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Something Doesn’t Feel Right About PS4 Remote Play

GenGAME writes: "During today’s Gamescom press conference, Sony demoed PS Vita Remote Play for Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag. As a self-professed fan of Wii U’s Off-TV Play, which includes a similar feature out-of-the-box via the GamePad, I was really looking forward to Sony flooring me with what their Gaikai teams have been able to achieve.

"Frankly, I didn’t come away satisfied. If anything, the on-stage presentation of PS4 Remote Play left me more apprehensive than ever about whether the feature is really as seamless and as powerful as it’s cracked up to be."

Dunpeal3894d ago

I don't fully understand this feature yet. Are you supposed to be able to play your games remotely through WIFI via some sort of cloud service or is it just local WIFI connection between your PS4 and Vita?

If it's the latter, then personally, I would have no use for it.

And if it's the former, I would imagine you should expect to still suffer from some lag issues are you not?

ABeastNamedTariq3894d ago

I think (I think, I don't know exactly for sure) that it's both. Gaikai is used for remote play. So it is definitely the latter, and they might be able to stream games if the Vita is connected to Wifi or 3G + Wifi, so it may be the former as well. I guess we'll see.

ShinMaster3894d ago

You can play PS4 games with your Vita from anywhere with an internet connection(WiFi).
Also I think it's a video signal. Not sure about Gaikai.

AznGaara3894d ago

I remote played a PSOne Classic on my Vita at my campus while my Ps3 was at home... So yeah, unless they change it.

christian hour3894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

Personally, assuming I decide to pick up a Vita at some point, I would probably mostly use remote play to play games that don't rely on fast responses from the player, like turn based rpgs, fighters, TCG's like Magic etc just to be safe, or at least until I was certain the latency was very minimal.

It still remains to be seen how much latency we'll be dealing with when it comes to remote play in and out of the home, or how smoothly it runs during heavy congestion periods.

The idea intrigues me, but it might take a PS4/Vita SKU to send the message home to the average consumer. The price drop on vita was nice, and the 6 to 10 game bundles helps to sweeten the deal too, but I dunno if I could fit a ps4 and a vita in to my budget initially.

Hopefully there'll be some booths set up in game retailers to showcase the Vita working with the PS4 closer to launch, or at least some proper hands-on reviews by honest journalists.

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TheGrimReaper00113894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

Here is how it works:
While in remote play, the PS4 loads the game (graphics and such) and send a live stream video to the PS vita. This is what you will see on your vita screen.
The thing is, the vita can handle all graphics in video format of the PS4 (in lower resolution of course) but because the game is running on the PS4 and NOT the vita, you dont really lose any quality of the game.
Though the resolution is lower, this is covered by the fact that the screen is smaller.
All your inputs on the vita, are send back to the ps4, kinda like a controller.
The PS4 will do all the video streaming while loading everything from the game to the vita, while the vita will only send out the inputs to the PS4.
This will work with GaiKai streaming technology and thus requires an internet connection.
You will play via Wifi, but I believe you can also do it with 3G (but it will suck on 3G)
The lag is going to depend on how well they'll be able to connect the two devices with each other and that the streaming works good both ways.
Cause if the PS4 video lags, things can happen in game, but wouldnt show on the vita
If the vita inputs lag, you would press a button and a second later it will do something
It is a cool feature if it works, because I also played GOW on my ps vita, while on vacation.
The vita can turn on the PS3 and so it should also be able to turn on the PS4.
It really is something we're going to have to wait for to see how well it works, but this is basically the jist of it ;)

TKCMuzzer3894d ago (Edited 3894d ago )

I think what is meant is they are using gaikai streaming technology, in terms of software experience and their knowledge which improves the response rate of the wi fi signal transfer compared to what the ps3 uses. Wi fi speeds are quick enough it's just the way it's used and gaikai experience and tech has improved it since the ps3.
It's all about optimizing and what better than a company who specializes in streaming. I have no doubt it will work, streaming God Of War from my ps3 works really well, so add a dedicated chip, more power and better tech I can see it bieng just fine on the ps4.

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ABeastNamedTariq3894d ago

I doubt it was staged. Sony tends to use live demos for presenting. I didn't notice any significant lag either, which is cool.

legendoflex3894d ago

It definitely was staged, otherwise the PS4 footage couldn't have kept moving the way it did after the guy set down his controller, and the Remote Play "picking up where he left off" would have actually picked up where he left off and not a few seconds before he left off.

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boybato3894d ago

Well to be fair, you really won't notice any 'input' lag not unless you're actually the one playing.

Benjaminkno3894d ago

Yeah, I saw the same thing.

I was really excited when I heard about the bundle, and I still may get it. It isn't realistic to think that Vita will do more with Ps4, simply because they weren't built around each other.
Sony would be lucky if only half the Ps4 owners owned a Vita (which is a stretch).

I want Sony to do well, but "remote play" for 600 without a game doesn't sound appealing when I can play a WiiU anywhere as long as I have a back-pack and some electricity.

You think the next hendheld won't be built around the WiiU?...

This is game over.

sincitysir13894d ago

Wait so that bundle is real?!

porkChop3894d ago

What bundle? I haven't seen any announcements about any bundles.

cellur1113894d ago

No, I think he means buying the ps4 and the vita separately which would be $600.

porkChop3894d ago

"It isn't realistic to think that Vita will do more with Ps4, simply because they weren't built around each other."

You're just full of misinformation today, aren't you? But what else would I expect from an obvious troll. The Vita and the PS4 were developed in tandem and were specifically designed to be used together. The Vita was not meant for the PS3 and Sony has said this a thousand times.

Hicken3894d ago

You're joking, right? You gotta be joking. You just left the /s off your comment.

First off, you know there's like half a dozen free to play games on PS4, right?

Secondly, if ever a handheld and console were built around each other, it was these two. If you can't see that, I'll personally drive you to a good optometrist of your choosing.

Third, a backpack? Really? Well, all I need is a pocket. No electricity needed. My Vita's fully charged and currently paired to my PS3; it'll be paired to my PS4 later.

... I really hope this was just a joke, though. I mean.. yeah, I'll just assume it was a poorly thought-out joke.

Benjaminkno3893d ago

Vita can't dole out Ps4 graphics.

The joke is Sony claiming Vita will do more than WiiU can do...

Even if it could, good luck getting Sony to innovate. So far all I see is remote play.

If it were a better experience, then we would've seen more than remote play. Because you know WiiU is going to have the dual screen action for AC that isn't possible with Ps4 and I think it's funny that you're all pretending that it will... or we would've seen it.

I call bullshit...

Hicken3893d ago

There is LITERALLY nothing the Wii U can do that PS4/Vita can't. Any and all second screen functionality you'll be seeing with Assassin's Creed or any other game is possible on both. There is factually no arguing that.

On the other hand, you can't leave your Wii U at home, take the gamepad to another country, and still play on your Wii U. WHICH YOU CAN DO WITH THE PSV/PS4.

You can call BS all you want, but that's just you being ignorant. The FACT that remote play already exists with PS3... the FACT that second screen already exists on LBP2....

Yeah, these things outweigh your ill-informed nonsense.

Benjaminkno3893d ago

LBP2... that's Ps3...
That doesn't prove anything.

Maybe I am wrong, but until I see it, I'm going to assume Sony is just trying to hype itself up more than they deserve.

Get a gaming laptop... better graphics and you can carry it around with you... for only double the price!!...

...hmmm... ...sounds familiar...

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PirateKing3894d ago

Hey lets have Assassin's Creed crash again while trying to set up remote play, that went over really well with gamers last time. We all know it was set up beforehand but the demo was just to show you how it can be achieved. Details can come later.

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ho0lee0h3894d ago

People. Remote play is powered by Gaikai. Already confirmed by CEO of Gaikai on Twitter. You will be able to play your PS4 games from anywhere with WiFi. The lag will depend on the connection speed. Also, Sony wasn't trying to show you a seamless transition from PS4 to Vita. They just wanted to show remote play at work. It looked great!

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PoE: Deadfire, Unless you have a or PS5 or an SSD don't bother, loading times are insane. A minute and a half to go into a room to investigate a desk in an inn and then an additional 1 1/2 minutes to leave the room and then load to leave the inn???

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OtterX62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

I wanted a Black Flag sequel so bad. It's still my favorite AC entry. The fact that they ignored everything that we loved about that game in this "spiritual successor" is making me enjoy watching this game crash and burn quite a bit. Either do it right or don't do it at all. (I understand the legal binding they got themselves into with the Singapore government to release this game at all costs)

/grabs popcorn

isarai62d ago

My thing is, if the Singapore govt was forcing you to do it at all cost, why not make what people wanted? How did ubi delay it for 5yrs, then again for 1yr and not just make a similar experience to black flag? How do you spend so much time and make so little?

Chocoburger60d ago

Ubisoft did make a sequel, Assassin's Creed: Rogue. It has a short campaign, and its packed with filler side quests for upgrades, but it's still a decent time.

It released on the same day as Assassin's Creed: Unity, so it was mostly forgotten.

porkChop61d ago

11 years of development. Multiple restarts. All the while people have been saying they don't want some pirate game where you can't even get off your ship. 11 years of people telling Ubisoft all they want is a pirate game that's basically Black Flag without any of the assassin or animus stuff. Yet they still served up this trash that no one wanted, charged $70 for it, and had the balls to call it AAAA.

The Guillemot family honestly needs to be forced out of Ubisoft. They've doubled down on everything players don't like about their games, they want AI to create "rough drafts" of their stories rather than letting their writers do their jobs, and they literally do not give a shit what their playerbase actually wants. 5-6 years ago their stock was worth more than 4x what it's currently worth. The company is dying.

Jin_Sakai61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

What has happened to developers? How can you possible make a worse looking game 11 years later? It’s honestly mind boggling.

darksky61d ago

It's because the older developers were better at it. The new generation pass most of their exams by copying code from around the web so are not nearly as good at understanding what they are developing.

LucasRuinedChildhood61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

No, here's the truth:
https://www.channelnewsasia...
This was made in Singapore and it's the first game of this scale to be made there. Ubisoft would probably cancel it normally since it clearly wasn't shaping up well but they were getting government grants to try build up the industry there.

Do you really think game developers are radically different than just 10 years ago? And this game has been development since Black Flag released.

Using one crap game to trash a whole industry of developers is stupid. It's like saying "Alien Colonial Marines proves that game developers suck now."

yeahokwhatever60d ago

i know this to be at least part of the puzzle from experience.

senorfartcushion60d ago

It's the multiplayer aspect of the world. MP games look worse than single player games, period. Every comparison we keep seeing are for games like Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad and Skull and Bones. They all have multiplayer focusses.

SyntheticForm61d ago

God, I'd love a remake of Black Flag.

Yi-Long61d ago

Enough has been said about this game already. The gaming world shrugged when it was announced so many years ago, and instead of listening to all the criticisms from the community back then, Ubi just sailed on and kept making a game nobody really wanted. What a waste of money and effort.

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