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Kamiya Doesn't Think Bayonetta 3 Will Ever Happen, But Is Open To Okami Sequel

Bayonetta 2 isn't even out yet, but poor old Hideki Kamiya is already being forced to think possible sequels. Speaking to 4Gamers, he was asked about creating games based on existing IPs, and gave the following reply:

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awesomeabe19983885d ago

Most likely. I never played Okami so I dont really know what the game is but if people liked it then Platinum should make it Wii U exclusive. Oh and the reason I think it will be Wii U exclusive is because Kamiya said that he would love Platinum to be owned by Nintendo ( I always forget that word that means to be owned by a gaming company).

LOL_WUT3885d ago

Nintendo should make it an exclusive ;)

gillri3884d ago

never played Okami? Its better than Many Zelda games

DeletedAcc3884d ago

Okami sequel on playstation

They know it will sell better on ps4 and its easier to develop

Venoxn4g3884d ago

ya, Okami sold better than on Wii.. actually sales on Wii are much better :) anyway I welcome it on any platform..

and please, pleasy Kamiya, make a God Hand 2.. I love that game and Viewtiful joe 3

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wanieldiik3884d ago

@J-blaze unless you can provide a source for the poor sales you're just talking out of your ass

LonDonE3884d ago

Okami on the game pads touch screen would be perfect, seriously if nintendo bought platinum that would be awesome! since playing bayonetta most action games combat just feel too simple and easy, bayonetta is bat shit crazy and i LOVE IT! cant wait for bayonetta 2, that's one game which will most likely never leave my wii u drive!!

I wish konami would get off their ass and release metal gear rising on wii u, hell mgs games never sell well on xbox, so why cant they release it on a nintendo console instead?
platinum games always put rock solid game play first, and frame rate too, granted the PS3 version of bayonetta wasn't good compared to the xbox version, but sega ported that, not platinum, either way after the patch the ps3 version plays fine now!

Kamiya has said again and again that he wants to make a star fox game, and that he would love to be nintendo only or if nintendo owned them, so why has nintendo missed all this?
seriously the guy and his team are awesome and have made some of the best critically acclaimed games around, why don't nintendo snap them up?
They have billions in cash reserves, they could do with a few more development studios under their belt, that way those long droughts wouldn't be a problem!!

DeletedAcc3884d ago

J-blaze:
I hope u know that okami started on PLAYSTATION

u should wait for your zelda wich still doesnt grow up like other nintendo games
And now answer with your last bubble

PSNintyGamer3884d ago

@sackboyboy305 so what if it started on Playstation? Third Party Exclusive games jump all the time

kreate3884d ago

' so what if it started on Playstation? Third Party Exclusive games jump all the time'

If it started on playstation, than there should be some fans on the playstation group.

Like if gears 4 was released on ps4, there still should be some fans on the xbox side.

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Tei7773884d ago

The Wii U, PS4 and PSVita would all be great platforms for Okami 2.

Deadpoolio3884d ago

Nothing will ever really stay a Wii U exclusive keep those delusions going....Remember when Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's edge was a Wii U exclusive and wasn't going anywhere...How did that work out again? Unless it suddenly becomes crazy profitable which it wont CAPCOM the owners of the IP wont make anything exclusive

ritsuka6663883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Just look for the agrees of first post man... this is getting annoying people, in all articles of Nintendo haters coming for troling.

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awesomeabe19983885d ago

Everyone HELP TREND #NINTENDOFPSFORWIIU on Twitter SO NINTENDO CAN MAKE A WII U FPS!!!!!

R00bot3884d ago

An FPS made by Nintendo could be great.

But they've got Metroid, and they could add in FPS multiplayer in it (the prime games are more adventure than FPS).

miyamoto3884d ago

... and spoil their clean kiddie friendly image? nope. Ninty will never get their hands dirty with that. Metroid is as far as they would go.

Fierce Musashi3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

If that was ever was the case, they wouln't have released or be bothering with games such as the Fire Emblem franchise (and it's upcoming collaboration with Shin Megami), Xenoblade (along with X), Bayonetta 2, etc. Consider it spoiled.

Hell, even the latest Zelda's prologue that told of the Ancient Battle wasn't all that "kiddie friendly".... nor was Demise's story or Ghirahim himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

reploidmega3884d ago

And yet they've bought and paid for every last sexually aggressive little curve of Bayonetta 2.
Gee, I'm sure little 7-year-old Timmy's parents are really going to love getting THAT game for him!
Oh, wait...

Concertoine3884d ago

Anyone else remember that creative fps nintendo published way back on the gamecube?? I remember it flopped but it was a good game and rated m.

WPX3884d ago

@Concertoine

I think you mean Geist. As you say, sadly, It didn't sell well but it was a very good game.
Not sure if it was N-Space who made it back then.

miyamoto3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

LoL at disagrees. Nintendo will pay 3 rd party devs & pubs to so it for for them but their 1st party wont or cant.
Even Metroid fps debelopment were outsourced.

I reckon Iwata really wanted a piece of HD CoD and BF money hence the move to HD

But it did not work out well for Ninty.

PS at musashi

you call Fire Emblem mature gaming?
get back at me when I see a hame as ultra violent God of War III on Wii U.

WPX3884d ago

yeah, the Metroid deVelopment was outsourced to an studio WHOLLY owned by them, Retro Studios.

miyamoto3884d ago

LoL at disagrees. Nintendo will pay 3 rd party devs & pubs to so it for for them but their 1st party wont or cant.
Even Metroid fps development were outsourced.

I reckon Iwata really wanted a piece of HD CoD and BF money hence the move to HD

But it did not work out well for Ninty.

miyamoto3884d ago

LoL at disagrees. Nintendo will pay 3 rd party devs & pubs to so it for for them but their 1st party wont or cant.
Even Metroid fps development were outsourced.

I reckon Iwata really wanted a piece of HD CoD and BF money hence the move to HD

But it did not work out well for Ninty.

@ WPX
don't make afool of yourself. Retro Studio was not owned by Nintendo when they were first commissioned to make Metroid
Prime.
consider yourself owned.

Fierce Musashi3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Way to waste all of your bubbles.

You know, this isn't the first time I'll seen this lame argument. And every time, it's always "ultra violent" or shooter games that are supposed to be considered "mature" or non kiddy. That doesn't sound like something a mature person or gamer (especially a veteran) would say. You seem like one of those gamers who would, at the first glance, call a game like Tales of Symphonia 'kiddy' because it colorful. But nevertheless, let's continue.....

So basically, forget telling a non kid friendly story with events that take place during a WAR with non kid friendly dialog (Fire Emblem). It is still in the realms of the kid friendly image simply because it lacks God of War's level of violence?...... You're a riot. Do me a favor: watch some cut scenes in Fire Emblem 13 and Xenoblade. I doubt they will convince you otherwise, ah well. lol

You're original argument was that Nintendo wouldn't make an FPS because it would hurt their kid friendly image. I've explained to you why only someone with a lack of knowledge on games under Nintendo's wing would only say such a thing by listing some non kid friendly games. And now it's about God of War's level of violence?....... Pfft I have no idea what you consider to be "mature gaming" or out of the realms of the "kid friendly image", nor do I want to know. That's barely what this is about. However, if nothing in my little list given above can classify as games out of the "Kiddy Realm" and/or not harmful to the image, then by that logic, the Uncharted & Infamous franchises are in that realm. And I know damn well you will refuse to believe such an idea, but it's your logic.

Stick to your original argument or get lost. There are enough flip-flopping fish with warped perspectives on this site.

Oh, and seeing how Nintendo owns the Bayonetta IP and is paying for it's development, you have your ultra violent game on the Wii U.

WPX3883d ago

@miyamoto
tsk tsk. sullying the game of that great man, lol.
Even though they were outsourced at first(altho for a little bit of time), Retro became a FIRST party in May 2, 2002. 6 months before Metroid Prime was published. ALL of the other Prime games were "in-house" since Retro was part of the company by then (save for Hunters, which was done by Nintendo Software Technologies (NST))
So no, miyamo-chi, only the first deVelopment (yes with that "v", nor "b") was partially outsourced. And by the way, the only one making a fool of himself is you. Do research, then argue.

Now, ahhh the "ultraviolent" topic, or more like senseless violence. Well some games can mess up your head without a single drop of blood (or maybe a bit of it) case in point, Eternal Darkness (even tho it was developed by Silicon Knights it is still a Nintendo IP), it goes beyond violent to mess directly with your head. What is more "mature" than that.

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NateCole3884d ago

Hack and Slash do well on PS. Just saying.

Shinox3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Whoever Disagrees with you have no kind of mental

Onimusha
Genji
God of war
Devil may Cry
Maximo
Shadow of Rome
Rise of the Kasai

Those games were very very successful on PlayStation platform so why not let developers know where Hack n' Slash games belong in the first place if they want to make some profit

guess its too late to say that

Concertoine3884d ago

Bayonetta clearly didnt do well enough.
And okami is not a hack and slash, its an action/adventure game, in fact most people compare it to zelda.

Shinox3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

@Concertoine

Uh NO , Its actually sold very well on PS3 compared to 360 version

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

and i didn't mention Okami on my comment

Geez Nintendo fans just give up , why are you even bothering at this point lol

WPX3884d ago

But did not do well enough according to Sega and canned the sequel (and the rest is history). Even though quantity sold was respectable.

DejectedJeff3884d ago

@shinox
LOL "its sold very well on ps3 compared to 360 ver"
are you kidding? is 200,000 more "very well?" you're calling a game that sold poorly enough a sequel was basically bought from the grave a decent seller on ps3? his point was that bayonetta didnt do well on ps3, and it didnt, who cares about how it sold compared to the 360 version hahha
geez sony fanboy give up!

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reploidmega3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Does well on Nintendo systems too. Just saying.
For those that want proof, here's a VERY small list of examples from JUST the SNES, out of many more available across all Nintendo platforms:

Secret of Mana,
Illusion of Gaia
Terranigma
Soul Blazer
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
Secret of Evermore
Super Double Dragon
Battle Toads
Final Fight series
Legend
Run Saber
King of Dragons

Give me several more hours and I could come up with a far more extensive list, but I'm a gamer; I've got games to play.
So if you want more examples, do look them up yourselves.^_-

Shinox3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Prove it !

Shinox3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Da fuq !? did you just compare 8bit games with a decent 3D hack n' slash games And WTF TMNT IV: Turtles in Time LMAO at your childish list ! , do you understand the purpose of Hack n' slash from our comments or you just picking up games out of nowhere to justify your argument.

The irony of your post that most of those games you include aren't even Hack n' slash to begin with , your list is totally a joke compared to what i post on my comment , if you trying to bring a list next time try to bring a decent bloody 3D Hack n' Slash game instead of giving us an 8bit SNES games .

Can't believe your fellows blindly vote you up without looking at your list xD

josephayal3884d ago

dear mr hideki, i cannot wait to play bayonetta 2 in my brand new PS4/X1

awesomeabe19983884d ago

You are going to have to since Plainum may be bought by Nintendo and that Bayonneta 2 is owned by Nintendo and that they supported it.

ChickeyCantor3884d ago

It's official, you're what they call a sh/t steerer. Maximum troll achieved. Congrats.

R00bot3884d ago

Nintendo basically paid for Bayonetta 2.

You have the same chance of getting that game as you do getting Mario on your PS4.

Deadpoolio3884d ago

Whats your point? Nintendo also paid for Ninja Gaiden Razor's edge and how did that work out?

The ONLY thing that might stop it is their blind loyalty to a failing console...But then again Nintendo probably doesn't expect them to move millions of copies

Gemmol3884d ago

since no one publish this to shut people up I will do it for yall......here take a real good look @deadpoolio

http://mynintendonews.com/2...

WPX3884d ago

Kamiya replies:

"Dear mr. joseph, sit confortably. Its gonna be a VERY LONG wait, if ever. If you cannot wait buy a wii-u and play it, if not, *insert any famous Kamiya quote here*"

exfatal3884d ago

"do you eat shit?!"
or my personal fav
"Get rid of fucking score thing & just believe yourself !!"

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21835d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos5d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19726d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21835d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.