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PS Vita TV, Sony's smartest piece of tech in years

We are given a better explanation on what exactly the Vita TV is and how it'll benefit you.

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miyamoto3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

So we have a new next gen HOME console coming out this year?

The PS Vita TV.

I love gaming on the big screen but...

I still think PS Vita with mini HDMI out is the best thing Sony should have done besides the PS Vita TV. Like my PSP 3000 has A/V out and it can connect to any TV.

And I don't wanna have to buy nor carry a Dual Shock 3!

Can I use a PS Vita or DualShock 4 as controller for PS Vita TV?

PS vita is supposed to be a console, controller, screen all- in-one solution like the PSP 3000.

Throw in the 720p or 1080i HDMI display output and media streaming tech and you have one helluva portable gaming machine with the redesigned PS Vita!

Should I wait for PS Vita 3000, Sony?

mewhy323872d ago

This is a great idea. Another trump by Sony. Being able to second screen to another tv for the PS4 is a really really good idea. I'm sure that it won't be long until the mongers at micro$oft copy this idea. But you'll have to have an xbone live gold account to use it LOL.

darthv723872d ago

It reminds me of the PSP GO in a way because it can plug into a TV and use a DS3 (like the GO).

And it also reminds me of the prototype UMD drive sony was working on before they came out with the PSP 2000/3000. That was supposed to be a USB device that you plug into the PS2 to play PSP games on a tv.

It may not be a fully revised Vita with tv out but it is still and neat idea.

miyamoto3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

Look at my disagrees!
People we need discussions not angry disagrees, LOL! Man up abit.

OT

PS Vita TV Adapter...
PS Vita TV Adapter...
PS Vita TV Adapter with extras in it...

is a nice way to look at this whole bloody thing.

I will now let it sink in a bit in my head.

Now it makes sense to me.

Even if the small form factor is aimed at Japanese gamers I really hope its around $75 to $80 in NA.

Bye Bye Ouya!

ShwankyShpanky3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

And your post was a "reply" to miyamoto in what way exactly? Oh, it wasn't. It was just riding coattails on the first post. Lame.

TotalHitman3872d ago

I love this idea. No PS3/4 or Vita is needed. Buy PlayStation Vita TV, buy some Vita games and your set to play Vita games on a TV. This could be big if Sony market the product right.

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iamnsuperman3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

The only issue with that is price. Price is still a big problem for the masses and Sony needs to sell more systems so companies like Ubisoft and EA will develop more games for it (as well as indies) building up the library so more people buy the Vita.

This is smart as it is a very low entry price for people wanting a media system. It combats like likes of Apple TV and Chromecast as it offers big games too. Combine that with the relatively low entry price means people who are not ready or sure to pick up a next generation system could pick up this as games are being made (quite regularly) for it. It then gives people a taste of Vita games which means they could buy a Vita if they want to go more portable (more justified if they have a large library already which this device could offer).

Then you have the PS4 connectivity side of things which means people who don't buy a system immediately but get this as it is a low cost multimedia system would stick with playstation as it all connects together (big thing for consumers. Another tick in the box).

Sony's main mission is to get more people buying Vitas (as it isn't selling well) and this is what this does (like a trojan horse). Sticking a HDMI on a Vita doesn't change the fact people do not want to buy it. This device is all about the masses and keeping the masses with Playstation and Sony

black0o3872d ago

I was thinking the same thing, they wanna expanded the in-base for vita and they can't drop the price anymore for now

and also it support both DS3 and 4 which is win for console owners that luv to ply on big screan and can't stand handheld

and down the line when gaikai launches its gonna be another story

Maddens Raiders3872d ago

Warpath. Sony is on it. I haven't seen them this aggressive and hungry since the PS2 days. The potential for viral marketing due to the inherent capabilities of the Vita is simply brilliant.

dredgewalker3872d ago

@Miyamoto
The problem with adding hdmi output to a vita will probably add more cost to the unit itself. This is actually a very smart move by Sony. This might even serve as an introductory model to getting a vita handheld. For $100 you get a small console that adds additional functionality to your tv.

miyamoto3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

Agreed.
This is why I love good discussions.
We see things from all angles.
thanks.

PS Vita TV could sell at $75 to $80 in NA
New PS Vita could sell at $150 here in NA

not bad

i hope it supports Gaikai too

dredgewalker3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

I respond politely to people who have genuine concerns and questions. To be honest I also wanted the hdmi output for the vita too since its always good to have that option. Maybe we'll get that feature in another revision.

Saigon3872d ago

I think why I like this so much is because Sony just told me that have more choices to game from anywhere. I don't have to purchase multiple PS4s; I can game on the go; I can game on vacation; I can game from anywhere in the house that has a TV and the device connected to it. I have to admit, at first I did not like this idea, but I am coming around to the possibilities...

kneon3872d ago

@miyamoto

"i hope it supports Gaikai too"

I expect it will be a Gaikai client, it's likely that the technology they are using for streaming PS4 games is the same as Gaikai under the hood, it's just that they have substituted your PS4 in place of their servers.

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Dan_scruggs3872d ago

I'm not seeing the logic here. Sony Announces a new model of PS Vita and then announces and very good reason not to buy it. Also you wont even be able to play many of the games on your TV because the PS4 doesn't have the touchscreen capabilities of the Vita. This will make the Vita library even more limited for TV play.

dredgewalker3872d ago

Do your research please before spouting anymore nonsense. Most of the touchscreen capabilities are gonna be addressed by the dual shocks l3 and r3 buttons. Also the DS4 will be supported upon PS4 launch and that controller has a touchpad.

miyamoto3872d ago

hello DualShock 4 has a touch pad, mate. And DualShock 3 L3 and R3 buttons will compensate for touch functions like in dragon's crown Ps3 version.

all bases are covered. Sony ain't stupid you know.

Tapani3872d ago

Dualshock 4 has a touchpad and two extra triggers to cover the touchpad behind the ps vita. They cannot announce all those touch-based games now for PS Vita TV, because it's coming out only in Japan, and PS4 (read= dualshock 4) will be out in February there.

GraveLord3872d ago

These 2 new products are aimed at 2 different markets. If you like portable gaming, you won't buy this, you already have a Vita.

Conzul3872d ago

@GraveLord
But can you mirror your Vita screen onto a larger TV screen? Methinks that is the question.
If not, then it's still the same market.

TimeSkipLuffy3872d ago

yes, it will be limited. Even the additional buttons on the vita won't compensate the touch functionality. Devs would have to create patches to replace the functions. But it will be great to play all the indi titles and psp\psone titles. Gaikai might add ps2 games as well. There you have a console with a vast library of games.

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GraveLord3872d ago

Are you stupid? You don't have to carry a Dualshock 3 or Vita TV. It's meant for TV USE.

The portable Vita with a screen will still continue to be sold.

nunley333872d ago

and you wouldn't be carrying a ps3 DS3 for vita tv,it's for home use.If your out and about,you would just use your vita like normal.

PSjesus3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

Very well written from gamesraddar
this device well be essential for any gamer who travel alot,and ll make PS brand bigger than ever

OrangePowerz3872d ago

I kind of prefer the Vita TV over a redesigned Vita with HDMI out. It will be cheaper for me to buy the Vita TV over trading in my current Vita to get the new one because the trade in price at best would be probably 80 bucks

Jaqen_Hghar3872d ago

At Gamestop maybe. A man would recommend selling on Ebay.

kayoss3872d ago

@werewolfss
From a guy who couldnt even use the correct word to trash talk. It's "You're" not "your".

edgeofsins3872d ago

A lot of people say the Vita performs bad in sales. I guess making the newer Vita offer the new features in itself would have been a great selling factor.

ovnipc3872d ago

another crap from sony. I never like handhelds yea the vita is cool but if I connect to a TV for that its better the x1 or ps4, not a vita, a vita is for video game on the go, being at home playing on a 5 inch led it stupid, better to play xbox or pc.

edgeofsins3867d ago

A Vita is for gaming before anything else. People really like the $100 for a near PS3 experience on their TV, as well as the extra features it has.

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malokevi3872d ago

When I read about this, and considered the applications, this morning, I was very impressed.

Basically it's #1 function will be to hook up to a second screen in the house. Essentially enabling a single PS4 for two screens without having to move the console. Rather smart. MS is probably kicking themselves.

Snookies123872d ago

Not to mention it's small. So you can take it to friends' houses and play your PS4 games remotely from anywhere with an internet connection. Pretty ingenious if you ask me.

TimeSkipLuffy3872d ago

I would
love to play my ps4 games in a hotel because I travel a lot. Only problem: Internet usually sucks...

P0werVR3872d ago

The only thing I have an issue with this feature is whether this has always been in the design or is this just a recent feature being added.

Can anyone confirm when is this release or when were any news in the past on it's development?

It's at least important to me because it'll only work as good as it should IF it had time for to be designed. If it was just recent then this is nothing than a mere respond to what Microsoft is doing and not operate as good.

Similar to their deal with Viacom out of the blue.

rainslacker3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@Power

Releases Nov 14th in Japan.

I really don't think there was much involved in having to design this. It's just a vita motherboard, likely the new redesigned one, in a small box with HDMI out(something they already have on dev kits. They probably just needed to update the OS to adapt it's functionality. I believe Vita already supports bluetooth so it would have been easy enough to add DS3/4 support...and hope it comes to the regular Vita too.

The Vita itself was designed around remote play, so doubt that will be an issue. They've already shown it working, and I've used it myself from time to time.

There may be some hiccups with the software at launch, but Vita itself is pretty solid right now.

Only thing I would want more on it is a wired Ethernet port for home use.:)

jp_footy23872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

Hi malokevi,

Do you know if ps4 games will be able to be played at 1080p? I know that Vita games will be outputed at 720p, but what about PS4 games?...

Thanks

rainslacker3871d ago

According to Sony's spec sheet on it the max video out is 1080i. PS4 games will likely play at their native resolution if they are below that, as it's just a video stream and there is no heavy work going on in the device itself.

AznGaara3872d ago

Not just in your house either. Its through wifi so you could theoretically take the VitaTV to your friend's house. Hook it up to his TV. Connect through his wifi, connect to your Ps4 and have a good time. lol.

Anon19743872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

That's what I saw as the main take away for this device as well. At home, I have a main PVR and a box that connects to the PVR in another room. This is the same idea, a PS4 extender that allows you to play your PS4 in another room without needing to move the unit. It's a fantastic idea. The fact that it plays Vita games and streams media almost seems secondary to me, but is still a shrewd move to move Vita software.

For $100 I'll certainly be looking at picking one of these up down the road. I currently have a 2 PS3's, one on my home theater in my den and one on the TV up in the living room. Being able to extend my PS4 to another room without shelling out another $400 is good news, and I'm already a Vita owner so it's nice to be able to plug in my Vita games to play on the TV if I so choose.

Death3872d ago

If it works well as a remote access spot to play your PS4 games. If it does not, then what?

Darrius Cole3872d ago

I move my PS3 ALL THE TIME. Constantly going from the one room to the next but now that is out the window for less than $100.

But doesn't it play Vita, and PSP games natively on its own? I thought I saw that. If it does then it's a full stand-alone console, as well as a PS4 extender.

This is the best idea I've seen from a console maker in years. When they start putting that in bundles with a PS4 then it is going to sell monstrously.

I wonder why they paired it with DS3. Does anybody know if it will work with the DS4 as well?

rainslacker3871d ago

Yes, it's a full Vita without the OLED screen. Comes with 1GB of on board memory and takes Vita memory cards and retail games. Can use it to download PSP/PS1/PSVita titles, as well as stream games from the PS4, and I'd imagine PS3 games that support remote play. I'd imagine this will be a big part of Gaikai when they launch that.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them launch a line of TV's with these embedded in them too.

And yes, it'll work with the DS4.

Sony really wasn't kidding when they said they had an announcement that was beyond anyone's wildest imagination the other day. Can't believe Sony was able to keep something like this from leaking out...it's so unlike them.:)

kayoss3872d ago

I dont think i would want to carry xbox One anywhere. That thing will hurt my back.

joeorc3872d ago

@malokevi

"When I read about this, and considered the applications, this morning, I was very impressed.

Basically it's #1 function will be to hook up to a second screen in the house. Essentially enabling a single PS4 for two screens without having to move the console. Rather smart. MS is probably kicking themselves."

Yupper's, this have been a goal , to expamd the playstation Eco System, because when Sony was Also creating the Playstation Suite, which is now playstation Mobile. They were looking at being able to make existing Android Powered devices, being able with just a download APK. to be able to be used as an extended Arm of the Playstation Eco System. the key is Microsoft is also doing that with SmartGlass. the New xboxone can have upto 16 smart glass enabled devices connected to the xboxone. Sony's idea is along the same lines, but using Android stack instead of Windows OS off the bat. Having two more dedicated PSVita powered Hardware platforms though does give more developer's directed platform uniformity on hardware. than just the many types of smart devices out there. But with both dedicated and smart devices being able to be used.

Sony's remote play was not just going to be the PSVita only, but it was going to be the main device for such platform targeting for mobile gaming on the go for a playstation Eco System.

It was one of the thing's Sony's engineers was talking about many years ago in 2003 when they wanted to build up a playstation Eco system of moving the playstation experience from just the living room to the Mobile space. this is just the many, years of Evolution to this idea.

InSpectre3871d ago

The wife and I have two PC's in separate bedrooms. I'm thinking about getting a PSVTV for each of them so we can have PS4 content anywhere we need it. I'm psyched!

I love the idea of having my PC and PS4 content right on my PC as well as the PS4 in the living room. Freaking cool!

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GreenRanger3872d ago

They should let this thing play digital PS2 games.

WeAreLegion3872d ago

Agreed. I'd love if it could stream PS3/PS2 games from the PS3.

sAVAge_bEaST3872d ago

This will stream Gaikai, when it launches.

Yep3872d ago

Not in the slightest in my opinion.

I think PS Vita TV is a terrible idea.

In summation, it's a device with the PS Vita System UI that allows you to play PSV, PSP, PS1 and Media content only on your TV. Also since it has the PS Vita UI it is able to play all PS4 games via remote play powered by Gaikai.

First of all, between the PSV, the new model, and PSV TV, they're going to end up confusing consumers unless they can find a way to explain the uniqueness of all three. But who are they marketing this to? Is PS Vita TV supposed to be a substitute for getting a PS Vita? If so, great (Cheaper), but how will it look playing the PS Vita on a, say, a 32" TV screen? It'll most definitely look worse playing Borderlands 2 on PS Vita TV than on PS3, PC, or Xbox 360. You also forfeit true portability as the device doesn't have a screen. Is it supposed to make the PS4 more portable? If so, can't we already just take the PS4 console with us if we're going on vacation or is it really worth the added portability (also does it even stream in the same resolution)? If I already have a PS Vita, is the ability to play on the TV really worth the extra money?

It just doesn't seem to even have an actual market. I think scrapping the PS Vita, making all PS Vita exclusives PS4 games from the start, and making a new device (with a screen) with the sole purpose of allowing you to access PS4 games on the system (Via remote play), would have been more ideal. Pretty much, I think Sony would have effectively created a portable GamePad for the PS4 albeit with a smaller screen. Sure this would further perpetuate the stereotype that Sony just borrows ideas from Nintendo, but at least I think it would have made them more money perhaps.

Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe this is just what Sony needed.

1lawrence3872d ago

it has an lcd screen what r u talking about

Yep3872d ago

Wait a minute, no it doesn't. I'm surprised you even got "agrees". If it did, it would be redundant and wouldn't be so cheap.

BLow3872d ago

ITS AN OPTION!!! Some people like me don't like handheld gaming. This let's me play Vita games if I choose. It also allows you to stream from any TV in your home with 1 system. If your can take this out of the home then your can take this(which can fit in your pocket) as opposed to taking a $400 console around with you while your on VACATION. It's called convenience.

These companies make most of there MONEY FROM SOFTWARE. This is just an OPTION to get more people to buy more games which means MORE MONEY. More people to enjoy more games is not a bad thing. This is just a cheaper option than actually buying a Vita to enjoy its games. If it's pointless like you say then it won't sell. Who knows. Time will tell.

Yep3872d ago

While I disagree with the convenience point (it really isn't hard to put your system in a suit case or even a bag and bring it with you on vacation. I just did it with my Wii U a couple days ago.), you make a good point in your second paragraph. Hopefully this things sells well enough to make the increase in software sales worthwhile.

Death3872d ago

They don't need to scrap the Vita, they just need to make more games that show what the Vita can do instead of ports. It's a great device that Sony is really missing the market on.

Yep3872d ago

More games is something I can agree with.

TimeSkipLuffy3872d ago

for that to happen they need to sell more vita units. Vita TtV could do the trick

Death3872d ago

VitaTv isn't compatable with Vita games that actually utiize the Vita's features like the touch on the back of the unit or the touch screen. Comes with the Dualshock 3 and not 4 either so I'd like to know how remote play with the PS4 is affected.

OrangePowerz3872d ago

Look at it from this way. I'm often away and sometimes several weeks but I dont like giving up gaming during that time. With thr Vita TV I can potentially only pack that tiny device and a DualShock and play my PS4 games on a tv when I'm away from home.

Its less hassle compared to taking my normal home console with me as it is a lot smaller and less likely to break.

Yep3872d ago

Is it really worth the extra cost though?

OrangePowerz3872d ago

I rather spend 100 bucks on the Vita TV and take that with me, especially for when I travel by plane as I usually have anyway a full backpack with me in case the luggage get`s lost (not uncommon) and the laptop bag. Given how often my luggage got lost so far (always got it back some time later) I wouldn`t want to put my console in there for that reason and that the bag might not be treated very well.

Campy da Camper3872d ago

I have a 55 LED in my living room. This is where my ps3 is and where my ps4 will go. Every night I want to lay down and keep gaming in bed on my 44" plasma but I'dhave to unhook the unit and hook it up in the bedroom. Then the next day unhook it from plasma and hook back up in living room. This device will eliminate that process. That, to me, is worth $100.00

Darrius Cole3872d ago

I disagree with you here on almost every point. You mentioned

1. Confusion between PSV, PSVita new model, PSVTV
2. Resolution
3. True portability
4. Having an actual market

1. Its's a simple question of screen. If you want a portable screen by the PSV or the PSV(new model name). If you don't need a portable screen you can buy the PSVTV and save yourself some money.

2. 480p is 480 x 720 = 345,600 pixels
720p is 720 x 1280 = 921,600
A PSVita screen is 960 x 544 = 522,240

So, a Vita screen is a little more than half of 720p and 1 and half time 480p. I think that is plenty of resolution, especially, for people who know that they are playing Vita games. Lots of people watch standard def content on their HDTVs now.

3. True portability - First, I don't think it is designed for people who want to take their games with them and don't have a Vita. Second, and more importantly, I think it adds to the appeal of the Vita. If you have Vita, you may not want to be looking at that small screen while you are at home.

4. This turns the Vita into a $100 home console, and it extends your PS4 to a second screen. That is two major markets right there. If you have a PS4 and 2 tv's you probably need one. If you only have $100 and want a console or want to buy one for a kid etc. That is another market.

I think this is a master stroke by Sony.

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OC_MurphysLaw3872d ago

I think the PS4 feature sounds interesting... but wonder about latency with anything like this kind of tech.

iamnsuperman3872d ago (Edited 3872d ago )

in the home it should be unnoticeable. Remote play (as it is right now with PS3 and Vita remote play) has unnoticeable latency within your own Wifi (it has to have some but I didn't notice any). I am unsure about it outside your home network which is wear a problem may lie (depends on network speeds)

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies12d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken12d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga12d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken12d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12512d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91312d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher12d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher12d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken12d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder12d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades18d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken18d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades17d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii17d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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