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Do You Want Your PS4 to Have a Better Operating System, or Better Games?

Bad Gamers is back, again. This time the increasingly unstable Seb and Dan discuss the PS4′s RAM and how much is thought to be put aside for the OS and why. - PSLS

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Need4Game3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

PhyreEngine 4.0 which help Game making Faster & Better thus making Better Games.

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Cupid_Viper_33921d ago

@catchmeonthat.

Lol, buddy you're drunk....Go home!

fr0sty3921d ago

That depends. I know gaming was held back a bit by PS3's OS not supporting cross game chat. Having to use text messages to set up games was a real pain in the ass.

kreate3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

'Sorry guys, MS is investing 1 bil in exclusives this gen. Game over.'

This gen is still ps3/x360.
And ps3 won.
And yes game is over cuz Microsoft gave up.

Next gen is ps4/xone. And the game didn't start yet.

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NewMonday3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

this time Sony are using a full feldged OS based on Unix and shares origins with MAC OS, it has a deep history of development, it's no proprietary XMB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

FreeBSD is also lighter on the the system than Windows.

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PSVita3921d ago

@catchmeonthat: get your "facts" straight please

http://m.digitaltrends.com/...

Army_of_Darkness3921d ago

What was that fr0sty?? Gaming was held back because of the ps3's os?!?! Lmao!! Wow bro! That's just retarded talk right there considering cross game chat was never a game changer in the previous gens, nor even this gen?! Yeah, the last of us and god of war 3, uncharted 2 and killzone 2 were all held back because of ps3's os.... this is clearly why ms killed sony this gen right?? :-\

T23920d ago

Lol at the desperation here .. Frosty " using text messages to set up games was a pain" ... Wow u never heard of game invites ? Apparently you never learned to actually use a ps3 ... Did you also know u can turn it on by pushing the big button on your controller?

Elimin83920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

Better Operating Games?

madpuppy3920d ago

"Well right now Xbox has a better operating system AND better games. So what does that say about MS? "

MS makes poorly coded, bug riddled software, Their policy of "ship it broken and we will fix it with updates when we get the time" is a well known company policy. MS sells low quality commodity operating systems and software.

This Bill Gates Hero worship just go's a little too far around here. remember, Bill G. is a business genius, not a software one.

gaffyh3920d ago

@Catchmeonthat - How many alternative accounts do you need to create??? Also, how can you talk about exclusives, when neither console is out, and neither of them have confirmed which games are coming out when?

Firstly, the facts are that Sony has consitently proven that they support their systems with exclusives, right from PS1, PS2, and PS3. PS4 will be no exception, there will continue to be loads of exclusives for the PlayStation. If MS can keep up with them, then hats off to them, but I seriously doubt they can put out as much games as Sony can.

Secondly, $1 Billion means nothing when you consider that this is for the ENTIRE generation. That's right, the entire generation, and it probably include marketing costs, exclusive DLC from third parties. It won't last long.

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pedrof933921d ago

Does PSLS knows that the rumour was false ?

ThatCanadianGuy5143921d ago

Page clicks man, it's all about the page clicks.Integrity, honesty, investigative journalism? None of that applies to PSLS

pedrof933921d ago

I'm sorry but I think that PSLS is a very informative website for the PS world.

Or you are maybe refering to whole video-game journalism in general ?

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Heartnet3921d ago

Sony have shown time and time againt here not software developers and the OS for ps3 and vita have been shockingly bad...

the ps3 one is so simple in its design yet so clunky to get around... There hardware manufactures and designers at the heart and thats what theyll be forever...

MS is the exact other way around which is why the 360 even with ads was a lot better fluent experience to use... i didnt feel like killing myself when i wanted to check my achievements as i had to stop playing for 10 mins for to load up...

pivotplease3921d ago

Nah the XMB blew the 360 dashboard out of the water in terms of cohesiveness and aesthetics. So much so that MS had to update their interface into more of an XMB style interface (just with a ridiculous amount of ads and a marketplace for every single medium. Why not merge them?). Cannot speak for the Vita but it reminds me vaguely of iOS with bubbles. As for X1 and PS4, only time will tell, but both look like evolutions of the XMB (with inspiration from social media apps). I expect both to control a little better (or differently?) thanks to kinecton X1 and move/the touchpad on PS4.

T23920d ago

Ten minutes .... Riiight ... With all the ads on xbl u would be lucky to find what you were looking for in ten min.

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Megaton3920d ago

Both is what they have. These aren't mutually exclusive things. Beginning to understand why PSLS is banned from NeoGAF.

bigfish3920d ago

Sack the operating system, give me the games!!! Imagine a metroid prime style fps with ps4 graphics!!! ..... makes me faint just at the thought,,,some things are just too good to ever come true,.
:(

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HammadTheBeast3921d ago

Well, this is Killzone Shadowfall using less than 5 GB.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

http://images.gamersyde.com...

http://blogs-images.forbes....

So.... I don't know. The best of both worlds.

PSVita3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

So you reply to my comment with "eh" and then write the exact same thing....

trancefreak3921d ago

Dang that first pic blew me away thanks for the link.

pedrof933921d ago

Well the others are amazing too.

trancefreak3921d ago

Yeah they are this will be my first PS4 title played when released..

PablitoPaperito3921d ago

Graphix r nice n all but the enviroment is very verry empty in the first screenshot.

Very few polygons being pushed.

High-res textures and cool lighting fx dont make a game impressive.

M-M3921d ago

"Graphix r nice n all but the enviroment is very verry empty in the first screenshot."

Until the player turns around.

Kietz3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Those could easily pass for a 2142 mod of BF3. Not even at its finest, truthfully.
To me, it is not the graphical powerhouse people make it out to be.

Funantic13921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Killzone Shadowfall still looks current gen. And the AI still sucks. You can be right behind your enemy and he still doesn't notice. Compare your images to Crysis 3.

http://www.giantbomb.com/cr...

LordNikon3921d ago

It actually looks better than Crysis 3, well... from those screenshots in that link anyway.

And how do you know the AI is bad? Have you played the game yet?

Sharingan_no_Kakashi3921d ago

Im sorry, no offense but that was a fail. Im sure C3 looks good on pc max settings but those screens certainly dont show it.

In fact Id be so bold as to say that Crysis doesnt do the cryengine justice.

Funantic13921d ago

@Seathe I did see the gameplay. The AI sucks. The enemy won't notice you unless you're in the direct line of fire or shooting at them. You could walk behind the enemy, lay down, and take a nap. I want next gen AI not artificial stupidity.

LordNikon3921d ago

@Funantic1

Could you show me in a link? You made it sounds like a stealth situation, which would justify the AI not taking note of you.

Anyway, what you saw wasn't a representitive of the final product. Only then will i give fair judgements... unlike your overreactions...

edgeofsins3921d ago

The AI is realistic. They have to see, hear, or hear from other AI that you are behind them. You must think Call of Duty AI is good because they are so static they always know where the player is.

That is how it works in real life. You don't just magically know someone is behind you and in the heat of battle not everyone will realize someone is flanking them on there own.

KillZone has some of the best AI this gen. Artificial Intelligence is not about being smart and knowing where the player is. It is about emulating a humans senses and reactions, artificially, in the virtual world and this does that great. They act like real players do. Of course if you don't play on higher settings their reaction time and reactions themselves aren't going to be as smart.

cannon88003920d ago

crysis 3 was held back by current gen consoles and to tell you the truth; it doesn't even look that good. And neither do the characters. Oh and by the way, say hi to The Dark Sorcerer. http://images.gamersyde.com...

http://images.gamersyde.com...

This tech demo was still using the engine from beyond two souls and it ran between 30 to 90 frames per second because it wasn't optimized. This stuff is totally doable on next gen consoles, especially the ps4. And before you say that this comparison is not fair because the dark sorcerer is a "small" tech demo and crysis 3 is a game with huge open levels; the xbox 36o and ps3 were able to run it. Both extremely outdated.

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Heartnet3921d ago

Ah those still screens -_-

srsly though i wudnt trust gurelia games just look what they did with kz2... looked amazing at e3 or w.e then at release it was half of what they shown in terms of graphical fidelity

Sharingan_no_Kakashi3921d ago

False. KZ2 wasnt everything they were aiming for but it exceeded the target render in some ways. People should understand what a target renders purpose is.

LordNikon3921d ago

So... you think GG would do that again? Really? You're really reaching there. Anything to make the competetion look bad right?

joeorc3920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

@Heartnet

"srsly though i wudnt trust gurelia games just look what they did with kz2... looked amazing at e3 or w.e then at release it was half of what they shown in terms of graphical fidelity"

im my opinion you are talking out your @ss.

An in my opinion, They were the one of the only development studios aside from , ND and just a few other's to reach d@mn near their target render.

when you state that

"release it was half of what they shown in terms of graphical fidelity"

It maybe your opinion, but it is one i do not even think is a very realistic opinion @ that.

pivotplease3921d ago

Shadowfall looks amazing. I kind of wish those guys at guerilla weren't always under so much stress. First delivering upon E3 2005 and now delivering a system seller in time for launch. Then again... KZ2 was a bit better than 3 so maybe they work better under pressure?

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GribbleGrunger3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Why compromise on either when it's a hypothetical question? Weird.

I want both to be better.

bub163921d ago

seeing as its classed as a games console. GAMES!!!!!

Heartnet3921d ago

Not alright in this generation... why would you get a games console that only plays games when there is a decent enough other console that plays great games and has other multi-media features?

they have to have both... if 1 has they all have to.. and in the recession people want things to have everything as its cheaper that way

Hicken3920d ago

So the PS4 doesn't play music or movies, or surf the web? It doesn't do Blu Ray, DVD, or CDs? It ONLY plays games, right? Not any of that stuff I've listed that Sony's confirmed it does.

Sure glad you cleared that up.

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot11h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke195h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke191h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf2h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor4h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave3h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor1h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke191h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai3h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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