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Xbox One or PlayStation 4? Whichever You Choose, You Win

Gamebrit writes: "Back in May Microsoft’s Xbox One was unveiled at a special media event, bringing with it a number of ill-favoured key policies, such as enforced Digital Rights Management (DRM), a compulsory Kinect camera and a £429 price tag (the latter of which was announced at E3). As a result of these unpopular decisions Sony’s PlayStation 4 quickly became the leading ‘next-gen’ choice in many gamers minds.

However, a lot has changed since then, with us now arriving at a point where things are a lot more even. So, with the playing field levelling out, does it really matter which ‘side’ you pick?"

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ABeastNamedTariq3896d ago

Oh, most definitely. I can't wait until November.

Hopefully everybody will just focus on playing their new systems and finally shutup. At least for a while.

Shadowsteal3896d ago

Nope lol People are going to start citing reviews of Forza vs DriveClub
Knack
Killer Instinct
Ryse
Killzone: Shadowfall etc.

ShugaCane3896d ago

And those people will be happy (or stubbornly pretend to be) with their own choices of game, so I guess "Whichever you choose, you win" says it right.

theBAWSE3896d ago

Microsoft have abandoned two consoles in a row

They suck you in with third party exclusive games in the beginning, once they have they couldn't give a toss as their newer shinier toy is on the horizon

People have short memories it's deja vue for a third time

No thank you Microsoft I'll stick with the ps3 which still has new ips coming out and buy the ps4 when I've finished

BallsEye3896d ago

@theBAWSE

Shut up. People like you made this site go down low. I could give you million reasons why you got short memory about sony but I won't. Go figure yourself and get lost. As you see this article is written for people who buy their own toys.

n4rc3896d ago

Drop 30 grand on a car and have the warranty end after 5 years.. Then come talk to me about product life cycles...

People spend a few hundred bucks on a game and expect a decade of support...

humbleopinion3896d ago

If by "abandoning" you mean 7+ years of first party games, I'd love to be abandoned like that every generation.

I'd say that Microsoft only started abandoning the 360 after Horizon, Halo 4 and the latest Gears around march this year (although there's still a flux of indie XBLA games).
Sony still offers quality games and will probably continue into at least early 2014, but they started offering the console and their games one year later as well.

So overall Xbox 360 2005-2013 VS PS3 2006-2014. Both offered around 8 years of quality games, which is more than I can say about any previous generation since the NES era.

mcstorm3896d ago

@humbleopinion I agree and for me the Wiiu should also be included in this. I don't get the fan boys on here a lot of the time. Owning a games console is like owning any other electronic device and why people get up tight over them I don't know. I own a surface but don't go round telling everyone who has an iPad or android that there crap and List reasons. We have choice for a reason as we all like different things.

For me the next 12 months is about the Wiiu and Xbox one and I will pick a ps4 up later on next year.

NewZealander3896d ago

@theBAWSE

thats a weak attempt bro, everyone knows the focus is on the new consoles, thats exactly where i want to see MS focus their attention right now.

im having plenty of fun catching up on games i missed, and looking forward to fable anniversary as being my farewell to the 360.

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NatureOfLogic3896d ago

Not really. If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it. Most can forgive all they want. MS have to prove to me over a long period of time now.

Gster3896d ago

If MS had have played "Ballmore" thing could have been very different. Alas, whats "Don" is "Don". It doesn't really "Mattrick" anymore. But if the "Shuehei" was on the other foot, MS would "Cerney" be looking down at Sony, and the xbox1 would definitely "Tretton" ps4 for top spot! :P

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come_bom3896d ago (Edited 3896d ago )

"If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it."

Dumbest thing I've heard today. Seriously! Grow up fanboy.

deadie3896d ago

@come_bom:

Where have you been the last 4 months?

Yeah it was kinda "dumb" - by Microsoft.

Umb3896d ago

I think that's the kind of attitude MS is banking on, where people will easily forget about the past or just gloss over it by saying: but they made all these changes. Making reversals on bad decision is not the point, the point is the intent is was there at the very beginning and changes were only made not because of the outcry by the consumers but rather by the potential loss of market share MS saw from the preorder results.

Just like many governments of this world, we only care about you when it will ensure will we win office in the election and once we get into office we do what we want!

Dude Dutch3896d ago

@come bom

Typical comment from somebody who joined 9 days ago. Did you start gaming 9 days ago?

Foxhound9223896d ago (Edited 3896d ago )

Oh you're one of those people aren't you? The people who like restrictions, pay walls, no game support, required internet, 24 hr check ins, and most of all, being bent over I suppose. If you can remember, Microsoft wanted all of these things, and sadly still has a few of these. The ONLY reason they reversed some of there most infamous policies was because that they are getting their a$$es handed to them in preorders. I guess your one of the people who really know how to "dealwithit#"

n4rc3896d ago

Sigh... Give it a rest...

None of it ever happened.. And even if it did, its not ruining gaming.. In any way shape or form..

You continue to ignore every single benefit of those policies and act like they were just put their to screw people.. If you haven't noticed.. Microsoft doesn't make billions of dollars a year by ruining the internet and your home office!

Let's all forget about Sony removing Linux support after selling the feature.. Or the cinava protection blocking playback of movies or how about just losing my credit card number??

Let's talk about shit that actually happened!

Its pathetic.. You need to stop but I know you won't.. Nothing better to do..

stage883896d ago

So soon people forget.
I bet the guys at Microsoft are laughing their heads off now.

It'll take a long time before i trust them again.

come_bom3896d ago (Edited 3896d ago )

Well... guess I'll have to explain what I meant, since some people are too slow to understand. I wasn't bashing Microsoft not was I agreeing with their policies. The dumbest thing is claiming that Microsoft single handily tried to ruin gaming as we know it... Microsoft doesn't have that power, nor Sony, nor Nintendo. If Microsoft implemented those policies they WOULDN'T have ruined gaming as we know it. It was simply a different approach to gaming, something similar to Steam, Google store or Apple store. It was up to consumers to choose if they are interested or not in their console with those policies... most consumers were against their policies, so Microsoft changed them to please consumers. Simple as that. Every company tries to sell their product to the most consumers they can. Microsoft does it, Sony does it, Nintendo does it.

deadie3895d ago (Edited 3895d ago )

@come_bom: Well they might not have "the power" (?) but they did in fact try & they failed. Big time.

If you dont understand why forced policies and control over your potential consumers is a bad thing then i guess youre kind of slow.

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Funantic13896d ago

You forgave Sony for the 77 million hacks and shutting down PSN for a month didn't you? That was way worse than anything MS ever did. And at least the 180s by MS was before launch. I forgive both companies for their mistakes. They both could make more in the future. They'll both sell fine. And they both make each other better.

M-M3896d ago

You say it like the PS3, Wii, and 360 weren't hacked in some sort of way. People spewing "Sony got hacked for a month!" don't even know the story behind it, my goodness.

RiPPn3896d ago

Your statement makes it sound like Sony was the one that did the hacking. That's like blaming a woman who got her purse snatched for the theft.

Sony has had it's faults I do agree, but the writing has been on the wall with Microsoft for years, the Xbox One controversy just shined a giant light on what people have long suspected.

LOGICWINS3896d ago

If that purse had the financial records/identities of 77 million people who trusted her with that information, she shouldn't have been in a position where there was even a remote possibility of her being robbed.

B-radical3896d ago

Yup true Sony's security better be up to scratch next gen a whole bunch of gta has leaked because of it...but to some thats not a bad thing

saint_seya3896d ago

How many lost money, accounts on psn? oh right Noone did, and tbh its easier to buy gold memeber accounts than psn on the internet.. SO WHO IS THE ONE GETTING HACKED.. Ill give u clue, starts with x and ends with box #if u dont believe me check on google, if u know how to use it u will see that.
Damn scammers/hackers are #or at least were# selling gold accounts.. AND BTW, our psn accounts were free, but GOLD ACCOUNTS been sold were paid for poor guys that lost money.
And btw check on the people that was telling that they couldnt take their credit cards from autorenew with MS #ms playing around to keep the autorenew#. Add that to people that is selling gold accounts, thats a great combo..

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M-M3896d ago

Dang man can you chill out lol, I agree with you but articles like this don't call for posts like that.

EXVirtual3896d ago

Nature, I agree with you, but now's not the time or article to post that.

marloc_x3896d ago

If you feel Sony has no interest in DRM, best someone give you a pinch and wake you up..

dark-hollow3896d ago

You just can't fight the urge to shit on anything ms related.

dannylilley3895d ago

I think that's a fair comment but as I pointed out in the article that comes under personal (as opposed to subjective) preference, something you're 100% entitled to. On a strictly console feature set topic however both consoles are far more similar than they once were.

Maybe Microsoft will win you over eventually but if not I'm sure Sony will be glad to have you onboard :)

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PSNintyGamer3896d ago

Yep, Which ever one you choose your a winner. Don't let any haters or fanboys tell you different.

Automatic793896d ago

Gamers want to enjoy games. Both systems offer excellent games. We all win.

GenericNameHere3896d ago

Fanboy P: Look! So and so gave this game a *insert favorable score here*!!
Fanboy X: Well, so and so have THIS game a *insert great score here*!
Fanboys P: Look at the Metacritic! This game got a *score*!
Fanboys X: Oh yeah, well this game has better textures. *Insert performance site here* said so!

Rinse and repeat. Sometimes, their roles get reversed, and Fanboy P says Fanboys X's line, and vice versa. This will repeat next gen, the gen after that, and every gen after that. You can never win if you only have one.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere13h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN10h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger10h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto12h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel11h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator10h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg13h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos13h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola8h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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