Ryse: Son of Rome Technical Presentation Shows Gameplay and Development: Marius is 150,000 Polygons

During a technical presentation about Ryse: Son of Rome some new interesting info and gameplay directly from Crytek has been shown about the game, that has been in development for a year and a half and is made using Autodesk Maya.

[NYC_Gamer]

I hope the game offers quality gameplay because it does look nice

[RyuCloudStrife]

I can honestly say this is the only new IP that I really liked from the Xbox One.

[Genesis1295]

Definately, a game that sets a change from the common exclusives for the xbox also other new IP's like Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive and the upcoming black tusk studios game can't wait to get my hands on them

[NewMonday]

they put a lot into the player+some NPCs, but barley anything is left for the environment,why is everything so gray and bland?

[InTheLab]

This looks mediocre to me compared to Quantum Break and Project Spark.

[itBourne]

I agree, kind of a bland looking game. Spark to me looked like it could be a blast to play.

[Enemy]

150,000 is nothing. Even late PS3 exclusives (Heavy Rain, Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, GT5, GT6, even Uncharted 2) are comparable.

It's ok for a launch game.

[cee773]

Lmao the very first sonic game on ps360,sonic was 1 million polygons.

[JokesOnYou]

Enemy no those ps3 games are not comparable
If you notice Racers always have higher poly counts because theres not alot to render up close compared to action games. UC2 had 37k to 45k for Chloe and Drake, KZ3 had 10k for characters and 45k for head closeups.
http://www.gameartisans.org...

"For in-game characters, the PS3 game used three different LOD models (more polygons used the closer you are to the character in question), up to 10,000 polygons and 1024x1024 textures. Things have changed significantly for PlayStation 4 with seven LOD models and a maximum of 40,000 polygons and up to six 2048x2048 textures."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-Ryse Son of Rome has alot of tech running under the hood, which has clearly made it the most visually stunning next gen exclusive game.

[CoLD FiRE]

@Enemy It's crazy how you're spreading false information yet more people agreed with you than disagreed!

Here's a shot from Killzone SF technical presentation.

It says Killzone 3 used 10,000 polygons for the highest level of detail character models. Killzone SF uses 40,000 for the highest LOD character models.

https://securecdn.disqus.co...

[IRetrouk]

Cold fire i think those numbers are just for npcs not sure though as the article about it was a while ago, either way both games look fantastic.

[bjmartynhak]

@Enemy,

Jodie from Beyond Two Souls is at 30,000 and looks awesome.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www....

150,000 is an incredible improvement

[mikeslemonade]

I understand how it looks like an average game but I just don't understand people are impressed by this game.

[slimpickens]

I will never understand how the few can come in here and say this doesn't look impressive or at least sound impressive. The game looks pretty solid so hopefully the game play is deep.

[Ju]

This is the same for Ryse, Joke's, 150k is their "cut scene" model. All this really is, is they can seamlessly switch into a cutscene from game play (listen to Evan's speech). You will never play a 150K poly model - which is pretty apparent if you actually take the time and compare the opening sequence and compare the fidelity with the same model during game play. He also mentioned the joints in faces which are designed @ 260 - but can drop down to 10 (!) during game play - if you want to extrapolate from here what the LOD drops down...

150K is LOD0 - used for cut scenes. I would also think - since those roman guys all look the same - the same model is quite re-factored through geometry instancing.

It just underlines what you see in the game: High res on closeups - with no other detail around (usually covered in motion blur or DOF) and a quite simplistic environments in the distance.

[Gardenia]

This game is nothing special, not in graphics and definitely not in gameplay

[sobotz]

Gray colour filter =/= bland

look at MGS4 and MGS3, they're filtered with grey and brown color, but they're all not bland

[Autodidactdystopia]

ju

This is different. Its seamless lod transition
just like in game,

Previous games and engines had a definite split between what could be seen in game and the cutscene assets.

you will play a 150k model if you want but you will have to do the usual run character against a wall and rotate the camera to look at his face, then you will get a seamless lod0

so in fact you can see the cutscene models at all times and in game.

your facts are straight but i think you missed that part.

difference being that in games like uncharted, no matter how close you got the camera to the players face in game and outside of a cutscene you would never get the lod0 cutscene model detail.

in ryse you can.

simple :)

[GameNameFame]

@cold fire

And old wizard trailer tech demo used about 1 million for 1 character.

Running in game on ps4 .

Lol. Lets not compare. If you go to shader it's also is not comparable

[JokesOnYou]

ju watch the vid with Chris Evans Autodesk presentation go to 8:40 it begins with

"From day one we had this mantra in the company of play the cutscene"

"that rig, the chracter you see in the cutscene is the same character in gameplay if you zoom in anytime during combat its the same"
http://area.autodesk.com/oo...

This gives you a quick comparsion specs that show how much Crytek are pushing with Ryse:
http://opa-ages.com/forums/...

-hey spin it all you want but we have eyes and Crytek is putting it out there for all to see, no big talk while hiding the game, the vids, behind the scenes work vids, tech breakdown presentaions all speak for themselves, its not all about graphics though, a game could have superb visuals and suck or decent visuals and kick ass in the fun dept but to downplay what Crytek is doing here at least for now from a visual standpoint is fanboyish talk, spin, spin, spin, but it is what it is.

[abzdine]

this is game i have no interest in.. seems linear as hell... and those QTEs at every fight..urghh!!

The most interesting game is definitely Quantum Break! It's still CG but seems interesting!

[tokugawa]

abzdine

leave it out, everyone knows that you a pathetic sony fanboy.

why are you in here?

[blackmanone]

Accordingly to tokugawa anyone with a viewpoint other than his is a fanboy. Sigh, some gamers have a lot of growing up to do.

Edit: He's here for the same reason you are. How do you not get that? Does that make you a fanboy, too? Of course it doesn't. Asking that only makes you seem like a troll.

[Ju]

a) there is no such thing as "seamless lod transition". This would require "vertex morphing" and "interpolation" which would be so expensive that the whole purpose of using LOD in the first place becomes irrelevant.

and b) "playing through cut scenes" means exactly that. The cut scene models are run by the game engine - sure an achievement - but it does not mean, "you play cut scenes", because you don't.

And Joke's..for someone who doesn't care about "console power superiority" you are trying quite hard to make the XBone something it isn't. The whole thing is MS/Crytek marketing at work. Why didn't they in fact publish the LODs for the model and tell which is used where? They have nothing to hide, don't they?

Crytek does this quite well with Ryse. It uses state of the art technology to squeeze from the XBone whatever they can. Quite an achievement, I give them that. Nothing what others haven't done before though.

[mrmarx]

it's going to be trash.. i played for over 25 years i know garbage when i see it. i bet it will get a 7 or 7.5 rating when it comes out

[Funantic1]

No way is this getting a 7. It's getting at least a 8.5 maybe a 9. Killzone Shadow Fall might get 7 -7.5.

[ABeastNamedTariq]

@Fun

What makes you say that? From what I've seen, gameplay looks great. Hopefully it feels great. Or... is your inner fanboy just coming out?

[AceBlazer13]

you would think more gamers would have this intuition by now.

[fpshooter2]

Why is it whenever a new KZ game comes out people like to say it brings nothing new to the genre? But they praise a game like C.o.D to high heaven.

KZ is an excellent series and Ive enjoyed every installment of it. Cant wait for shadow fall day one.

[Heisenburger]

A 7.5 isn't trash, boy.

[GodGinrai]

"Why is it whenever a new KZ game comes out people like to say it brings nothing new to the genre?"

To be fair KZ does not bring its own contribution to FPS as a genre. Its just eye candy with descent game mechanics. nothing more. you would call it an average game if it wasnt so pretty.

[slimpickens]

"i played for over 25 years i know garbage when i see it."

That's nothing to be honest. I've been gaming for 36 years and know you can't judge a game until you've actually played it.

[fpshooter2]

My point is the fps genre is really saturated. I never see any complaints about any other shooters not being innovative. Why does this always seem to fall on the shoulders of GG. And how can anyone be so sure of what the game is doing without having played it.

To be honest i play a lot of shooters and very few of them bring anything new, but i still enjoyed them no less. I may be in the minority but i play kz because i honestly like the story and the characters. The fact thats its on the ps4 with awesome graphics and more open just makes it that much better for me.

[H0RSE]

At the very least, KZ will get a high(er) rating, just to spite xbox... same with Ryse getting a low(er) rating.

[fpshooter2]

Horse

Oh. Like how heavily sword got put down because it was a ps3 exclusive. That game can still hold its own to this day with brand new games. KZ doesn't need ryse to fail so it can succeed. Check the pre-orders its well on its way to success already.

[KingTrash]

I played it at Comic-Con. It's not that fun to play but anyone arguing that this game is anything less than visually stunning is an idiot. This is easily the best looking next gen game I've seen so far. It's absolutely gorgeous.

[trywizardo]

@cee773 dude you're really dumbass they said the main character facial details have 150,000 the face alone ...
@enemy heavy rain was a game for mini-pressing game and the character facial details wasn't as good as L.A noire and uncharted 3 looks really good but this thing is better , and how do you compare a racing game to a action game ??!!

[Blackdeath_663]

people discussing polygon counts are silly it may have been relevent a few years back during ps1 and ps2 days but now its completely irrelevant because of diminishing returns. 150,000 polygons will look exactly the same as 200,000polygons as this pic explains http://a.yfrog.com/img618/8...

[trywizardo]

@blackdeath_663 actually this pic shows the importance of the polygons look at 6000 then 60000 there are a huge difference between them and that happens to 150,000 polygons ^_^

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

No, the image doesn't. Yes the 60,000 ver. does look a tad better. But that's 60,000, and it's already extremely smooth. You can't get much better than that in an easy to notice way. If anything, I think developers should work on collision and such more. Lara Croft's hair going through her neck with tressFX on is a ideal example of the lack of advancement in collision.

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

I have a feeling this game will be really short.. these kind of games always are.

[trywizardo]

i guess the campaign may last 15H minimum (just guess) and there are multiplayer for it , sooo its not that bad ^_^

[CYCLEGAMER]

I wouldn't mind that, as long as the story is really good, and I truly enjoy the game.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

Regardless of how many polygons there are, if the core gameplay isn't fun, then this game is worthless. Worry less about polygons and more on fun!

[Gemmol]

lol people say this for Nintendo system, but they get ignored lol

[Bigpappy]

It is a gory sword game with great graphics and runs at 60 fps. I think there is some fun to be had in there even if short lived.

[IRetrouk]

Bigpappy, i think the game runs at around 30fps, there was a video posted last week about it. Not that thats a bad thing.

[pyramidshead]

@bigpappy
the game struggled to maintain 30fps. :/

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

30fps for an action game is never a good thing. There is a 60fps standard for action games. Takes Ninja Gaiden, or Devil May Cry 3 , even Metal Gear Rising. What made them great games? Not story, that's for sure. But definitely the absurdly fast reactionary based gameplay which you can only really do at 60fps.

[Psn800]

Yeah the game looks really good .

[CalibriSerif]

those 5 billions transistors are working extra-hard doubled with the power of the cloud!

Even the extra 53Mhz is a miracle!

[andrewsqual]

This game was announced at E3 2010 as a current gen game and, up until 4 months ago, was a Kinect only game before moving to the Xbox One. Crytek have not made a good game since the original Far Cry released in 2003.
Why any of these things are an automatic indication of a great game is beyond me.

[Old McGroin]

@ andrewsqual

I think you mean why any of these things are an automatic indication of a bad game is beyond me.

[Seafort]

Hey it's true Crytek has always been a mediocre developer no matter what platform they are developing for.

All they are famous for is their arrogant CEO and pretty graphics.

Don't expect much from Ryse as it's changed direction quite a few times. Wasn't it meant to be a kinect game for current gen console?

Now its a next gen game without kinect but with added QTEs.

[FamilyGuy]

Ryse looks like trash to me, I really don't understand the hype.
It doesn't look all that great, the main character may be high in triangles but it's a really bland looking character model. He's extremely plain looking.
The movements all look scripted likes it's on rails. Sightseeing with no off-the-path venturing.
The fighting is nothing but slowed down quick time events. It wants to look like 300 and Sparticus during the attack sequences but with it slowing down during those button press moments it loses a lot of tension compared to something like Heavy Rain where you had to frantically do the quick time events during high tension scenes.
On top of all that it looks like it's gonna be a short game, like 9 hours or less. I can't justify/explain this one, it just gives me that vibe.

Console preferences aside, I just don't understand the excitement. The theme is cool, I like Roman Empire dated stuff but this just doesn't look fun. It looks like it's still meant to be a Kinect game.

[slimpickens]

I think the game looks really good with deep visuals and hopefully game play. This game is also going for that Rome vibe and doing a good job at it. Why anybody would compare it to Heavy rain is beyond me and just shows some people simply have lower expectations. It was never described exactly what type of game Ryse was intended to be but the removal of Kinect was definitely a good choice and paid off. Day one with my XBO console. I could careless about the competition because the games I prefer are all coming to the console of my choice.

[assdan]

Is that a lot of ppolygons? With no reference it means nothing. That's almost like saying servers have more processing power than the entire world did in 1996.

[3-4-5]

Art Style & Skill at being an artist matters more than how many polygons a character has.

* That is like bragging about how many canvas's you have to paint on, but lacking the ability to actually paint well or skillfully.

[Cyb3r]

Me too

[Starbucks_Fan]

you must really like money

[Blank]

You must really like starbucks. Sorry I couldnt resist lol.

[Starbucks_Fan]

lol I actually prefer Dunkin Donuts XD. I would change my username if I could. Starbucks is too expensive.

[no_more_heroes]

You can change your username. I used to post under the name golden_cannon but I changed it.

no_more_heroes sounds more edgy ;)

/jk

[AutoCad]

day uno

[wishingW3L]

day juan

[Snookies12]

day ichi

Nah seriously, hopefully it has some decent gameplay to back up the visuals. Else it's all for naught.

[Jazz4108]

Day one for me. Cant wait for the new gen to start. Im really burnt out on the current gen.

[Mounce]

http://dlb-network.com/2012...

2012 article, Naughty Dog is already all over doing muccccch more. In Naughty Dog we trust.

[Spoons]

Have a feeling that's not true if Crytek is only pushing 150k, but if it is doing 1 million then that is simply amazing.

[RyuCloudStrife]

In the tech demo Quantic Dream did on the PS4 The Dark Sorcerer had about 1 million polygons

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

[HammadTheBeast]

Killzone Shadow fall is pushing 40 k in NPC background characters alone.

I wonder how many the main character has.

[Spoons]

@HammadTheBeast

They won't need polygons for the main character, it is a fps.

So really there is 40k polygons for npc's, I'd wager that there is that or more in the npc's from Ryse too.

And as for the tech demo that has 1 million polygons I think it goes without saying that we all know we won't see graphics like that for a very long time or even not at all.

[HammadTheBeast]

The Killzone thing was a joke.... keep it classy N4G.

However, GT5 has cars with 500 k poly counts. In the early PS3 game LAIR, the rider and it's dragon had 150 k polygons.

http://www.gameartisans.org...

[starchild]

@HammadTheBeast

In guerrilla's presentation they never said the 40,000 polygons were for NPC background characters. I've looked at the slides myself.

Here is what Digital Foundry said about it:

"For in-game characters, the PS3 game used three different LOD models (more polygons used the closer you are to the character in question), up to 10,000 polygons and 1024x1024 textures. Things have changed significantly for PlayStation 4 with seven LOD models and a maximum of 40,000 polygons and up to six 2048x2048 textures."

Nothing about it only being used for background NPCs. Even if the main character does use more polygons, I seriously doubt that it will be significantly more that the other characters. Maybe around 60,000.

[Salooh]

When Quantic Dream create a demo they make the game better then the demo . So we will see ..

150k is still impressive though ^^ .

[zebramocha]

@kingdom scroll down some.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

[Muerte2494]

Direct feed screenshots say otherwise....

Ryse
http://abload.de/img/image_...

ShadowFall

http://abload.de/img/kzsfod...

now compare those textures. Come one guys really?

[starchild]

@Muerte2494

I'm not sure which game you are trying to say has better textures, but the textures in both of those screenshots look pretty bad to be honest.

But when you just see the games being played they both look fantastic.

http://area.autodesk.com/oo... at around the 10:15 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[No_Limit]

Are you guys not entertained with 150,000 polygons!?

[Ju]

Yeah, ~150k @ LOD0. 260 joints in the face - in the close up. And goes down to 10 (!). So, what we knew before. LOD0 is really only used for cut scenes (according to Evans). You'd probably never see that while playing the game.

[Mounce]

Don't forget as well. This says MARIUS, the main character, is 150K. That doesn't mean EVERY character will be of that quality.

[Abriael]

You forget all the cloth and armor physics simulation, and that there are a ton of characters on screen here.

Mind you, naughty dog does great as well, but you're comparing apples to oranges.

[starchild]

I'm sure Naughty Dog will put out something amazing because they are one of the most talented and skillful developers around.

That said, this Naughty Dog job listing doesn't mean that in-game models will be one million polygons because characters are always modeled at a higher polygon count in a modeling program and reduced for use in-engine.

[Kingdom Come]

Naughty Dog are phenomenal developers, but, when it comes to them discussing and presenting games prior to release they can not always be trusted:

http://www.lazygamer.net/ps...

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Lol, @ the disagrees.

[specialguest]

Im waiting to see someone try to argue against this fact instead of only disagreeing.

[aceitman]

like this pic from forza 4
http://i140.photobucket.com...
http://i.imgur.com/3DqMpDV....

[wishingW3L]

I always thought that UC3's graphics were gimped for the inclusion of 3D because if you play UC2 it looks way better. But UC3's set piece are still the best I've seen this gen and nothing comes even close to match it.

[Skips]

A pre rendered trailer (which most games this gen had) is more understandable than Crytek going so far as to calling Crysis 3 a "Masterpiece"...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

Crysis 3 a Masterpiece??? LMFAO!

and @WrAiTh Sp3cTr3 and specialguesst...

I guess the same could be said about Turn 10 Studios???

http://i.imgur.com/3DqMpDV....

EDIT: Looks like aceitman beat me to it. lol

[kewlkat007]

Wow..didn't think Naughty did that sh!t

[tokugawa]

skips

i was looking for you in the thread. remember in the ryse blog when i mentioned the sail tearing and you tried to downplay it??

http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

http://area.autodesk.com/oo... well if you haven't already seen the vid, then watch it. because at the end crytek talk about.

also, did you manage to find something on the same level in gow??

how would you like your crow?

[Thatmattkid]

I noticed the last of us was very different also. The game was amazing but there were little touches missing that I noticed during their E3 presentation.

[Skips]

WOW! Disagrees and no arguments???

Looks like I hit a nerve here...

@tokugawa

That sail doesn't fix all the other problems in Ryse bud...

http://i.imgur.com/qIBNIBo....

Exact reused character models/animations, floating bodies, NPC's sinking into the ground, etc. etc

[theWB27]

Oh really...cause a job listing says a lot right? Here's a further explanation.

http://www.officialplaystat...

"But there’s more to it than meets the eye, as we found out when we caught up with 3D World’s technical editor Rob Redman: “The PS3 almost definitely couldn’t handle [million-poly models], especially not while running lights, normal mapping, anti-aliasing and the geometry for other characters and environments.”

“It just doesn’t have the memory available. Or the graphics processing power,” Rob elaborates. But that isn’t as clear an indication of a PS4 project as is seems, as Rob explains: “almost every game character these days starts of as a high resolution model with tens of millions of polygons.”

“These are then baked into a set of texture files, either displacement or normal maps, that give the lower res model the look of the fully detailed.”

So just because someone’s working on creating million-poly models, that doesn’t neccessarily mean they’ll show up in the game in such high detail. Perhaps Naughty Dog were already in million-poly territory with Uncharted 3 before scaling it down? Let’s take a look at the development shots from a little behind-the-scenes blog Naughty Dog posted:

Nice try though Mounce

[porkChop]

Did you bother reading the article Mounce posted? You're talking about Naughty Dog on PS3, whereas the article was talking about Naughty Dog on PS4. Whether 1m poly models were possible on PS3 is completely irrelevant here.

Nice try though theWB27

[theWB27]

@porkChop
I read his article. Did you bother reading what I posted?

In the quote Rob says-"Almost every game character these days starts off as a high res model with tens of millions of polygons. These are then baked into a set of texture files, either displacement or normal maps, that give the lower res model the look pf the fully detailed."

Then it ends with-So just because someone’s working on creating million-poly models, that doesn’t neccessarily mean they’ll show up in the game in such high detail. Perhaps Naughty Dog were already in million-poly territory with Uncharted 3 before scaling it down?

Should I break it down more? Just because they are creating million poly figures, doesn't mean they'll show up in game at a million polys. Crysis 3 isn't even pushing a million in game polys...stop dreaming.

[PSVita]

@thewb27- Your whole arguments based off a quote for the ps3. Should I break it down for you more?

It was posted on jan 25th before the PS4 reveal. So before the person that wrote this article even knew the Specs.

[theWB27]

@PSVita

I don't care if it was posted last year. The most demanding PC games out there don't push a million polygons. PS4 won't be either...so a tech demo or a job listing doesn't change the fact that the PS4 won't be pushing million poly in game characters...period.

About the PS3 bit- it's there for you to read. Characters start off at high poly counts...learn to read and not see what you want to see.

PS4 WILL NOT BE PUSHING MILLION POLY CHARACTERS. It's not even Sony's fault for the way numb skulls think about this machine. Shame...

[M-M]

What's up with the damage control? I only game on Playstation since it's my console of choice, but you don't see me going in Xbox articles trying to find a way to bash it.

[SlavisH2]

trolling hard this has nothing to do with this article smh

[Heartnet]

Game not made or shown off.. this article holds 0 evidence for this aside from a job listing? dude that oculd just be for cinematics or a demo for their game..

creating million poly models is easy but getting them to render and be dynamic in a real time environment wont be possible..

[corvusmd]

Be careful with this one...it's very vague, it could be just a tech demo or something of that sort. Not to mention that as we see Ryse is a game that is incorporating destruction and such...if you don't do that to the level that Crytek did, then you can free things up to make higher poly-counts. These characters are that high poly count in game...not cutscene only. However, more important than all of this...Ryse at 150k looks amazing, wasting time to create a 1 mil poly count character at this point may end up being a waste of time/resources and go unnoticed

[Tontus]

Do you not understand game development? In every single game you play artists create the characters in Zbrush using millions of polygons and then convert all the displacement into normal maps which uses a tiny fraction of the amount of polygons used to originally create it but with a comparable result. The characters that you play as in Naughty Dogs new game will not have 1,000,000 polygons in-game, don't be so naive with your 'in Naughty Dog we trust' nonsense.

Ryse is an incredible looking game, people should stop talking about polygons when they don't even understand what they're talking about and just focus on what you can actually see.

[jah-Fu]

A naughty dog comment and a link on a ryse article for XO. So damn lame. God who gives a shit. I just don't get it. It's like me caring what the price of an aardvark milk bath is in Africa.

[Lovable]

I better see the pores on his skin.

[Pancit_Canton]

I thought you said you want to see his foreskin. I was like WTF. lol

[Cherchez La Ghost]

This looking like a day one purchase also.

Forza 5
Watchdogs
Assassin's Creed
Battlefield 4
Ryse
Dead Rising 3

Yea, buddy!! I'm having some fun in the winter, baby!!

[PFFT]

I highly agree!

[KEEPNITREAL]

@ Cherchez La Ghost
I have those preordered also but not assassin's creed ( it can wait a few weeks ) , I have Killzone and COD Ghosts instead . I can't resist those shooters !! Epic battles during holidays !!!!!

[bigfish]

Big WoW......150,000 polys is nothing new for PS3 owners.. lets wait and see how many the PS4 can push for the lead character. I wont be surprised if the figure is double that

[Abriael]

150k in one character among a ton on screen isn't exactly small.

[M-M]

Polygons aren't everything. In instances yes, it does make the models look better, but there are ways to use a low amount of polys and have them look like they were high poly count models.

[CC-Tron]

At a distance yes. Up close not so much.

[LogicStomper]

I find it hilarious that you don't talk about how it looks on its own, but rather compare it to your favoured console exclusives. It's like, can't you give credit where credit is due?

Say you compare two 10/10 movies. You would be the one that is like "Well movie one has this and looks better than movie two. Movie two is crap compared to movie one"
Even though both are 10/10 movies, you try to belittle one and make it look like trash by judging it *relative* to your favoured movie.

[jah-Fu]

I bet according to you the ps4 cures cancer. Press the power button and tumors disappear. Pick up the controller and your allergies are eliminated. Need to take a crap but too busy playing Knack, squeeze and hold both triggers and say "make me poo" into your earbud.

[saint_seya]

I see a lot of comments about ps3/ps4 games, or saying that is not much and other things.
I dun get why people come to say that, im a big sony fan, yet i came here to read about this game, to see how it looks, and knows a bit more, because im a fan, not a blind one that things xbox cant have a good game. Please stop this, i hate this kind of trolling.

On topic: This game seems to look cool, i have to wait and see before judging, but it looks cool so far, i need to see gameplay to see how it looks, but so far looking good.

[M-M]

Thought I was the only one, things are starting to get a little out of hand lately.

[Saddam_hussein]

It's gettin to the point where I don't even bother reading any articles or just avoiding the site.

[torchic]

wtf! you are chief troll buddy!

[starchild]

Thanks, guys. I feel the same way. I am mostly a PC gamer, but I also own a PS3 and 360 and I plan to get a PS4 near launch, but I hate all the mindless negativity and trolling that goes on.

[bigfish]

@Saint_seya
Dude Chill Out! ,, if your a football fan you will support your team and put the other team down at every possible opportunity,, it adds another dimension to the sport.The same thing applies here, its nothing personal and not its not trolling...... its all meant in good and competitive spirit. . take a chill pill and loosen up.

[GameCents]

You are a retard...in a good and competitive spirit so take no offence.

[BallsEye]

There is plenty of gameplay mate. like almost 10 mins? Check e3 stage demo.

[Pancit_Canton]

Quantic Dream are already pushing 6X times as much on The Dark Sorcerer.

[theWB27]

Dark Sorcerer isn't a game. It's a tech demo. The tech demo was pushing that. No physics, no character interaction, a small room. No sunlight...it was a tech demo.

[HammadTheBeast]

There was lighting, particle effects (millions), the whole set piece going on, the interaction between the character models, and physics for the hair and clothing on the sorcerer/imp.

[corvusmd]

True it was all prescripted, poly counts in tech demos are ALWAYS tons higher. Pulling the Dark Sorcerer tech demo excuse out just looks scared and desperate. If your thing is watching a tech demo over and over that's great, but I prefer games that I can play.

[claterz]

corvusmd
Actually, Quantic Dream used lower polygon counts for "the casting" tech demo for heavy rain. Also there was a difference of 10,000 polygons between the "Kara" tech demo and the characters in Beyond. There's quite a significant difference visually between their tech demos and the final game.

Obviously most tech demos don't represent actual gameplay, but QD have managed to improve upon them in their past two games. I guess that could be due to the nature of their games but that's besides the point. I just don't think we should rule out the possibility of them doing the same thing again by matching/improving upon the sorcerer demo.

[WeAreLegion]

Every tech demo they've ever done...they outdid when the game released. So, I wouldn't question Quantic Dream.

[Sitdown]

The Dark Sorcerer is the new Milo..... :-P

[acdata]

ps4 Killzone4 40k vs Xbox one Ryse 150K

[SlavisH2]

Ryse spec
https://securecdn.disqus.co...

KZ spec
https://securecdn.disqus.co...

[wishingW3L]

it's 40k for NPC's not main character. -___-

[Foxgod]

Well, the main character isnt even visible....

[HammadTheBeast]

Killzone 40 k on NPC's and the environments don't look like trash.

[memots]

wow .. so now this idiotic war is down to counting polygon..

Never mind that your comparison is from a main Character on screen vs multiple Npc... sheesh these juvenile argument just never ends.

[taz8080]

Why is everyone comparing KZ and Ryse? Two totally different style of games. It's almost like comparing apples and oranges. KZ needs a seedless engine and not necessarily great graphics forit to thrive as its a shooter.

[insomnium2]

Yeah I'm so not going to participate a pissing contest this lame. Let's see how games are once they come out shall we. The gameplay and all together reviewed and stuff. Then we'll talk.

[nypifisel]

So what's the NPC poly count then? Main characters always use substantially more polygons than world NPCs. Seeing how KZ4 is an FPS it does not need to spend anything on its main character. How detailed is the world, light engine etc comparing the two? See you're being stupid.

[SpideySpeakz]

Gameplay over Graphics.

That's all I care about. And it looks that Killzone is killing it.

[Potato2]

Killzone has both.

[joefrost00]

Gameplay it looks like KZ3 that looked like KZ2 with snow and jet packs

[zyphee]

For people who are game artist may seem like alot but its really not. I modeled a jar of pencils that was 70k polygons so yeah

[specialguest]

Well whoopie-doo... you render 1, count that 1 thing in a static, plain, and non interactive environment. Quick! Someone hire this guy since he's clearly more talented than veteran video game cg artist.

[Skate-AK]

In development for a year and a half? It has been a lot longer than that.

[HammadTheBeast]

Year and a half to probably get the game ported from 360 to One and to make it less kinect focused.

[PraxxtorCruel]

You have a lot of negative stuff to say about the XBOX and its games, don't ya?

[drsfinest72]

Why the hell this guy has 5 bubbles still? Oh yeah that's right cause he love sony, right ?

[pyramidshead]

@drsfinest72
he stated truth? lol Ryse was a kinect game, you can probably still find the original teaser trailer for it somewhere.

[Dread]

Lol

[Loki86]

He said the Maya Pipeline has been in development for 1 1/2 years.

[Animal Mutha 76]

Why the hell are there PS3/4 related comments in this thread?

For heavens sake people, if an article is about Xbox One game tech why do we need to start talking about Naughty Dog?

You just can't help it can you.

Looking forward to seeing how this game runs on launch.

[SlavisH2]

what do you expect there to be mods or something... oh wait smh

[Animal Mutha 76]

Yes, yes I do.

I also expect rational adults to moderate themselves in being on topic and not overtly biased.

Therein lies the problem...

[Clarence]

Because Xbox fans are comparing KZ 4 to ryes

[christocolus]

Sony fans started that argument mentioning ryse would score a 7 or 7.5 and the guy responded saying KillZone in his opinion also looked like a game which would score 7 and from there comparisons started.. See anyways what are sony fans doing here again? N4G must be really lacking pro sony or pro ps4 articles. You guys bombared and follow ms and xbox one articles so relentlesly that if i wasnt mistaken i would say you guys secretly admire and want an xbox one.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Main Character & NPC
http://i.imgur.com/5sQrRwJ....
http://i.imgur.com/5jKoPbt....

New Facial Tech
http://i.imgur.com/RpD37Ar....

New Geomcache features (Also New Destruction features)
Geomcahce utilise XB1 to create new efficient cache based pipeline
http://i.imgur.com/2whluE9....

Deform/Destruction (Collosal)
http://i.imgur.com/2PwdHjh....
http://i.imgur.com/B7gIfON....

Geomcache in detail
http://i.imgur.com/DMpcRXf....

New Engine enabling Film practice to game in realtime (Film look , etc)
http://i.imgur.com/GPmCmLv....

New Engine Features advantages
http://i.imgur.com/GSXYeGc....

[PFFT]

Damn man 3 disagrees just cause you posted facts about the game.........These Sony fanboys are sad sad little people.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Yeah it's sad. Najority of them are still in shock from e3. A supposedly low spec console running high end graphics.

[Re-versed]

@FrigidDARKNESS
You mean on windows 7?

[corvusmd]

Wow looks awesome, and the destruction stuff looks awesome...I love how much easier it seems to be for developers to create accurate like this. I can't wait

[thetruthx1]

150,000 polygons is no small feat and keep in mind this game will have 100 characters on screen at one time in some scenes while other games typically have a small amount of enemies, npc's etc

[Bigpappy]

And run at 60 fps

[thetruthx1]

@Bigpappy it'll run at 30 fps the same as Killzone only with way more rendered objects on screen and better character models

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Keep in mind that all the video is from pre-alpha build. The Gamescom demos will be beta version with improved graphics AI and gameplay.

[ziggurcat]

You don't even know what pre-alpha means, do you...

[memots]

lol most of them don't ... Just let him troll

[ziggurcat]

the fact of the matter is that the game they showed at E3 was in its *ALPHA* stage, not pre-alpha.

a pre-alpha game is in its early stage of development (which can be anywhere from 1 month - 6 months depending on milestone they've set for themselves), it doesn't have all of its assets in place, it's very unstable (i.e. it crashes if you look at it the wrong way), etc...

you people clicking disagree clearly haven't worked in QA before. i worked in video game QA for several years, so frigid is wrong in stating that the game shown at E3 was pre-alpha.

frigid is correct, though, that the game will be in its beta stage once gamescom rolls around.

[90Supra]

yea....and just like at E3, they'll be running on high-end PCs with Nvidia 700 series GPUs onboard...

[darkequitus]

Confirmed running of Xbox One. Try again, troll.

Eurogamer: "Our hands-on involves a short five minute demo that is once again categorically running on Xbox One hardware."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[PFFT]

Yep! Crytek already stated that. According to them they said that the gamescom version will indeed have improved graphics and gameplay.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

The visuals may be fine but the gameplay looks "meh" to me.

[Hazmat13]

we are getting that much closer to unreal games and life like characters. Ryse does look good. I might get a X1 when in it gets a price drop (i work at target so BLACK Friday this year might be fun) so odds are at black friday. but year great looking games form both parties. PS4 and X1 cant wait for next gen!

[coolasj]

This matters because Polygons ARE Emotions. There's a direct correlation. /s

[wishingW3L]

they are what you see, so your comment is more like sarcasm fail.

[coolasj]

It literally says /s on the end. Does the internet not get it anymore? Also, I was quoting Jim Sterling.

[That_Ninja_Gray_Fox]

Ryse. A game made by some dork who watched Troy to many times.

[True_Samurai]

^^^ hate level is over 9000

[memots]

Nice ..... lol ,

Trueninja you literally made me laugh really loud. Thanks for that

[Software_Lover]

Wow. Did anyone else watch Project Spark, after Forza? Totally surprised me. Looks good. Looks very good.

[Psychotica]

Looks good but I don't care for the flash game, hit the x button, wait then hit the Y button...

[Saddam_hussein]

Like God of war, or heavy rain?

[Tontus]

You've obviously never played God of War in your life, you should play it before you trash talk it, play it on hard if your such a hardcore gamer. You might even forget about any bias you have and really enjoy it.

[Scatpants]

Like God of War if it sucked.

[joefrost00]

listen they already said the QTEs will be turned off and the slow motion turned down on harder difficulty level
But you sony fans keep bringing it up
but I know why cause that is really the only complaint you all have
I find it funny that yall complain about being repetitive and praise KZ shadowfall
lol

[Software_Lover]

Play it on hard mode. You won't have that.

[PFFT]

Yep you wont have none of that.

[alb1899]

I don't understand how people are comparing this with unchared's character!
I never have seen an action character that looks so natural talking and making facial expressions like this one from Ryse, in any console!
Plus, if this game gameplay is similar as batma combat as some articles suggest........ohhhh man!

[kostchtchie_]

no point being GRAPHICALLY IMPRESSIVE if its just another run the mill yellow brick road game with no re playability

[thetruthx1]

This game also has co-op Gladiator style arena killing

I'm opening this game case 1st on day one

[TheGreatGamer]

The game demo shown at E3 seemed a bit pre-determined i would like to see more gameplay as Crytek have always made great games

[jackanderson1985]

when the hell did gaming turn into who has the slightly better graphics? as i've said before never has a game been sold to me because it looks great, hell if i wanted to look at beautiful things i'd look out the window

gameplay first, graphics way down the line in my opinion

[insomnium2]

I agree with you 100%.

I still know what happened since I was on this site when it happened.It turned to graphics when x360 fanboys and the media trashed PS3. They said x360 is more powerfull and trashed CELL using FEAR and other first wave multiplats as proof. I think it was so silly for them to do it and that's why people are still stuck on graphics. Propaganda can be seen as quite a negative thing.

[acdata]

they are not trashed ps3, they are saying the true ps3 even can't run SKYRIM,....UC2,3 and LOU are games with painted texture ,fix camera angle and heavily scripted AI and events. this type of game can easily run in any system.

[insomnium2]

Oh dear....

[slimpickens]

It all started after the announcement of PS3. MS and it's fans talked trash about Xbox being more powerful which upset the Sony fanboys who claimed Xbox sucked and wouldn't be around long. At first graphics didn't matter but PS3 went for graphics and all of a sudden it mattered. Now Sony and it's fans have some type of strange logic where they think graphics are everything and they have to always be better then XBO. The truth is both consoles have there strong points but MS is going for more than just pushing the message of "hey we have the strongest console" bull crap.

[GentlemenRUs]

Texture quality/size > Polycount

Who needs tons of polys when one can have a few but with a fantastic looking model texture! 2048x2048 anyone?

[Scatpants]

Zero interest in this. Gameplay looks like garbage.

[insomnium2]

If this really is an hack and slash game with most of the gameplay going for QTE I agree. I think we should wait and see though before trashing the game.

[MotoDot]

Press X you win , don't press X you still win

[busytoad]

I Bet 1000 Dollars its running on a PC, microsoft loves to show propaganda screens/videos b4 they launch thier consoles,tablets,and the crapy zune just so they can fool kids into believing its the greatest thing ever.

[alb1899]

Tell that to SONY and Kill Zone 2!

[CEOSteveBallmer]

the first gears of war demo shown before release was awesome, but when the retail came out, its far off from the original foootage and people complained why it looks different graphically. So i know whos the one using smoke and mirrors to sell their product. Sony delivered that graphics in a later year of PS3 life, maybe you have not seen uncharted 2 and 3?

[bsquwhere]

I honestly wanna know why Xbox fans bash GOW all the time for QTEs, but when a next generation game has them every 3 minutes its OK on the Xbox?

[DoctorJones]

I want to know why there are so many Playstation fans being off-topic in an Xbox article.

[aLiEnViSiToR]

Damn... too bad this is not on PC too :[ would really love to play it...

[90Supra]

You never know...

It was running on PCs at E3...

[joefrost00]

No it wasn't get your facts right
It was confirmed the only games that were running on PC dev kits
Was a handful.of third party and only one game published by MS and that was lococycle
Matter of fact the ps4 had console exclusive games running on PCs
Warframe and planetside2
Ryse looked better anything the ps4 had to offer and eurogamer confirmed they saw it running on an actual X1

[QuantumWake]

*Sigh*

Digital Foundry has already debunked this with their hands-on with the game at E3.

[ziggurcat]

@ joefrost00

oh the irony of telling someone to get their facts straight, and then turning around and saying PS4 had exclusives running on PC. care to share your proof of that unsubstantiated statement?

what 90supra was referring to was likely this:

http://megagames.com/sites/...

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

now before you go spamming disagree or trolling, i'm simply pointing out the likely reference, nothing more.

and this:

"Ryse looked better anything the ps4 had to offer"

is a subjective opinion.

[kenshiro100]

Impressive, but let's see how the game plays.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Hopefully they changed it from a Kinect game, to a QTE game, to an actual third person action game.

[jairusmonillas]

What's with the hype for this game? I watched microsoft E3's and all I saw from Ryze was hack slash and QTE and repeat.. some dynasty warriors wanna be with god of war characters is nothing great to hype about.

[kewlkat007]

This thread reaks of insecurity...hopefully this game is as good as the graphics..probably be my first game for theOne though..

I knew the crooked N4G devs would be out in full force on this article...

[PrimeGrime]

Oh lord people talking about what they can't even understand. There is nothing special about this and I will tell you why.

Sure it is great and higher than most games but in reality it isn't that much higher than what has already been achieved. For one it is never stated what this is used in, during actual game play or cut scenes. Based on all the Ryse images available you notice every game play image looks nothing like the very detailed ones, those are probably cut scenes no doubt. So I guess I will wait on the verdict but I can almost bet on it all the really good images of Ryse are all cut scenes.

The problem with posting an article like this around here is I can bet barely any of you even know the difference between a polygon and a triangle which are the same thing but still used and counted differently. A polygon is basically several triangles or to easier understand, a triangle only has 3 sides and a polygon can have more than 3 sides.

This articles headline first stats 150,000 polygons but then reading it, says 150,000 triangles which makes no sense. So which is it, based on what the presentation stated and not some journalist who knows nothing about this, triangles is what they meant for one character model because I know every game engine out there basically triangulates everything anyway.

If you had a 150,000 polygon count, you would have a higher triangle count.

That is why this article doesn't even make sense with its contradicting headline, you can't have the same number of polygons displaying the same number in triangles. As I said, polygons are triangles just with more sides. Knowing that, that doesn't work because a polygon uses multiple triangles just to create its sides. A program would count each triangle in the polygon.

If it wasn't a polygon, clearly it would just be a 3 sided triangle at that point.

So if this is impressive why aren't there articles about Uncharted 2 on PS3? They used 80,000 polygon count for drake and used 2 million triangle count in total for each frame of that game.

http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

Sadly there isn't much to be impressed about when the PS3 is pushing 80k polygon models and using 2 million triangles for each frame. If they could do that on the PS3, this shouldn't even be special 150,000 on Next Gen.

Also goes to show, one character model is not that important. What is the entire total used for each frame of detail in the game? That is much more important than knowing the count for one model.

[MasterCornholio]

Thanks for debunking the article. Like always fanboys tend to exaggerate things.

Motorola RAZR i

[HappyTrigger]

Actually, the art director for Uncharted 2 has stated that the poly count for Drake was at 37,000. http://www.zbrushcentral.co...

If you watched the presentation, one of the features they mentioned called "Play the Cutscene" where whether you're in the cutscene or gameplay there is only one rig and you can zoom in and the character would still have the same graphical fidelity as if you were still in the cutscene.

If you were to determine the polygon count of the character, you will go by the amount of triangles as seen in these examples:

http://oi33.tinypic.com/i1l...
http://oi49.tinypic.com/34h...
http://tinypic.com/view.php...

http://wiki.polycount.com/P...

Go here for a lot more on the poly counts on characters, weapons, etc..:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

EDIT: Oh and by the way, the only reason why there aren't any articles now of the 80,000 poly count of Drake is because the game is 4 years old. And since you joined this site just this year, you probably don't remember we did have an article posted here on N4G about it.

[Salooh]

Thanks , another information i acknowledged :P

O+

[starchild]

Too bad that in your attempt to "set the record straight" you actually got most of your facts wrong and ended up misleading people.

A triangle IS a polygon, period. It is a three-sided polygon. People saying otherwise don't understand basic geometry. The kinds of polygons that are used in game engines and that are processed by graphics hardware are triangles.

Modeling software like Zbrush use 4-sided polygons called quadrilaterals, which are in turn each comprised of two triangles, but when these models are put into the game engine everything is seen as triangles.

When developers talk about the number of "triangles" or the number of "polygons" in their games they are referring to exactly the same thing. They aren't going to talk about the poly count as it was in Zbrush because that isn't what the engine works with...it's already been converted.

http://wiki.polycount.com/P...
"The two common measurements of a game character's 'cost' are polygon count and vertex count. Polygon is interchangeable with triangle in these measurements, as GPUs only see vertices and triangles, not 4+ sided polygons. Depending on the use, a game character may stretch anywhere from 200-300 triangles, to 40,000+ triangles. A high-end third-person console or PC game may use many vertices or triangles per character, and an iOS tower defense game might use very few per character."

"When a game artist talks about the poly count of a model, they really mean the triangle count. Games almost always use triangles not polygons because most modern graphic hardware is built to accelerate the rendering of triangles."

[Dobgamers]

That is some impressive stuff, really!

[rammstein91]

the only one game that i liked on xone console,but i'm still buying ps4 dayone

[Marius_Titus]

Sony has no worthy opponents to face me in the arena.

[MasterCornholio]

Kratos?

He might be to much for you though.

[christocolus]

Day one.....keep it up ms

[AllroundGamer]

graphics looks nice, but i don't think the gameplay will be fun after a while of excessive QTEs... also Crytek isn't known for having the best gameplay experience. And they even copied Saving private Ryan so there won't be probably many original ideas in the game either.

[sharkraiden0]

This Graphics/physics is nice but this is not what i waited this graphics is pretty similar to the latest pc/ps3 exclusive games no BIG differences.

[imt558]

Very nice. But i see some pop-ups on Marius kilt at 12:00.

And fringes on Marius kilt is moving pretty unnatural.

But polygons and triangles are not the same. For example : Lara Croft 2013 is made of 42K polygons.

[iistuii]

Lets just say the game turns out to be crap, it looks incredible. What I'm getting at is the X1 is showing some great looking games on par or better than the more powerful PS4, so it's looking good for X1 potential owners after all the flack. But all the talk & YouTube videos won't sway me. I wanna play the console myself before I part with any cash.

[SugarSoSweet]

Game looks boring as shit

[BG11579]

The problem with Ryse is its DNA.
At the beginning this game was a kinect game for the 360.The graphics may look fine and dandy, yet it's gameplay will be poor with very little interactivity. An example of this, when I played this game at E3, when a quick-time event happened, even if you didn't press any button, the event would follow normally as if you did it correctly.

[urwifeminder]

Ryse and forza5 and maybe dead rising 2 will be great launch titles for me to get, the game looks great cant wait to play it glad its not another fantasy medieval game with dragons and magic lol.

[NateCole]

All these arguments over a QTE game.

[Lazarus69]

Thats impressive but if the gameplay ends up being rubbish whats the point

[plaZeHD]

Current gen looks better http://abload.de/img/joelma...

[joefrost00]

Saying that then you must be really disappointed with the stuff the ps4 showed

[plaZeHD]

Not really, I am just pointing out how bad Ryse really looks.
Ryse ('next gen')
http://static.giantbomb.com...
The Last Of Us (current gen)
http://abload.de/img/iminyo...

[hairy]

Looks great graphicly from what I've seen of it, but knowing it was at one time a Kinect game, makes me think it's going to be a very restricted hand holding experience. This could be The xbox one's Genji

[DynDasE]

QTE... QTE everywhere....

[theFLeXy]

think microsofts "300,000+" cloud servers helped achieve this? lol

[Clarence]

@christocolus
There's no sign stating you can't comment on Xbox articles if your a Sony fan. Ryse looks nice but that's about it. It's gears with swords.

[Foxgod]

Maybe it has something to do with the ridiculous arguments....
I mean, Gears with swords? wheres the logic in that.

[Clarence]

That's not ridiculous. Put a gun in his hand and its gears. He even runs like gears characters. Didn't gears have head stomps, beat player with their arm ect, ect....

I'm not saying the game doesn't look good but its gears with swords. You even have to do certain things like block arrows to move forward to the next area. The game seems to be liner like gears. It's going to get old real quick.

[JokesOnYou]

Clarence oh please, that's too easy:
Uncharted is just Tomb Raider with a male lead character= anybody can make blanket generalizations without laying out both similarities and differences. You might as well say God of War is just like Gears with no guns because they both have bloody violent combat.

You saw the begining of 1 level and yet you already know it will be boring because Gyou already played the game and that's how every level plays out.

[Foxgod]

Seriously guys, if this was on the ps4 you would have touted this to be the holy grail of gaming.
Just look at how sony fans cling to a tech demo and say how awesome it is, and at the same down you guys put down on an actual game that looks stunning.

[CEOSteveBallmer]

I agree and admit ryse is for me the xbox one's graphics king. but to say its better than any the PS4 can offer is subjective. The dark sorcerer is a tech demo yes, but the argument is "who has the best graphics"? tech demo is not a game but it is still "running" realtime on PS4. and lets not forget about the order with character models no matter where you look no jaggies can be seen and even the clothing and weapons are so detailed just like a CGI 3D disney movie. disagree whatever you want because no matter what i say, i know what side you are on. and if RYSE was on PS4, no i will not consider it the "holy grail". maybe you guys have forgotten, "naughty dog and santa monica" have not yet announced on whatever their working on. best graphics on the VGA's 2008-MGS4, 2009-Uncharted 2, 2010-God of war 3, 2011-Uncharted 3. 4 of those games you know what company belongs to. MS only has one 2012-halo 4. because it has no real competition when it comes to graphics only AC3. So if fanboys are talking about graphics, one company stands out over the other. FACT.

[Foxgod]

Considering your nickname, i would say you are a troll.
Your opinion isnt regarded as valuable because of that.

[sorane]

You really shouldn't use VGA awards as examples. It's the bieber/britney spears of award shows....

[Clarence]

I didn't buy the last god of war or gears because I'm tired of both games. If this game was on the PS4 I would pass.

@jokes please. Ryse is going to be very liner the movement is the same as gears plain and simple.

[H0RSE]

Both Ryse and KZ look like they will be visually stunning, but until we actually get to play them, that's all they are right now - pretty games.

Perhaps some of you can point out the relevance of people here linking to other games, or even future projects with no actual content, in an attempt to discredit the relevance of the article? I'm pretty sure the article is not claiming that this is the most graphically technical game ever created in the history of mankind, yet some of you seem to be treating it as such. Are some of you "scared" that this game may boast more impressive stats than you favorite game or a games on your proffered console, thus you feel obligated to try and justify how your opinion(s) are still the better ones? Seems a little desperate and insecure to me...

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good other games look or how many polys they use, even if they look better, because it doesn't change the fact that Ryse is a visually impressive game. Besides, those linking to projects claiming to utilize 1m polys, what do you expect to come form such numbers? Using such a high poly count with current tech methods, it would need to be used very cleverly to yield any sort of impressive result worthy of boasting of, and couldn't be used to render the entire game all the time, just specific parts like perhaps NPC models.

Polys in general are showing their age. The tech needs an update to something more versatile. When tech like this starts showing itself in games, then things will truly start to get interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Jagsrock]

N4G really shows it's true colors when ever there is a positive xbox one article.

[H0RSE]

It doesn't even need to be positive...

[CEOSteveBallmer]

yeah a bunch of xbox fans rejoicing and "Bragging" to other fanboys how good their console is. This is "KARMA" 2006-2008 is when sony and PS3 got so much bashing from xbox boys because they say "it has no gamez!!, we don't need blu ray player, we want a game machine not a media player". well look whos laughing now, xbox one with blu ray. ironic. arguing with an ex-box fan is like talking to wall. no matter if your points are valid, to him its nothing.

[H0RSE]

So the justification you are using for the actions of these people is "karma" (which is nothing more than a religious/spiritual concept) for the events that took place circa 5 yrs. ago, essentially, you are standing by the claim that "two wrongs make a right." Bravo...

[jah-Fu]

Wow. Way to hold a grudge. Pretty childish you can't get over basic things.

[Clarence]

Just like when there were positive PS3 articles.

[-Gespenst-]

More graphics fetishism from Crytek. Cancerous to the games industry.

[CertifiedGamer]

Ryse can have 150,000 or even up to 1 million polygons per character. The truth is Sonic The Hedgehog was 1 million polygons on the Sonic alone, but they didn't give everything else the same type of rendering and dedication so it looked kind of wierd. I have seen the trailer for this game and every bad guy you battle is an exact copy of the last model. Developers should start paying to make tech that can make an approximate similar model to the original. When I see Copies of Copies that is what I consider disappointing because we have the technology to give every character an original look, they did this with Heavy Rain where no two character models ever looked the same.

[darkequitus]

I suggest you actually watch the Autodesk presentation. You then know all the NPC have the say specification as Marius.

[horndog]

But its ok when the ps4 does it with killzone sf and with less polygons, right?? Don't be so bitter my friend. The x1 is a powerful console so just give credit where its due instead of trying to downgrade something you cant and won't have.

BTW ryse and forza are day 1 for me. Its all I can afford at the monent.

[Dfooster]

It looks good graphically but I feel this might let itself down with those quick time button presses. All style and no gameplay.

[imt558]

From CBOAT

•Xbox 1 architecture not fully complete. Latest SDK version (from couple of weeks ago) dropped performance by 15-20% across the board, dont get mad, happens all the time in console dev cycle and eventually will be fixed. No chance of early October release for the Xbone.

So, is this Ryse E3 build really powered by XO or some high-eng PC?

I doubt there will be 150K polygons on Mauris.

[gamer2013]

Troll

[imt558]

Sorry then.:)

[Welcome2Die]

Wow if an Xboned game is looking good I cant wait to see what the PS4 has in store!

[joefrost00]

Im gonna tell you whats gonna happen
sooner or later: Sony will drop a trailer or something to do with GOW4
It will look better than Ryse naturally it suppose to it will be what maybe 2 or 3 years from now but that wont stop sony fanboys from comparing the two
Just look at what they are doing with Infamous SS that game don't come out to half a year after launch
and it still don't look as good as ryse