back outside that initial bulk purchase ability just so they can charge more, outside that bulk purchase, for the cooler characters later.

Why are you even in here when you have no plans on buying a PS4 anyway? You're in a topic that's 100% about a PS4 exclusive trying to get us to not like the game before it's even gotten a Beta? Please gtfo and don't come back. If you aren't interested why bother even coming in a Deep Down topic?

btw, Deep Down is 4 player co-op, not "only 2 player co-op". Don't know how you screwed that up when they mentioned it multiple times already and we clearly see it in 4 player co-op at the TGS showcase. Not only that but one of the 4 players was using the Vita remote play to play.

I really don't understand complaints about a F2P game, is it so much trouble to download it once it's out and then judge it? It's free, FREE, as in no risk whatsoever if you end up not liking it.

Complaining about a game that's still in it's alpha stage with barely one dungeon, one useable weapon type and one enemy type to fight in its demo is ridiculous. It's even going to have a beta which is already set to be months from now, feb-april so what's with the early concern?

Ritsujun3863d ago

Poor Xillyblindb0ts and Nintend00des are mad, aren't they?

tokugawa3863d ago

so what we will have to pay to move faster instead of walking through maple syrup..

or pay for more moves rather the poke em in the eye for massive damage lol

grfx aside, the game looks rubbish.. disagree ... you know where it is

5h4h4b3863d ago

@ Tokugawa

"ryse sp is LOOKING great. so yeah i hope that a sequel comes. day one for ryse for me #1.1.2"

Hypocrite much?

tokugawa3863d ago

lol ryses combat looks better than the pokefest that i saw the other day. sorry, being excluisve to sony doesnt equal instant greatness... and deep down is a prime example!

if this had been announced for the xbox one, and dr3 for the ps4, n4g would be singing a whole different tune about this game!!

example of n4gs hypocrisy.. ryse comments compared to deep down comments abd hype.

at the mo, i will dl deep down to see wha it is all about. but eye poking for massive damage is not really looking great (apart from the grfx) for now

5h4h4b3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

@ Tokugawa

First of all, no one is saying that deep down gameplay is amazing and best ever ( from what we have seen so far). People are praising it for amazing lighting and particle effects. ( fire effects are none like we have ever seen before)

Secondly, this game is in pre alpha stage, without any launch date. I can't understand why people are downplaying it and hyping ryse combat. You seriously think this tgs footage shows you everything about the game. What is special about ryse gameplay ? What amazing combos can you pull off? In deep down you can perform spells, special attacks, dodge rolls etc. It's not a pokefest like you people are claiming. Just because a player played it in a ridiculous and clumsy manner doesn't make the whole game pokefest. Please take off those fanboy goggles and judge the game properly.

"if this had been announced for the xbox one, and dr3 for the ps4, n4g would be singing a whole different tune about this game!!"

Yes. I also would have liked your and other xboys opinion if ryse would have been ps4 exclusive.
Btw people are saying that deep down is from capcom. They are money hungry. This cant be a good game. Who developed dr3? Why is it being praised ?

ZHZ903863d ago

I will be downloading Deep Down all the way!

abc12333863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

@strifeblade: You're making negative assumptions left and right about this game. You have no idea how the F2P model will be implemented here, there have been examples of fair F2P models in other games. You also only witnessed a single dungeon being played, with a single group of monsters, with a single weapon and a few other skills. Do you honestly believe that the final game will only ship with this much? How then can you call this a cheap game with boring gameplay mechanics? Calling this a low-budget game when the graphics rival or beat pretty much anything next-gen when it is a very early build and doesn't even have a release date yet is the most laughable part of your post.

And no, I don't know where you got the idea from that you speak for most gamers when it came to hoping that it was a retail game. A fair, F2P game which anyone who has a PS4 can download and enjoy and isn't hidden behind a paywall is clearly something which many gamers would want.

Legacy2123863d ago

I would have to say im disappointed and would have to agree with @strifeblade for some points. When i saw this game i thought it looked really good It reminded me alot of dark souls and the fact it had random dungeons and random enemies never bothered me (diablo, persona etc have random dungeons)The fact that its free 2 play really turns me off. I have played some free 2 play games and from my experience they are just hours of grinding to get your loot if you do not want to pay real money for it. Now i hope this isnt the case for deep down but i think playstation gamers would of gotten a more quality product if it was a full retail release. I remember all the hate and negative comments Killer instinct got on this site when they announced that it was a F2P game. Now, i am quite shocked to see how positive this news is. it seems pretty hypocritical. I am not here to argue what system is better or tell you for $40 bucks you get 16 characters with all there stories in killer instinct next year (there seems to be alot of misinformation about that game on this site) or tell you that deep down is going to be garbage. Both my brothers are getting ps4 and needless to say they feel the same way as i do about deep down. We will have to see more on the game but some people on this site have to keep your story straight. You cant go into every xbox article talking so much shit and bashing games like killer instinct because its free to play and then when you find out a ps4 exclusive is free to play praise it like its the second coming of jesus. Keep some consistency.

XB1_PS43863d ago

I don't want all the good games that come out to be F2P.. That's some bullshit. I don't want to have to pay for gear. I want to pay for the game, and have an even playing ground with everyone.

Farmville ruined everything.
F2P is the devil, Billy.

nveenio3863d ago

I would have paid $60 for the retail version of this game. I figure, with the F2P model, I could easily put $60 into micro-transactions and feel okay about it. (If the game is good, that is.)

abzdine3863d ago

i will be ALL OVER this game when it launches!! F2P? With such a quality?
damn...

MestreRothN4G3863d ago

But this is Capcom and F2P model together.

It just can't work at all.

Not on my watch list anymore, there's ho hope for this game.

monkeyfox3863d ago

@maniacmayhem

Whats not to like about the F2P model? Free to play means more people get involved from the start on a relatively unproven title and if you want to, you can still buy the unfettered access with all the extra bits for around £30 anyway...

andrewsqual3863d ago

@strifeblade I will admit that I was never into this as soon as it was revealed to be a dungeon crawler last week, then online only, then Free 2 Play. Worth saying I will check it out now though.
Nobody said Ryse or DR3 3 weren't big budget titles, all they said was they just don't look really good. ^_^

So you admit then that the new Killer Instinct (don't forget people have been waiting 15 years for a sequel) is absolutely abysmal then? You can buy it full price and get a whole 8 characters, wow. Made by the people who put the nail in the coffin on the Silent Hill series and know nothing about Fighting games too. But no its gonna be great.

Bimkoblerutso3863d ago

I gotta agree with MestreRothN4G.

There have been a COUPLE of good F2P (and keep in mind, that's a couple out of hundreds), but the fact that this is Capcom leads me to the assumption that the decision to go F2P was one of exploitation, not of accessibility.

We're most likely going to see monetized character progression, barebone weapons and equipment, locked dungeons etc. etc.

F2P almost always means that a game has been hacked to death to create as many money-making opportunities as possible without any regards to how disjointed it makes the game.

Tultras3863d ago

Haha, certain levels, loot, gear, equipment is already restricted to payments in full retail games, it's just titled "DLC".

maniacmayhem3863d ago

@ Monkeyfox

"Whats not to like about the F2P model?"

Some F2P's are done right, I have not played but I heard from many people that LoL is a F2P done right. But I happen to be in the Freemium business and I can tell you the sole purpose of it is to nickel and dime you as much as possible and to make a user pay a lot more than what he would buying full retail.

And this is also Capcom we're talking about. I am a huge Capcom fan but even I was disappointed with their antics for MvC3, SFxT and Asura's Wrath.

People are getting excited about F2P games but it's sole model is basically all about DLC. For the amount of complaints we got this gen about DLC I don't see how anyone could be happy about F2P.

But as I said earlier there are ways to make F2P fun and doable. Let's pray Capcom knows how.

Jack_Of_All_Blades3862d ago

PS4 and PS Plus is such great value! I cannot wait till November

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black0o3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

should I be hapPy or worried about capcom doing this to US
http://www.gifsforum.com/im...

theWB273863d ago

Worried..not for quality of game..but Capcom and their means of money making.

The pic is disturbing black0o...

GiggMan3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Could be like Drive Club where you can purchase the whole game. I was saying to myself that the game looks awesome but it's really not my type of game. Now I get to try it for free. You can't beat that.

Tctczach3863d ago

Aww. Double post from IGN. So here is a courtesy laugh. Ha.

Campy da Camper3863d ago

I think its great. I always watch videos and read reviews on games but you just never know until you play it for yourself. If it sucks you're out the money and pissed. F2P is awesome because I can play the actual game at no cost and see if I like it. If its cool then I figure I have 60 dollar microtrans budget since that what I would have paid for a full game.

That's a lot of goodies to buy and I doubt I would spend that much.

Win win.

black0o3863d ago

@Tctczach i post it everywhere not just here and IGN, its capcom and they we all know what's the result of F2p+capcom

deadfrag3863d ago

Coming from Capcom It will end been more pay to win than free to play mark my words!

DigitalRaptor3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

This is a Capcom/SCE collaboration project, so I'd only be concerned about one half of the equation. Both have their say, and as far as value goes, I think Sony has already made their statement.

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Irishguy953863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

All makes sense now...this is unfortunate. No wonder they are doing PCG(it's cheap). This game really is a tech demo.

Edit -
Now that we know it's F2P...we do know the extent of the PG. This game is exactly what we were told it was and nothing more. A dungeon crawling, pcg'd game. It is to show off the power of the Ps4 with a cheap game. I would have really preferred it to be a retail release, gotten a story, and gotten hand content over pcg. However, it's very unlikely that the game is going to have anything more than what has been shown, because you know...it's f2p. I thought this game was gonna be running for RPG crown when I first saw it. It just isn't.

PCG is procedurally generated content @ below. It's a very cheap way of making more content that generally is of lower quality or has less substance than a hand crafted game where developers create everything, place everything etc. They build a game engine to place objects randomly, enemies randomly and create dungeons with a random layout or a world with random layout. If you've ever played Oblivion you should know how poor it's dungeons where. It's a prime example of PCG.

Either 2 things are gonna happen here

1: Sony will ensure the game is not capcomized and expensive to play. This means the game is cheap, and has already clearly focused on graphics. Put 2 and 2 together and the thing is just a showcase of Ps4's power

2: Capcom will do as they do and this F2P title will be "Pay or this game will suck for you"

ABeastNamedTariq3863d ago

Tech demo? Oh gosh. The downplay is strong!

Just like you stated in another article, we don't know the extent of the PG. Don't go there.

FamilyGuy3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

what is PCG?
Paid Content Gaming/galore?

Anyway, Deep Down a "tech demo"...
Tech demos are usually amazing and I've always wanted to play around with one lol.

The game looks phenomenal so it doesn't matter what you decide to call it, are you even getting a PS4?
http://a.pomf.se/1Jo8.gif
http://farm4.staticflickr.c...

MysticStrummer3863d ago

I'm on my third playthrough of Diablo 3, and the one thing I wish it had was random dungeons. They have re-used scenery, yet are the same every time I explore them.

F2P is good, and it's not like F2P is the only option so play some other game if you don't like the idea.

I'll be checking this out for sure.

Jazz41083863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

"If it's no good then im not out any money" thats what renting and demos are for. I much rather this be a real retail title. I had faith in capacom for rpgs because of dragons dogma but this game really looked kind of slow and stale anyways imo just not much going on with the ai from what I seen and free to play is fine now that I have seen the game in action as I would not pay big money for this.

G20WLY3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Yeah, 'Irish', wrong as usual and jumping to conclusions. How about wait and see, how does that sound?

The fact that they're doing a beta shows they're confident this game will impress and there will likely be a premium option for full game, as often supports the F2P model.

^Jazz, to be fair, your comment history shows you to be anti Sony/pro MS in a big way, so your baseless insults towards Deep Down hold no weight, sorry. ;(

Also, Jazz, 8 days ago: "I canceled my preorder for the ps4 do to money reasons" = bitter much?.. lol

christian hour3863d ago

Please change your name Irishguy, you're giving us a bad rep here :P

There's nothing wrong with F2P. YES the model can be taken advantage of in very bad ways by greedy companies and capcom have proven that they are DLC microtransaction whores, so it could spell trouble, but only time will tell. But there are plenty of good examples of F2P done right, a lot of people in here have listed them so I wont bother repeating those titles.

Completely dismissing F2P because there are some bad models out there is kind of ridiculous. That would be like not playing any FPS any more because Activision milked COD for all it was worth. The F2P model works very well when it's planned well... Somethign tells me with Sony heavily behind this title they won't let capcom turn it in to a milk farm just yet.

Gonna go play some War Thunder now, still playing it months after getting it and guess what, its f2p and I have yet to spend a penny on anything extra and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything :)

League Of Legends is also awesome, but I hate MOBA's, too stressful and frantic for my gaming preferences :P

andrewsqual3863d ago

"Sony will ensure the game is not capcomized and expensive to play. This means the game is cheap, and has already clearly focused on graphics."

The fact is isn't coming to Xbox means it won't. PS users were even shafted on the price of RE HD and Code Veronica HD because it didn't fit under 2gbs and had to be released as an over expensive Games on Demand game on Live. Microsoft tightened that lease they have on Capcom since 2006 and said "do it on PlayStation too slaves".

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FamilyGuy3863d ago

No way.... O.O

I can't believe it's F2P

I will remain cautious though, don't really trust Capcom too much when it comes to micro-transactions. If there's an option to buy the full package/game I'll probably just go that route. They better not screw this up, they really can't afford to right now.

Happy gaming everyone!

Hicken3863d ago

Yeah. Honestly, Capcom hasn't instilled much confidence in me. But at least this is f2p, so I don't have to give them any money.

Neckbear3863d ago

This is terribly disappointing. F2P games never turn out to be good.

HammadTheBeast3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

League of Legends says hello.

So does Planetside 2, DOTA, Team Fortress 2, and many others.

solidsheep3863d ago

D&D online, path of exile.

MysticStrummer3863d ago

"F2P games never turn out to be good."

Sweeping statements are never the whole story. There are great F2P games.

joab7773863d ago

Unless its completely free...I would rather pay for it. Imagine diablo 3 being f2p...except u have to pay for all this shit. If its loot based...hopefully its just skins etc. Otherwise it could get bad. Anyway...why not tell is more about exactly what it is first.

showtimefolks3863d ago

thank you sony/capcom

i have psn-plu but what's nice is that you don't need plus to play free to play games

Volkama3863d ago

Free to play is not a gift. Some greedy publisher simply thinks they can make more money with the alternate payment model.

It doesn't necessarily mean the game is poor quality or low budget at all, and if you can stomach a shop in your game it may be a game you enjoy. But thanks isn't warranted.

Beastforlifenoob3863d ago

This destroys my hype like a bug under a watermelon.

I HATE FREE TO PLAY GAMES, because you constantly have to take out yo wallet instead of playing the freaking game and how much money is in it determines weather your player is good or bad (does not require skill just spoiled idiots). Instead of paying $60 you will pay $150 for everything in the game.

The freemium model needs to end, I want to pay 60 bucks play the game and enjoy it. Anyone who supports it should be publicly exucted and laughed at.

LetoAtreides823863d ago

You don't need everything in the game, you just buy what you want/need and sometimes you don't even need to use real money to buy it with.

thezeldadoth3863d ago

lol, now you guys are cool with f2p

turgore3863d ago

The sheeple on this site are pathetic. When killer instinct was free to play, everyones like "ph its gonna suck"
Now when deep down is revealed to be free, everyone thinks its the best game ever. Its gonna be garbage like 90% of free to play games.

PlayStation_43863d ago

Wow, now I'm excited!

Xbox One gets Killer Instinct and we get Deep Down.

Hyped! Hopefully Europe will get the beta

StoutBEER3863d ago

Well, when I get my PS4 2 years down the road this was gonna be the game i got. Guess that's solved! I can save my 60 for a fat sack get high and watch the Fire fly ;D

Blaze9293863d ago

I wonder how many people read this much at least:

"Capcom's"

Prepare for the micro-transactions

LiQuiZoN3863d ago

F2p isn't good. It means you'll spend quite a lot more than you would for a dark souls experience at 60$.

3-4-53863d ago

Best looking F2P game ever?

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Nitrowolf23863d ago

Dayuuuuuuuuuuuuum thats awesome

but then I see Capcom name on it and then it worries me at the same time. I can see them nickle an diming the shit out of this game as this gen has proved with pretty much all their titles.

Nes_Daze3863d ago

I agree, I'm excited but with caution...

LOGICWINS3863d ago

Of course they'll nickel and dime. That how free to play games work. You get the core experience and pay for extra stuff. The PS Plus version of Drive Club will be no different.

awesomeperson3863d ago

Isn't there an option with Driveclub just to purchase the full game outright with PS Plus?

I imagine you would have the option of buying individual cars and/or tracks, but there would be an option to buy everything.

And Driveclub is a bit more than Free to Play, seeing as the only locked things are some tracks and cars - you can still "complete" the game and get platinum with the Plus version.

FamilyGuy3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Driveclub is NOT FREE TO PLAY!

Get this through your skull!
Driveclub will release on disc at retail at the launch of the PS4, it is NOT FREE TO PLAY!

I don't see people going around calling all the other PS+ titles "F2P" but just because Driveclub is a limited content version you guys call it F2P. Uncharted 3 came to PS+ with only the story mode attached, no one calls that F2P. Ironically Uncharted 3s multiplayer is F2P.

-_-

I'm tired of people saying it's F2P, name one F2P game that launched at retail for $60 along side its online Free 2 Play model on day one?

Better yet, the purpose of the F2P model is to make money through micro-transactions, usually making it more expensive to buy all the content than just paying $60 for the full game. DriveClub isn't set up to make make you over spend, you buy the full game or or check out the free version on PS+. There is no price gouging.

LOGICWINS3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

"seeing as the only locked things are some tracks and cars"

YUP, thats the "extra stuff" I was speaking of.

"you can still "complete" the game and get platinum with the Plus version."

It seems like you can "complete" the FTP version of Deep Down. But I'm expecting Capcom to charge every few months for extra boss scenarios and characters.

I don't expect Dragons to be the only bosses and Knights to be the only protagonists. Imagine a sea battle with a giant squid!

@FamilyGuy- Why are you screaming lol? And DriveClub will be FTP if you have Plus.

LetoAtreides823863d ago

FamilyGuy I understand you feel negatively towards F2P and that's why you're trying to claim that DriveClub and Uncharted 3 aren't F2P but they are. F2P can be done right and has been done right in other occasions as well, as seen in games like PlanetSide 2 and DC Universe Online.

Legacy2123863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

drive club isnt free to play. Its like GT Prologue in a way. You get a part of the game for free with ps plus (some cars and tracks) and if you like the game you can purchase it at a discounted price being a ps plus member. Like a glorified demo

awesomeperson3863d ago

I get what you're saying. But in my opinion there's a distinction between the Playstation Plus edition of Driveclub, and a Free to Play model.

For example, I expect (hope) that the best cars and what-not will be locked behind a payall in Driveclub, as they most likely will be in Deep Down.

The whole details on it have been sketchy though, so we'll just have to see what happens on release.

strifeblade3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

@leto
You are probably the most uninformed person i whave witnessed in this thread so far and you do not understand F2P.

Now because ps+ offers a game for free does not technically make it f2p. f2p is a certain model of playing. Driveclub is not f2p, it has a retail version 60$, and members of ps+ get 15% of the game and if you want the rest you pay 40$-50$ fee. If driveclub was f2p you pay for every single car and track you want and pay separately. Its called microtransactions lol.

Killer instinct is technically f2p since it allows you to pay 5$ for a character or 20$ for 8 characters and their stories.

joeorc3863d ago

@LOGICWINS

"Of course they'll nickel and dime. That how free to play games work. You get the core experience and pay for extra stuff. The PS Plus version of Drive Club will be no different."

That's pretty much a sweeping statement, that is not true at all.

DCUniverse
Planet Side 2
Dust

all free 2 play and they do not " nickel and dime" the consumer.

Look while i agree there is many games that do, there is more games being built now that do not. and there is more free 2 play games on playstation platforms that do not " nickel and dime" than there are ones that do.

maniacmayhem3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

@ joeorc

You must be kidding about DCUO right? I haven't played the other two you mentioned but I have DCU and that is a prime example of F2P done wrong. They level cap you at the most critical point of gameplay.

F2P for DC is not even worth it, since you will need to pay just to unlock the better levels.

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PrimeGrime3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

The thing with free-to-play is you are not forced to buy anything. No matter how much you think you may need it, it is always you who makes the decision to spend money on micro trans.

If you simply don't like it, don't play it and don't spend money on it. Regardless it is free to try at least for you to determine that decision.

Campy da Camper3863d ago

Exactly. I spend 60 bucks on a new title. I look at this as I have a 60 dollar budget for micros. If the game sucks I'm not out anything.

Beastforlifenoob3863d ago

Yeah sure and only have 1 sword or armour.

Oh yeah and potions cost real money, so does anything that adds even a miniscule amount to the game.

Its capcom and its freemium.... That sentence is all you need.

thezeldadoth3863d ago

its so sad to watch you guys change your opinions on things in order to support your favorite system

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PLASTICA-MAN3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

This is clearly epic for PS4.

fsfsxii3863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

This sends XB1 deep down

Tctczach3863d ago

Yeah microtransactions sure do help games...

Legacy2123863d ago

does xbox hate really generate that much agrees here? man says this send xbox1 deep down and gets 35 agrees o_O? *face palm* the fan boys force is strong here

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Layden Has 'No Idea' What Happened to Capcom Deep Down Game

Former Sony executive Shawn Layden has "no idea" what happened to Capcom Deep Down game, which disappeared after announcement.

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SullysCigar957d ago

I thought this looked fun. I hope they do something with it eventually.

Rangerman1208957d ago

From what I have read, they wanted to delay the game to make the graphics "realistic". Imo, the game already looked good as it is. My guess is that perhaps they shifted their focus for a ps5 release but only time will tell.

Michiel1989956d ago

considering it looked basically better than any other game in that trailer, they were probably too ambitious. They also wanted to have endless dungeons, have several historic periods that they wanted to realize, infinite randomly generated loot. its not being made for ps5, it went in the dumpster, no way capcom would let them work on it from then on until now. it was like 9 years ago or something that trailer came out?

Ashunderfire86956d ago

I remember seeing demo footage of this game on the PS4! It already look like one of the best looking games on the PS4, like a prenext gen game before PS5.

Shinox956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

This was never meant to be a game and it was more like a showcase for their engine "Panta Rhei" that they never used in any game ( which probably named RE Engine now ) , yes this project was meant to be a low budget free to play game for the PS4 and planned to release in Japan but all of that was canceled in a matter of few months , this whole project has been silently canceled long long time ago and people does not know Capcom well when it comes to sideswiping projects

Giraiga13956d ago

@Shinox if what you said is true then that's a big shame really. I was really looking forward for the game, and it had some cool ideas and mechanics that caught my attention (though making it a F2P title was somewhat worrisome).

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darthv72957d ago

I always thought it was because of this games questionable development that they were able to do the deal for SFV in its place.

SyntheticForm957d ago

As far as I'm aware not a single game was developed with the Panta Rhei engine. Some aspects of the engine may have been folded into Capcom's current engines, but who knows, really?

I thought it looked really good at the time it was shown.

Giraiga13956d ago

Agreed. The game had a lot of promise, jankiness aside. Plus, I sorta loved the survival horror aspects of the game in certain areas.

ManInRed957d ago

Still sucks we haven't heard much from it. Really liked the concept behind it, and I feel like I was one of the very few who liked the game's music. A shame it's in hiatus as of now.

Sciurus_vulgaris957d ago

I think Platinum has been overextending itself for a good while now. Scalebound was canceled after missing deadlines and Bayonetta 3 has shown nothing since its announcement in 2017.

Sciurus_vulgaris957d ago

Posted my comment on the wrong article..,

Rangerman1208956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

Like Darkborn said, you still have a good point, even if it's not related to this newspiece.

Sciurus_vulgaris956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

@Darkborn and Rangerman1208

I think Deepdown's disappearance is simply due to Capcom focusing resources on their already established IPs ( Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and too a lesser extent Devil May Cry). Despite the vaporware nature of Deepdown, Capcom has been doing quit well for the past 4 years or so.

TheExecutioner957d ago

even capcom doesnt know .. no one knows what happened

Rangerman1208957d ago

Honestly, I want to believe the game will happen but after what happened with Wild, who's to say Capcom won't consider on pulling the plug on the game?

A shame cause the game looked very interesting.

Barneyco956d ago

Excuse my ignorance but was Wild cancelled or delayed? I didn't hear news about that.

Barneyco956d ago

I looked Wild up. I had no idea it was cancelled last year. I was looking forward to it.

spicelicka956d ago

It's quite deep down this game

hulk_bash1987956d ago

Deep down seemed like Vaporware from the start. There was never anything shown beyond the initial reveal trailer.

Yppupdam956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

There is always games like this that look cool and excites everybody...and then it disappears. Look at "8 days", everything about that game looked as cool as hell, The Story, Ving Rhames as one of the characters and pretty cool game mechanics (of what video leaked out of them) That game still stings to me, I really wanted to play it.

Giraiga13956d ago

Same thing with The Getaway for the PS3. I always wanted to try out English GTA from Sony, but it sadly never came to be.

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DVAcme957d ago

While the game never came out, I don't think it was time wasted. If you look well at how the camera follows the character and how it moves around during "gameplay", you'll notice it's spot-on identical to the camera in Resident Evil 2 Remake. Deep Down might have been cancelled, but it most likely became a proof of concept for Capcom in development of the REngine.

Magic_Spatula957d ago

I always thought it was a tech demo never intended to become an actual game. Pretty sure it's just them showing off what would eventually become their proprietary engine Reach For The Moon Engine or "RE Engine" as most people call it.

gleepot956d ago

capcom calls it the RE Engine, because thats what its called

Giraiga13956d ago

To quote from the other guy, it's definitely likely that Phanta Rei probably transformed into the RE engine. Still, it sucks the game might not see the light of day, especially considering how ambitious Capcom was with it.

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Capcom Renews Deep Down Trademark

Don’t count this game out just yet. Are we going to see Deep Down release on PS5?

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_SilverHawk_1393d ago

Hopefully its still in development and will be released on ps5 because deep down trailer looked amazing when showed years ago

Sonic-and-Crash1393d ago

i hope this to transform to " Dragon s Dogma 2 Deep Down" ....would be smart move and excellent to revisit DDogma elaborate world

Lore1393d ago

I’m hoping for both

camel_toad1393d ago

Capcom is really sitting on Dragon's Dogma and I don't get why. It was an out of nowhere fantastic game.

They need to come out with the sequel already.

Hakuoro1392d ago

That's actually what I always thought, that it was just a code name for a Dragon's Dogma game.

bouzebbal1392d ago (Edited 1392d ago )

heard good things about DD.
didnt have a chance to try it, so i hope the series gets some love cause i think it was successful.

Michiel19891392d ago

@sonic I rather hope for a Monster Hunter deep down, that could be amazing

Army_of_Darkness1392d ago

It's probably gonna be a ps5 game now.

nitus101392d ago

I will agree Dragon's Dogma is an excellent game and having the ability to climb on huge enemies is fairly unique, however, I really hope that Capcom (if they make DD2) reduces those "escort missions" or at least makes them much more interesting. Of course, if I hear "Harpy!" one more time I am going to scream.🤪

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ActualWhiteMan1393d ago

Deep down, it’s just vapor ware..

NVMGaiden1392d ago

Absolutely, I'm more interested in games that exist like Pragmata and Resident Evil 8.

Yui_Suzumiya1392d ago

Those are two games I'm most excited for as well

NovusTerminus1392d ago

Renewing a trademark is a sign of life because they cannot just indefinitely renew it, they only get so many renewals before it is rejected and open to the market again.

Relientk771393d ago

Good, hopefully we see Deep Down on PS5.

Kavorklestein1392d ago

I kind of have a feeling that Deep Down was put off until new hardware because the Quality of what we saw in the trailer looked like it was causing major frame issues and stutters on the PS4 the time.

The PS5 may finally be able to handle the visual goal of what they were going for.

drizzom1392d ago

Actually would like to see it on PC too.

isarai1393d ago

Hopefully it maintains the technology (like their fluid/particle simulations) and 4 player co-op

lildudexst1392d ago

Oh now they wanna work on it again

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10 Missing Games We’d Love to Hear from in 2020

Here are 10 major video games that are missing in action from the public eye, and we hope to see them make a triumphant return in 2020.

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