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Exactly How Bad is the Nintendo Situation?

IGN: "Today’s financial results reveal Wii U sales below even the most pessimistic expectations. But should we be worried about Nintendo?"

NYC_Gamer3912d ago

Nintendo needs to hire some new leadership who better understands today's home console gaming market

dark-hollow3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

I don't see that much of a problem since the new leadership managed to make two extremely successful platform of Wii and DS and the 3ds is doing very well too.

The problems with Wii u are:

1-price
2-lack of games
3-lack of a good marketing campaign.

jimbobwahey3912d ago

I think the Wii was the exception when you take into account that the N64, GameCube and now the Wii U have all performed very poorly.

Nintendo does well in the handheld market, but when it comes to home consoles they have absolutely no idea what they doing and save for striking lucky once, they get absolutely dominated by Sony and Microsoft.

I can see Nintendo going handheld-only and focusing on that market eventually, because they just don't have the resources to keep up with the home console industry at all (see them struggling to create software for a console that's part of a generation that's now ending) and it will only get worse as time goes by. With the handheld market though, that isn't a concern and they can pump out their money makers there.

gaffyh3912d ago

It's mainly lack of games, and because Nintendo haven't supported it well with first party titles, the console doesn't sell, and then third parties give up on it. It's a vicious circle.

modesign3912d ago

not really, the problem is the wii has hit the skids, its no longer "cool, hip" or a fad, its now a dud, then they blew their money on a wiiu, which turned into a dud from day 1. usually after that you fire your executives and think of a new strategy before your company hits rock bottom.

there handhelds division is successful but you cant depend on handhelds, just ask sony. lol

the real question what did nintendo do with the revenue they did get from the wii.

ShinMaster3912d ago

The GamePad just doesn't have the same appeal as the Wii Remote. Period.

I think Nintendo was counting on the casuals and moms to buy into it the same way they did with the Wii. But that novelty has worn off.
And that's the thing about causal markets. It is fad driven and fads don't last.

The Wii U's performance is right in line with the GameCube and N64.
The Nintendo fanbase just isn't as big as the internet makes it seem.

greenlantern28143912d ago

I think the biggest problem is their marketing or lack there of, I have seen 3 wiiu commercials since it launched. And I know quite a few people who think it is just a really expensive tablet controller for the Wii. And the price is the next problem since many people are unaware of the features it has and the perception is that 32gb HD and 2 gb of ram are just not enough when looking at consoles with 500gb HDs and 8 gb of ram.

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MizTv3912d ago

I think they just need some good games

SuperLupe3912d ago

The blame goes to the top management completely out of touch with what the market needs. The Wii U is a console in the wrong time frame with no market hence nobody actually going out there to buy one.

It happened with the Xbox One too until the 180 but they are still suffering the consequences.

And it also happened to the PS3 with an "unneccessary" Cell chip and using the PS3 as a trojan horse for bluray that pretty much gave an open boulevard to the 360 to get to the point it is today.

Luckily for Sony and MS they were able to turn the ship back in the righ direction (Xbox One hasn't launched yet but I'm more than convinced that MS will be just fine). As for Nintendo they have an extremely tough journey ahead of them.

RobbyGrob3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

I think you're right. Nintendo have clearly had a much too optimistic confidence in Wii U as they in large pretty much did something that they A) didn't need to do and B) have done something that Nintendo never really did before either; released a console merely to deliver better graphics. Nintendo have released amazing games without ever having to do graphics better than its opposition. Nobody really needed Wii U as the people who love Wii obviously don't do so for its HD resolution, which Nintendo have recently admitted is what is slowing Nintendo-native developers down as they're not used to having to make games made for such high resolutions, which apparently is what is creating the lack of games, which is why the console doesn't have any edge. In terms of innovation, the controller has a screen in it... so what? Their DS consoles have had that for many years, and the people who consider having such a function important obviously already have a portable console. The Wii U controller could have been released for the Wii anyway.

Consoles need a purpose, and Nintendo have yet to give a good one to the Wii U.

kenshiro1003912d ago

Solid observation. I like Nintendo and would hate to see them fail. They need a steer in the right direction.

ShinMaster3912d ago

So was the PS2 a Trojan horse for DVD as well?
Come on, I think Blu-ray has proven itself by now.

Guwapo773912d ago

I am very thankful for Sony's Trojan horse, we could had been stuck with DVDs or HD-DVD.

Pretty much spot on with your statements.

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3-4-53912d ago

They are roughly in about the same situation as the PS3 was at this exact time after it's Launch back in 2006.

Literally maybe 100,000 units difference in terms of what was sold, between the two.

Look at the turn around the PS3 has done and understand that Nintendo has been at it much longer than Sony and will also find a way.

In fact, their victory plan is already in place, most people aren't open minded enough to see it though.

We've become a society of " know it alls" without actually knowing much at all.

5-6 huge games for Wii U to be released, plus another 5-10 in dev we haven't heard of yet.

Nintendo could literally "pull a dremcast" and fail this gen and still have Billions to spend on the next gen after this one.

That is worst case scenario.

kneon3912d ago

The situations are very different, if the numbers I saw are correct then the Wii U has only sold about 500,000 units for the first 6 months of this year. The PS3 never sold that poorly.

You are making the mistake of looking at the total sales since launch. The launch was fine but that was because of pent up demand from the core Nintendo fans. If you were to plot this on a graph you would see sales have plummeted and there is no indication that they are going to turn around any time soon.

Even if things pick up during the holidays they might still end up selling less total units in 2013 than they did in just two months in 2012.

Reibooi3912d ago

Comparing it to the PS3 isn't exactly a good comparison. The PS3 did come from behind to a degree but it was competing against next gen consoles looming on the horizon.

If the Wii U had come out at the start of last gen I would be 100% with ya on saying things could be easily turned around. But where the Wii U is in time it will be facing the Xbox One and PS4 and most gamers will not want to pay what is a similar price for a Wii U when it's a last gen console.

Will games turn it around? I don't know. For me personally I can say yes. At the start of the Wii U I wanted nothing to do with it but now I will be getting one for Bayonetta 2, X, Fire Emblem x SMT, Wind Waker HD and a few others that have slipped my mind. For me those games are enough of a reason to get the Wii U. But I don't know if everyone will think that way, especially with the PS4 and Xbox One right around the corner.

3-4-53912d ago

It's about total sales at this time and Wii U is over a million.

3D Mario - 2-5 million

Mario Kart 8 - 2-5 million

Super Smash Brothers - 2-5 million

Legend of Zelda - 2-5 million

Wind Waker HD - 300,000-1 million

Pikmin 3 - 1 million

FE X SMT = 200,000-800,000

These games will be responsible for another 1 million Wii U's sold, at least.

Anon19743912d ago

Another thing to consider when contrasting this to PS3 numbers is the competition. The Wii-U is underpowered and only $50 cheaper than a PS4. While the Wii enjoyed hype and a price advantage over it's competition, the Wii-U doesn't have much momentum to speak of and facing down against the PS4 and XBox One this holiday will be an uphill battle, to say the least.

On a side note, I find it a little odd IGN is accusing Sony of hiding Vita numbers by lumping them in with similar electronics. Are they also hiding sales of their cameras by grouping those together, or are they hiding something by not breaking down their television sales on their financials per model? Of course not. Investors don't expect or care to see a detailed, model by model sales breakdown of every device the company makes when the financials come out. Hell, Microsoft flat out skipped reporting Xbox 360 figures for two quarters back when they started seeing year over year declines in 2007 and no one said boo. There's nothing sinister about grouping similar products for the purpose of simplifying financial reports. Every company does it, unless they only have a handful of products to start with.

Solo2273912d ago

The difference with the PS3 is that SONY had built a "future proof" system. And knew that the plan was to throw all resources into first party titles to build the hype.

Nintendo is trying to do that with a system that should have came out 6 years ago. With all the money they made from the Wii, you would have expected them to be way ahead of the game when it comes to the next gen. But their fatal flaw was falling for there own hype.

They built a system thats outdated and still relying on the motion tech to carry it.

Hardly comparable to what Sony accomplished and definitely not gonna deal with the same fate. The Wii U will eventually get black balled out of this gen just like Dreamcast did.

SilentNegotiator3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

The comparison to Ps3 is completely inaccurate.

-Ps3 didn't have an European market until half a year in.
-Ps3 was a high powered, expensive system, not weak compared to the competition and yet almost the same price range.
-Ps3 quickly garnered (and kept) considerable third party support, unlike every Nintendo console post-SNES.
-Ps3 has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER sold as poorly as Wii U has in the last 6 months. EVER.
-Gamecube only had 8 games sell 2 million or more copies in it's lifetime...and you're predicting that Wii U will reach half of that with some of its nearest titles? Please. Wii was a rare case where the system sold a lot of its software by having an obscene number of hardware sold and being incredibly cheap. Wii U's launch was an explosion because there was so much pseudo-demand; it was supposed to be sold out for months and it wasn't sold out for a week.

Stop kidding yourself with comparisons to Ps3. The situations are not even close to being similar. In a month or two, the "100K difference" (if that's even accurate) will be gone and the gap will continue to grow and this Ps3 comparison that fanboys keep using will continue to look sillier and sillier.

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OmegaSlayer3912d ago

Big question to the WiiU owners...
If the WiiU fails and Nintendo releases a new hardware in 2015, will you buy it?

sincitysir13912d ago

Of course they will. People always buy for what they believe in

PopRocks3593912d ago

Whether or not the Wii U is ultimately a failure is irrelevant. There is no way Nintendo is putting out another console. They stuck it out with the N64 and Gamecube. I guarantee they are sticking it out with Wii U as well. Mark my words on that.

Movieworld3911d ago

Yes. I have owned every Nintendo console and i've enjoed every last one of them especially the Wii U why would I not buy the new one?

BOWZER353911d ago

Also I think once the new games come out and maybe sell more they will change the consoles rep online. I mean it gets bashed so hard by the media but when people actually see mine, (family and gamers) all the bashing goes away and they respect it. They either want one our say that it actually isn't that bad. The console speaks for itself.

nosferatuzodd3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

nintendo will be fine all they need is some good games thats all the system is very easy to develop for and they need to work on their network get rid of that stupid online phone number no one can remember that crap

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Reeze3912d ago

Wii U sales are bad now, but more key first party titles will pick up the pace.

_QQ_3912d ago

yeah this report was only up to june.

Drekken3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

160k units sold last quarter. WiiU sales are in the tank and circling the drain. Mario 17 will help though, right?

Link: http://n4g.com/news/1322661...

T23912d ago

I am wondering if they wouldnt make more cash just making games again .. Or they could try in say 2015 to port some games to multiplatform... ? Unless their console sales take off of course

nosferatuzodd3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

dam Reeze
look at all the disagrees you're getting i bet there from Call of duty fanboys

thomasmiller3912d ago

WHAT BAD SITUATION... http://mynintendonews.com/2... YEAH SORRY TROLLS nintendo is going to do fine, grow up and get over it!

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imXify3912d ago

They still do fine because the WiiU never had a price cut, so they still can generate the max profit from it.

deep_fried_bum_cake3912d ago

Max profit? They've never made any profit on it. The WiiU is sold at a loss. They are profitable because of other aspects of their business.

ABizzel13912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

BS Wii U isn't selling for a loss in any capacity. Their profit comes from the few Wii u's, Wii's, and DS that are still selling, but mostly from 3DS + software.

Wii U cost no more than $260 to make, and most breakdown analysis of the hardware points closer to $230 for the console + controller. And those analysis were done back in 2012 when the leaks of the hardware were all but confirmed.

http://www.forgetthebox.net...
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Nintendo needs major first party games, discontinue the basic model and sell it off at $199, drop the price of the Deluxe model down to $249 and add a real HDD in it (at least 120GB), and make games that use more than 1 tablet controller so they can sell another tablet controller as another source of revenue.

This will get sells up to respectable numbers, they would still make a profit off games, tablet controllers, and a slight profit on consoles.

Nintendo you don't have another Wii success story on your hands so you need to produce some great HD games and prepare for the next generation of consoles while you're at it.

With consoles it's go big or go home, and Nintendo you're on your way out of the console business if Wii U fails and you learn nothing with your Next console.

deep_fried_bum_cake3912d ago

ABizzel1

*ahem*

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Now last I checked there hasn't been an official price cut yet. So unless it's now cheaper to produce the WiiU (which it may well be, I don't know) then it is still being sold at a loss.

Concertoine3912d ago

Nintendo will be fine, its the wii u we're worried about. They need to do more to push the system.

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Death3912d ago

Nintendo is doing fine financially. WiiU sales are below expectations though. It is not a bad console and well worth the price tag. Nintendo just needs some more software to get people to buy.

sincitysir13912d ago

No offense but it's nothing more than an hd ds.

deafdani3912d ago

I agree, partially. There's a bad situation for the Wii U console, but not for Nintendo as a whole.

nosferatuzodd3909d ago

don't say that the Xbox fan boys doesn't like that they know if nintendo start doing well they'll be in last place again look at all the disagrees you're getting

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hollabox3912d ago

Looks like having an small presence at E3 did nothing for their console business.

hollabox3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

Oh the disagrees! I'm just saying Nintendo failed to create excitement/buzz by using someone who can barely speak English against a plain looking conference room. Every title Nintendo announced everybody expected. I actually expected more titles like a Metroid, Star Fox Adventures, and home console version of Kid Icarus.

Overall its just poor management by Nintendo. Some of their actions is downright laughable. How do you not know it takes more people to create HD graphics? A concepts that has been around for over an decade. Why would you create a system that sells for $350 with maybe a third more performance than current gen? Nintendo failed to keep a steady stream of quality software release after lunch creating large gaps between titles. Nintendo squandered the opportunity to showcase their products at E3, the largest video game media event.

Instead we got a very boring Nintendo Direct with expected announcements. I know the hardcore fans were excited but people on the edge didn't seem to care to much, this is reflected by the recent hardware sales.

T23912d ago

It appears nintendo is convinced the wii model of fun over tech would continue forever, but it doesnt appear to be quite as successful ...

sincitysir13912d ago

Why do people get upset over a few disagrees? Only justify ur statement when u hve like 20 disagrees. Not 4-_-

SilentNegotiator3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

"BU BUB BUT that was a brilliant decision!! They're bad at doing teh E3 conferenc, so the obvious solution is to throw it away, not get better at it! What's millions upon millions of views (as well as media attention) compared to the amount of hardcore Nintendo fans that will watch Nintendo direct? Nothing, man. Nothing.

Oh, and how could Microsoft or Sony never think to have demo-consoles with demos of unreleased games within Bestbuy? What a revolutionary thought...I've never seen a demo Ps3 or Xbox in a BestBuy with game demos on it. Never. They just don't have Playstations or Xboxs setup in BestBuys"

hollabox3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

Nintendo direct was pretty bad, I don't think having an proper E3 conference could had been much worst. If these guys are professional at what they do there should be no excuses for a bad E3 conference, very amateurish. Satoru Iwata sounded about as monotone as the Clear Eyes commercials guy. That's not good when Nintendo is trying to get people excited to buy a Wii U.

Nintendo would had been better off letting Reggie do Nintendo Direct. Reggie is good at creating excitement and highlighting Nintendo's agenda and success. But nope they had Iwata do it, and since E3 and a little bit before sales has been dismal.

Now when you compare Sony's E3 to every one else, Sony came out swinging. Unlike MS and Nintendo, Sony knew how to get their point across, they created so much buzz during their presentation gamers and journalist completed overlook the PS4 having some of the same restrictions as XB1. Heck I was so impressed, I preordered the PS4 with plans on buying the X1 in January. Now that's E3 being done right, show off your hardware, show off your software, get people immersed in your presentation and they are going to talk about positively.

I don't know where you live but I see demos at Best Buy all the time with X360s and PS3s. Rather its demoing motion controls, headphones, or Sony demoing their Bravia setup with a PS3, Home Theater System, and their top of the line LED HDTVs. Microsoft usually release E3 demos as well during the conference so there's no need to stand in line at Best Buy. Doesn't make sense to me unless I didn't own that console but thinking about it. Obviously with the sales numbers Best Buy demoes didn't work for Nintendo.

Stroke6663911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Ur obviously not a nintendo fan but you saw the direct. Lmmfao, all these people can state how boring it was and that nintendo didn't make a good decision, how only the fanboys watched it bu bub but wait, how do you know anything about it unless you watched it or read about it in the media(thats media attention by the way). And lets get this cleat sony and ms have NEVER.....EVER...#Y2J had demos of games they presented at e3 in stores the week of the same e3.

I had an epiphany, no I'm no fanboy but satcasm is not sarcastic when its stupid.

SilentNegotiator3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

@stroke

Just because I saw the Nintendo direct, doesn't mean that even remotely the same amount of people saw them as do the E3 conferences.

"And lets get this cleat sony and ms have NEVER.....EVER...#Y2J had demos of games they presented at e3 in stores the week of the same e3"

But they have on XBL and PSN. And big deal besides; they don't have to show it off the same week as E3 to get it in people's hands before release.

Concertoine3912d ago

People who want a wii u have no conflict with that descision like how some might be deciding between ps4/xbox one. The system is unique, and the games played on it will probably feel very specific to that system. I dont admire the wii u for its power like i do the ps4, but its identity against 2 black boxes directly competing with largely multiplatform games.
When the wide variety of games start coming out, both hardcore (bayonetta 2, smash bros, X, SMTxFE) and casual (Super mario 3d world, pikmin 3, mario and sonic at the olympic games, mario kart) will start to buy the system, simple as that.

sincitysir13912d ago

It is not unique. At least not to Nintendo. Like I said before its an hd ds. Not a bad thing but don't say unique. Nothing is unique

Stroke6663911d ago

Its unique in that the screens are not connected. Its unique in that it has a different game library(however minuscule it is right now lol). Every system has something unique about it, the companies just have to learn to use it to sell their brand

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref2d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde2d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19722d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville2d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 21h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref2d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan2d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref2d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde2d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19722d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier2d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto2d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 21h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 15h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel9d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing8d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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The Nintendo Partner Spotlight Sale Is The Perfect Excuse To Get These 6 Gems

Huzaifa from eXputer: "The Nintendo Partner Spotlight sale event has discounted a number of worthy titles on the Switch. Here are 6 of them you should check out."