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Sony Continues To Suffer from Twitter Fallout following PS4 Language Announcement

Yesterday, Sony announced that it would not support Arabic text in the PS4. This announcement stirred up trouble on twitter. The ire of people wanting Arabic support has followed Sony into today, and if the past is any indication, the company won't stop receiving the request until Arabic text becomes supported.

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grumpc3885d ago

guess I'll just have to make do with english, damn, was looking forward to arabic...

xHeavYx3885d ago

I guess you can't be too worried if the biggest complaint your company has is not supporting the Arabic language

black0o3885d ago

as an arabian i'd luv to see the OS support it, but by the end of the day most of us luv to keep the English as the main language ''localizations sucks most of the time"

and this fuzz isnt new there are forms that were demanding this for along time for ps3/vita

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MWong3884d ago

If this is the only thing Sony has to worry about at launch I'm cool with that. Sony said it will address the issue anyways.

minimur123884d ago

To be honest, being as Arabic is backwards, wouldn't it be pretty hard to successfully doing it without making it look a bit weird?

It is arabic that's backwards (for us) isn't it?

b163o13884d ago

@6yo

Completely uncalled for, comments like that suggest that you have the mind of a six year old (6yo). I hate immature people on this site...

Orange3884d ago

@6yo

Way to make westerners look like a-holes. How would you like death being rained on your suburban sh*thole?

If anything, the misery over there makes escapism even more important.

Mounce3884d ago

@HeavY - Well, apparently not including Arabic is making Sony 'Suffer' more than anything else.

I'd love to read such sensationalist, exaggerated news stories on how Not allowing 8 controllers makes Sony 'Suffer', and PSN+ Being mandatory for the most part makes Sony also 'Suffer'...

This is trivial, but inconvenient news to those who ONLY speak Arabic buuuut....to use the word 'Suffer' is just idiotic imho

MazzingerZ3884d ago

It does support for instance Swedish but when I need to google about a setting I need to switch to English to google the english word as for the swedish one I barely get some hits

When I game on my PS3 I use English as system language on the other hand when my kids use it I switch to Swedish, so that support is very convenient when you have small kids that want to play some LBP without me needing to be there letting them know where the games menu is

But who knows, maybe the new UI is easier to navigate for kids regardless of system language, they just want to find their game, don't care about the rest of the options.

I am just happy PS4 is releasing in my country dayone

DAS6923884d ago

...The fuck is Arabic?

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fardan853885d ago

Well, It doesn't personally bother me for not having Arabic lang on ps4 but I kinda feel bad for gamers who can't speak Eng.
Ps4 should support Arabic language.

harbie3885d ago

None of the games will, who the hell cares if the menus are in Arabic?! Stupid.

Ittoryu3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

not to mention the system isn't even available in Arabic countries there pissed because they won't be able to buy boot leg copies, that's all the SOB buy anyway.

Shake_Zula3885d ago

Just to explain, it's a programming issue with PS4's FreeBSD core or even the database backend that runs everything. Basically, most languages that contain non-UTF8 characters have a UTF-8 equivalent. Japanese Kanji correlating Romanji is a good example. Arabic is one of the languages that only uses one character set, and it isn't UTF-8.

To be fair, MS's Windows can't even do it all the way, and at most times it is sloppy. The fact of the matter is that while spoken languages should be treated equally, most programming languages were developed in the US meaning that the UTF-8 standard is needed 90% of the time.

indysurfn3885d ago

@shake_zula that was one of the most accurate and well thought out messages on this thread. I think the reason you only have one like so far(me) is people are not knowledgeable enough about programming and languages. I'm here to second your comment!

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3884d ago

Most Arabic speaking places happen to be English spoken/written places as well. In other words, for most of them, it's a matter of preference, not necessity. And given that Arabic localization isn't exactly in heavy support, it becomes even more of a moot point since most of them play their games in English anyway.

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Eonjay3885d ago

This is good though. I like that people are taking to twitter to take their concerns directly to the company. Hopefully, they will get Arabic support. My only question is, will the PS4 even be available in Arabic countries at launch? If so, they should definitely have this feature.

black0o3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

yes it's .. 399€ since ME is R2, and virgin megastore and others start taking preorders right after E3

Eddie201013885d ago

PS3 didn't have Arobic language support and nothing was ever heard or said bout it, but now that it's PS4 and its doing better than the xbox one there a lot being said about it.

I understand that there are people concerned about this but i would bet tht the majority of complaints are coming from Xbots trolling. Desperate.

maddskull3884d ago

i wouldnt say that. I am an arabic person but i dont need that feature but others need it their are many arabs that need arabic support and i would like that because it would be an improvement in the arabic gaming community and sometimes when i send messages to my friend i prefer if i could write in arabic and many big games are making full arabic support PES, Tomb raider, Rayma, FIFA, AC4, and other games because they know that the arabic gaming community is big

Eddie201013884d ago

Xbox 360 doesn't have Arabic language support PS3 doesn't have it and there was not a big uproar about it until it was confirmed that the PS4 will not have it at launch, probably because it is not releasing in Arabic countries at launch.

But Sony did confirm that they are working on adding Arabic support.

But we are still getting this nonsense
about it.

I hope it is added soon for the Arab speaking people but I still find it hard to believe that all the commotion over this issue is coming from Arabic speaking people and not from people with a cirtian interest adding there two cents worth.

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ALLWRONG3884d ago

So the millions of people who speak Arabic get screwed?

kane_13713884d ago

Arabic is not the onlyl language so chill and don't play the role of victim

ALLWRONG3884d ago

It's called "roll reversal" or I like to call it "karma"

Orange3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

@iMixMasTer872 doesn't mean you can't make yourself heard.

malol3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Arabs have always asked for this but never got it.

PS3,2,1 didn't have Arabic and most likly never well

xbox1,360,one never have and never well, no console ever had Arabic and most likely also never well

as a native Arabic speaker as much as this is saddening to know but this is a fact we'll have to live with

showtimefolks3884d ago

english is fine as it was with ps3, some people will complain no matter what

Consoldtobots3884d ago

sounds like something for Arabs to worry about, personally I couldn't give two ......

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DialgaMarine3885d ago

Yoshida already hinted at it coming eventually. Probably just not a Day 1 thing because the system isn't launching in Arabic countries Day 1. PS3 had Arabic text. No reason why PS4 won't get it.

But since I'm in before the Xbots... ZOMG! Teh Sony PoS4 is doooooooooomed!!!

theWB273885d ago

Seriously, I don't understand why the Sony camp thinks about the X1 more than the PS4. On second thought, I do.

Really, that's the Sony camp who pretends the X1 is going to fall on its face and sell abysmal numbers causing Microsoft to pull the X1 off shelves in 3 months because the awesometasticfantabulous ultraearthshatteringpower of the GGDD44R6 ram is too much and everyone will gravitate towards the PS4 and it'll concur humankindzzz.

The Xcamp usually just brings you guys back down to earth, tell you it's not that much better, then go back and appreciate what Microsoft is trying to do.

Tony-A3885d ago

That's cute. You just described exactly what PS3 fanboys were doing back in the early days of this generation.

Don't be too surprised about it, kid. They're just returning the favor for those that did the same to them. It's better they do it now than when the XBO is actually out and doing its own thing, don't you think? Up until then, it's just pre-game trash talk.

GenericNameHere3885d ago

Lolz what? I don't remember specifically who it was, but I seem to remember reading several Xbots here commenting, saying how there's so much Xbone hate because the PS fanboys are horrible and control the gaming media! Every small bad article about Xbone, and the fanboys come in, cry, and pretend they're the victims against the tyranny of Mark "Hitler" Cerny and Kaz "Lucifer" Hirai!

NOW you're saying "Xcamp usually just brings you guys back down to earth"? That's very hyprocritical, especially coming from you Xbots.

Anyways, rant aside, I hope Arabic gets added as language ASAP. Wouldnt want to miss out on potential sales, no matter how big or small the impact is.

CGI-Quality3885d ago

Your problem is you take this console war stuff just as serious as the people you're calling out. Thus, you're no better.

OT: I'm sure this will be sorted. If it's the worst thing to happen to the PS4, I think it will be fine.

MysticStrummer3885d ago

"I don't understand why the Sony camp thinks about the X1 more than the PS4."

...said the MS fan commenting on a PS4 article.

You might understand it once you realize it's wishful thinking on your part. What's going on right now is just the mirror image of the pre-PS3/360 days, except then it was MS fans doing most of the hating.

How can the Xcamp bring anyone down to earth when they're falling for all the pie in the sky marketing BS MS can churn out?

KwietStorm_BLM3885d ago

And what exactly are you doing right now, in this particular PS4 article? Just camping out?

theWB273885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

@CGI-Q
Yes, I take the war so seriously it prevented me from owning a PS3 and liking anything Sony related.

N4G has me in such a rage Im boycotting the PS4. Uh..no. It's still fun to see you guys in such a tizzy.

@MysticStrummer
I don't have any problem commenting on Sony articles, even being a Xbox fan. I supported Sony this whole gen owning a PS3 and buying their games and still plan on the same next gen.

You guys give yourself too much credit.

@KwietStorm
Is there a rule somewhere stating I can't enter Sony articles? I read both news...I go after Sony fans online, enjoy their games in real life. Easy stuff...

xHeavYx
See that's the beautiful part about this all, I don't have to explain why I want to spend an extra 100 bucks on an X1.

Whiny Boy...it's whatever makes you feel better ; )

xHeavYx3885d ago

Wow, theWB ( whiny boy?) just got a nomination for l amest comment.
Come back when you can explain why you have to pay an extra $100 for a weaker gaming machine from a company that is known for abandoning their hardcore community.
I think you are too high on the clouds (lil pun)

MysticStrummer3885d ago

"I don't have any problem commenting on Sony articles, even being a Xbox fan. I supported Sony this whole gen owning a PS3 and buying their games and still plan on the same next gen."

I don't have a problem with you commenting in PS4 articles either, even if you never bought a Sony console in your life, but your assertion that the "Sony camp" thinks about the XB1 more than the PS4 is just comical.

N4G has articles about every platform, and anyone can comment on them whether or not they use a particular system. It doesn't mean they're obsessing over that system. It means they're a gamer with an opinion about a gaming platform.

Hicken3885d ago

Why are you so full of yourself?

You seem to believe you have some special insight into a group whose members you've created yourself, but you really just come off like a hypocrite. You're extremely quick to call someone with a different opinion a Sony fanboy in an Xbox article, but- like all your predecessors like MikeMyers- you never call out your compatriots for doing the same thing.

Whether you think someone's a fanboy or not, they can express their opinion on whatever article they please, just as you do.

If you can't stand em, there are other gaming-related sites out there. Nobody's forcing you to stay here.

trafalger3885d ago

"you never call out your compatriots for doing the same thing"

hilarious

TomShoe3884d ago

Generic fanboyism at its finest.

JackBNimble3884d ago

@ theWB27

So you want to play console war eh? That's fine , but why would you pick this particular article to voice your childish rant? I am sure there are plenty of " 5 reasons PS4 is better" articles to troll ... isn't there?

Odd ... very odd.

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maddskull3884d ago

actually it is coming to Arabic countries in day 1 i live in 1 and it will come to arabic countries just ike Europe

PirateKing3885d ago

They will add it at a later time if the demand for it is high enough, not even that big of a deal.

Shake_Zula3885d ago

Nah, don't think so unless they switch up the core programming language. Neither PS3 nor 360 doesn't have it either.

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox...

It's just an extremely hard language to program for because of the character set.

Tony-A3885d ago

Just what I was thinking. Apparently this is the kind of "bad news" Sony has to deal with. They're pretty lucky considering this will be taken care of with a simple update down the line.

Nintendo has to deal with the masses saying Wii U is doomed to low sales figures and you got everyone trashing just about every aspect of the XBO. I'd say this is about the best "bad news" a company can get.

MizTv3885d ago

As long as its in English I'm happy

OrangePowerz3885d ago

Especially since probably 99% of the games will be in English as it is now. :)

I fully support that people want to have something in their own language. Probably the bigger issue would be most games not being in Arabic as they have more text and can be far more difficult to get through if you don`t understand the language, compared to an OS that has little text.

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt3885d ago

who cares.. just delete that arabic language

Thehyph3885d ago

Yeah..... and let's go back to Roman numerals as well... not.

Jihaad_cpt3885d ago

maybe they can delete America? Or just his family or gene pool either or would be great

Consoldtobots3884d ago

and someone calling himself "jihaad captain" saying delete America isn't equally offensive?

you ppl get no pity from me, live by the sword die by it.

Jihaad_cpt3883d ago

@consoldtobots I never said it's less offensive or more. I was merely showing that stating opinions can be offensive. Firstly I happen to be very moderate, America is a great country despite it's morally bankrupt attitude to the world. The next thing my name is clearly not understood, Jihaad meaning struggle and cpt being the abbreviation of my home town Cape Town. I don't care about receiving your pity I dont require it. Just educate yourself. My opinion shouldnt bother you any more than his bothered me

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot13h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke197h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke193h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot53m ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf4h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor6h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave5h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor3h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot50m ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke193h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai5h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris4h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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