Sessler Something Xbox One's Indie Surprise, and is the PS4 RAM Allocation Cause of Concern?

Adam talks about the Xbox One's new look on indie gaming and self-publishing.

[XboxFun]

RAM, RAM, RAM!

So awesome to be a gamer. RAM has become the new Cell.

[Fergusonxplainsall]

@Skips

You've hit the nail through the coffin on this. Still people will deny it. (Xbox 1 vs PS4)..(DDR3 vs GDDR5)..

I'm going all out on high numbers today.

I do notice PS fans bring out facts as fast as they can while Xbox fans try to cover up or all out LIE about hard facts. A form of denial.

Silly I guess eh?

[MRMagoo123]

Thats the thing the xboners have not facts to bring up, MS dont even know whats going on how could the fans lol.

[HammadTheBeast]

That's why Maria gets so much hate, he brings out the facts, and they sting so much.

[rela82me]

He doesn't really bring out facts, in fact his largest argument seems to be all graphics based. I can argue the fact that Borderlands 2 has terrible graphics but still better than 70% of the trash that is launching on BOTH systems.

If games were just about graphics than CryEngine would be much more successful. What I can argue is that the Xbox brand has, in two iterations, swept up an entire fanbase from Sony. With seemingly inferior hardware each console. I am not saying that the Xbox One will be the most powerful. Strength is only HALF the battle.

If you focus all your power in one area such a strength you lack in other areas as well. I am not defending the titles on the One, but for the sake of argument, lets look at the ps4 launch lineup. Killzone for instance is a BEAUTIFUL looking game. As far as anything that is groundbreaking in gameplay, I am particularly let down. It in all essence is simply a new story, and a boost in graphics. For some that may be okay, why fix what isn't broken. I'll hand it to Infamous, that is the one game I look forward to when I get my PS4. The game overcomes a lot of technical feats but it lacks in my eyes, at least as of now, some creativity.

That leads me to Microsoft and their strategy. They came out of the gate trying to do something different. Albeit it was probably their worst mistake in since their debut in gaming; but they tried. DRM in it's conception is necessary direction for the industry, but their are less restrictive ways to handle this IMO, than the way that MS handled it.

Anyway to make a long rant short; graphics and RAM do not sell systems, it is their support and features. If MS has all the hardware they need to implement the features they believe that people want, than that very well may be enough for most people. I know that some people just want the hardware with higher numbers. Even though Goliath had all the strength, David had the innovation, cunning, willpower,and intelligence to win the battle.

[Skizelli]

I care about games, not specs. But that's just me.

[DatNJDom81]

Adam sessler is such a bot...... He is so biased for xbox that its kinda disgraceful.

[ohiostatesman]

Right on Sessler. Glad someone is able to speak the truth.

[morganfell]

The date something was recorded is no excuse for promoting rumors as fact. Particularly so when you are aware of the truth before your story goes to air. His actions are inexcusable. Shame on you dirtbag Sessler. Another journalistic disservice to the gaming community.

A story passed on as gospel without basis in fact is deceptive seven days a week. Date disclaimers do not excuse what was by the time he published the story a known lie.

A professional journalist would have pulled the story entirely for the sake of integrity and proper reporting to the gaming public. But Sessler's ego had to have it's 15 minutes and he let the incorrect information ride. That isn't reporting but rather publicly urinating on gamers seeking facts.

[dedicatedtogamers]

No, "the infinite power of the Cloud" has become the new "The powah of the Cell".

RAM has well-documented and easily-understandable benefits.

The delicious irony is that many months ago Digital Foundry (you know, the same folks who ran with the now-disproven 4.5 Gigs for gaming rumor) wrote an article "proving" that Playstation Orbis was a more powerful system with 4 Gigs of GDDR5 than Durango was with 8 Gigs of DDR3+eSRAM. You can find the article here: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So, even though certainly people were eager to latch onto DF's latest RAM rumor, DF was the same source who "proved" a 4 Gig PS4 would be more powerful than an 8 Gig XBox One. And now that we know PS4 has 8 Gigs of RAM...

Like I said, delicious irony. And for the record, my opinion is that DF's original comparison between Orbis and Durango was garbage, but if you're gonna use someone as your source for "proof" in the CoNsOlE WaRzZ then you have to consider everything else they said, too.

[RememberThe357]

Well said. But we all have to admit this is getting out of hand. Most people who are bringing up all these numbers with RAM and the cloud don't actually know anything about what they're talking about. They have no clue how cloud commuting works or how to use memory. They have no clue how basic coding effects all of this. All i see on these posts are a munch of kids with way too much time on their hands, pretending to know things they clearly don't.

[dedicatedtogamers]

@ Remember

Indeed. What's worse is when people don't even check their sources. Digital Foundry "proved" that a 4 Gig PS4 was more powerful than an 8 Gig Xbox One. I think if fanboys knew that, they wouldn't be so quick to rush to Digital Foundry's defense now that the RAM rumor has been debunked.

[ohiostatesman]

It hasn't been disproven. People keep saying this but nothing has been disproven. Sony only states that there is 1gb flexible ram on top of 4.5 gb. Which doesn't mean a thing.

[MRMagoo123]

@ohio

But it has been dis-proven actual ps4 devs have said they are using 6gb of ram which proves they arent held back to 4 or 5.5 or whatever the next rumor will be.

[ShabbaRanks]

...

http://www.amd.com/Publishi...

[Spoons]

@Maria

You put on a convincing facade to some, but it's laughable in my eyes. Even your false sense of confidence can't save you as others, even ps4 fanboys on this website, start to see you as the troll you are... And yes Maria, people prove you wrong all day. You are simply so deluded you cannot see past what you want to see. You are outdone in almost every debate I have ever seen yet, for obvious reasons, you fervently denounce it.

[NeoTribe]

Actually no. While people may be annoyed by him, he has the closest to facts you can get really. Much more so than your typical xbot. He surely is a fanboy, but a very well informed factual one. Your true weakness against him is that your trying to defend an inferior product. Xbots can't seem to post any proof of there consoles superiority because there really isn't anything.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

"every great story needs a superhero",, you joined yesterday,. but like all your accounts,. spin the same web.

why don[t you focus on system updates, games, and other things this site is to be used for, and stop focusing on the people that post.

(you are replaceable.)

[BABY-JEDI]

Though Maria trolls, Maria is good at bringing out the trolls. LoL, something akin to a Troll Magnet
; D

[bligmerk]

Sessler has become a has-been and really needs to go find some other kind of work than just a video game commentator. His palsy is getting worse over time and he might want to look at being just a writer or some other role behind the screen.

[Machiavellian]

Actually Ram is the new battlefront for fanboys to use as weapons against the heathens. You only have to visit this site enough to have read the battle list. After E3 the Sony Fanboys would jump into a thread and list all the advantages that the PS4 had over the X1. First it was that MS spent 3GB and 2 cores for their OS. Next thing you know, we find out that Sony is using 2 to 3GB for their OS and 2 cores for the OS.

Just like any war vet, you hate when you have a reduction in ammunition. This is why we see the lines getting drawn on something that really isn't a big deal to consumers and probably not be a big deal to developers for quite a while.

[GribbleGrunger]

I don't know what it is about Sessler but I sometimes don't trust him. Yeah, we get it, Sessler, you recorded this on Friday (you went to great pains to nail that home) but you still put this out on the 29th ... Too difficult to edit that section out? And the FUD continues, by a complete accident of circumstance of course

[DragonKnight]

I think he does it so that people can't call him out on mistakes. So if someone were to say to him "Sony clarified it, you're an idiot" he can say "hey, when I filmed this, nothing was clarified." And that way he technically avoids a clusterf*ck of hate like he received for his B.S. about the God of War Ascension trophy.

Madam Sessler is definitely a slick one though. He was one of those people who said Sony didn't clarify their used games policy before E3 when they clearly did.

[GribbleGrunger]

Believe it or not, I love Sessler. He's articulate and intelligent and digs deeper into gaming than any other journalist out there, but sometimes, just sometimes, a little incident like this crops up to make me doubt him. This was put up on the 29th. Are you telling me that he couldn't delay the video or edit that section out? Someone desperately wants this out there before the facts are presented.

[RememberThe357]

Sess seems to bite too early some times. The God of War thing you mention, that frankly other people blew way out of proportion (ones guys opinion should not set off a fire storm, kids these days, so sensitive), and now this. He should have known better than to just follow this rumor.

But Digital Foundry have been really credible before now. Eurogamer were the ones who leaked the info on Xbone and PS4.

With this one, however, they blew it. Developers have said over and over again that even their updates are wrong. If anything this entire saga has to be blamed on Digital Foundry; they know how much people trust them and they need to be more careful about the information they relay to their readers.

The editing issue the Gribble bring up is valid though, he should have known better. But maybe he knew it would bring a little more attention pissing off overly sensitive fanboys (they're never misinformed /s).

[dedicatedtogamers]

I think Sessler is just getting accustomed to the new "status quo" in gaming journalism (i.e. Xbox One bad, Ps4 good). He spent nearly a decade playing his games predominantly on Xbox 360 (something he openly admits) and he spent the two months from the Xbox One reveal up until the policy reversal taking a very "let's wait and see" attitude for Microsoft yet jumping the gun on any and every negative Sony rumor. This was the guy who said PS4 was "pretty much the same price as Xbox One due to the camera and PS+", making no effort to a) mention the cost of Xbox Live Gold and b) mention that PS+ and the camera in particular are optional, not mandatory.

Not that I agree with the "status quo". I don't think there should be a status quo in journalism. It was dumb when 360 got a free pass while PS3 was constantly berated, and it's going to be stupid when Xbox One gets mocked for dumb reasons while PS4 gets endlessly praised. But as I've said months ago, Xbox One is the new media whipping boy. Some journalists (Sessler) are simply taking a bit longer than others to get the memo.

(and for one final time, I'm not saying that attitude is right. I'm just pointing out that attitude exists).

[TheStorm]

See I love the hell out of Sessler and have since Gamespot TV. But I'm not going to lie, since February with the PS4 reveal it's been pretty clear he's being biased. He said he was not that impressed at the February event for the PS4. Then did the as you said "wait and see". Then when the X1 showed off it stuff at a terrible event, he defended it saying "It's not that bad people are over reacting!"

Then he would jump on any negative of the PS4 but glide over the X1 facts. Then he jumps on "fanboys" saying they are biased yadda yadda. Also ya when he said they were basically the same price, and yet he lambasted the hell out of the PS3 for all these flaws the X1 did.

I think it's pretty clear he's upset MS has fallen from the grace it was once at last generation, and just does not want to face facts. I thought he was above all this crap, but now he just seems to be digging himself into a deeper hole. I've tried calling him out on it as along time fan, but he just ignores it.

[RememberThe357]

Can't really argue that. I try to defend Sess more than most because I feel like his analytical way of talking about games changes whole conversations sometimes. His voice is needed.

But he cannot deny his bias (he does), not when presented with his own history. He wants people to give the Xbone a chance but he doesn't really care about the PS4. If your going to support one support the other, Xbone owners and PS4 owners alike are going to look to him for guidance on what they should buy. If he's more likely, by bias, to recommend the Xbone his viewers need to know that.

He needs to either face the reality of his bias or he's going to be torn apart by fanboys who feel his not giving their system a fair shake. That, or he can just not be bias. You know, like a professional.

[TheStorm]

Ya, also I found it funny during the worst of the X1's coming out party, he made a video just saying "Don't buy any next gen." It's almost like he was saying buy the X1 or none of them.

I've just been very disappointed with what he has been saying. He's almost trying to be "hipster" like and defend the console that is being more attacked by the media, but he was one of the ones attacking the hell out of Sony with the PS3 for the same things. I remember earlier last year he said something like if Sony does a high price again they are screwed. So they don't....and MS does and he now acts like it's not a big deal.

I mean he's such a smart guy, but his emotions are running deep with this, he clearly is letting his ego/bias get in the way of this one. He needs to wake up to that fact. I'm not saying he should bash one or the other, just stay objective then. But he always seems to backhand the PS4 when ever he can, or downplay it, and tell people to give the X1 a chance. And him making up lies like "The PS4 is pretty much the same price with the camera/Plus" When I was thinking the same thing dedicated was...was "Ummm you don't need the stupid camera and....you have to pay for Xbox Live too...and it still costs more." To me he could not be that daft, so I just see it is bias.

Come on Adam if you are reading this, knock it off, it's clear what you are doing.

[Crystallis]

I've noticed that as well with Sessler. I still think hes one of the best but hes clearly shows favor for MS and the xbox.

[dendenmooshi]

Like people have been saying Sessler just has some clear bias.

"The policy must've been worked on for a while; it's not something you can just flip the switch on."

yeah, okay.

I don't mind it that much though. The worst part are just the shills jumping on these topics to push more towards their favor. *Looks at the top of these comments*

[BABY-JEDI]

Don't be surprised if a lot more media presenters start adding their own version of events to the XBone & Ps4 fan wars for hits & sensationalism.

[Funky Town_TX]

What's all the talk about Indie games. Name one great game made by an Indie dev? I'm serious maybe I played one. It's also funny how 5 gigs is okay now instead of 7 gigs.

[CrisisOne]

Journey?

[mattdillahunty]

Journey, Braid, Limbo, Super Meat Boy, Flower, Trine 1&2, Amnesia, Super Stardust, Faster Than Light, The Binding of Isaac, Fez, Bastion, VVVVVV, Orcs Must Die....

hell, even Day Z and Minecraft started out indie.

there have been so many unique and phenomenal indie games this gen that it's hard to keep track of them all. indie developers have a lot more freedom (and thus more creativity) to make whatever they want, so there are a lot of gems out there.

and on top of all that, they're usually $5-20 in price.

[pedrof93]

Minecraft ?

[Fireseed]

Fez
CubeWorld
Dota
CounterStrike
Trials
Skulls of the Shogun
Joe Danger
Minecraft
Terraria
LIMBO
Zeno Clash
Don't Starve
Journey

Just to name a few...

[vickers500]

Bastion

[Funky Town_TX]

I played the LIMBO demo and it was cool. I still need to get that game. I like how all xbox live arcade games had a demo for the game. I hope xbox one and PS4 both do this.

edit:
I loved Trials. I purchased both games HD and Evolution.

[specialguest]

PixelJunk Monsters. Love that game and wishes there was a sequel.

[XboxFun]

You wanna play some great indie games go play Hotline Miami, Gun Monkeys, Night of the Rabbit!

And yes 5 gigs is ok! I mean why wouldn't 5 gigs be okay? It's not like 5 gigs is too small right?

[GribbleGrunger]

Something tells me your reply alert is going to very active.

[MysticStrummer]

"What's all the talk about Indie games. Name one great game made by an Indie dev? I'm serious maybe I played one. It's also funny how 5 gigs is okay now instead of 7 gigs."

Two indie games were legitimate Game of the Year candidates last year, and both won that award from at least a few places, so indies should get more attention next gen. I can't wait to see what devs can come up with on the new hardware.

Even 4GB of GDDR5 is better for games than 8GB DDR3+32MB ESRAM, so yeah 5GB is ok too.

[badkolo]

your delusional , gddr5 is not meant for gaming, i think you will all get a rude wake up call when you realise the ps4 is not going to produce better gfx then the x1

[MysticStrummer]

@badkolo - Google "GDDR5 vs DDR3 for gaming" and do some reading.

[JP1369]

Badkolo
I guess Nvidia and AMD are just as clueless, since their graphics cards all use GDDR5. Your level of ignorance is astonishing.

[MRMagoo123]

just ignore badkolo he is like foxgod and a few others ...completely clueless but like to pretend they know what they are talking about, but the ppl that do know what they are talking about can see how stupid they really are within seconds of reading there nonsensical comments.

For you badkolo, gddr ram is made for gaming it is made with high bandwidth to be able to push big textures as fast as possible.

[Sevir]

Lmaooo.... You think they Run Crysis 3 or Battlefield 4 off DDR3 on the PC... The Graphics cards running Battlefield 4 when it was unveiled was a AMD 7990 HD, which sport 6GB of GDDR5... Have a seat F***in you air head ----> _/ ... You haven't the slightest clue of which you speak..

[Reverent]

@badkolo, are you kidding me? GDDR5 is not for gaming? It's literally designed for gaming. God, there really needs to be an "ignorant" debubble option.

This may be cliche of me to say... But never go full retard.

[ALLWRONG]

@Funky Town_TX stop playing COD once in a while and look at the indie section.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

People whine way too much

[mrmarx]

seesler looks like the elves on skyrim lol..

[theWB27]

It's going to be another great generation of console gaming. Is that too much??

[Fergusonxplainsall]

Hell even 5GB GDDR ram is good but some devs have come out and said they can utilize 6GB of the ram if needed.

Sessler always makes things complicated more so it seems, and his voice is annoying..It always sounds like he's whining ever since extended play ended.

I liked Morgan Webb she acted dumb but was real smart. When she started on Tech TV..She was a fox. This man is nothing without Webb.(JK)

[XINTSUAI]

Funny that the bad news for PS4 is that would have the same amount of RAM that the XBone have for games lol.

Xbone is a complete shame.

[Docknoss]

MS says that the "xbone" will be able to use 90 precent of the 8gb that's about 7gb. So get real will ya

[XINTSUAI]

90% of processing power, not of the RAM.

Xbone has 3 Gb for Os and 5 to games.

Actually is a good configuration, nothing to worry about, the problem is the speed of this memory, too slow. It's like a PC without Video memory for GPU, Only Conventional shared RAM, like some Lowend PCs, that share some amount of the RAM for GPU.

[TheKingWilliamV]

Xbox 360 vs PS3 proved that 360 ports were better than PS3 ports. Now we come upon a new generation of gaming and we have two sides, Sony has more momentum than Alabama going into the 4th quarter with the lead. Xbox has a better experience online. Yes PSN gives you a lot more for your money but the experience isn't as polished as Xbox UI is. Now that this generation is upon us which system will be the lead for developers? As the Xbox Ceo stated its all about the games everything else doesn't matter.

[Treian]

you clearly haven't seen the new PS4 UI and PSN. Watch the video for it. It is as good as XBL, it seems.

[ZBlacktt]

People love drama. If there is no drama. Then lets make something up to create drama. We need ratings in this world. That means more drama! When it turns out to be no big deal. Quick! Fine something else hurry!

[tarbis]

I like Adam's shirt. XD
And I like his last statement. And many people really liked getting fooled by clowns.
Like my mom always say. "Crazy people fooling idiots."

[quaneylfc]

why the fuck are people arguing, grow the fuck up and stop putting me off gaming. i'd like to buy a next generation console (which one is not important,) but i will not let myself if i am at all associated with over dramatic lifeless pricks who care about games more than they do their own lives

[TheRealHeisenberg]

I second this.

[McScroggz]

I just started watching Breaking Bad not too long ago. Damn fine show, yo.

[thetruthx1]

I haven't seen a Ps4 game that shows 1% more power so until I see that the edge goes to Xbox One

[NeoTribe]

Take your fan goggles off. Kz and infamous look better than the x1 games.

[Funky Town_TX]

No sir.

[ALLWRONG]

Sorry NeoTribe, Xbone games outshine PS4 right now. Clean your glasses or just get some if you don't have any.

[thetruthx1]

I know you can't be talking about the same Killzone on the Ps4 that crysis looks better than or Infamous 1.5 with updated physics engine Lol Ryse and Dead Rising 3 smash those games

[classic19]

no no concern at all, if it's so what, its 4'5gb r 5gb of dggr5 ram, the os should use about 3gbs for the os. ppl are in the way with this talk.

[classic19]

lol my" spelling was off:].

[McScroggz]

Even though I think the numbers from DF are wrong, I can see why Sony would allocate more RAM to the OS and just as a buffer. I think Sony's thinking is that they know their RAM is generally better, as well as their system overall in most regards. As such, having around 2GB more RAM would only really be shown in exclusive games which is ultimately a drop in the bucket compare to third party games.

If the Xbox One has 5GB of RAM a third party publisher is unlikely to utilize 2 more GB of RAM for the PS4. It's basically wasted on 90% of games. So, I think Sony is trying to make the OS as sleek and fast as possible while also having enough RAM down the road to scale back the OS and offer more for games.

Certainly I prefer having 7GB for games as long as the OS system is responsive, and like I said I don't think the PS4 will be capped at 4.5 GB of RAM for games. Still I understand not only the logic behind the decision but also the fact that games are very unlikely to take advantage of 7GB for at least a year or two.

Still, 3GB seems like quite a lot (including flexible/buffer RAM) for an OS for a console. I kind of understand it for the Xbox One because it's 3 separate OSes, but I'm not a software engineer so what do I know?

[voodoogts]

Should Knack be considered next gen game? Lol

[Tatsuya]

I have said it before and I'll say it again.

PS4 has constant devs support and love. Enough said for it's future. I couldn't give a shit about what 'people' are saying about the PS4. You lots that are trolling, don't know shit about the PS4. But these developers are giving the PS4 the 100% support it deserves. Why 5GB is okay for the PS4 you asked? It's GDDR5, enough said.

[SonyPS4]

RAM Powah!

[NioRide]

Enjoy all the calculated errors.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Man, what a bunch of children here. Like two little kids arguing over who has the best toy?!?1 WTF?

The game market is freaking huge and both Sony and MS have tons of money and support and user base and a healthy amount that will own and enjoy both machines.

[BG11579]

There is something this Sessler said that made me scratch my head, Microsoft politics over the indie games are not a reversal of policy...
The way he justifies it, seems to give him reason, but when you think of the DRM policy, it seems incorrect.
Does anyone think that independent label would be able to self publish, or use the xbox one as a dev-kit if the DRM policy would be implemented? I think not...
This change of policy came with the 180 about DRM and 24h connection. I don't agree with Sessler when he says that the actual independent policy for indie games was part of their plans. It's just another forced change to gain some publishers and to have some good PR.

[BlindMango]

So does he know the difference between DDR5 and GDDR5? Because the PS4 doesn't have DDR5 like he's saying, haha

[H0RSE]

"System parity" is why many of your RAM and performance arguments, are moot. Other than exclusives, games on either system will be largely identical, likely with no substantial differences on either platform. Why? Because that's how the "game" is played.

You can't have one console version of a game looking and/or performing substantially better than another - it doesn't work that way, because....you guessed it, "system parity." - only PC's tend to be exempt from this rule. And since multiplats make up the majority of the games released, most of the games that will be available over the lifetime of the consoles will be overall neck and neck.

Those of you clamoring for any sort of "evidence" that a game looks better on your favored system than the other, just reeks of desperation and insecurity. Perhaps if you could direct to me the source or data that confirms that the "more powerful" hardware of the PS4, will also increase the level of fun or interest players have with games, that might actually be an interesting read - but of course, that doesn't exist, because prettier games don't necessarily = better/more fun games.

Oh, and comparing exclusives to one another in attempt to "prove" which system delivers better visuals and performance, is also kinda pointless, since you are comparing 2 completely different games, often with different developers, different publishers, using different engines and having a different art direction. If you were comparing the same game on both systems and were able to point out worthy differences, that would be a much stronger arguments, but you may find that difficult to do because again....system parity. I'm not saying games will be identical between the 2 systems, but that the differences are likely not going to amount to anything even worth bragging about.

This isn't PC, where system specs actually matter, since that is the platform where users are responsible for the amount of performance they get from their systems. Hell, you guys don't even get advanced video options, like enabling anti-aliasing or choosing your resolution, and it's not like you're gonna be OC'ing your CPU and GPU's either. This massive boner some of you have over being on the "winning team," as far as system specs go, is smh material.

Some of you are more concerned with winning the "superior hardware" arguments with numbers, data sheets, and even screenshots (lol) than actually waiting and seeing if that extra power is actually being put to good use and worth bragging about, but I guess in your eyes, a "wins a win..."

The bottom line is that both systems will be much more powerful that their predecessors and will be producing great visuals in their games, so stop acting like PS4 is the "future of gaming" and Xbox One is ColecoVision...

[Krosis]

Wasted breath on this site. It's like two idiots arguing about who's Kia Sorento goes faster....except these chumps live with their "roomates" (parents) so I rephrase: two idiots arguing about who's PARENT'S Kia Sorento goes faster lol

[evilhasitsway]

its funny that he said they had to plan this for awhile and its not like light switch cause they said they same shit when ms changed the drm policy.

[MonChiChi]

Horrible journalism. I usually like Sessler but to take a rumor and run with it, I thought he was better than this.

[Krosis]

Yeah, had it been a rumor in FAVOR of the PS4 he'd have been in the clear...such a shame. The double standard on this site is truly amusing.

[Dakriz]

Guys gimme a favor since you hate DDR3 so much open your PCs and get rid of it then come back clean knowing your DDR5 is so much better. Sony chose that ram for a reason MS chose there's for a reason to grow up and live with it.

[Dakriz]

GDDR5 not DDR5 my bad.

[Thomper]

Will you all just please listen to yourselves?

You do realise that you are getting all angry and overexcited about games right? I love games as much as the next man,but this is truly pathetic.

Choose your platform and enjoy. Stop trying to prove your dick is bigger than his. Grow up.

[walkincarpet]

that's the sony fan boys for you... not to say xbox doesn't have its own... but I'm starting to think PS3 must give off radio active rays that diminish intelligence... Demon Souls was great... doh... I gave myself away... I too am a victim.

[Thomper]

Whilst I don't want to partake in the flame/fan-wars, there is definitely a disproportionate level of "stupid" going on with some of the Sony fan-clan

Xbox has it's share too, but seems to have more reasonable discussions going on, on their threads.

[LogicStomper]

N4G has turned a hobby into a war. No longer are games about having fun, it's more about how your preferred one is better than the other.

[ThisIsSolidSnake]

Pros and Cons of PS4 and Xbox One.

PRO-PS4

CON-Xbox One

[Seafort]

LOL all this "fighting" over a stick of RAM. Who gives a fuck?

When you're playing CoD do you think, "Oh I wonder if my CoD is using more RAM than the other consoles?"

Get a grip people.

If the games work that's all that matters, right?

Both sides of the fanboys are bad as each other. You realise you're arguing over a piece of circuit board and companies that couldn't give 2 shits about you?

[Thomper]

Beautifully put

[XisThatKid]

RAM is the new "Bits"

[Dakriz]

Oh man went to my Subway and order me there new GDDR5 sub with a slice of avocato and there new 8GB sauce.. now I know what it is to be full of crap lmao j/k j/k I love the fact the system use it, I'm just not in love with it that's all.