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PlayStation 4 Will Win 2013 Sales, Not The Xbox One

Are you ready for a battle? Starting this November, the video game industry will be headlined by two major competitors: the Sony PlayStation 4 and the Microsoft Xbox One. And both devices, which promise enhanced graphics and outstanding game libraries, are looking to win this year’s 2013 sales competition.

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Muerte24943894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

need a Crystal Ball to make this prediction. While this article hits almost every nail on the head, this quote here bothers me.

" Sure, it doesn’t come with all of the fixin’s available with the Kinect, but its graphical capabilities look to be at least able to match those in the Xbox One initially."

I surely hopes he's speaking only to multiplatforms. Even then we have quotes guaranteeing that One System will look substantially better than the other (Need for Speed Rivals). Division and Watch Dogs both show to be running on PS4 and not Xbox One.

theWB273894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

Games being run on certain platforms mean absolutely nothing now. I think pretty much everyone knows these companies have deals to show one system over another until release.

That quote...you took it the wrong way.

" Sure, it doesn’t come with all of the fixin’s available with the Kinect, but its graphical capabilities look to be at least able to match those in the Xbox One initially."

The next sentence puts that in context greatly.

" Even better, Sony has said that the console will have nearly three dozen games available for it by the end of the year, beating out the 23 games that will be running on the Xbox One."

Means, at the least it's matching X1. The next sentence says even better than it's graphics capabilities being at(the) least capable of X1, it has more games to be made available.

You guys need to stop getting your shorts in a bunch. It's clear to EVERYONE that the PS4 is more powerful than the X1. I don't think it's by as much as people tout, (closer than the 360 and PS3 were) but most people know it is.

black0o3894d ago

if Xbox losses market share at NA which already happening ''according to the peroders'' i'd be very bad for MS

and the history will repeat it self '' PS2 vs xbox''

admiralvic3894d ago

"Means, at the least it's matching X1. The next sentence says even better than it's graphics capabilities being at(the) least capable of X1, it has more games to be made available. "

Right... and what does A have to do with B? No matter how I slice it, the statement seems to say that right now the PS4 can match the XB1 in graphics, but hey, you can play a couple more games than the XB1.

christrules00413894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

@black0o

Yes and no. The original Xbox was more powerful then the PS2, but the PS2 had a lot of games. With the PS4 having more power, more games and features that aren't behind a paywall it makes the situation different.

I know your talking about the PS2 being dominant but yeah. =P

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Skips3894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

@black0o

What do you mean "if"???

Xbox is ALREADY getting stomped in it's own territory... lol

PS4 interest is massively greater than the One in Xbox's only stronghold (U.S.) by 2:1 and the "over a million pre orders" Sony announced, (which fall in the same line Gamestop put out for people on "first to know list", who are probably the ones who've pre ordered) prove it.

In Europe, MS is gettin beat badly in the UK according to Amazon and not to mention they are releasing in WAAAAY less countries than Sony over there. That Fifa bundle ain't gonna help considering you could still get PS4 and Fifa $40 cheaper. lol

In Japan??? Straight up slaughter... Sorta like this gen...

Just imagine it worldwide, in other places where PS is already dominant... lmao

When it comes to games, and what MS has left to announce (which isn't much considering they blew their load at E3, and didn't even have a livestream Gamescom conference, are they even having one at TGS?) vs. what Sony has left...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

McScroggz3894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

I'm going to try and be as respectful as I possibly can when I say that your statement, "I don't think it's by as much as people tout, (closer than the 360 and PS3 were)..." is completely absurd.

I really dislike the word fanboy, so I'll not label you one. However, the Xbox 360 and PS3 were actually pretty comparable. The PS3 certainly had a slight advantage in raw power (especially due to Cell) but it was also much more complex to program for - plus split memory.

With the PS4 and Xbox One, the former is better in nearly every measurable I've seen. Sure, DDR3 is better at some functions than GDDR5, we don't know the exact specifications of both consoles and there are other factors such as toolsets and small details in design.

However, the PS4 has a unified memory pool, with a friendlier architecture with almost universally better/more powerful components. I'm not saying the PS4 will make the Xbox One look like a Xbox 360 game, but to casually slough off the notion of the PS4's decided powerful difference is clearly obfuscation of the facts as we currently know them.

I'm not trying to rebuke just because I've grown tired of seeing the misinformation or lies of commenters in the site - surely some people are simply mistaken, I've probably been before - but I'm here to tell you now that unless there is some bombshell info on the Xbox One's hardware that hasn't been dropped or Sony makes some huge design error that nobody has spotted then the PS4 WILL be more powerful than the Xbox One and it WILL be by a bigger margin than the PS3 was over the Xbox 360.

Thank you for your time.

stuna13894d ago

Anyway it's worded it a slight against the PS4, what does the games being released have to do with his statement, regardless of how many there are?

black0o3894d ago

@christrules0041 i only meant the domination scenario

@skips i was trying to sugar-coated ;)

nypifisel3894d ago

Actually the PS4 is substantially more powerful than the Xbox One by way bigger margins than PS3-360.

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BG115793894d ago

Even if the Xbox One seems to be in front the PS4 in the spannish's pre-orders, I also agree that globally the PS4 will sell more than the Xbox One...

And people thought that the US and England were MS bastions...
http://www.amazon.es/gp/bes...

devwan3894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

It's actually not. That chart you linked to is based on recent sales only. amazon.es does not have the equvalent of the 2013 year-to-date other amazon sites have, eg the uk one below:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

The chart you linked to is based on what appears to be around 2 to 4 weeks of data. There's a movers-and-shakers chart that give an idea of a more targeted daily movement of sales, but a few of the European amazon sites don't have the historical sales charts others have so the only way to gauge how well things are doing there is to check your chart every few weeks and just get a "feel" of it. After E3 things were very different ;-)

BG115793894d ago

@devwan Thanks for the info.
So impossible to konw what's going on in Europe then. We have to wait to know which console will be the most sold.

Shadowsteal3894d ago

The comments on that article and comments about all PS4 has is indies keep getting to me. Xbox enthusiasts keep playing their Xbox has a better lineup vs PS4. Yes that's true... for the moment.

Look at PS3's lineup this year:
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Ni No Kuni
God of War: Ascension
The Last of Us
Tales of Xillia
Dragon's Crown
Kingdom Hearts HD
FFX HD
Rain
Puppeteer
Beyond: Two Souls
Gran Turismo 6

Xbox:
Gears of War: Judgement which was garbage.

Next year 2014 watch, just watch you Xbox fanboys will be eating your words when you get bored of your launch titles and have to wait a whole year for Halo.

And we on PS4 will be playing

Infamous: Second Son in february
The Order: 1886
Uncharted 4
Littlebigplanet 3
Last of Us 2
Gran Turismo 6 or 7 for PS4
Ratchet and Clank (Into the Nexus proves there will be more coming to PS in the future)
The Last Guardian
Media Molecule New IP
Sony Santa Monica New IP
Guerrilla Games New IP
Quantic Dream New IP

And so many more us PS4 gamers will forget how to count.

Yknow why Sony is going so indie heavy? Because they're trying to incubate each and every one of these indies to become the next Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, or Santa Monica.

And guess what's going to happen? All those games will be exclusive.

Don't think in the short term, think in the long term.

In the end the PS3 won the console war and has one of the best exclusive lineups this year alone. Xbox 360 has shit.

You can expect the same from PS4 vs XboxOne

wtopez3894d ago

Don't forget Titanfall on that list of PS4 exclusives.

Lunarassassin3894d ago

@wtopez
When did that happen?
I know microsoft only have titanfall for a year and after that a ps4 version.

Shadowsteal3894d ago

It was sarcasm Lunarassassin

We don't want Titanfall, atleast I don't. The market is overpopulated with shooters. Missing out on one won't make a difference especially one that has current-gen graphics.

shadyiswin3894d ago

90% of the games you are bragging about dont even exist you idiot lol,meanwhile xbox will have halo and titanfall next year,nothing sony puts out will be bigger than halo or titanfall,despite what you believe,no one cares about infamous it will go largely unnoticed,like all these amazing exclusives no one buys lol.

ALSO the xbox one only had gears judgement and yet it still the number one console for 31 months in a row,soon to be 32,why? because no one cares about 2 or 3 titles a year,we want the best games including multiplatform games,so i have a ps3 and i havent bought any games for it ,it is strictly my 3d bluray player,and i only got it cause it was $35,i know avid sony fans at my job who want the ps4 but ae not getting it on day one,why? because the game they want most this yea is battlefeild 4 and gta 5,both on the ps3 where as xbox fans want ryse,dead rising 3,killer instinct and so on,the xbox one will crush the ps4 in america,the only place that counts and will do well in europe as well

Shadowsteal3894d ago

@Shadyiswin

Sony confirmed at gamescom 14 of their first party studios are all making PS4 games that include Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica. Both Guerrilla Games and Quantic Dream stated last year that they had another IP in the works but are waiting until their current titles ship before they can even plan on announcing their other ones.

And that's why PS3 is outselling Xbox360 by 500,000 units worldwide right?

God aren't you narrow minded just because your friends aren't looking forward to PS4's launch titles doesn't mean the world isn't. That's why Sony announced PS4 already sold over 1 million pre-orders.

And will you guys stfu about Killer Instinct?! They gave a great IP to one of the worst dev's in gaming Double Helix. Have fun playing a fighting game with 6-8 characters at launch.

Everything I said can be backed by sources. Unlike you I;m not talking out of my ass or like Msoft spouting bs about cloud power!

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Psn8003894d ago

We need a strong competition regardless to keep both competitors on there toes & game prices down .

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3893d ago

What is Sony going to start releasing NPD numbers? Because they've been getting smashed in the USA.

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ZBlacktt3894d ago

Just read the news already being put out by Amazon, Gamestop, etc. The PS4 is selling out everywhere. So kind of a no brainier. Not to mention 19 countries vs 32 countries.

shadyiswin3894d ago

countries wont matter,the allotment does,why is no one has common sense on this website,5 million systems made will always equal 5 million systems made,shipping in 1,000 countries doesnt make the number more,cause it is still.....5 million,if anything you will see high sales of the xbox in the united states in europe just cause they didnt waste time shipping to japan and certain other comapanies where they stand no chance,i am dying to see how this site puts a spin on xbox ones sales,im sure it will push the fact that the ps4 is the world wide better system seller but thats a no brainer really,i want to see usa and europe, microsoft hasnt even begun there campaign yet,or giving a release date,the casuals are totally unaware of xbox one,they just know a new one is coming,so wait for that boom to hit in a month or so and you will see an xbox one everywhere.

pyramidshead3894d ago

@Shadyiswin in huge damage control mode with fanboy drivel paragraphs.

DialgaMarine3893d ago

@shadyiswin You seem to to forget that retailers have constantly that M$ isn't shipping very many units to them, at least no where near as many PS4s. It's why so many retailers have had to halt XBone preorders, while still having preorders open for PS4, despite PS4 still being far ahead. You notice Sony has actually given us a general idea of how PS4 is doing in that regard, while M$ is trying really hard to market their console. Obviously M$ isn't super confident if they're still constantly flip flopping, and offering deals that are still more expensive than the competition. I doubt anymore marketing is really going to help much.

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Mystogan3894d ago

You don't need to be an analyst to see thats whats going to happen. But X1 is building huge momentum. 2014 will be interesting.

Muerte24943894d ago

sincere. How exactly are they building momentum? I haven't seen anything or heard anything to suggest that. There are also a lot of features we have yet to see running. Twitch integration being the main one. They've only showed "UPLOAD" and the dashboard.

Sitdown3894d ago

You have to go outside of n4g to see it. If you think Microsoft is at the same place it was months ago, perhaps you just do not want to see it. Dropped DRM, free game for Europe, indie support, solid launch lineup, etc...

Muerte24943894d ago

because their pre-order sales were extremely low? All these weren't initially in the works except for the launch line up. These were all things used to stop the bleeding. I could be wrong. But seeing as how you can still pre-order an Xbox One in most places even when their launching in fewer territories speaks volumes.

christrules00413894d ago

@sitdown

People don't know about that because Microsoft didn't do a press conference. Funny part though is that a PS4 with Fifa is still cheaper then a Xbox One with a free copy of Fifa.

It doesn't really make that much of a difference. Lol

shadyiswin3894d ago

@christ

it makes a huge diffrence,the fact that the xb1 has the exclusive mode on fifa was enough for people to prefer it on xbox one,the fact there giving it away makes it a system seller,the fact that cod will have dedicated servers makes it a system seller,cod and fifa are huge in europe. You could get a ps4 with fifa for cheaper,but you would have crippled version of fifa and a horrible online experience with cod,and no camera.

People love to bag on kinect like it didnt ell 20 million,it outsold gran turmiso 5 which both came out in the same week,that says it all,and for me kinect has always been about ui integration,yes i will actually say xbox on follow by play game,i will use the face recognition in games,i will definitely skype on it seeing as i ue skype almost everyday to keep up with certain people,i will use kinect to scan in redemption codes,ill use it to give a play by play of my uploaded vids,and yes i enjoy the sport dance and fitness games on top of that a better controller and a better online experience,suddenly a $100 is very much justified

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thetruthx13894d ago

Ms are building momentum by

A. Many people believe they won Gamescom

B. Most people like the One's launch lineup better and think the Ps4's lineup is all indies and free to play games

C. Titanfall is getting even more exposure and the press are loving it like a man loves boobs

thetruthx13894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

If it was only me it wouldn't be said on this site filled with Sony's worshipers now would it

Face the truth Microsoft does do some things better than Sony

A lot of things in my opinion

Hellsvacancy3894d ago

"Face the truth Microsoft does do some things better than Sony"

We don't need to prove anything to the likes of you buddy, your the insecure one here, why else would you feel the need to share your silly little lists of "why MS does this better"

And your always in PS3/4 news articles, funny that, if it doesn't interest you why are you reading it?

gamertk4213894d ago

NO, Hammad. I also love boobs.

WeAreLegion3894d ago

Why do you think the site is full of Sony's worshipers?

That's EVERY site right now. Sony has gained many fans in the past few years. They're treating the customer with respect. That is all we ask for, as consumers.

stuna13894d ago

@thetruthx1

Let's just be glad it's your opinion!
Microsoft may not be where they were before the U turn, but they are a long way from where Sony is now! Facts are Facts.

Titanfall is getting a lot of hype right now, and for good reason! Hell I want to play it, but it's also releasing on 3 platforms! Those thinking the Xbox 1 will get the majority of sales even though it's touted to be the superior version..... Well you know, for one it is 1 game hardly reason enough for most to drop 500 bones on a console just to play it! Looking at it in retrospect, Xbox 360 owners have only to pay for the game itself! Nothing seem too intricate to be to tough to run most modern PC hardware either.

If anything I see the Xbox 360, PC's cannibalising the Xbox1 version of the game.

Mystogan3893d ago

Yeah its only him. Titanfall is only the game that received the most rewards ever at E3. Its only the game that makes man cum of excitement when playing it. It is only THE COD killer.

open your eyes people. X1 has the greatest line-up here.

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Hicken3894d ago

A. Many more people don't. Particularly the general populace, who know little about what was said and done, since there wasn't a conference.

B. I'd like to see the proof you have of this. Far too often, people toss around words like "most" with no evidence to support it. This seems to be one of those times.

C. This seems to be the strongest argument Xbox folks have. I guess they keep forgetting how nobody even NEEDS the XB1 to play this game.

HammadTheBeast3894d ago

It's kind of sad that their "best" game so far is a third party one.

pyramidshead3894d ago

yes these 'people'. All points highly subjective and subject to opinion let's not pass these off as facts please.

Except maybe I'd prefer booty over boobs. :)

thetruthx13894d ago

Sony fanboys criticize Xbox all day long but when someone doesn't share their views they are "insecure" lol y'all don't make sense at all

awesomeperson3894d ago

To be honest, it sounds as if you're the insecure one.

When people have something somewhat intelligent to say, people usually listen.

When you list things like you said - the majority of which are not true, even with public perception, then of course you will be criticised.

ZHZ903893d ago (Edited 3893d ago )

A. There wasn't even a conference for MS.

B. Launch line-up are NOT enough to convince people to get Xbox One.

C. Not everyone needs to get Xbox One just for Titanfall, people can still buy and play it on X360 and/or PC. It won't help increase sells of Xbox One.

Btw we are NOT Sony worshippers, I only worship one God and have faith in God, his Angels, his Prophets and his Holy Books and that's it so stop calling us that ok.
People like myself just believe that Sony does things right and does thing better than MS with their console and delivering customers' satisfaction.

That's all.

Mystogan3893d ago

Haha looks like you struck a nerve.

silly psfanboys.

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user74029313894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

this is obvious, its been this way with

ps2

ps3

and ps4 will do the same

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow18h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos6h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos4h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje4h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon4h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola1h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola1h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum55m ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad3h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola1h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos1h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai3h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK3h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh3h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.