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North American White 3DS XL Will Help Nintendo Stay in the Black

White 3DS XL North America

ElementX3867d ago

Doesn't make much sense when 3DS has been outselling consoles.

Valric3867d ago

Nintendo is still posting losses even with all the 3DS sales. Nintendo is on record saying the whole point of releasing a 2DS is to increase their handheld market. So, why would it be pointless to sell more 3DSs if this is their aim? All of 2012 till present, Japan has sold more 3DSs than the Americas combined. Might have something to do with the fact that the 3DS is offered in a greater variety there.

PopRocks3593867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

"Nintendo is still posting losses even with all the 3DS sales."

Last quarter they posted a net profit. Mostly attributed to the 3DS' success.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/i...

falcon973865d ago

Nintendo did make a profit and yes it was due to 3ds and wiiu game sales,obviously 95% was due to 3DS.

Yep3866d ago

Wow, talk about uninformed.

Valric3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

Okay, so Nintendo was posting losses except this last quarter. Obviously it is the handheld market that is keeping them afloat so they can either dramatically turn the Wii-U fortunes around or they can keep the handheld sales rolling. I'm not sure why no one views increasing their already decent handheld sales as a positive. Why sell a 2DS if they are content with their handheld sales as is? Lets face it, the handheld market is their tugboat pulling their stranded flagship to shore. Just like that cruise ship that had to be towed to Alabama. As good as the 3DS is performing, why not rack up all the sales of the people holding out for colors that are on all the blogs, Gamefaqs, etc. I always find questions on Yahoo, Google, and answers.com: "When is the white 3DS coming to America?"

Locksus3866d ago

I think Nintendo's only posted losses twice during the time they've been in the console business.
They've got lots of money.

Valric3866d ago

True, but it depends how you view their financials. If you view Nintendo as a whole, they usually don't post losses because of their stocks they have invested in other things and also the money they make on all their copyrights and IP's. Nintendo was smart with their money they made early on and this is a prime example of why hedgefund advisors stress a diverse portfolio. But if you view Nintendo's performance strictly based on their own sales, they have posted more losses than they are comfortable with. Wii-U is mostly to blame. I think the price drop will alleviate some of their concern.

falcon973865d ago (Edited 3865d ago )

At least Nintendo have a handhel business to keep WiiU alive,PS4 wont have this neither will xbox1 vita is selling very bad and Microsoft hasn't got a handheld and that new shareholder at Microsoft wants to close the xbox brand and if xbox1 sells poorly then that might just happen ? so lets see how Sony and Microsoft do after their initial 1st months sales ????

Nintendo will keep Wiiu alive no matter what they have the best ip's in the industry and i think they will do anything to make sure wiiu survives..Iwata said he will get the wallet out if all fails and boy have they got money.

jeffgoldwin3865d ago

@Falcon

Ive heard rumors that while MS doesn't have a handheld, they may or may not have something called Windows. Maybe you've heard of it, maybe not.

I think MS have better IP's (for my entertainment buck) and definitely Sony has better IP's than the cartoons Nintendo has. Not in reference to sales, but just personal preference.

"so lets see how Sony and Microsoft do after their initial 1st months sales ????"
Um the pre-sales for both consoles are setting records and are sold out at a lot of gaming stores already. You really cant be this much of a blind Nintendo fanboy can you?

falcon973865d ago (Edited 3865d ago )

Look what do u define as better grey graphics at 25fps and sub par HD resolution ???

Look Sony will even admit Nintendo has Legacy something they can't achieve its called franchises people love,people still play Snes,N64,Gamecube ect and in terms of gameplay and framerates Nintendo wins hands down and Hardcore franchises like Metroid or Zelda,Smash bros, put Sonys and Microsofts best to shame,look Galaxy on wii was better than anything on ps3 or 360.....wake up just because you prefer Sonys ip's they certainly are not the best in the industry,ive never seen any game character drawn on the streets of america like you get Mario and co the love for Nintendo's games is much higher than Sonys and defo Microsofts,Mario has sales of over a 1 billion...across every iteration ??? work it out.

Legacy is earnt from getting things right from the start,Nintendo don't need new ip's as much as the others because their ip's have seen success in other words they made games from the start that people still love today,Sony and Microsoft haven't a chance m8.

Zelda
Smash bros
Metroid
Animal crossing
Mariokart
Mario Galaxy

These games are of the highest quality end of.

Listen that new shareholder at Microsoft wants the xbox brand dead ?????

jeffgoldwin3864d ago

@falcon

All those cartoony games you listed were fun, when I was under 15. Now, not so much.

But now they are kinda fun to occationally play with my kids.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 20h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 18h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 17h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 16h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 20h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 19h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 20h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 18h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 18h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 18h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 15h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 16h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 6h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman1d 21h ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 17h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts18h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 3h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel8d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing7d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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The Nintendo Partner Spotlight Sale Is The Perfect Excuse To Get These 6 Gems

Huzaifa from eXputer: "The Nintendo Partner Spotlight sale event has discounted a number of worthy titles on the Switch. Here are 6 of them you should check out."