Richard Bailey Jr. of The Koalition writes:
Way back on November 18th of 2012, Nintendo released what they envisioned as their answer to next-gen consoles with the retail launch of the Wii U. As a result of this move, anxious consumers everywhere flocked to the stores to pickup their first piece of next-gen hardware. Fast-forward to almost one year later and both the Wii U hardware and software sales are absolutely dismal. Most of this is attributed to the fact that many third-party developers and publishers lack confidence in the platform and therefore see no reason to use it within their everyday business practices.
The RPG has seen an explosion in popularity thanks to Amazon's TV show, but it was Bethesda's most controversial Fallout for a long time.
I loved it. And I platinum'd it. I guess it's like most "divisive" games. If you don't like it, so what? Let those that do, enjoy it.
The article is trying to create fud where there was none. It has an 87 meta (on PS4). There is nothing divisive about it. It was well received. Period. I don't remember any arguments except for some performance issues when it first came out. Thats it.
I really enjoyed Fallout 4.
I loved the halfway goal of what you are building towards. I had a good sense of what it was and then when you finally are almost there the music builds up - beautiful!
@Eonjay Forget the meta scores there are plenty of people who loved Fallout 3 but thought Fallout 4 was a bit of anticlimax and I do get it. Pete Hines the retired head of Bethesda's PR was even asked about it, and his answer was that it was because it simply didn't have the novelty of being brand new that Fallout 3 had.
No venture beyond that so many of the hardcore gatekeep the franchise hard as 4 was far more popular and simplified many of the rpg elements refined shooting to the point where vats was optional the game was far more accessible and sold the most out of every franchise entry to date.
It's my personal favourite I get why people love 3 or NV but I do hate seeing people crap on 4 and the people who like it.
It was a good shooter especially coming from FO3/NV game wise improvements wise but it was a below average RPG and that’s where many felt ROG elements should have been deeper
- Fallout 4's story, characters, dialogue, and quests. They even managed to make the Vaults boring.
- Fallout 76 is Fallout 4 online. Same crap.
- Starfield doubled down on the crappiness of all these aspects despite being a new IP.
People bought and liked all of these games, which sends the message that we want more of this. I don't know about you, but I don't like being treated as a child and my intelligence insulted by developers.
Fallout 4 wasn’t so much divisive as not very good. But there aren’t many first person RPGs so what else are fans of the genre supposed to play?
I think it was the lack of morality gameplay and lack of path to completion options compared to what fallout 3 and New Vegas offered. I think the issue mostly arose because of the voiced protagonist and how many lines of dialogue that needed to be recorded. Didn’t leave for many options beyond “good” “sarcastic douche” and the odd question or two for nearly every interaction. Personally I thought the game was fantastic as an adventure and exploration game, I liked the park system and base building, but the rpg aspects were fairly gutted. It made shooting much more tolerable too but it still wasn’t anything fantastic. The faction choices were ok and I felt like they all provided a more grey moral choice dilemma compared to older games which felt more good/evil but it wasn’t presented as such as prominently as I would’ve liked. You had to do some more internal and critical thinking of your own to come to decide why you’d support one faction over another unless you were in it just for some in game benefit or another.
I didn't like any of the factions, so when it got to the point that I had to choose, I chose to stop playing
I finished the game but you are correct. I was thinking I don’t really know which one to pick as I don’t really care for any of them. I was near the Institute so I just went with that quest line. A lame way to choose who will win but I didn’t really prefer one over the others
I don't think FNV was good/evil. You have evil with Caesar's Legion, then everything else is different shades of grey imo and quite relative to your own political views! 😅
1 Bad writing, the main quest is terrible. The sense of urgency of the story is at odds with the open world nature of the game
2 Boring, bland factions
3 too much personality for the main character. The game decides that you're married, that you love your son, your voice... a rpg like fallout should have a blank slate mc
4 dead open world. Fallout 3 and nv have a bunch of small cities and locations on their maps that give you interesting quests and dialogue. In Fallout 4 it feels like 80 per cent of the map is focused on combat and environmental storytelling, it feels more like a post apocalyptic action game rather than a dialogue heavy rpg
Fallout 4 is a very fun open world fps with really cool environmental storytelling but a very poor rpg
For those looking to jump into the post-apocalyptic RPG for the first time, here's everything you need to know about it and its upcoming next-gen update.
Got it installed on my PS5 ready for this. Not sure I'll play it very much though because I didn't like the settlements feature, it just never seemed to gel with me.
Looking forward to giving it a shot though
Hopefully it won't be after the update. Mind you it'll probably introduce some new bugs 🤣
I was lucky and had minimal bugs at launch in 2015. I got the platinum trophy a month after launch.
This was my question, article states it’s a native version so will need to re-download when it releases.
Hoping it’s not a Bethesda buggy mess as the game has been out forever, but not holding my breath. Also unsure if saves will transfer, unlikely as again it’s a new version of the game
"Not sure I'll play it very much though because I didn't like the settlements feature, it just never seemed to gel with me."
Doing the settlement related crap isn't mandatory, feel free to ignore it.
tod: Can you load the start menu?
q&a: yes
Todd: does it load in allow you to move?
Q&a: yes
Tod: Great its gone gold ship it that is the quality we here strive for.
It was always playable for me on my PS4 Pro. I don't recall any issues aside from the usual 'Bethesda Bugs'. Nothing even close to game breaking.
Now yes but first year it was very bad and you had to watch the save file size
@just_looken
No I mean even back then, I can't recall any significant issues. Funny thing with the save file size is there were serious problems with Skyrim on PS3 because of the save file, until it was patched. Seems that Bethesda just don't learn.
Far Harbor was barely playable on Pro for me, it was a slide show in the fog. I’ve been waiting for this patch for what seems like forever!
Tried to play it again on PS4 last week to finish Far Harbour, the game kept crashing on launch. Hopefully this new patch let's me start the game lol
If Far Harbor is butter smooth and this baby has a smooth release overall I’ll take back everything terrible I ever said about Bethesda. This is the best game they put out in the last ten years. Still betting on a Day one patch incoming though and probably more to come. They should allow pre load bc their servers are gonna get boinked.
Yeah far harbour on the PS4 was playable for me but wow did that fog cause significant slowdown killed off any desire to explore and instead I would go point to point as fast as possible.
Here’s the one Pro Tip you need—play as Evil, it’s impossible to keep track of who you are supposed to be for and against with all the Factions—I say F them all and play Evil so it’s no stress! Lol
I never finished the game because I got to the point where the game really wanted me to pick a side, I didn't want to side with anyone so I just stopped playing. It's pretty rare for me not to finish a game, but it just got boring.
Four Fallout games break into the European Top Ten following TV show launch
Truly impressive!
European Weekly Top 10 (Digital + Physical)
1 Fallout 4 (Bethesda)
2 Helldivers 2 (Sony)
3 EA Sports FC 24 (EA)
4 Grand Theft Auto 5 (Rockstar)
5 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
6 Red Dead Redemption 2 (Rockstar)
7 Hogwarts Legacy (Warner Bros)
8 Fallout 76 (Bethesda)
9 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda)
10 Fallout 3 (Bethesda)
Lol, you hate Bethesda so much now because they are owned by MS, not realizing that those games are all on PS, that most likely the reason they are back on the list, which by the way is excellent for 3 single players games that is really old...so your salt means nothing, we don't expect them to be on the list for months, shit we didn't expect to be on the list now given how old they are.
Bravo to a successful franchise and now T.V show.
I'm not lying. The longevity of RDR2 is impressive. The Bethesda games will drop in a month.
@Thesoftware. No people people have disliked Bethesda way before MS. Ever since Fallout 3 they've released buggy, broken, graphically dates, poorly animated, terribly voice acted games. The difference is the scale of the game when FO3 dropped was still fresh. In 2024, games standards have risen and people won't give Bethesda a free pass whilst the rest of the industry has got betterans in many ways surpassed them.
I was tempted to fire up FO4, but then remembered the settlements, and raider attacks and crap like that. Then I found out about FO London coming out soon, then that got delayed.
I've been playing FO3 and NV and will no doubt start up 4 again when the current gen patch drops.
There was a rumor that Bethesda maybe doing FO3/NV remastered collection. I hope they do and bring some quality of life improvements. Both games are awesome but could be better if done right given the remastered treatment
I don't mind the backwards compatible versions on the Microsoft store honestly.Both 3 and NV have quick load times and FPS boost. I originally played FO3 on the PS3 so it felt like a different game to me with those changes alone. My FO3: GOTY expierence on the PS3 was bad enough I didn't even bother with NV until I got a XBO.
I wouldn't say no to a remaster however. Feels like now would be the time to announce it what with a hit show boosting awareness for the IP. We'll see what happens.
Loving the show and it 100% has me itching to boot up a FO again. The only question is whether to replay 3, NV or 4
The show is really good, it's everything I expect from a video game adaptation. The main audience being the fans of the franchise, new viewers not being the target audience was not what I was expecting.
They been doing good on game love action series nowadays that's wassup I'm glad they managed to catch the fallout vibe in the show
The Wii U is a decent console but the lack of third-party games is simply annoying. It's also hard to call this a next-gen piece of hardware when clearly the PS4 and Xbox One blows it out of the water.
I really wouldn't consider ESO next gen anyway. Heck not even most console gamers are excited about that MMO. So overall WiiU owners really aren't missing anything when it comes to ESO.
the definitive version of all your favorite games,will not be on the wii u.
but its nintendos fault,they need to secure better exclusive third party content, they had a year advantage and let it go to waste,they really just need a new strategy.