Fanboys are funny...

svoulis

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We want proof.

For starters I try my best to stay out of this whole fanboy war crap. This is something I simply cannot ignore. My question for Microsoft is, "Where is all the Xbox One 3rd party game footage?"

Honestly now, I have been doing as much research as possible to compare the 2 on fair ground and on a unbiased level but this is ridiculous. For a company so confident in their hardware they have shown little aside from off-screen footage and first party games.

Microsoft, why have 3rd party devs been showing their games on PC's or PS4 hardware and not on your console. Is this cause for concern?I mean who could genuinely answer this.

When I do find footage for games it is usually off-screen and first party only. How do you get away with this? What are consumers buying Day One without footage?

what we've seen so far as far as 3rd party is concerned.

BF4 (PS4 and PC)
The Division (PS4)
Destiny (PS4)
Watchdogs (PC and PS4)
AC IV (PS4)
COD GHOST (PC)

The only reason I ask is that consumers get what they are expecting. What could their motives be behind this. Why are 3rd party studios not showing off Xbox One Tech?

Now trust me. I have friends and family that swear by Microsoft and their console. Which is fine. That doesn't take away from the fact that No ONE has been talking about how strange this is. With all this "PS4 being 50% better then Xbox One" and all that hype surrounding it, how is it hard to believe when Microsoft has only shown very little footage for their own games.

For example. I was doing my absolute best looking for Forza 5 in game footage (not that pre rendered crap from E3), and all I can find is off-screen footage, which isn't going to help anyone because its off-screen. I want to see real footage. Ryse has had little to no footage, and the footage I do find is all from the E3 demo as well.

Is this any indication of what to expect from Microsoft, to remain "hush-hush" about the topic, yet leave comments about "we'll see about PS4 being 50% better" crap. If Microsoft was so inclined to prove that theory wrong wouldn't they try or at least let publishers show off the same game on each system? To prove to us all that Microsoft's Console can in-fact compete fine against PS4.

My intentions are to get a PS4 at launch and Xbox One for Christmas (from my girlfriend) but honestly, if Microsoft doesn't start proving more then saying I don't even know if I want an Xbox One now.

Here is what I am talking about for further proof.

Upon trying to find footage of games on both systems to write a compelling argument for Microsoft, I simply couldn't. EVEN on the Official Xbox Magazine website they were showcasing Watchdogs with PS4 footage. Here is the link.

http://tinyurl.com/myjgd5c

Skip to about 1:25 and you can clearly see the "press square" key come up.

They also do it with multiple games on the website.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/51167/...

All I am saying as a consumer this doesn't look very well for Microsoft. Honestly. What could it all mean though?

Has Microsoft really rushed out their console because of the reveal of PS4 in February?

For a company touting how great their hardware was, what was the reason for the Overclock on the CPU?

If you weren't so concerned with "RAW PERFORMANCE" why did you overclock in the first place. Much less do it "over the weekend" before production started?

Is that safe to do? Considering anyone who has owned an Xbox 360, probably fell victim at one point to the RROD? I went through 3 Xbox 360's before my Xbox 360 slim and they all went out with a red ring. Can we expect this kind of behavior with Xbox One?

I have a collection of Over 120 Xbox 360 games. I held through with all the issues with hardware, all the proprietary price hikes on hard drives, etc. I was doing it because I am a gamer, and at one pointed I liked your games.

But honestly Microsoft, If you can't even have the decentcy to show off your own games and 3rd party games to proof to us that we have nothing to worry about. I'll invest my money elsewhere cause I will not be tricked into your PR crap.

Here is all I could really find on Microsoft games.

I wont post the screenshots of 3rd party games as I really cant find any that are from the Xbox One. It's all PS4 and PC.

Ryse (The game I'd get day one when/if I get a Xbox One)

http://imageshack.us/a/img1...

http://imageshack.us/a/img7...

Dead Rising 3

http://imageshack.us/a/img1...

http://imageshack.us/a/img4...

Forza 5

http://imageshack.us/a/img8...

http://imageshack.us/a/img2...

NOW PS4

Infamous Second Son

http://imageshack.us/a/img1...

http://i.imgur.com/arIZLuH....

Drive Club

http://i.imgur.com/USNelaF....

http://imageshack.us/a/img3...

http://i.imgur.com/ex7pY8f....

Killzone Shadow Fall (multiplayer screenshots)

http://i.imgur.com/k87MlMA....

http://i.imgur.com/qQ6ZQu4....

See what I mean how much a difference a game looks with an off screen shot opposed to actual captured footage? This is what I mean. Sony is doing it left and right with exclusives. All over the internet you can find raw game play of all their exclusives. Not so much with Xbox One.

So please Microsoft show us what your console is made of. Show us consumers that we have nothing to worry about. Stop keeping us in the dark with nothing to compare it too.

Oh and for 3rd party studios. Why aren't you showing Xbox One gameplay? Just curious.

Thanks for reading, please leave a comment to discuss this. I'd like to see other peoples opinions on this.

Godmars2903868d ago

If any of the rumors turn out to be true then MS is only setting themselves up for a big embarrassment among the pixel counting crowd, which in the long run wont mean much to them.

NewMonday3867d ago

the most telling thing is that BF4 has exclusive marketing for XB1 but only shown on PS4/PC.

when both consoles release their wont be anywhere to hide and things could even get worse for MS.

5h4h4b3867d ago

Amazing stuff svoulis. I, myself, cannot understand why MS hasn't actually shown 3rd party titles on its platform yet, considering that they are pretty damn confident about their system. This is a very suspicious point, and its adding fuel to this debate that ps4 is indeed more powerful than x1 and the difference will be conspicuous if 3rd Party titles will be shown on x1 and will be compared with ps4.
People may come and say that drivers are not ready or are in a bad shape currently, but these people shouldn't forget that it's MS, this is a department where they are the king. This only proves that MS rushed x1 after ps4 reveal in feb.

Godmars2903867d ago

If they were confident about the XB1, they wouldn't have rushed to increase its specs while saying specs don't matter. They wouldn't be doing a number of things.

Fireseed3867d ago

Would you have preferred them to have the ability to make those optimizations and just sat on them in some sort of act of artistic integrity?

Godmars2903867d ago

I'd prefer that MS make some attempt to let their products stand on their own merits. Actually put some effort towards those ends. Not just throw money and double speak at it's issues.

For instance: repeatedly insisting that XBL is a great value yet putting 3rd party services like Netflix behind it. If MS thought that it was such a great service they'd let the basically multiplayer online service stand on its own.

Sarick3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

IMHO: Microsoft is like a caged animal looking for ways to escape their own trap they accidentally stepped in.

5h4h4b3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

Comparing those pics , I can easily say ps4 exclusives are definitely better looking.

FamilyGuy3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

They've got two months.
If some ridiculous problem shows up before launch that makes people change their minds they can always cancel their pre-orders.

Optimization apparently takes longer on the X1 to get to a point where they're comfortable showing game play off retail hardware so multiplatform games simply aren't ready yet.
In order to ship on time they've got to be ready at least a month before launch. At this time, Oct 22, we should see final code for all launch titles running on X1 hardware. Whether it's ready or not that is pretty much their deadline. I imagine there will be a lot of day 1 game patches if they don't meet that deadline but the games will have to come out regardless.

It is concerning that we're not seeing the multiplatform games but it will happen sometime before the system launches.

I'm more concerned with the thought that if devs are spending so much of their limited time on simply getting X1 games looking on par with the PS4 versions then there's a lot less chance we'll see them do any extra optimizations for the PS4 version. They'll just get the PS4 to a comfortable ("good enough") spot and then use all their focus on bringing the X1 version up to par. Never going back to put any effort in making the PS4 version better. Leaving it at that "good enough" state because of time restrictions.

svoulis3867d ago

Two months is cutting it close, reguardless of driver optimization or not. How much trouble is Microsoft actually in with all this? Do you think 3rd party DEVS are slowly reaching out about the power of each system for any particular reason?

I think that Devs will probably work on the PS4 version as the main developing platform, and if need be tweak it down to function properly on Xbox One.

The only reason I think this is because, we are only seeing footage running on PS4. Kind of like Devs are doing their best on that console, and maybe get a slightly downgraded version on the Xbox One.

My main cause for concern is the idea that both these consoles are suppose to have a 10 year life cycle. Raw Performance/power may not mean much right now, but 5 years down the line it certainly will.

generalthadeape3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

"Raw Performance/power may not mean much right now, but 5 years down the line it certainly will".

This is one of the strongest reasons that makes me question keeping my Xbox One pre-order.

A "weak" system now will eventually be a "weaker" system sometime soon in the future.

We've been told these systems will last 10 years-- I really don't want to constantly be "behind the curve" the entire lifetime of the Xbox One.

This is another serious problem that Microsoft has to face-- I'm buying the best next-gen system I can find-- NOT another iteration of the Wii U!

Come on Microsoft-- you guys have to pull this stuff together, if you want to be taken seriously.

EXVirtual3866d ago

You know, I think Sony and MS mean that that's how long they'll be producing the consoles. I think it'll be a bit longer though.
But either way, I'm thinking it'll be 6-7 years before the PS5 and XB2 come out. I've never seen any hardware that hasn't been replaced or updated in 10 years.

cell9893866d ago

That last part is so sad but true, I foresee a future where PS4 gets no justice from most 3rd party devs

GiantEnemyCrab3867d ago

Once the hardware is out and these games are in the wild they won't be able to hide. If the versions are less than their counterparts you can bet the gaming world will not be silent about it. You can always hold off on buying the games until they are out and people had a chance to play them.

svoulis3867d ago

But at that point you own the System and then what? You think Microsoft is going to return all those consoles that people dont want. Sure especially after signing into Xbox Live you agree to a EULA that you can't file a class action lawsuit of ANY KIND against them for any reason.

Yeah. Thats going to work well.

I think Microsoft needs to do something quick. If Sony is the only real contender, then we have a problem. Competition is needed to ensure good games, and good customer support. Sony will start slacking if they are too far ahead of Microsoft in terms of Quality. As you have seen how much they've changed since since PS3 launch, when they were the selling PS2's all over and Xbox was left behind. I hope it doesn't come to this. I want good competition for both consoles, not completely one sided like its been :\.

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