Grand Theft Auto V will not run 1080p natively on consoles

Gadget Mill: Having done some sneaking around on the official Grand Theft Auto V website – we have found some indications that GTA V will be running at 720p resolution natively and not 1080p. Of course this probably won’t be a shock to most of us even at this late stage of the current generation as GTA V is looking to push its boundaries in terms of size and expectations and heck if GTA IV couldn’t run at 1080P natively it was always going to be very unlikely that GTA V could push its resolution out further with what it is looking to achieve.

Initially we were in search for the GTA V map to be hidden somewhere in the website’s directory and after about half an hour of trying to find it we eventually gave up (it isn’t there – trust us!). However we did find that the screenshots posted on the website were posted at 720p max resolution, we tried various ways to get the website to produce a bigger image of the screenshot but we returned empty handed.

[AbortMission]

Not surprising at all. I wish they can announce GTA V for next gen consoles/PC already.

[deadlydragon121]

Yeah to be honest I didn't expect it to myself. Well as long as we do not see the scenario where the Xbox 360 is running at 720p and the PS3 less than 720p (which happened for GTA4) then I'm completely cool with it!

[Kryptix]

http://www.gamerevolution.c...

I really doubt the PS3 will be running the game lower than 720p since it was developed on it as the lead platform. I think Rockstar saw the benefits of developing it on the PS3 then porting it to the 360 like how it was with Battlefield 3. It means less bugs to address and make it as similar to each other as possible. Can't wait for GTA V.

[slimeybrainboy]

I didnt notice. After I play a game for 120 seconds all the little settings make no difference to me. No matter how small a TV is my brains gets sucked in to what i'm watching an I dont notice.

[Hydrolex]

aooo man, it's gonna suck for me to start playing an awesome game on a 7 years old outdated hardware.... My computer is MONEY, the grahics are SO MONEY that it's just gonna be hard looking at PS3 graphics with those shicy textures and shooty aliasing

[PeEsFour]

@Hydrolex

Cool, meanwhile i will enjoy the game because i want to have fun.

[minimur12]

I didn't know current gen consoles could go up to 1080p???

[Crazyeightzz]

@Kryptic. Where the hellin that article did you get that Rockstar was developing for PS3 and then porting it over to XBox?

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@Minimur

Of course they can! As long as you have a Full HD output (HDMI or other) and the screen itself is capable, almost any piece of hardware can output 1080p, the problem is achieving that with everything else going on. Even you you are able to run PONG in 1080p with any practically mobile or old hardware, the same is not easily done in GTA (or any games more in lines with today's complexity).

[YodaCracker]

Stop spreading misinformation. There is no lead platform, as Rockstar themselves have stated. Both versions were developed simultaneously, no ports:

http://www.rockstargames.co...

Q11: "“Hello Rockstar, I have a question: how much difference will there be between the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game?” – received via Mouthoff

Players can expect the same great gameplay experience on both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 platforms as they have both been developed in tandem. Like all of our games, trust that we’re committed to making sure Grand Theft Auto V looks and runs as great as possible regardless of whether you pick it up for PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360, and we are excited for fans on both platforms to experience Grand Theft Auto V this September. We expect any visual differences to be completely negligible."

[Gaming101]

Even the Ballad of Gay Tony spinoff game was 720p on PS3, they fixed the issues even on the same engine for the DLC episodes.

[dj3boud]

@gaming101

funny you say that.. i just finished TBoGT episode yesterday and i could see how much graphically it was much better than GTA IV.

finished IV and the 2 episodes.. getting ready for V.

[fr0sty]

I can't believe there was ever any doubt about it. Even Gran Turismo 5, the most technically demanding game of this generation to attempt to hit the 1080p native resolution, still had to settle for 1280x1080 instead of 1920x1080 (I may be a bit off on exact pixel count, my memory isn't the best.). Wipeout HD even had to use dynamic resolution, dropping down to lower native resolutions when the action got too intense for 1080p. Who in their right mind thinks these current gen consoles running 7 year old tech and 512mb's of RAM (especially 360, with it's framebuffer only being the 10mb available in it's EDRAM) are going to be able to handle an open world game of the quality of GTA5 at 1080p? Hell, even the next gen systems seem to treat 1080p60 as some sort of hard to reach milestone, with only some of the games on both new consoles supporting that res and framerate together.

Someone who has no idea about the tech in these consoles is trying to make educated guesses about the tech in these consoles... and educated guesses without education are just guesses.

[NihonjinChick]

Yeah, they're probably not announcing it for next gen.

[bumnut]

They will wait until they have sold it to you on 360/ps4, then announce for next gen/pc

[Gamer1982]

Hahaha I read the title of this article and immediatly said to myself NOOOOOO!! REALLY??!?!! DUH!!!!
Who in there right mind thought it would be in 1080p native?? no 3rd party AAA game has ever been 1080p native.

[--Onilink--]

i dont think any game at all has run at native 1080p at all this gen. Wipeout HD and GT5 were 1280x1080, not 1920x1080

[NarooN]

The only game I know of that did true 1080p60fps was Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection on PS3. Not mind-blowing since it was based on the arcade version, which in turn was an updated version of the original PS2/Arcade release. Still, it was a full 1080p framebuffer and ran at 60fps at all times.

There were probably a few indie games and PSN exclusive games that did 1080p, the kind of games that aren't too GPU-bound and don't require much beef, but I don't directly know of any off the top of my head.

[HammadTheBeast]

I dog really want that though. I'd hope they put in effort and time for GTA VI and make it natively on next-gen.

After all, GTA isn't mainly about graphics (this is Rockstar, not Crytek here) it's about the gameplay. San Andreas anyone?

[-Superman-]

To be fair, Grand theft auto 4 alone needs very high PC to run this game with good graphic while Call of Duty dont.

Yeah, if we look details then Call of Duty looks better than Grand theft auto, but again, Grand theft auto is massive while Call of Duty is linear.
When 95% games run 720p, then its impossible to make 1080p native on consoles.

[LAWSON72]

That is a load of crap about gtaiv. My previous rig could run it maxed out except view distance/detail and highest aa at 60fps/1080p and it had a lower end sandy bridge dual core CPU, Intel G850 and HD 6850 that together only costed me around $160

[NarooN]

GTA IV PC version isn't a decent comparison. That port is one of the ones that is well-known for being very poorly-optimized, a poor console port. People with beast rigs even today get random frame drops for no reason in that game.

Thankfully, there's very little chance that the PC version of GTA V (we know it's coming, it's just a matter of when) will suffer from that.

[r1sh12]

@Abortmission

It will come out for PC, most likely a few months later (as history would suggest).

The next gen consoles again will most likely get a release too probably around the same time as the PC (Its easier to port between PC and next gen consoles).

Take2 will always get rockstar to do that, because its about money too.
Not long after that, we will see the PS vita/ iphone android games too.

[dcj0524]

I'd cum if they made 3 GTA games for VITA like there was for PSP.

[Cam977]

Holy crap, it's next month. The journey that began late 2009 ends next month and in it's place, a new one is born: the journey through GRAND THEFT AUTO: V itself.

I just want to say thankyou to my mom, my family, Jesus, God, my friends and everybody who endured the wait with me. IT's ALMOST OVER.

[LakerGamerEnthusiast]

@Cam977

I shall flourish the moment when the loading screens of ALIMIGHTY GTA Flash before my eyes in dazzling bright colors and when the royal music of waiting plays shortly after they start.

Then, I shall properly scream like a little girl when I get to set foot on Southern California, AKA Los Santos for the very first time. :)

(Nah, Jk I won't scream like a little girl) lol

[bakasora]

duh~

[caperjim]

This will be the first GTA that im not buying at launch. Im waiting for either next gen console version or a PC version.

[3-4-5]

Nobody should be surprised by this.

90% of games on Current gen only run 720p max.

[Rodney25]

Oh no! You mean like the other 99% of current gen games!?

[Valenka]

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but didn't Rockstar already announce that GTA V was not going to next-gen consoles? I know they haven't confirmed or denied a PC release, but I'm pretty sure they denied a next-gen release.

It would make sense too, since they're working on an original, open-world IP for the Xbox One and PS4.

[showtimefolks]

AbortMission

if they do that than it will hurt sales on current systems, don't hold out for GTA5 on next gen consoles since RS aren't really known for porting their games to next gen consoles

we still waiting for GTA HD collection

[Snookies12]

'Tis fine, I shall buy it on console... Then buy it on PC when that is available. (For mods and all that good stuff...)

[TrevorPhillips]

Game will be amazing, I mean it's a huge ass game.

[N7Lukas]

Wow, i would never have guessed that a game as big and as ambitious as GTA5 wouldn't run at native 1080p on 7 year old consoles.

/S

[deadlydragon121]

No need for the sarcasm, no one is slaying the game whatsover. Just confirming that it is most likely not going to support anything above 720p natively.

[JackVagina]

no shit

[PeEsFour]

Of course it wont, who the hell lets this posts come through.

[cyguration]

An absolute idiot would have to be hit with an autistic stick to believe that GTA V on dated consoles would be 1080p native.

That...or they've got hold of some of the best hash in town...mmm...hash.

[ape007]

Duh!

[ColinZeal]

Yeah, seriously. What´s the next GTA related article from that site?
"Grand Theft Auto 5 (V) will not be released on PS2"???
*facepalm*

[iMaim]

In other news, you can also shoot people.

[Doctoglethorpe]

This is BULLSHIT. Pre-order canceled.

[deadlydragon121]

hahaha if only it was that easy!

[imt558]

Who wants 1080p anyway...:)

[RedDeadLB]

No shit sherlock. The game looks too phenomenal for consoles to be able push all that at 1080p.

[deadlydragon121]

Well at least we know it probably isn't going to be less than 720p - think GTA IV PS3.

[RedDeadLB]

And thank god for that. That game was blurry as hell on PS3. And it ran like dog crap. Performance wise, GTAIV was horrible across all platforms.

I'm still hoping for a PC release soon. My PS3 bit the dust and I'd really like to see how this game would look on PC.

[MidnytRain]

If you had said this before the PS4 announcement you would've been debubbled to death, lol.

[MrTrololo]

Guess many need to wait for the PC version to get the best experience

[No_Limit]

As long as both versions are 720p and maintain a solid framerate, that is all i care about.

[maximus1985]

agreed. GTA V news is so slow that anything is passing as news

[Indo]

I remember when the PS3 and 360 were suppose to support 1080p format. But that didn't happen and we're 7yrs in their cyle. Hopefully their be a PC version.

[deadlydragon121]

Exactly but in the PS3 scenario it didn't even reach 720p as it wasn't the lead console at the time.

[dark-hollow]

They do have some very few full hd games but they are mainly sports games/arcade/games that doesn't push very demanding graphics.

[bub16]

As I keep saying. Its not all about graphics. Look at games like minecraft and cod

Aslong as it has a solid frame rate then I'm happy

[Foxgod]

Well, doh? the previous one was Sub HD, so i am not sure if GTAV will even archieve 720P.

[Yodagamer]

Only the ps3 was sub HD, 360 was 720p. I'm actually kind of surprised they maintained 720p considering the improvements with the graphics.

[Braid]

What game runs at native 1080p on consoles, anyway? They're either upscaled or low profile games like Wipout HD or Virtua Tennis 3.

[PeEsFour]

Gran Turismo 6 runs at native 1080p.

[GiantFriendlyCrab]

if it comes to pc, it sure will come for next gen consoles. The Pc version may even be delayed. sorry for going off-topic

[H4zZz4]

I just don't really care, it's going to be a great game anyway!

[GentlemenRUs]

"Grand Theft Auto V will not run 1080p natively on consoles..."

Ooh! A hint towards a PC version?

[LKHGFDSA]

Of course it won't be 1080p on current gen consoles, that's impossible for a game like this.
Atleast 1280×768 is slightly more than standard HD.
(still hoping this game gets a PS4 release)

[nthstew]

its 1024x768 720p not 1280×720 720p

[mochachino]

This is news?

[kaozgamer]

I really hope that they did something to minimize those horrible jaggies in gta4

[PersonMan]

No crap! 1080p would make the game look worse than 720p because the graphics would have to take a hit to get that extra resolution and it wouldn't be worth it.

[Scatpants]

Did anybody think it would run 1080P? Do any current gen games run 1080p?

[BattleTorn]

Duh.

[KingKevo]

Did ANYONE seriously think it would?! LOOOOOOOOL

Edit: I mean GTA 4 ran in 720p on the 360 and sub-HD on the PS3 and the world was a lot smaller than GTA 5's world, so it's would be pretty naive and idiotic that such a game could run in 1080p, especially when other, smaller, more linear games have trouble to run in 720p at 30fps. So to me it's already impressive if the games does run in HD on the two consoles and has a stable framerate.

[Jovanian]

Probably wouldn't even be able to run 1080p on next gen consoles either...without at least making massive sacrifices to framerate and pop-in and stuff like that

[SuperSteve]

On PS4/XO it would actually look as good as it does in the trailers.

[GamePeace]

As Xbox 360 owner you will only Need to buy a VGA cable and put your Screen Resolution at 1920x1080p, then you have full HD. Played and tested many games with HDMI 720x480, 1080x720 in comparison to VGA 1920x1080 ecc. second one Looks better, for example Skyrim at 1920x1080p, it looked worlds better than my previous Resolution with HDMI cable, try it on your own, you will notice the differences... VGA cable costs around 20-30 euros/Dollars.. dont Forget that you Need a full HD TV with VGA Support, to plug in the cable...

[Jovanian]

that my friend is called upscaling, and a far-cry from true 1080p at that

[GamePeace]

Yes, and you cant deny it, never said thats true 1080p, your tv have to be true hd, then Switch to the Resolution and make yourself a soup of mushrooms, my "friend"...

[Braid]

That you see "1080p" indication on your TV's OSD doesn't mean the game is actually running at that resolution.

In order to see what native resolution your games are actually running at, there's a great list you can refer to:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[BattleTorn]

Are you trying to say that component cables give a better picture than HDMI?

[linkenski]

And who the heck would've thought this would happen anyway? None of the really hard-pushing titles have been running more than 720p, in fact GTA IV which is bound to look uglier than this ran in 640p on PS3 or something like that.

[i8urCAKE]

It still looks great !

[ExitToExisT]

99 x360/ps3 games out of 1000 run at 720p or even lower like 640p,560p.. So why is this news

[Krosis]

Lmao it really shows how bloody stupid these endless fanboy squabbles about "power" are. I was waiting for a PC release anyways; no news here folks lol

[ame22]

How exactly is this news? How did this make it's way to the top?

[link4117]

Excatly. It's some rumor from a random site after they couldn't find 1080 screenshots on a website... Truly the peak of journalism and totally newsworthy.

[RobbyGrob]

I'm surprised that people more aren't disappointed with this. This is really discerning news. The resolution makes an enormous impact on the graphics quality. 1280x720 is a really ancient res that belongs to Nintendo. I mean seriously, 1080P was considered standard for PC five years ago. PCs are pushing 4k now and consoles aren't even hitting 1080? I thought the whole point with all the power of the next-gen consoles was so that people finally could start enjoying games in full HD and never go under 60 FPS. If they can't even cram that out of a PS4, what's even the point with the next gen? Just release the next-gen games on the current gen consoles and experience the same thing.

I certainly hope they'll be heavily relying on anti-aliasing, and anistropic filtering for that matter, or they might as well go back to the drawing board and wait another three years to release consoles that actually are capable of higher resolutions than the PS3 and XB360. I mean when you buy a new PC you certainly expect it to be able to perform a hell of a lot better. This news is terrible for console gamers.

[SuperSteve]

This article doesn't mention the new consoles, just the ones that GTA V has been announced for, which is why nobody is upset.

Hell, I'm shocked it can even do NATIVE 720p at this point...

[RobbyGrob]

Indeed it doesn't. But it doesn't mention PS3 or XB360 either. So it doesn't make it clear which platforms they're actually talking about, thus making me assume they mean the next-gen, as writing an article about full HD not happening on the *current* gen is utterly pointless. Surely they must mean the next-gen consoles.

[SonyPS4]

It's not that we don't want 1080p, none of us expected it. Well-built gaming PCs from 5 years ago have much better (and newer) hardware than PS3 and 360 released 7-8 years ago, therefore it can run games in 1080p/60FPS without much issue. 3 years is a huge leap in technology.

[RobbyGrob]

"3 years is a huge leap in technology."

Well exactly. And the leap from PS3 to PS4 is technically huge. It should do full HD like it does surround sound; without even a debate. I'd be very surprised and disappointed if the next gen consoles won't do 1080p in at least 30 FPS. My cheap laptop can do that in BF3 and Skyrim ffs.

Also, i'm not just talking about PC gaming standards, but the world-wide standards for TVs in general. There was quite an outcry about how NBA was the only game that could do full HD on the PS3 soon after its release. I don't see why the lack of full HD for a way more powerful console generation should generate any less of an outcry. This is quite astounding.

[PepperjackJig]

It doesn't have to mention PS3 or 360 BECAUSE those are the confirmed platforms

[KontryBoy706]

Something keeps telling me this game is coming to next gen consoles anyway. I'm just hoping it will make its way to PC sooner than GTA IV did. I think R* is going to shock the world and pull an okie doke and release this game on PS4/XB1 and people will be rightfully pissed

[rammstein91]

u dont say!even gta iv not in 720p it's running in 630p

[Deku-Johnny]

That's because it's only out on PS3 and 360 which aren't capable of native HD.

[madjedi]

Hd starts at 720p, sorry your wrong they are fully capable of it, they are also fully capable of 1080p but devs don't target that resolution because too many comprises have to be made.

Native resolution means the resolution the game is already running at before any upscaling by either the device or tv is applied.

[JohnS1313]

Why is this even a story? By now we all know most games are 720p. GTA V is on the PS3 and 360, not the PS4 and Xbone.

[link4117]

Why are people accepting this as fact? It's a rumor. It's theory. Look at the original story, they didn't get confirmation from Rockstar or anything. They "dug around the site" for clues. This is another non-story that people are taking as fact.

Personally I don't really care if it runs at 720p, it bugs me more that "Rumor" isn't in the title. Or make the "opinion piece" text super large.

[cunnilumpkin]

lol...it won't even be 720p, get real

gta iv was 640p on ps3

gta v will be native 1920x1080p on pc

also, it will be 2560x1440p, and on my monitor and many 1000's of others it will be 2560x1600p

some people will be rocking it in 4k

[Plagasx]

This is why they need to announce the damn game on PC already.

[rigbybot127]

As long as the game is as amazing as I can imagine, I wouldn't even care if it was sub-HD. It's already looking better than IV, which made the #5 spot on my best games of all-time list.

[Monkeyonfire13]

Fo shizzle, I dont blame them. Running it in Full HD would make it UN playable because it wouldn't fit on the damn disk. NOW down the road with the cloud and a better IP network, sure you could play it over stream in Full HD.

[annus]

Resolution is purely processing power, it has nothing to do with data size. You can have high res textures in a low res game (though it won't be obvious), or low res textures in a high res game.

[Sy_Wolf]

In other news, water is wet and grass is green.

[DOOMZ]

Getting it on next gen anyway!

[MikeyDucati1]

Ahhhh...nice!

[kingduqc]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT??????????????? ???!!!!!!!!!!!

[madjedi]

So when did people confuse a marketing term like full hd to mean 1080p?

[kingPoS]

What were people expecting.... honestly. Jeez!

[memots]

No shit.

[Valkyre]

well…. no shit Sherlock…