Nvidia Says GTA 5 is Coming to PC, PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined

CraveOnline writes: "With the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One both set to include AMD chips, you may feel a bit sorry for Nvidia being left out in the cold, but the company doesn't seem too worried. In fact, Nvidia believes that a lot of PC users will invest in new hardware to play games like Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV, and Grand Theft Auto 5. Wait a minute!"

[knifefight]

*Grabs Popcorn*
Late 2013 and all of 2014 are going to be so interesting.

[JonnyBigBoss]

The mods, man. The mods.

Anyone who has played Skyrim on PC knows what I'm talking about.

"OH YEAH! SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM! *fire breath*"

- Macho Man Dragon

[MestreRothN4G]

Red Dead Redemption must be awesome on 1080p... On YouTube.

Try harder, Nvidia. And by that that I mean CRY MORE. haha

[Hydrolex]

GTA V will come to PC, that's no surprise and nothing new...

[B-radical]

Mate i played gta 4 on pc i know what your talking about! the mods! gonna be so good

[ABizzel1]

Oh NVIDIA, your butt-hurt knows no bounds, and you simply just can't shut-up and work towards bettering your company instead of badmouthing everyone else.

You have the most powerful GPU's on the market for now, but rumors show AMD is about to knock you down a notch.

Tegra 4 is getting dominated by Snapdragon S4 as mobile devices first pick.

And AMD has supplied GPU's for all 3 consoles, and CPU's for the PS4 and XB1.

PC sales on whole will significantly surpass console gaming, because there are more PC's in the world than there are consoles. The same with mobile devices. It's logical to see that since more people own PC's and tablets / phones that those devices will bring in more revenue.

The problem is NVIDIA you:

1) Don't make CPU's (outside of Tegra), so you're not getting any of that revenue.

2) You don't make media (games / movies / etc...), so you're not getting any of that revenue.

3) All consoles use AMD, so you're not getting any of that revenue.

4) Project Shield is DOA, so you're not getting any of that revenue.

The only revenue you get is on GPU's and you have to split that with AMD, who will likely be the better choice with all 3 consoles using their GPU's.

Pick up your butt-hurt, put it away, and try again next-gen.

Tegra 5 sounds promising (PS360 graphics on mobile finally), but that's about all you have to brag about (maybe the GTX 800 series in 2014). I think you're a great company (at least you were from 2002 - 2012), but you have got to stop this behavior and get your act together.

[Ducky]

^ It was an earnings conference call and the guy made a statement that you seem to be agreeing with.

I didn't see much badmouthing or signs of butthurt.
Well, actually, that's a lie, I saw plenty of that, but it wasn't from nVidia.

[ABizzel1]

@Ducky

What was the need to bring the consoles into an NVIDIA conference call when NVIDIA has not stakes in any of these consoles. They've been nagging and downplaying PS4 and XB1 from day one, let it go, and try again next-gen.

[Ducky]

^ Consoles were mentioned for comparison's sake.

nVidia makes hardware in the gaming industry, and it's hard to give a presentation on your current and future state without mentioning console gaming and its impact.

So, in their prepared notes, they devoted like four sentences to state that they think PC and mobile gaming will remain strong in the future.
That like what, something which probably made like 2% of their prepared remarks for the conference?

Seemed reasonable to me in any case.

[BattleAxe]

I'm going to wait until GTA5 comes out for PC. Can't wait for this game!

[AuToFiRE]

Also GTAV on the Oculus Rift will be epic. Owning the rift myself, I can vouch its the future..

[RumbleFish]

@MestreRothN4G:

It's true. It's a sad thing that R* didn't release RDR on a platform that really would be able to display the beauty of the world they've created and to do that with a good performance as well. I would have bought it twice, like I did with GTA 4.

Instead of being a troll, be a gamer!

[SolidStoner]

any smart human being can say for sure that GTA5 on High end PC will look 10 times better then any last gen console.. its happening with every game for past 2 years... PS4 could be similar to PC.. at least for next 3 years....

anyways.. we all know that GTA5 will go to next gen platfroms also... R* just dont want to tell, because they want to keep pre order nubers rolling for this gen... and later for next... you will see...! I buying it for this and next PS.. why not..

[windblowsagain]

modded skyrim looks very nice, but it's still an overrated game.

I prefer the original game i pay money for to be awesome.

GTA4 was very overrated.

9's and 10's should not be given out so easily by gaming sites.

[Angeljuice]

@deceiver

Personally, when I look at the graphics on the PS3 version (and the vast improvement made), I can't help but wonder whether this game was actually using the next gen platforms as the lead platform.
This would require the engine to perform a lot of multithreading, which would also benefit the PS3's cell architecture (hence it running so well optimised on PS3).

I believe that PC, XboxOne and PS4 are pretty much done and dusted and just waiting in the wings to be announced (possibly as launch titles for both Next Gen consoles).

[vishmarx]

id be happier if nvidia wasnt the one saying this.
its common knowledge that theyre butthurt and will do just about anything to make consoles look bad.

cant believe im saying this but
may or may not be true

[DeadlyFire]

I don't understand the negativity towards NVIDIA. :P

There is no reason to hate them. Facts are facts.

PC will have more revenue over time. They are evolving to a point where an APU can run a game at full strength some point soon for 1080p anyway. Not counting any extra GPU power.

NVIDIA is making ARM CPUs for 2014/2015. They are building the first full 64-bit ARM Desktop level CPU/APU as well TBD release.

[starchild]

@MestreRothN4G

Oh no! Red Dead Redemption isn't on the PC! Whatever will we do?!

Seriously now, RDR is a damn good game and I wish it was on PC since that is my main platform, but it isn't a big deal. Most gamers own more than one system and I am no different--I own a PS3 and a 360 in addition to my PC.

It's not like other systems don't miss out on games. You still can't play a Left 4 Dead game, Alan Wake, Mark of the Ninja or The Witcher 2 on the PS3. Also can't play Papo & Yo or Guacamelee on the Xbox 360. So while all of those games can be played on the PC, one or the other console misses out on them.

[The_Sneauxman]

"I'M GONNA GET YA!"

[aquamala]

interesting news, I have the barebones ps3 version pre-ordered but I much, much rather play on PC

[Dee_91]

WTH is wrong with nvidia and all this ego stroking since next gen was announced?
I mean this is freaking great if true but I think R* wanted to be the ones to make this announcement.
And if it doesn't come on PC ( god forbid) who's going to take the blame for this ?

@DeadlyFire
I dont hate them, and you dont have to tell lies to be hated, its just the ego stroking. I mean I can understand shutting all the people who claim PC gaming is a dying platform ( which is a small minority). But theres tons better ways than going about it like this.Because it just like they are bragging.

[Ilwrath]

Macho Madness... SKY'S THE LIMIT!

[The_KELRaTH]

Grid 2 is just about to get an official modding kit :)

Between the PC, X1 and PS4 this will likely remain the one key difference.

[mikeslemonade]

What a blatantly false statement! There theory is PC gaming is evolving and thus bring more revenue is wrong. In certain games it's true but the majority of games the consoles have time and time again proven that the games sell more on consoles. Go look up vgchartz yourself.

Skyrim is 13 million units sold on consoles while PC is under 3 million units. The PS3 alone sold almost 5 million units. So only one console already beats the PC. Also each game is $60 on the consoles so there's also more "revenue" factor coming for the consoles.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Consoles is where the big money is at. PC is where indie gaming is at. Sure.. you can sell thousands of $5 games but that's not enough revenue to beat consoles. And then you have the big games for PC that are subscription based but there's not that many that are huge. It's much more monopolistic on the PC gaming side. You have the rich making more money while the Indies are picking up the scraps.

[b163o1]

WTH is a personal computer??? O__o

[starchild]

@mikeslemonade

Oh jeez, are you seriously using vgchartz? They aren't reliable and they don't track digital PC sales, which is how most PC gamers buy their games.

Furthermore, PC game software generated 20 billion dollars in revenue last year which is far greater than any single console.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

This is an incredible figure when you consider the entire gaming industry--which covers all gaming devices (PCs, consoles, handhelds, smartphones, tablets, etc.) and includes both software and dedicated game hardware--generated $67 billion that same year (2012).

"A series of new reports from DFC Intelligence forecasts that the global market for video games is expected to grow from $67 billion in 2012 to $82 billion in 2017."
...

"The Worldwide Market Forecasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry report notes that the industry has been flat to declining mainly because of declining sales in the console segment.

“New console systems from Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are expected to help the console segment regain some momentum in the 2014 to 2015 timeframe,” said DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole. “However, the steadiest area of growth is on the PC and mobile side.”

PC game revenue continues to increase at a solid pace and is expected to pass $25 billion in 2017, up from about $20 billion forecasted for 2012."
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

So in 2012 game software sales on the PC alone generated nearly a third of the revenue of the entire games industry.

[Muffins1223]

Mods FTW

[AbortMission]

@starchild That's nice that PC has a bigger market. But it's not surprising. Most PC gamers play on pretty damn old machines or laptops, not high end Haswells, GTX 780s etc.

So, yeah. PC has a bigger market share but it's not from "PC elitists" with high end rigs. We're talking about Minecraft, WoW, and Facebook games

[ThanatosDMC]

Steam Sale!

[showtimefolks]

if its coming to PC than it has to come out on ps4/xbox one

means there vare some games i have to buy twice

[PurpHerbison]

Not true.

[showtimefolks]

Why not true porting from PC to ps4 takes less than 2 months so why won't it happen?

Also same thing for Xbox one

Whether PC gamers like it or not GTA is a console game and RS will always favor console gamers

[MestreRothN4G]

Why?

Because porting costs money and the company getting the highest amount of money from PC gaming is TPB. :)

No, R* is not interested on a platform crowded with pirates.

[NarooN]

@MestreRoth

There was a picture posted not long ago from a game store that had PC cases for GTA V. It's more than obvious that a PC version will come in time, just like how the PC port of GTA IV came well after the console version released.

PC gamers will buy the shit out of GTA V.

[clouds5]

GTA was always on pc since the first one in 1997. Just btw...

[Deceiver_Of_The_Gods]

They will release it as they always did on pc , they wont release it on ps4 or xbox one cause they are not interested , gta 6 offcourse will be released on next gen! For now you can only wait to see the ps3/360 version and later pc

[DeadlyFire]

Yeah its definitely coming to PS4/1box. Just give it a year at most before its out. :)

[starchild]

It's a current gen game. It will come out on PC simply because all the GTA games have had PC releases. Rockstar just likes to stagger the PC releases.

By your logic every current gen game like Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Bioshock Infinite, Batman Arkham Origins and so on, will all be getting next gen console releases. Which we all know won't happen. The focus for all of these games is current gen consoles and PC.

I'm not saying that it is impossible or that it definitely won't happen. I'm saying that it is illogical to assume that just because a multiplatform game is on the PC that it will also be on the PS4 and XB1.

[Corpser]

Same here, if reviews come out great (I have little doubt they will) I might have to play the console version in 720p and low frame rates.. PC/next gen versions would be so much better

[yeahokchief]

@ Battleaxe Are you retarded?

you contradicted your first sentence with your second one. logic is hard for pc gamers. all those years of justifying all the money they throw away must take a heavy toll.

[JsonHenry]

This was from an earnings call to investors, right? Not sure why so many people are acting like Nvidia is all butthurt here. PC sales typically dwarf that of consoles in sales. Especially now that NPD is FINALLY reporting on some Digital sales.

But that doesn't mean anything. The consoles still sell really well too.

[cee773]

Yeah PC may generate the most revenue as A whole but not for rockstar games gtaIv sold over 10 mill each on Xbox and ps3 I can guarantee it didn't pass 10 mill or even 5 mill on PC physically the game sold under A million on PC who knows what it did digitally. Consoles generate more revenue for Rockstar its been this way for over A decade and I don't see it changing anytime soon lol.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GTA sell like crap on PC compared to consoles

[_-EDMIX-_]

@cee773. Da hell are you talking about? You nor I don't know exactly HOW MUCH was actually spent to make GTAIV for consoles and then the PC port. If the spent like 3 million on a port, they might be making PURE profit! Mind you PC doesn't have a license fee its a open platform. Stop mistaking units sold as profit.

"revenue" doesn't = "units sold" it equals PROFIT MADE! But you must know how much was spent to make and distribute it before you make such a claim. All we really know is that A the Port is cheaper and B the port is likely making full profit cause PC is open platform.

[Seafort]

When Rockstar can be bothered to make a proper PC port it might sell well.

And retail sales for PC is a shit way to gauge how well it sold as most sales are digital now which isn't recorded.

Go ask Valve how many copies were sold on steam then you might get some proper sales figures instead of vgchartz lol

[StoutBEER]

Xbox One has mod support right? Please someone with an understanding of mod tech tell me, is there even a REMOTE chance that mods for GTA V be on Xbox One/ Trouble in Terrorist Town????!!!!!>>>!! Answers appreciated!

[_-EDMIX-_]

It clear PC will make a lot of money off of gaming just based on not having used games. Having MORE options and a lot of smaller titles. But I feel consoles now having PC style CPU's and easy indie support will start to take that away, but I do feel PC will still make the most in that regard.

and really...EVERYONE KNOWS GTAV will be on PC. This isn't news.

[Evilsnuggle]

Revenue from hardware yes software sales no the master race must accept that game console make the world go around. The biggest sales are from game console not pc. Call of duty: anyone nvidia has a major case of butt hurt. All the game console have AMD CPU and GPU. This will also give AMD GPU a huge advantage in the future games developed for consoles. They will perform better on AMD GPU's Because both games PS4 and xbone have AMD GPU. This will lead to better optimization for AMD GPU.

[doctorstrange]

That's a lot of revenue

[JonnyBigBoss]

Big world, big revenue.

[Smoovekid]

Ok Nvidia, there are already a ton GTA pre orders on both consoles.

[Murad]

Dude, people for PC, like myself want it as well. I own a console and everything, but I rather have it for PC. Why? In the long run, I'll have more mods, and in general, it's some far more convenient for me. It's the same way for you in terms of consoles.

[Hufandpuf]

I already know GTA5 is coming to PC. It has some of the most dedicated players on PC including awesome mods that I don't think Rockstar would shaft. Also I really think that ps3 gameplay they showed earlier was actually on PC. It looked too smooth with almost no screen tearing and fine tuned shadows. What game on the consoles has THAT smooth of shadows?

[HammadTheBeast]

GTA V, Last of Us, UC2/3, Killzone?

[Campy da Camper]

Gotta go with huff. When I watch the "ps3" trailer for GTA I was like there is no way that is current gen consoles. I loved the last of us and it looked great but that GTA demo was a whole other level. There was not one jaggie, and every line, on every building was crisp and clean.

[cunnilumpkin]

all those games look 10 years old on consoles

covered in jaggies

agitated shadows,

pop-in

sub-hd

have not seen a pc game that looks as bad as last of us since 2004

[Murad]

You must be blind. The Last of Us does not nearly look as good.

[Ragthorn]

Srry HammadTheBeast, Those games don't have those kind of visuals lol. Console DOES not have the power to have as smooth shadows as shown in the gameplay trailer as to what Hufandpuf said.

[NarooN]

I saw the gameplay...think you guys might be blowing it out of proportion. It's easy to smooth out jaggies and such when you apply blur filters over it all.

And GTA V looks nice, definitely better than GTA IV, but it's similar to Max Payne 3 (which looked awesome) since it's basically the same engine. If you think it's PC, look closer at the textures. They're not amazingly detailed and many are pretty low-res. This won't really matter at all for anyone who is used to GTA, especially the older PS2 titles which definitely weren't known for having the best visuals out there.

Also, disagree about Last of Us & KZ not having good shadows. I played through KZ2 & 3, Uncharted 2 & 3, and watched my friend play TLOU. All of these games have pretty decent shadows. Killzone has some of the finest visuals on the system, period.

As for GTA V, if it were PC gameplay, there would've been higher-res textures, more characters and vehicles, farther draw distance, etc.

[WeAreLegion]

God of War III. Very smooth shadows.

[DoctorJones]

Very linear game, just isn't in the same ball park at all when there's a hell of a lot more going on in GTA.

[papashango]

please don't cite one of the most linear button mashers as a source for good shadows. You can't even control the camera angles.

[WeAreLegion]

I was asked for good shadows. I told you a game that had good shadows.

Don't be complete dicks about it.

[pixelsword]

When the game comes out, we'll know; so there's no need to talk too much about it before all available information is out.

People did rightly complain about Killzone 2's trailer being fake, granted: but when the game came out, it exceeded the trailer in every way, so it's possible that GTA might have good shadows on consoles... and it's not like every game that ever came out on the PC will have perfect shadows, because each PC is different and will correspond to a game and it's settings differently.

OT:

By them commenting on everything like a rabid fanboy, Nvidia's just making it all the more obvious that they priced themselves out of the market, cheating people all the way down (saying they couldn't do something when they knew they could) and causing a rift that may never be repaired between themselves and console makers.

[Ragthorn]

But you have to know that were talking about a HUGE open-world game that has no loading screens between areas, whereas God of War 3 has very linear style of play. Simple logic really.

[extermin8or]

Woah @Murad- you need glasses if you think the last of us looks bad. It was only back in 2009 that uncharted 2 was better looking than pretty much any other game and was released on old hardware.

@cunnilumpkin some of those issues you mention are a)only noticeable if your playing with a bloody magnifying glass infront of your eye and b) are limitations there since the consoles launch. oh and c) don't detract from the game at all in anyway.

@Hufandpuf and @NiteX - if shadows are worth extra hundereds of $ on better gaming hardware with very little other improvements then you need to go re-evaluate your lives and what that money could have otherwise been spent on. Otherwise I do agree that there is no way the GTA5 footage is current gen. In the same way when Watch_Dogs was announced there's no way that was current gen and I don't believe Kojima when he says MS E3 confrence MGS5 trailer was ps3 footage.....

[Corpser]

You'll think Last of us looks bad too once you're used to next gen graphics

[Ragthorn]

@Corpser
It has already begun on PC (Nvidia GTX 700 series) lol!

[SIRHC13]

I'm hoping for a release sooner than nine months, but we all know that's not going to happen.

[JonnyBigBoss]

If you look at the timeline for previous GTA titles, we shouldn't be waiting too long. I'm going to say April 2014.

Nice avatar, by the way.

[SIRHC13]

Tread lightly.

[Gorilla_Killa_X]

I don't know about that. Almost all GTAs have released in October. Except for GTA IV, if I'm not mistaken, since they like to release a couple months before the holidays. But you never know since almost all Rockstar games have released around May this generation.

[KillrateOmega]

I'll wait until the developers say this themselves and THEN I'll start salivating at the modding possibilities :)

[Deividas]

Im excited about this :) Now i will own it on Xbox 360, PC and PS4 when it comes out for next gen, cause come on, we know it will happen.

[dbjj12088]

Definitely gonna get it on PC, but I won't be able to wait so PS3 version here I come.

[JackBNimble]

Same here, ps3 first and if and when it comes to pc then hell yah.

[dreamoner]

And that's Rockstar's business plan for GTA games.

[TheGreatGamer]

Total BS from Nvidia don't get me wrong i agree high end pc gaming is a level above the consoles but i mean with the piracy issues etc. there's no way the pc version will generate more revenue that's just the most ridiculous thing ever. GTA for 360 and ps3 is pretty much topping pre-order charts even among ps4 and xbox one so to even have the audacity to say pc version will sell more than one of the console versions is completely absurd

[sorane]

They said pc gaming makes more not just gta. They are 100% correct in that statement it makes WAY more than both 360/ps3 combined.....

[Gorilla_Killa_X]

PC game sales havent caught up to console game sales. PC game sales may be a little more than PS3/Xbox360 game sales but definately not way more.

[sorane]

^^ you should look up the numbers then if you don't think so, because I have and it is WAY more.....

[extermin8or]

Pc games sell a fair bit cheaper... more sales due to a steam discount etc does not mean that companies are making more money from it... They'd have to sell 1/4 more than the consoles just at their launch to make more money as atm usually PC games start at £30 and console games at £40.

[papashango]

Uhhh EA themselves said during their earnings report a year ago that they make more off PC than PS3.

"Xbox 360 led the pack, bringing EA $292 million in the past three months. That compared favorably to the PS3 which did $267 million for the firm. But the PC platform actually managed to outperform Sony's console with $276 million." 2012

Now here in 2013

"A posted earnings for the first quarter of its 2014 fiscal year. (The quarter ended on June 30.) EA's numbers include a breakdown of revenue per gaming platform, and they show that the company's net revenue from PC gaming actually rose by 8% compared to the same quarter last year. Not only that, but at $298 million, EA's PC revenue was higher than its Xbox 360 revenue ($256 million) or its PlayStation 3 revenue ($238 million)."

Meaning that in one year PC went from EA's #2 revenue maker to their #1.

PS3 has been last for who knows how long. Now This is EA we're talking about. The same company where most PC gamers origin accounts consist of only BF3 and that's it. Just imagine how much they'd make if they put their games back on Steam. I personally don't buy games off Origin.

Now if Rockstar can't make money off the pc crowd than that's pretty sad.

[webeblazing]

yall do realize there is a lot of games that dont even make it to consoles right or do yall still believe consoles have more exclusives. when companies say this most people say this people think only of big budget games which is dumb

[TheGreatGamer]

Don't get me wrong i have bought a fair share of pc games but what i'm saying is with all the piracy issues etc. Rockstar will make more money with the console versions

[aliengmr]

Nothing to do with piracy at all.

[AzureskyZ]

Hate to say it but its obvious nvidia is bitter-- the margin on pc is definitely better but in no way the pc's volume of sales is even remotely close to those of the console's. If last games is any indication consoles alone will probably clear 17-20 million copies, pc will probably clear anywhere from 1-3 and thats high balling it. PC will be the superior version no doubt and with the mod implement it would definitely be the version to watch out for, but coming from nvidia it seems they are just bitter and alittle bit juvenile-- total revenue and gross goes to consoles in sheer volume-- margin per game goes to pc.

[AznGaara]

That's not fair. Most site that "track sales" like NPD or VZCharts don't include digital sales which are almost all the purchases on PC. Also, Nvidia bitter? Get real. He never said "GTAV is coming to PCs with only Nvidia cards" no he said PCs in general meaning AMD too.

[AzureskyZ]

Nvidia lost contracts to both MS after xbox 1 and sony ps3-- they have been talking trash about consoles non stop since then-- ever since feb annoucement of ps4-- look it up-- naturally they would promote pc even if it entails amd cause its there only source of business besides tegra and grid, which is more tailored to handhelds and clouding. Even accounting Digital sells how many do you think it really sells? Piracy on pc will be available in couple of weeks-- steams sells may shine for awhile but it will never come close to the volume of console sells-- both consoles offer digital day one release btw. I think you are misunderstanding here-- im not saying that pc arent profitable cause the margin is much better on pc-- but revenue is by volume of sales-- and pc dont win in this regard because the sales will be lower than the consoles-- only a handful of games does PC actually exceeds its console counter part--- let me put it this way if pc sells was as high as nvidia is saying, pc version would be the version they not only promote the most, it might be the only version that comes out because of its profitability-- and the cost to bring it out on ps3 or xbox wouldnt be justifiable based on royalties etc they have to pay to console makers. Personally i prefer nvidia graphics card over amd because of driver support-- but i still think they are immature as a company.

[extermin8or]

Most of the digital sales are bought at discount prices... so they don't make them as much money... I'd bet my right hand on it.

[DoctorJones]

@extermin8or

They may be sold at discount prices but they sell higher volumes when they are discounted. It's a long game in many respects with pc gaming, they may sell for cheaper, such as in the Steam sales, but they can earn money on a game over a much longer period of time.

With console games, after a few months a lot more people buy second hand which gives them no money at all. They sell digitally on consoles as well, but a publisher earns mostly on retail with console games.

With pc it's mostly digital and they can rely on a more constant source of revenue.

[TrollCraftTales]

I think it will come out on both PC and Next Gen, Rockstar would be making a huge mistake if they don't... Also there is a bit of evidence for Next Gen/PC versions, and if it comes out on PC, it will on Next Gen, and visa versa, consoles have x86 now so it would be a no brainer to port it over..

[claud3]

GTA V for the P.C and GTA online for P.C will be out around FEB or April 2014 and then the modders can have a field day with this game

[AznGaara]

"With how much time and money has been invested into GTA 5's development, it would make no sense to not cash in on the large group of PC gamers"

This applies to all next gen games really. Look at FF15, MGSV and Kingdom Hearts 3. Heck even SNK just announced a "KoF13 Steam Edition" it's just ludicrous to ignore the PC space.

[extermin8or]

MGS5 and KH3 aren't Pc confirmed-I don't know about FF15...

[AznGaara]

Kojima "Of course we are developing on a PC so we look forward to releasing something on the PC some time" from shacknews

Nomura "Yes, Correct, but again DirectX 11 is the tool that we’re using and whichever hardware which has a compatibility with that tool, we can keep it consideration." from dualshockers

Yes they're not fully confirmed but its pretty evident that they're eventually going to make their way to PC. The whole selling point of a the next-gen consoles is that they're using PC parts so porting throughout the 3 platforms would be easier. Sorry I tried to provide links but according to N4G my "Comment looks like spam" -_-

[jbwoolley]

This is one of the most awaited games, and a lot of those excited gamers is me. If the release is by next year, well...that would be long wait. Want the PC version.

[WheatBread]

Next gen is going to kick ass.

[GraveLord]

If you count MMOs and stuff, yeah, not surprising.

[JohnS1313]

More crap from the big mouths at Nvidia. What a bunch of idiots.

[i8urCAKE]

"PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined" for GTAV ? i don't think so. Most people play GTA on consoles. AND if it was released on PC, 99% of pc gamers will just torrent it like they do with most games. Bitch please

[sorane]

You should learn to read better.

[mediate-this]

you should read the article and not just go off the title

[i8urCAKE]

I'm just talking about the revenue for GTAV

[Are_The_MaDNess]

hmmmm how do you know that 99% of PC games torrent their games?
havent Torrented a game in years, and when i did i always brought it on steam again.
most of the people i know buy their games on steam and such. games are cheaper nowadays on pc so i really see no reason not to buy games anymore. atleast on PC.
pre-order a game for 40-50 euros and get bonus games and in game items witch you can sell again for even more games if you want. steam is a good system.
i cant see myself ever torrenting a game ever again, unless i cant buy it at all or is not in my country.
steamcommunity.com/id/AreTheM aDNess/

(link broken, just remove the space beween the M and a. N4G think its spam......sigh)

[i8urCAKE]

Well that's just you but alot of people just torrent. I know someone who bought a 1200$ gaming PC and he torrents ALL his games.

[maniac76]

He ment pc games are more cheaper and pirated easier more so than ps4 and xbox one lmao

[skywarpgreer]

def excited for pc release. seems to be the one game u wont wanna leave the house for.

[claud3]

This and modders on the P.C, will make this game insane and add so much new content

R* we love you

[SonyPS4]

Lots of jealous console-only gamers in here.

[JackBNimble]

I don't understand... jealous of what?

Console gamers are getting GTA V in a month, maybe it's pc gamers who are jealous.
I will be more then happy to buy it for ps3, I just can't wait for the pc release, but I will buy it for pc when it comes out.

[ZBlacktt]

No, not even once.... like anyone cares. There are SO many great games coming out. Even this one to the consoles. But everyone will have moved on to the next Gen consoles already anyway. That is why the sells on console will be more down then anything. They goofed and only supported last gen. Sorry, but no..... I'll be over here on next Gen playing AC4, Watch Dogs, Killzone, Infamous SS, etc, etc.... BF4, etc.

[webeblazing]

and you know you know who else will be playin most of those games without buying a new system or upgrading.

[ZBlacktt]

You know I have PC's also. Not a big deal at all. next. I was PC gaming on the Apple II, IIe and IIc in 1982. That's before 97% of this whole site. So I never get wrapped up in this PC/Console crap. That's all you guys. Just saying the next Gen consoles are coming and this game is not on them. So many gamers are going to be on the new/better consoles already.

[fsfsxii]

And probably the piracy is double the consoles combined.

[cunnilumpkin]

yet still makes way more money than ps3 and xbox360 combined

and next, ps4 and xbox1 will NEVER sell close to what ps3/xbox360 did

EVER

[stuna1]

Hey we have a guy with a crystal ball here!!!

They stand to sell even more! Sure some might take the economy into consideration, but the PS4 is also $200 cheaper than it was last generation. And both have much more to offer than their predecessors. The facts are plain, not everyone games on PC's! And because of that there's no love lost.

[fsfsxii]

Hey, could you lend me your secret black magic powaz??! I really wanna see the future and my future wife. I'm being srs

[Underworld]

And how much of that is generated from crap like FarmVille and MMOs? A lot.

[papashango]

d

[Xristo]

I love how N4G users here justify their ignorance by making comments such as, "No way GTA sells more on PC than consoles combined!" Learn to read! If you READ the article; that means actually click the link. He NEVER said that. I won't quote him because you have already proven to me that you do NOT know how to read. Why should I think you can now?

On topic: Hopefully this is true signs that GTAV is on its way to the PC. I'm sure that will be some time early-mid next year but that will be just in time for either a new 880 or an equivalent AMD GPU. My upgrade is due. :)

[claud3]

Remember i told you so guys... This is a fiscal year coming and Take-two have their talk over how to make more money

And the easy answer P.C and Next gen versions Next year

So keep that in mind, while i smile and enjoy the thank you from everyone

[DVAcme]

"PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined"

Pffft, no.

[GraveLord]

They're including PC Gaming a whole. That incluces MMOs like World of Warcraft and even free to play games like League of Legends.

So yeah, it is possible PC revenue is more than Xbox and Playstation combined, but then again Nvidia doesn't have access to PSN and XBL sales which shouldn't be ignored. They're probably only counting retail...

Nvidia needs to get off hits high-horse console bashing attitude.

[DVAcme]

I can see that, yes, PC revenue as a whole generates more profit, but that profit is split between so many entities that the individual profit is IMPOSSIBLE to be higher for each company than what they make on console, unless that company has PC gaming as its only revenue(like, surprise surprise, NVidia). As for individual games, the cost-prohibitive and work-intensive nature on the consumer side of PC gaming for optimum performance makes console gaming a very attractive option these days, and the rampant piracy on the PC side means that companies have a safer earnings margin by going the console route over PC. The reason GTA5 is coming exclusively to console at launch is that piracy would wreck its launch on PC. Rockstar wants to ensure maximum profit for their investment, and console's the way to go there.

As for NVidia talking all that crap, it's green grapes over AMD scoring making the hardware for BOTH next gen consoles. They have to trumpet PC gaming cause that's all they've got. If NVidia REALLY were willing to put their money where their mouth is, they'd throw their own console into the mix.

[TronEOL]

If this game only comes out on PC, PS3 and Xbox360, I'll be buying it on PC. I'm done with this generation once the PS4 comes out, and I won't be buying GTAV as long as it only exists on the PS3/X360.

[evilhasitsway]

all true

[sarcastoid]

If cliffy b manifested himself into a company, it would be called nvidia. bash whatever it is that you're not currently involved with, praise what you are involved with.

[cunnilumpkin]

they are not bashing anything

people keep asking them questions about next gen consoels because they think NVidia care

NVidia makes a far better product than amd, has higher stock prices, sells WAY more chips and makes FAR more money than amd ever will

same with intel

NVidia just answers honestly, saying the "next gen" consoles are not even on par with a high end gpu from 3 years ago

its just the truth

they have cheap cpu's that max out at 1.6 ghz like a TABLET and crappy amd laptop gpus

they are NOT powerful at all, they are a big step up from the 8 year old relics that are ps3/360 sure, but they will not even manage a game like bf3 in 1920x1080 native at very high settings at 30 frames, let alone ultra

NVidia stock is worth almost $15 a share
AMD is $3

Nvidia are not upset at all, they were asked FIRST to be in the ps4, they gave a price, sony said no and counter offered, NVidia told them to eat a di@k

end of story

[sarcastoid]

if PC was in such great shape... where are the exclusives aside from indie games? Why aren't they selling more than a fraction of what console versions sell? Seems to me like Nvidia's full of themselves, had to big of an ego to accept sony's offer and now are trying to shit all over consoles as if PC gaming's graphics are ALL that matter. We'll see where those stocks are in a couple years.

[sorane]

^^^

Civ 5, the warcraft series, the starcraft series etc etc etc are all indie games now you're saying. I guess you have to be a generic shooter and/or generic tomb raider clone to be considered aaa now....

[starchild]

@misterzadir

Such ignorance. There are many big budget exclusives on the PC. And they generally sell quite well. Diablo 3 sold something over 12 million copies. And lots of other PC games sell in the multiple millions range.

Overall there are many more exclusives on the PC than any console. And this is an amazing fact because the main reason the consoles get exclusives is because Sony and Microsoft pay huge amounts of money to buy up studios or to pay studios to make games exclusively for their platform.

The PC doesn't have a platform holder spending money to make games exclusive to the platform and yet it still has more developers making games for the platform than for any console.

http://blogs.nvidia.com/wp-...

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

[webeblazing]

posting pc exclusive will take forever that y no one does it. your tell me to post all past and future exclusives. future excluses alone it too much work.

idiot

[Deltaguy]

LOL these dudes are talking out of their ass...rockstar never announced gta5 on pc..will it happen probably, secondly i severely doubt pc games sale more then their console counterparts..if thats the case why are there way less people playing these games online on pc then on console

[annus]

Where are you getting your information from? 10 year old games still have thousands playing on PC. I could agree with you that PC probably doesn't sell the combined amount, but it sure as shit has more people playing online. The one thing that pisses me off about consoles is that if you buy a game that is like a year old it is dead unless it was a super popular game like CoD which still doesn't have nearly the amount of players as the PC version, unless it's been out for a month.

I just looked at steam players count. Today there was a peak of 33,000 playing Counter Strike. That's a 13 year old game, and I'm pretty sure you don't even need steam to play that game so the numbers are probably much higher.

[Reefskye]

Most of these numbers are grabbed from steam thinking every PC user uses Steam they fail to realise 1000's of people don't buy steam versions on PC either so using steam numbers for what people play on PC is stupid.

[thisismyaccount]

It will be released for the PC like the prev. installments few months after the console version launches.

I´m getting the PC version, because of the snb or nbs mob community, can´t wait to see how GTA5 will look once they apply this mod (GTA4 looks like a NGEN already with that modification).

Let´s hope they are not including another Queen Latifah Cameo character into the game....

GTA5 + mod = is prolly the only reason to play the PC version

[FlyingFoxy]

Not really, a bigger reason would be if R* actually make a good multiplayer this time with tons of players, IV's multiplayer is boring compared to SA-MP.

[ZBlacktt]

This game in only on last gen consoles..... Everyone and their mother is waiting for next Gen consoles and the games that come with it. So I'm sure many will wait on this and get it at some point. Maybe even used... But looking at the next Gen games coming out.... come on. You know this is a huge factor.

[Plagasx]

YES! Please god be true. GTA IV is still thriving on PC! Imagine GTA V!

[Hueynewton2012]

Let me ask all of you thieving, entitled and whiny, pimple faced PC nerds in this comment section something. Did you even read this short article? Its pure speculation regarding revenue by 2015. Potential PC revenue gains by 2015 and where it may come from. Nvidia's current business model includes, android based tablet games moving to PC along with indies and more android based games. Nvidia' own hand held garbage they are pushing is android based....

Also why hasn't R* announced or even teased a PC release? why are they waiting when its nearly a month before release? 80% of you PC enthusiasts look into you hard drives among your non steam released games then you will have the answer.

[cunnilumpkin]

"Let me ask all of you thieving, entitled and whiny, pimple faced PC nerds in this comment section something. Did you even read this short article? Its pure speculation regarding revenue by 2015"

ohhhh, hueynewton2012 is so cool, let me try to be like him~

let me ask you poor, inbred, trailer park dwelling peasants who game on 9 year old relics, what does 720p or less with zero anti aliasing look like?

because I have not seen such disgusting putrescence since 2003

yet that is ALL ps3 and xbox360 are capable of, and next gen consoles will be more of the same

jaggies, slowdowns, pop-in, screen tearing, small player counts, awful shadows

do you know why rockstar is waiting to announce the pc version, because anyone with half a brain would say F buying the ugly looking, horribly performing, jaggie covered console version, I'll wait and get the pixel perfect pc version

and then they might lose 25% of their console sheep, you know, the ones that don't buy every piece of day one dlc and can read above a 5th grade level

[stuna1]

So by your comment they'd rather lose 25% of the PC's master race!?

There has been no mention of a PC's version, not saying there won't be, but from the look of things, PC gamers are in the same boat as the next gen console gamers! Up to this point everything is pure speculation and conjecture! As much as I would love for this to be true upon the release of next gen, this means nothing unless otherwise stated by ROCK*.

[LKHGFDSA]

the trolling is strong with this one.

[Corpser]

Because they want to sell as much of the current gen barebones versions first before they announce pc/next gen versions that people are waiting for

[kingduqc]

I don't think nvidia refusing the gpu deal on next gen is relevant to the topic at hand, anyone saying otherwise is a ragy fanboy.

[AznGaara]

All this Nvidia bashing... bet people don't realize that both the Ps4 and xBone supports PhysX. Oh well. So when they see games with amazing particle effects, cloth physics and water physics... they know who to thank. lol

Imagine a Naughty Dog game with PhysX... mind = blown.

[Kayant]

Lmao at people will upgrade their set up to play Ghost.... Call of duty has never been a demanding game and I don't expect that to change with Ghost.

"Yet sales of specialty PCs like gaming systems and work stations continue to grow"

Hmm I was under the expression the OEM market has a whole was shrinking while the hardware market booms as more people build their own pc.

[SpecialK]

I hope it does come out on PC. If not I will get it for consoles. But this late in a gen the gap between consoles and pcs gets pretty large.

I'm no elitist I'm only rocking an AMD7770 but even that is happy to play games at 1080p on nice settings. Tho I'm sure I'll be turning some bits down for this =p

Can't wait for next gen though. I'll be getting a ps4 and it'd be nice to see this game there. We've all been waiting for 1080p gaming for around a decade now after bullshit claims that this gen would handle it and all we got were some indies.

I mean all the other stuff new consoles can do will be ace, but it really just needs a bump in resolution.

[listenkids]

Claiming PC is fine because of PC only franchises that are massively established anyway ( Diablo/Warcraft/Simulators ) is ignorant, there are thousands of games that don't even warrant a PC release due to poor sales, PC is at an all time low and you'll continue to ignore it believing bullshit because it suits you.

[aquamala]

you're wrong, PC is more alive now than ever. EA makes more money on PC than other platforms last quarter. PC was 10% of Take-Two's revenue 5 years ago, now it's 20%. And look at all these games on kickstarter and Steam, 5 out of 10 of the top selling games on Steam right now are PC-only games. and 400,000+ people are playing DOTA 2 right now

[listenkids]

Last quarter means PC is fine, of course PC only games are selling well on PC, it's PC only. As for Dota, same bag as my Diablo.

If it's not a MMO or Moba, it's bound to fail. The high sellers from Diablo and Minecraft don't come often enough to claim PC dominates Consoles in sales, its retarded and ignorant, like every blind dimwit on this website.

[wannabe gamer]

sales of common household and office PC are way down....sales of custom built PC and gaming PC are WAY WAY WAY up as well as hardware sales for all the DIY gamers

[GamePeace]

Pokemon X/Y on my 3DS will beat the shit out of GTA and nVidia... gnahahaha

[FlyingFoxy]

Yeah in sales maybe, what's so special about the game? you don't even control fights.. just pick an attack style, how exciting..

Custom Robo Arena was good though, way way way better than any Pokemon game since you actually control the fights.

[GamePeace]

Now I ask you, what's Special about GTA? Don`t make me laugh, the core gameplay of Pokemon is unique in the industry, GTA's gameplay is a joke compared to the tactical Pokemon. Rockstar made some good games, but the pokemon Franchise is legendary. You can put games like God of War, Halo, Uncharted, Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Monster Hunter, Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, Super Mario, Zelda ecc. in the same league, then Comes pokemon (a league of it's own), no one has ever reached the playstyle of pokemon, no comparison here. Witcher, Elder Scrolls are similar games for example, Phantasy Star Online, God Eater 2 and Monster Hunter = almost the same gameplay, GTA and other sandbox games like Farcry ecc = almost same gameplay. And where's a second Pokemon? It's a Thing of it's own, that's what makes pokemon unique compared to other games...

[Surt]

Because console to PC ports always come out great! Give me a fucking break. I use my rig for FPS and Horror games (cause consoles have been too SCARED to really grab that genre) But anything else, I play on my PS3, and next ps4.

PC sells more? LOL! It's 2013! Who still buys games on PC?!

[aliengmr]

"I use my rig for FPS and Horror games"

Apparently you do.

[sorane]

PC gaming makes more than the 360/ps3 COMBINED.

[thisismyaccount]

Aww poor Chenug Gui Fang Fo - CEO of (e)Nvidia, poor thing...

GTA 4 reached about 21 Mio. Copies worldwide... 10 on each Console and <<<1>>> or close to <<<1>>> on the Pirate Club Machine aka PC.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

[aquamala]

lol I knew someone would use vgchartz numbers, they only track retail sales. Look at how it says Diablo 3 sold 3 million when Blizzard already said it sold more than 12 million.

[leahcim]

You know in spanish Nvidia pronounces like the word "envidia" that means "envy".

Before the Ps4 choosing AMD we never heard neither read news about Nvidia saying this or doing that, they are pure jealousy.

[GodGinrai]

cunnylingus.

[SnakeCQC]

as much as i love pc gaming i have to call bs

[Orionsangel]

I hope it does and hope by some miracle. Rockstar announces RDR for PC. If it did, I bet it would have some extra content and a special name, like, The Gunslinger Edition, or something. Hey, a guy can dream :P

[DevilishSix]

A good friend asked me a couple weeks ago if I was getting GTA5 on 360 or PS3 and I told him no and that I was waiting, because if it gets announced for PC that I figured it had a good chance of going to next gen consoles, because their set ups were PC oriented and it would be an easy port. Now with the PC version being outed, I am calling it...GTA5 will be announced for X1 and PS4 at E3 2014 for a Fall or holiday release....so I am waiting.

[KontryBoy706]

Most of us PC gamers already knew GTA V was coming to the PC the real question was when.

[evilhasitsway]

i know it will come to pc but the revenue thing more than xbox and ps4 i doubt cause i have a pc gaming rig and i could have bought like for xbox1's or 5 ps4 instead the point is the gaming pc rigs are really really hurtful to the wallet so people will buy systems before pcs.

[ame22]

Nvidia is still butthurt ha? Is that why we have to see a PC port for RDR. Please stop talking out of your ass, 90% of PC gamers have pirated the game.

[iistuii]

That means I can sell my 360. The only game I was gonna get was GTA5 on Xbox & after finishing TLOU my PS3 is only used as a blu ray player. All multi's I play on the PC for obvious reasons, & if GTA5 is coming to PC I don't want to ruin the experience with a jaggie blurry sub hd version.

[Godlovesgamers]

After Nvidia's school yard mentality as of late, I've really gotta take everything they say with a salt shaker.

[aliengmr]

Reading comprehension is a useful skill. I recommend it.

So its okay for Sony and MS (well, just Sony on N4G:P) to talk up their platforms and how cool they are, but if Nvidia does it they are just grumpy.

[Godlovesgamers]

Shut your mouth your wretched little twerp, what do you work for Nvidia? I'll smack you in the mouth, I'm Neil Diamond!

[CuddlyREDRUM]

It will also be on next gen consoles, this is Rockstar doing their George Lucas impression.

[EXVirtual]

PC is gonna get a lot of multiplats next gen. I'm a console guy, but it's kl that PC gamers are getting more games. Not all if em but still. I wonder how the gen will play out in 2-3 years. I know NVidia means PC gaming as a whole but they should try to stop bashing consoles. As far as I know, PC only games and EA games sell best on PC.

[Einhert]

So many insecure console fanboys feeling threatened and insecure about their platforms feeling the need to say PC doesnt have select few games like RDR.

What I have always laughed about console only owners is they have to sit around and wait for that one good game to come out because none of their games have any longevity.

Oh sorry il be busy playing some PC exclusives like Rome II for months on end while these games that come out once in a blue moon die off like a fart in the breeze.

What is even better is they worry about the opinion of idiots like Nividia who just talk utter crap 24/7.

Sorry but if you are not on PC, you are missing out BIG time.

[Ragthorn]

I love it when PC articles show up, and all the PC gamers on N4G group up on the comments and talk about PC, and almost no PC haters. That's the way it should be lol. Some console gamers trying to fight but we overpower them!
On Topic: Who didn't know it was coming to PC? They would never leave the PC out because of its fanbase and glorious mods, that you will never get on console.

[arronax-1]

oh great, you twats again?

[aLiEnViSiToR]

No surprise lol :D

[arronax-1]

Oh great, here come the PC twats again...

[dark_101]

PC for me

[wannabe gamer]

so many ignorant people here.....NVIDIA MAKES MORE THAN GRAPHICS CARDS YOU IDIOTS!!!! they have chips in luxury cars and tons of devices other than consoles and PCs. WHY CANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. people claiming nvidia is butthurt cause they arent in consoles are just tallking out their butts with lack of knowledge. consoles ARE NOT THE BIGGEST THING IN ELECTRONICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wannabe gamer]

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[TABSF]

I'm going to be getting it on PS3, but instantly getting PC version because it going to be superior in every way.

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Why would Nvidia be butt hurt, they make lots of money releasing the latest and greatest technology, AMD themselves have said the console deals will only bring in about 1/5 of their annual profits.

AMD needed the deal more then Nvidia and was probably prepared to go as low as possible.

GTX Titan and GTX 780, GTX 770 are far and beyond AMDs single chip flagship GPU. Rumors actually show AMDs refresh isn't looking to great compared with GTX 780, however we'll have to wait and see.

Snapdragon S4 is a great chip it really is, I have one in my LG Google Nexus 4, that being said if Nvidia wasn't late to the market, Tegra 4 would be beating the competition.

AMD and Nvidia make more money in the PC space, this is just fact. They sell their cards to Vendors and get very high returns per card much higher than they would get per console sale.

Nvidia has got their hands on the 2 most profitable markets for them PC and Android why would they want to go elsewhere?

Nvidia Shield isn't DOA, where do you get that from? I know a lot of PC gamers getting excited over this, I'm going to be getting one myself once they become available in the UK.

Like Intel in the CPU market Nvidia dominate the GPU market with at least 65% market share over AMD, that's even with Nvidia cards priced higher against cheaper AMD cards with similar performance levels.

Considering most games coming to the next generation consoles being PC ports it would be highly unlikely for people with Nvidia cards to have a disadvantage. At current performances Nvidia solutions have an advantage.

To be honest I can't see Nvidia entertaining consoles any more, also don't forget Gaikai Sony's game streaming service uses Intel / Nvidia hardware not AMD.

Tegra 5 will bring desktop Kepler cores to ARM processors, most likely surpassing PS3 / 360 visuals.
Nvidia GeForce 800 series will bring about a new architecture, Maxwell is said to have about 2.5 times the compute of Kepler per Watt.

Personally I think Nvidia is fine.

[wannabe gamer]

another thing is that nVidia also makes chips for luxury and exotic cars. Which is BIG MONEY, also look at all the super computers all over the world that run on nothing but GPU power as their main processors. The one in oakridge has 18,000+ nvidia processors in it.....that alone made them a HUGE chunk of money as well as im sure some nice support contracts and such.

console gamers just dont understand that there is more to the world than consoles and games in general. nVidia makes these choices cause they know what they are doing. they got into bigger and better markets and just wont miss the console space when talking about GPUs. they make more than just GPU tho and people dont get that

[FlyingFoxy]

PC ver hopefully will run at least as good as GTA IV and not worse.

64+ player online, steam game and not gfwl and allow us to make our own game modes with dedicated servers.. that will be way better than the console versions.

Don't restrict it like GTA IV, was so boring online compared to SA-MP.

[grimmweisse]

Couldn't care what nvidia had to say recently. PC gaming is great, but there will always be a large audience that wants console gaming for gaming with ease. Many people don't want to bother with drivers or upgrading and changing components. Also console gaming is cost effective gaming due to cheaper hardware and no need to upgrade.

Console gaming is going nowhere regardless how powerful PCs get. 3rd party developers have multiple revenue streams thanks to different platforms, so more money can be made.

And credit to some console developers for actually pushing console hardware and software as far as they can over it's lifespan, rather than the Jeremy Clarkson more power" argument.

Both will exist regardless of what PC elitists and console fanboys will argue.

[doctorstrange]

PC is bigger than most people think