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Opinion: Why the PS4 controller is better than the Xbox One controller

Nick Bristow of ThriftyNerd says, "If you just used one or the other, you will be completely satisfied, but when you pick up the Xbox One controller, quickly followed by the Dual Shock 4, it's immediately noticeable how good the DS4 feels in your hands. The DS4 has finally given up its baggage of past controller design and moved on to something spectacular. And that's really my point here, it's not that Microsoft has screwed up, it's that Sony has created something awesome. These two controllers are very different and I will need to spend a lot more time with them to see if my opinion changes, but at the moment, I’m giving it to Sony."

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user74029313888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

1. touchpad

2. speakers

3. better analog sticks.( they dont slip like xbox ones )

4. the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings.

5. better triggers

6. better cosmetic look.

7. no aa batteries

8. move compatibility

9. grip on bottom

10. recharges while your away.

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isarai3888d ago

Numbers 3, 4, 5, and 6 are more personal taste honestlly.

@xJumpManx

You're grasping at straws man. Touchpads a "sstupid novelty"? i guess that's why 99% of cell phones, and 100% of tablets and laptops are controlled by this "sstupid novelty" and again most of what you posted is purely personal taste. Honestly don't see how AA battery standard is a pro, i guess it would be a pro if every laptop and smartphone ran off AA's standard aswell than too right? Also not sure if you heard but the Dualshock 4 also has greatly improved rumble, they just aren't making a big deal about it.

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edgeofsins3888d ago

@xJumpManx

Yes, these mythical "other console controllers" copied the the "360 style" that is a far more direct copy of the Dreamcast controller. It's "generally" accepted in what group you are talking about. I see far more people here that like the DS3 more.

The only thing you have is an opinion on the controller comfort. Which, by the way, I am not talking about the thumbsticks, that is not ergonomic at all or what enhances gameplay and makes it "professional".

That's cool, while you went to the store to stock up on batteries or get a play and charge kit I had a controller recharge for free. The only reason you go on about the "convenience" is because it is one of the few little excuses you have to hold on to. You can like it more, but quit debating it. The DS3 is technically more advanced, designed to be better suited for more sizes and hand shapes, and the dpad is actually good. Most people thinking that it feels uncomfortable just grip the controller way to tight and claw their fingers around it like they are strangling it. I have big hands and never has the controller felt too small.

Benchm4rk3888d ago

@edgeofsins

"I see far more people here that like the ds3 more"

You don't say. More people on n4g prefer a Sony controller over the 360 one. Why should we be surprised. I think you should take a look at the MLG pro controller. Looks awfully familiar to the 360 controller. I wonder why that would be. Maybe because outside of this website is a big wide world where not everybody is a Sony fanboy

Petro3887d ago

@Benchm4rk Surprise, take a look at the PS3 variant. There are waaaaaaaaaaay more copies of PlayStation controllers than there are of Xbox controllers. ;) http://www4.pcmag.com/media...

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GusBricker3888d ago

Speakers? Really?

If there anything like the Wii's, f*ck that.

JackOfAllBlades3888d ago

Don't be an ignorant prick, I mean come on, can the Xbox One controller output in game audio from the controller? The Dualshock 4 can. And you just wish you had speakers and cool features and all you get is a "day one" sticker, oh yay!! I love me some stickers for the more expensive and inferior console!! "But..BBut.. it is worth 100 more... Microsoft said so.. And Mmicrosoft never lies.." Yeah enjoy your 100 dollar sticker and inferior console, good day sir

laijka3888d ago

@Rowdius_Maximus
Overreact much?

He didn't even mention the X1 controller or MS.
All he said that if the speakers are of the same quality(or lack thereof) as the Wii speakers then "fuck that".

If anything your reaction reeks of inferiority complex. What is it you fear so much about the X1 and its controller that you feel the need to rage over it in reply of a comment that doesn't even mention it?

mcstorm3888d ago

Lol Wow so its now my controller is better than yours this week. The controller that is best for me is the one that fits my hands the best. Last gen it was the 360 because I have big hands and the DS3 gives me cramp after using it for an hour or so. That said I really could not care less the controller is no the reason why I am getting a Xbox one and PS4 and was not the reason I got a Wiiu. The reason for me getting them is they all have games I want.

showtimefolks3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

everyone who i know who have played around with ps4 controllers say they loved it

bigger over controller
more comfortable grip
better analog sticks
the triggers for racing/shooters

i want to try to the speakers

i think being able to charge your controller while you are away is also a nice touch

I am just glad that sony kept the basic of dual shock the same

xJumpManx

better placement of analog sticks really? that's personal likability to me but i guess to each their own

Xsilver3888d ago

DS4 the analog placement is the best because its good for shooters and it puts the D pad insync so its also good for fighters

ABeastNamedTariq3888d ago

@X

That second part is why I don't like to play fighters on Xbox. I like having the d-pad and face buttons on the same level. It feels better to me. Not even with the improved d-pad will I buy a fighter on XB1. It feels way too uncomfortable for me. But that's just my ol' preference.

Xsilver3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

its like people forget about other genres.

JackOfAllBlades3888d ago

@Tariq And because the Xbox 360 D-Pad was so jank, I mean it was so clunky, was just a big piece of plastic while the PS3's had separate buttons. The Xbox One controller is probably a little better about that but I think the DS4 will still be superior.

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stage883888d ago

@DirtyPimp

Nailed it. Can't wait to try out the DS4 perfection.

YNWA963888d ago

Dualshock 4 might even get close to 360 controller I heard....

Angeljuice3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

@YNWA96
I can show you 6 or 7 articles stating that the DS4 is better than X1 controller, can't find a single one stating the opposite.

Both are apparently better than the 360 controller, so don't worry too much, you'll still be getting a good controller (nothing wrong with playing second fiddle).

Even die-hard Xbox fans say DS4 is better (the ones who have actually used one that is).

Just drop it, you're fighting a losing battle, except defeat with grace and charm, rather than a hissy denial.

keyz15793888d ago

I have noticed that on here there are way more Sony fans than Microsoft so no matter what they do weather its a positive change a game packed anything you guys will criticize it and tear it apart

Angeljuice3888d ago

Well you tend to get "way more fans" of a superior product. That's how the world works.

AJ Hartley3887d ago

Yeh like he said fan boys or not superiority generally gets the votes I mean all the bad media on xbone who would want to get one , so they can shaft you again?

Belking3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

1. touchpad ( not innovative Nintendo already has it)

2. speakers ( not innovative Nintendo already has it)

3. better analog sticks.( they dont slip like xbox ones ) (...lol really now)

4. the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings. ( Bs, they a re placed there because they are stuck with that design they have nowhere else to move them)

5. better triggers ( bs, they copied off Xbox..... Xbox has rumble triggers they don't)
g
6. better cosmetic look. ( not even close)

7. no aa batteries ( because they know touch pad would eat up battery life... They had no choice)

8. move compatibility ( yep, no innovation..)

9. grip on bottom ( no big deal)

10. recharges while your away.( welcome to the. 1990s)

All they did was add touchpad, speakers and copied triggers. It's basically the same old ds3.

GravelerMagnitude93888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

Nothing but your opinion.

7. So you say sony will go from having a rechargable battery on ps3 to AA on ps4

You say no innovation, wow

so adding extra input for controls, controller grip lengthening, improved analog and more doesn't help. ok

I guess xbox one has tons of innovative features like AA batteries

belking you are quite a person

NeXXXuS3888d ago

I doubt the speaker on the control will be for silly sound effects like the wii remote was.

BoriboyShoGUN3888d ago

Typical post from Belking!!! Why do people have to be mindless fanboys. These guys act like if you agree that the competition is doing something good your going to burst into flames!! Everyone that has felt or used the DS4 saids its awesome!!
1. Touchpad - its Sony they'll do something cool with it
2. D Pad- Sony has had the best Dpad since PS 1!
3. AA Batteries- Really XBOX guys come on give this one up! (youre drunk)
4. Analog sticks- We shall see never minded the old 360 or DS3 analogs. But the DS4's do look like they'll be good.
I could go on for days but its pointless anywayz.

ABeastNamedTariq3888d ago

Grip on the bottom is a huge deal for me. If it makes the controller easier and more comfortable to hold, I'm all for it. It's reducing slipperiness, how is that not a big deal? Oh yeah, you're you, that's why, lol.

LiinoMajire3888d ago

This XBOT with down syndrome just never gives up does it? LOL.

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3-4-53888d ago

uhh.

PS3's sticks are floaty and HORRIBLE for sports games and FPS games.

At least 360's snapped back to center.

PS1 originally had a good controller.

They ruined it, and now are finally making it really good again.

Hicken3888d ago

... using a DS3 right now, and there's NO float involved. What's more, there's far less dead zone than in the 360 sticks. Which makes them better for more precise motions, like you'd need in FPS and sports games.

And lookathat! The DS3's analog sticks go right back to center when I release em!

moparful993888d ago

Horrible for FPS'? Hmm then how is it that my KDR is far better in my PS3 version of my call of duty games than in the 360 version? I'm sorry but I love the DS3 especially for shooters but when I want to play something that isn't a shooter my DS3 walks alllll over the 360 pad..

SpecialSauce3888d ago

Xbox One controller still doesn't have any motion features.. or a proper name, "xbox one controller"

Sony's creation allows for SO many more possibilities of controls: buttons with motion with touchpad

THAT controller deserves a name.

palaeomerus3888d ago

Motion control on Sixaxis and DS3 was a rarely used joke though. Shake off the zombies. Guide the batarang. Yay. I'd never miss it. I don't know about the touch-pad. It seems dumb but might be good for a diablo-style inventory or something.

I have an 0pen mind about it. And the shape of the DS4 looks a lot more comfortable in the hand that the DS3 was. I have preordered both so we'll see.

SpecialSauce3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

@palaeomerus

rag doll kung fu made excellent use of it, in fact it was essential to the game and made it great. if that happens even with one or 2 or 3 games; its worth it especially if they're real hit games. i think the fact that the touchpad is physical/sitting there glaring at devs they might pay more attention to it and find ways of implementing it so that it enhances the experience and doesn't just serve as a new method of doing something which more conventional means could have accomplished just as uneventfully

moparful993888d ago

Using the Sixaxis control in Warhawk proved it was a great feature that was poorly implemented by most devs.. I absolutely loved playing warhawk with sixaxis and wish more games would take advantage of it..

Bathyj3888d ago

the dualshock 4 analog sticks are placed right and left for human beings.

Brilliant

http://www.google.com.au/se...

listenkids3888d ago

@xJumpManX

"you should not have to pick your hand off the analog pads"

Really? How does one play any game ever made.

andibandit3888d ago

@DirtyPimp

7. no aa batteries

Im assuming you actually mean the battery isnt in the way when holding the controller.
The actual built in battery, is more expensive to replace when it breaks or when higher mAh batteries become available.

b00mFargl33887d ago

all of your reasons besides the AA batteries and recharging are invalid.

"The sticks are placed right and left for human beings"

There isn't a controller that exists that i know where they aren't placed on the right and left. Although xbox my swap the positions of the D-Pad to make it easier to use the stick and the D-pad. they are still placed right and left.

and dont forget. Move is a piece of shit. Why they are still trying to use that technology makes no sense. Enjoy your night light while you play.

What a horrible argument.

ceed9113887d ago

speakers? Because often I complain that my television's sound sucks so I need my controller to make noise.

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Pantstuff3888d ago

I was going for more of a "how does it feel to use" approach rather than a feature comparison.

user74029313888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

"If you just used one or the other, you will be completely satisfied, but when you pick up the Xbox One controller, quickly followed by the Dual Shock 4, it's immediately noticeable how good the DS4 feels in your hands.''

I recall how great the triggers felt myself, and with all that tech i was kind of thinking it would feel claustrophobic but it didnt. and when i navigabled the ds4 it was seemless. those are my ''feel'' impressions.

Majin-vegeta3888d ago

I just want it in my hands already.

-Foxtrot3888d ago

I kind of all DS controllers to be better then the ones on other consoles to be honest. The DS controller for me is an all rounder controller great for a variety of games with different genres. The Xbox 360 controller for example is only better for FPS in my opinion. I mean I'm not saying the DS3 or any other DS didn't have it's faults but they were still better in my opinion. You get these people though that said the DS was too small but to be honest that came out of no where since no one complained about it being too "small" back when the PS1 came out or even the PS2.

Shame Nintendo with the Wii U didn't have a updated gamecube style one for it's main controller

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere7h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN4h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos2h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger4h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto6h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos6h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long3h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator4h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg8h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos7h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola3h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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