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Can the Xbox One Match the PS4 Before November?

Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) may be closing that gap that was established immediately after it and Sony (NYSE:SNE) announced the technical specifications of their upcoming gaming consoles. Sony took the lead right away with a number of higher-performance elements, but that may not stay true until November.

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Xwow20083914d ago

"Though Microsoft’s marginal increase of the Xbox One’s graphic processing performance may not be enough to catch up to the specs on the PS4, it sends a different message: the current specs of the Xbox One might not be the final ones. Microsoft could potentially continue making changes to the system to make it more powerful in the months before the November launch of both consoles."

ROFL..some ppl living in dream land.

LostDjinn3914d ago

Really drives home how little most "journalists" understand about the field they find themselves in.

NewMonday3914d ago

they could have delayed it to change the GPU after the PS4 February 20 reveal, but it is too late for that now. XB1 will start next gen vastly underpowered.

Ilovetheps53914d ago

newmonday,

I do agree that it's too late to change the specs of the system too much. But I don't think it's THAT underpowered. I think the X1's specs will be much closer to PS4 than people are thinking.

The multiplatform games should look almost identical in my opinion, but the exclusives on PS4 will show off the hardware. But I still the the X1 exclusives will be comparable.

TheGamingArt3914d ago

Really shows how much research amateurs do before writing an internet article...... and how they can know nothing about a topic and just put it out there like a discussion.

mcstorm3914d ago

What I find funny about gamers on here is all they ever talk about now is power when it comes to Sonys consoles. Gamers on here have very short memory's about the Playstation as last gen was the 1st gen where there console had more power than the other consoles on the market.
Power really is not as big as an issue as is made out on here in fact remember the PS one logo (Don't underestimate the power of Playstation)

Yes its nice having good looking games but it is not looks that make games. Game play is what makes the games and the reason why games sell well. Look at the best selling games from last gen and how many of them were the best looking games of this generation?

Even go back to the gen before and you will see the same with sales.

Power is not the reason why one console will out sell another it is the games and it will be the console that has the right games that appeals to the masses that will sell the most consoles come the end of the next gen.

That said people should buy the console they want to buy not what people on here say and if your a core gamer then you will own all 3 any way so it really dose not matter to you if you do.

nukeitall3914d ago

@mcstorm:

spot on!

Specs matter little when they are so close. If it was about power, PC would have killed console market a long time ago.

Ultimately, consoles are about content, ease of use and access, and features. Just look at past history!

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redwin3914d ago

Xbox will never catch up to the ps4 in specs without having to worry about a loud and overheating machine. The Xbox was design to use the power if the cloud not the machine.

AngryTypingGuy3913d ago

Xbox One might not be as powerful as PS4, but to say that it will start the generation vastly underpowered might be a bit of a reach. Most games will probably look roughly the same. I'll be getting a PS4 first so I hope that most games perform better on it of course, but I'm guessing that most noticeable differences will be with the exclusives.

BitbyDeath3913d ago

The power difference is obviously greater than 360 vs PS3 but I don't think it is on the same level as PS2 vs xbox. Really we should all just let the games do the talking.

fr0sty3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

Without a delay, there simply is not enough time to make a drastic upgrade to the hardware (which means redesigning the architecture, creating new devkits and drivers to take advantage of it, and getting those tools in the hands of developers who then have to take the time to upgrade their games as much as possible before launch, if it is possible at all). Not only do they have to get the hardware built and delivered, but it must also go through rigorous testing to ensure it can hold up to the heat and that it functions properly. The drivers must be tested for bugs. Just to name a few of the steps needed.

These are not things you do when you are supposed to be giving your manufacturing plants enough time to churn out millions of consoles for a semi-worldwide launch.

If you expect MS to upgrade Xbox One any more than a simple overclock of a few mhz, you should also expect many launch game delays, extreme launch system shortages, and a high console failure rate in addition to games riddled with bugs.

We're already in the final stretch. Whatever they've built at this point is what they're committed to. The factories should already be pumping out final hardware if they plan on meeting launch targets.

As for the power difference between the two... Expect higher resolutions and framerates in some cases for multiplats. It's quite likely that the majority of early multiplats will be made to be about the same for both systems. However, judging by what I've seen, I think towards the end of the generation XB1's hardware will show it's age first, both on multiplats and exclusives.

Time will tell though. The difference is definitely more than with PS3 and 360. With 360, it had a stronger GPU, but weaker CPU (that was easier to program for). PS3 was the opposite. With PS4 and Xb1, they have essentially the same CPU, but the GPU in PS4 is a good bit stronger. Then you factor in the additional RAM and it's higher bandwidth... There will be a larger difference, but it isn't going to be anything most gamers will care about. They didn't care about Xbox's advantages over PS2. PS2 still went on to sell hundreds of millions more consoles.

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iamnsuperman3914d ago (Edited 3914d ago )

O dear. He should stop dreaming. Microsoft couldn't make it more powerful. Launch is too soon. However, they can add extra functionality via software updates

OlgerO3914d ago

I will go with the PS4, but im sure that the games on xbox one will look about the same in the beginning. I think that the differences will become more profound as the years go by

HugoDrax3914d ago

@mcstorm

I'm a core gamer, and you're exactly right sir. I own every console and handheld besides the VITA. That will all change eventually as I do have my launch day PS4 & XB1 pre ordered.

Happy gaming people

slampunk3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

A sensible reply to a sensible comment..... something you don't see very often in the N4G comments section.... :)

and you got 4 disagrees!!!! LMAO

n4rc3914d ago

I'm not going to get into this again with people.. But the specs are only part of the story..

Just like a car.. HP is important.. But weight, drive line etc all make huge differences..

For sake of argument.. Ps4 has more HP but what if its less efficient?

Having more power on paper is all it is right now.. Maybe it will still be the case come launch.. But.nobody knows for sure

NewsForge3913d ago

1.84 Gigaflops is considered mild range. 1.3 Gigaflop is considered entry level (Low end garbage). The Xbox One is severely underpowered. They wanted more TV features so they invested in that instead of a proper GPU. Have fun with your new cable box this holiday while I game on a PS4.

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NeoTribe3914d ago

They cant go changing hardware a couple months before release. Unless ofcourse they feel like having the rrod all over again. It did help them sell more consoles -_-

hellvaguy3914d ago

How exactly did they "sell" free replacements for 3 years after rrod was discovered? Thats not exactly selling consoles when you have to repair or replace free of charge.

stuna13914d ago

Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles. That has played a bigger role on why you have so many gamers saying that they have 2 and 3 Xbox 360's in their homes.

creatchee3914d ago

@stuna1

"Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles."

I have heard people spouting this off for years and its ridiculous. First of all, there is absolutely no documentation to support this claim - only anecdotal "evidence" that comes mostly from the pro-Sony people. If anybody has any published proof of this "buying because I can't wait for a replacement" phenomenon, I'd love to see it.

Secondly, if people are so desperate to play a video game that they can't wait 1-2 weeks for the replacement program to do its thing, then we live in very sad times indeed. There are books to read and flowers to smell and women to kiss. And, if you are that hardcore of a gamer, you probably already have another console to play. I know because I played my PS3 during my second RROD.

ShwankyShpanky3914d ago

Go on over to the official Xbox forums and read about the "pro-Sony" people buying RRoD replacements.

creatchee3914d ago

@ShwankyShpanky

Anybody can create an Xbox forums account.

Also I didn't say that it didn't happen - I said that it was a rumor propagated MOSTLY by the pro-Sony crowd. I've seen numerous posts of people trying to add 10 million or more sales to the 360 total because of these impatient rebuyers. It's bull, plain and simple.

TheRealHeisenberg3913d ago

@ stuna1

I have three PS3s in my house. Does your "logic" apply there as well?

stuna13913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

Just because you! The ones who replied to my comment didn't take that route, doesn't mean no one took that route! Was there concrete documentation of RROD for the Xbox 360.in the beginning? No! It actually took the government to step in before Microsoft owned up to the issues! And yes theres documentation to the facts! If people want to walk through life with blindfolds on, fingers in their ears, singing the smurf song, it still doesn't change cold hard facts.

EDIT: It's also a known fact that those cncerned about their K/D ratios would have no problem investing in another Xbox 360. Especially if squad members could pass them up! What cracks me up is the fact that Microsoft incompetence can be blaim on Sony supporters, did they somehow create the RROD? Talk about Jedi mind tricks.

Ninjews3913d ago

@creatchee there is no hard evidence to dispel the claim either. I don't really know what kind of "hard" evidence Someone will be able to provide this they bought another 360, because theirs rrod and they couldn't wait for their replacement. Remember common sense does not apply to gamers. In my experience gamers well do anything to get their fix, especially for one specific game they have been looking forward to.

Hicken3913d ago

RROD wasn't "discovered." It was known. The damn consoles were dying days after release.

Does it have to be said AGAIN that it took a year and a half before MS started covering the RROD? From November 2005 to July 2007, any system that died was replaced at the consumer's expense, NOT Microsoft's. July 5th was when MS acknowledge the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years. And it was during this time that the failure rate of ~54% was recorded.

And yes, even then, quite a few people bought backups, so they could play while their main system was being repaired.

Chevalier3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

I sold plenty of replacement 360's in my store so yeah it happened a lot. Peoples systems did die after getting replaced as well it's not infinite for the coverage. But what do I know I only work at the busiest EB in my city for over 6 years.

As for xbox one equaling ps4 by November, while it isn't impossible I would say based on such low xbox one allocations I would say it is extremely unlikely. Currently my ps4 preorders are about 241 units and Sony just opened up day one to us again whereas our xbox one preorders are at 39 units and I haven't had a new preorder in a week, in that time we sold a dozen ps4. Our smallest store has well over 100 ps4 preorders and there are 9 stores here. It will take 3 weeks to sellout of our remaining xbox one units remaining and you'd be surprised how little units I am talking about for our district as a whole, that is how slow it has been on preorders. So if there's another article about Microsoft blowing preorder numbers at Gamestop I will laugh.

Although our MS rep did say that they had to change design last minute since the design for DRM was literally built to the hardware. That to me is not a good thing.

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Gazondaily3914d ago

It's not going to happen.

Does the X1 have to match the PS4 though? The difference in specs doesn't appear to be that startling (at this stage anyway. The console is fine as it is.

Thehyph3914d ago

They are both fine consoles. They both ended up a lot more similar than I would have expected and wanted if you had asked me a year ago.
People fighting over the specs is getting old. People fighting over sales is getting old.

The fanboys out there fervently trying to "convert" others to their "side" are just like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses showing up at my door. I can do my own critical thinking, thanks.

Foxgod3914d ago

They already match, theres a 5% difference between the two at best.
There will even be situations at which the X1 may perform better, such as AI and physics heavy situations.

Some people act like comparing the X1 to the ps4, is like comparing an I5 to an I7, which is over stretched.
Both the X1 and Ps4 are of the same class, theres has never been a generation before with two competitors releasing hardware with such similar specs.

pacostacos3914d ago

idk why people think the difference is huge a lot of devs have been coming out of the woods saying the difference isnt that much and that theyre pretty much close to each other in power

B-radical3914d ago

We have already seen such good things from both consoles i believe xbox one so far has shown its on par with ps4.

How long will it take for ps4 to slip away from xbox one graphically?

Foxgod3914d ago

Wont happen, how many exclusives where actually able to run 30fps Full hd on the ps3? not too many, 99% of them where 30 fps and 720p.

Same with 360 games, they where 720p and 30 fps, both consoles could not do better.

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Nekroo913914d ago

i have no idea since when a difference between 1.3 tflops to 1.8 on the ps4. 32 rops vs 16 on the xbox, 1152 sharders cores vs 768 on the xbox and 25gigapixels/sec vs 12 on the xbox is a 5% between the two at best. LOL
ah and not to mention the ddr3 vs gddr5...overall its a 20% power difference in multiplatform games...not 50% like some fanboys think but 20% something is still something

XabiDaChosenOne3914d ago

If you truly believe that the difference is only 5% while having knowledge of both consoles respective specs than you failed elementary math miserable. Stop damage controlling and accept the facts.

McScroggz3913d ago

I would truly love for you to try and explain to me how there is "a 5% difference between the two at best."

Actually, instead of answering that I'd prefer to know why you constantly spread misinformation?

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fOrlOnhOpe573914d ago

No. I think the specs are more or less finalised before the respective launch dates.
I think MS would be asking for trouble if they try to push for any further performance improvement.
I will be so glad so all this ' mines bigger than yours' crap can have a rest.

Foxgod3914d ago

I would like to see it rest too, its redicilous that people bicker about specs when it comes to consoles.

At best it means your bragging that yours is one nanometer bigger, considering that if you wanna brag about specs, you better be ready to spend a 2000 euro minumum on those bragging rights.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow111h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos9h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos7h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje7h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon7h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum10h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola5h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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SimpleDad7h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola5h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos4h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai6h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK6h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh6h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville2h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.