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Nintendo and the Wii U should not be underestimated

The Nintendo Wii U has been hit with a lot of criticism lately. Deservedly so? Maybe. But one thing is clear: the Wii U has an exciting future.

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jhoward5853877d ago

In some sense I agree with this article. Nintendo and the Wii U should not be underestimated.

Nintendo is the only company in the world that can make people buy their gaming console for one game.

I'm really excited to see what the next metroid and Zelda game look like.

BullyMangler3877d ago

sony got me too with the Last Guardian, had to get a ps3 just for. and here I am waiting 4 years later :/

jhoward5853877d ago

yeah,the 5 years wait has definitely made my expectation grew 10 folds.
I Can't wait to play it.

LordDhampire3876d ago

lol I forgot about last guardian....

But man nintendo hasn't really been underestimated.....they haven't anything

I don't really think anyone cares about nintendo

nintendo fanboys kinda do there own thing their is no point to post articles about nintendo because if your not a nintendo fan you don't care and if you are a nintendo fan you probably are the one posting the article

Ritsujun3876d ago (Edited 3876d ago )

Yeah, don't underestimate Nintendawg and Wii duUum.

soultecc3876d ago (Edited 3876d ago )

so you buy a ps3 for the guardian and now it wont come to the ps3 lol. thats sony far ya full of false promises. same thing with ff verses

UltimateMaster3876d ago

I actually like the touchscreen controller.
But I really hope they get a battery that last over 5 hours instead of 2....

Nevers0ft3876d ago

lol, I thought I was the only one! TLG was *the* game that would make me buy a PS3 (I loved Ico and Shadow of the Colossus)... Suffice to say, I still don't own one :/

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PSVita3876d ago

I disagree. It's the over older people that are attached to games like Mario and Zelda. Kids growing up now will be more likly to go for COD, GTA, AC etc.... Don't get me wrong Nintendos games are fantastic but they're stuck in the past. The WiiU/N can't survive on on the old exclusive anymore. They MUST have 3rd party support, which they're not getting right now. Once again THEY CAN'T SURVIVE ON THEY'RE OLD EXCULSIVE ANYMORE.

FarginIcehole3876d ago

They certainly need 3rd party support, but I disagree with the idea that kids today will more likely go for CoD, GTA, AC etc... Everyone thought the same thing with Doom, but many have moved on and it will be the same with those franchises. They will still have tons of fans...don't get me wrong, but those games just don't carry the fanfare of a classic Mario game and how could they? They release a new one every single year. They might as well call it CoD 2014 for next years release.

Thatguy-3103876d ago

is that so? How come the other past consoles before the wii didn't prove your statement? wii was a success because of the new demographic that was introduce to gaming consoles. You won't be seeing it no more because they moved to their phones and tablets. The franchises could only push the hardware so far. It needs a lot more if it wants to compete with Sony and Microsoft this time around.

jhoward5853876d ago (Edited 3876d ago )

@dboyc310

I agree that the Wii was the beginning of something new.
But one things I know about most gamers they always want to go back in to past and reminisce about games that got them in to video games in the first place.

Mario/Zelda/metroid will never be forgotten.

stuna13876d ago

I don't the WII U has been Under-estimated! Just Under-advertised. I think it's pretty obvious that the WII U is capable of some jaw dropping games, inventive ways of gameplay among other things, but that will come to nought if Nintendo doesn't fine tune their advertising of the system! They need to stop assuming people know what it is they want, and show them why it is they want the WII U.

jhoward5853876d ago

Under-advertised is one of the reasons why Nintendo is failing, but the main problem here is Nintendo don't have enough games out for the Wii U. but that won't be enough to keep gamers away from wanting to play Nintendo aaa titles.

My bet is Zelda is going to be a masterpiece and most gamers will run to the store and buy a wii U just to play Zelda. Thats power!

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Cyb3r3877d ago

How do you think I feel Im still waiting for a FF7 remake

Pillsbury13876d ago

Nintendo has the games that people cannot play anywhere else.

sashimi3876d ago

Thanks for stating the obvious -_- This is the console business of course platform holders have games that people cannot play elsewhere, how else are they suppose to sell hardware >.>

Nintendo will be fine regardless if anything the handheld side can always make up for the home console side.

Pillsbury13876d ago

Of course it's the obvious *_* but SOME people seem to still think Nintendo is going to go the way of the dodo. Not gonna happen people. I grew up with super Mario, Zelda and donkey kong and although I don't own a wii u (owned a wii) I realize there will always be a market for them.

arbitor3653876d ago

its hard to underestimate a console thats a fourth as powerful as its competitors

http://m.ign.com/wikis/xbox...

jcnba283876d ago

Yes because the console with the most power has always been the most successful.

/s

Why don't you compare Vita hardware to 3DS hardware? Oh wait that's right because 3DS is destroying it in sales.

The_Villager3876d ago

Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 yet the PS3 won their gen.

PS3 was much more powerful than the Wii yet the Wii still won last gen.

Power doesn't define success.

AJBACK2FRAG3876d ago

Power and price alone can help us to determine which video game console has the best chance for winning it's perspective generation. Example. The Wii Won last console cycle it was the least powerful and least expensive. The home video game console that won the the generation before? The PS2. It was the least powerful video game console and, holy cow! It won it's generation etc.

AJBACK2FRAG3876d ago

That's one of the reasons the Wii U will win this eighth generation of video game console's! The Wii U will be the cheapest and least powerful. History tells us this is a win win situation for the Wii U. Well see you in five or six years guys better luck next time!

rambi803876d ago

they drop the tablet and hit 200 then yeah,they have a chance. They also need to revise their drm for digital sales and software pricing in general. they just announced a price drop for mario galaxy 2 after i bought max payne for $8 on psn

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.