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Xbox One to offer free 'unlimited hard drive space' via the Cloud

Some more positive news has come out of the first ever PAX Australia this past weekend. During it, some key features have been revealed regarding the Xbox One. Aside from the usual "3X's the computing power" offered by the Cloud service speech, the people at Microsoft have now stated that the cloud essentially gives you an "unlimited sized" hard drive...

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TrevorPhillips3925d ago

That's great news to the people that are getting the Xbox One

Snookies123925d ago

Yeah, I gotta hand it to 'em. That's a wonderful feature. :]

JokesOnYou3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

According to Microsoft's public relation's, the Xbox One will offer this service for all Xbox Live members, negating the necessity of an Xbox Live Gold account to utilize the service as it stands currently:

“Xbox Live offers Xbox One unlimited storage space in the cloud for all Xbox Live members to store numerous types of Xbox Live content, including your profile, games, Achievements and entertainment. This content is stored and saved in the cloud so you can automatically access it anywhere, anytime, no matter where you are."

-Keep it coming micro, keep it coming.

thechosenone3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Yeah really nice... and after being the biggest d**ks ever with all the DRM/24hr check/no used games, unlimited storage is a really, nice, feature...

JackBNimble3925d ago

Ya, you guys better get excited by this because xbots are going to need all the HDD space they can get since they will never be able to up grade their HDD ever.

Dir_en_grey3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

*face palm at people who easily get tricked into MS's simple marketing spin

This is no different then what's available on PS3 and 360 now.
Profile and achievements data are so simply small it will take up barely any storage space; "storing your games so you can download anywhere" is just being able to download from their existing store after a simple purchase history check.

Seriously guys? You are gonna get tricked into thinking some amazing new thing happened just because they used some words like "unlimited" and "cloud" to an existing and very simplistic service that is already standard everywhere???

Stop and THINK FIRST and stop getting tricked by every little marketing scheme already.

Avernus3925d ago

I don't usually comment on fanboy bait articles, but...

@ Dir_en_grey

You do have a point, a very valid one too. People will disagree, but it's true what you say.

Not hating on xbox cuz i'm getting a PS4, but MS is kinda fooling people with this. Anywho, doesn't matter to me personally.

FamilyGuy3925d ago

Lots of (Professor Fransworth voice) "good news!" coming from the X1 camp recently. I just don't get why they wouldn't have mentioned these things sooner like at their one of their 2 recent press conferences.

Still, good news is good news and given that they're saying this now it's pretty obvious that they'll have even better news to announce at GameCon.

Still buying a PS4 but this sort of stuff is how competition improves systems. Sony will try to do something to match or compete with these recent X1 features.

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dedicatedtogamers3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Just to clarify, how is this different than what is currently offered by the 360? Honest question.

After reading the article again, what is different than how things currently are? Your saves, profile, Achievements, and digital media are already "available anywhere, anytime, no matter where you are" because - correct me if I'm wrong - you can simply sign in to any 360 with your profile and start downloading.

Feel free to click "Disagree" all you want but before you start spewing at me, it's a legit question.

awesomeperson3925d ago

@dedicatedtogamers

I want to know exactly that as well.

The quote is ability to store "your profile, games, Achievements and entertainment".

Profile and achievements is a given - that already happens for all members on whatever system. That info is stored on a server, and always will be.

By games and entertainment, I assume they just mean the licenses to download them? Or the ability to stream movies/music if you buy from a MS related service. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding this.
Once again, that's a given.

I'm assuming this will also include game saves, in which case the unlimited storage would be the only nice part of this announcement.

If MS stated you can actually upload "unlimited" amounts of your own content - this would be something special.

But before that happens, I wouldn't get my hopes up that this is anything more than what would be expected of the system.

nix3925d ago

hope that means you can upload all the movies, music and photos you have on your hard drive, windows phones and pc/tabs etc.

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nukeitall3925d ago

This is actually better than Sony, because on Playstation, you have to be PS+ member to enjoy cloud saves and it is limited to 1GB.

On the Xbox One it is now unlimited for all members, including non-gold XBOX LIVE members!

MS is on a roll with good news this past week.

Murad3925d ago

Totally agree with you. Even though I'm not buying anything Microsoft related I do find that Microsoft actually spending cash on their fans to be shockingly pleasant. However, I personally cannot see what I would do with all this space.

gaffyh3925d ago

Free cloud saves is the only thing new here, but that is a good feature. PS should have this feature, but it needs to be instant, like on iOS devices, where you can continue a game on a different device by logging in. PS+ save uploads are a bit annoying at the moment, although as the PS4 has a low power chip, this auto-upload might work better than on PS3.

CerebralAssassin3925d ago

@Dir above me

Who's getting tricked with their wording? This isnt anything new but it is just being confirmed it will be there for xbone. It was limited one the 360 and you need pn+ to have it on ps3. Which it still had a limit. How about you stop being that guy on the street corner on a soap box preaching how we need to atone for our sins and let it be.

n4rc3925d ago

It isnt a big deal.. They didn't hold some press conference to announce it, it was mentioned to a reporter at an event..

It is the same as currently.. Only now without the 512mb cap..

Its not huge news.. But how the Sony faithful try to spin it as bad news is utterly pathetic.

andrewsqual3925d ago

@Dir_en_grey Lol that is exactly what I was thinking. I mean there is no limit on my Download list on my PS3 so technically it is all there on the Cloud. On 360 you can't freely copy over mp3 or video files to the console so it more than likely won't store any of that stuff.
@JokesOnYou Saved games is the only thing that they should have mentioned that makes any sense.

hazardman3925d ago

@Der en grey and Avernus

Well seeing as you only get 512mb cloud space on xbox 360 id say unlimited space on xbox one cloud is a big deal.

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ChiaPet3925d ago

@Der_En_Grey

I think you are the one who needs to think first. If you actually read the quote on the link to the article the rep says that "games" can be saved on the cloud not just "game data". Also the current storage cap for xbox 360 is 512mb which is no where near enough to save a game. If you disagree you disagree with the facts.

AngryTypingGuy3925d ago

I'm still getting PS4 first, but XB1 is looking better and better! Isn't competition great?! Both systems are going to kick ass!

TheHybrid3925d ago

@JackBNimble, MS has already confirmed that you can use and PC external HD for all of the same purposes as the included HD. This is a win for consumers since PC hard drives are WAY Cheaper and way bigger than console hard drives

levian3925d ago

Wow, this is an amazing feature, good on them for coming up with a good use for it!

Although, I have my reservations about how well it will work. If you have an entire game installed to your HDD it runs faster than off the disk. But if your game is installed to your "cloud HDD", it will depend on your bandwidth.

Can the fastest internet service match the speeds of an actual HDD, or even a bluray drive?

xxLuckyStrike3925d ago

Uhh huh Right..Sony fanboys dont care an yet they "continue" 24hr Xbox troll_watch with eyes of fire

fr0sty3925d ago

So... we already had cloud game saves. Now we can store our games online. Aren't they already stored online? What's the difference from uploading your game "to the cloud" vs. just re-downloading it from the store? If you've already bought the game, it should work the same either way. I know PSN has a download list you can look at to see everything you've ever downloaded from the store, so I'm not seeing the advantage of using cloud storage for game storage at this point.

If it lets you just upload any file you want, that's cool.

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chuckyj13925d ago

@JackBNimble

are you dumb or just retarded? Can't upgrade the HDD? All you have to do is connect ANY 3.0 USB external HDD up and your done. No size limit restrictions. All I have to do is buy a WD mypassport 2TB HDD and 2.5TB will be all I need.

abzdine3925d ago

another way to lure and bring in all the sheep they can :)
PS4 is still and will always be the way to go for gamers.

trouble_bubble3925d ago (Edited 3924d ago )

@nukeitall
Comparing current PS3 cloud storage to future XOne cloud storage?? Nice spin attempt. Why not compare -current- PS3 to -current- 360? Proclaiming 'betters' when since Sony hasn't even announced their PS4 cloud storage parameters yet seems disingenuous.

As of today, 360 cloud storage is 512MB, requires XBL Gold, and many saves remain blocked by DRM and cannot be copied regardless. Try copying your Forza Horizon main save. You can't. PS Plus on the other hand offers more space --1GB-- and circumvents ALL DRM. Every save can be copied.

More appropriate woulda been to say XOne cloud storage > X360 cloud storage and leave the PS3 out of it.

Kryptix3924d ago

This feature can only work out if you can stream the content you own from your cloud. Otherwise it's kinda useless since saves only take some megabytes of space and gamer profiles are easily downloaded with one sign in. But you know what's funny, if you can stream games from your cloud and people utilize that, doesn't that go back to an always-online console? The option is there, you don't need to use it but Microsoft's answer to limiting the Xbox One's HDD making it unremovable is to go online and use the cloud. That's cool, but on the PS4 you can add any size of storage and you don't need to be online to access it. This news is great for people that have a reliable internet connection but people without it or don't have a good connection are still left out with limited space.

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georgeenoob3924d ago

Wow you guys are ignorant. Re-read the title of this article, does Xbox 360's cloud storage offer unlimited hard drive space? No. That's what's different. In fact, it can only use 512MB max. Huge improvement.

The_Con-Sept3923d ago (Edited 3923d ago )

Yay another non gaming related feature. It's a storage device that works with Microsoft content!

Edit: on PS3 currently we are able to export game data, game cores, game saves, game related media, and even profile data on any available external medium such as hard drives, soft drives(clouds), solid state drives, and flash drives.

Instead Microsoft ties in your account to a single cloud. Why is it bad to have information stored on just one device?

What happened when the WTC building 1 and 2 were hit? Millions of people suddenly had lost wages. No pay checks for almost 3 months. That was an extreme case and I hate to bring it up but seriously..... Think about it for a second. If you had millions of any 1 item would you keep them all in one place or several?

I choose to keep my treasures in several places. If one gets hit then I have the rest to keep.

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dedicatedtogamers3925d ago

"Free", not "free with Xbox Live Gold"

It's good that Microsoft clarified this.

AngelicIceDiamond3925d ago

Yeah its under the gold of subscription of course.

This is crazy good news.

JokesOnYou3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

AngelicIceDiamond, nah unless I missed something its free to ALL xbox live members, that's pretty sweet news for X1 owners. 500GB is a lot most will never fill but for any of the hardcore out there that have a lot of content its pretty awesome to know you never need to pay for getting another HDD. My question is why don't they save good news like this for Gamescon?...or do they have something even better up their sleeves?

JackBNimble3925d ago

JOY
I hope 500gb is enough for you , because you have no options to up grade.
just saying,

It ain't enough for me this gen I can tell you that.

creatchee3925d ago

@JackBNimble

External hard drives are supported and they don't have to be proprietary or anything.

We've been over this before.

forcefullpower3925d ago

Actually The external drive can only be used for your own content not content downloaded from live or other Microsoft services. Get your facts right first before you say anything.

Heartnet3925d ago

@forceful power

if its anything like Usb sticks and 360 / ps3 u have an option to make it into a usb stick just for 360 stuff ergo increasing the size of ur harddrrive.. i assume this is also works with external usb harddrives

n4rc3925d ago

And actually.. You can save whatever data you want on a external HDD..

All my borderlands 2 data is on a flash drive.. I must be a witch to have made that happen.. Lol

Its cute when Sony fans try to pretend they know Xbox policies

Kryptix3924d ago

http://mashable.com/2013/01...

It is true, you can use USB drives to save data on it but you all fail to realize is that USB drives are way more expensive than hard drives. A 512 gig USB drive will run you $1,750 (check the link) but a 1 TB hard drive can run you less than $200. And if you disagree then you're clearly in denial because I just linked proof that not being able to switch out the HDD is a problem unless you're rich. But I rather buy a high end PC built for gaming with that money. ;)

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Cuzzo633925d ago

Looks like the change in leadership was good after all. Now see how competition changes the situation. Just think if Sony was not in the picture. Wouldnt wanna see that scenario. Good shit for Micro and the Xbox fans. Good times ahead for both sides. Now it looks like to have both is the best outcome.

torchic3925d ago

the effects of JLG on Xbox One will not be felt until maybe a year into her tenure.

this is still the work of Mattrick, Mehdi and all other people of the original team. it was obviously part of the plan from the beginning, since Xbox One is "supercharged" by the cloud.

deanobi3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

SONY FANBOYS ARE MAD, Stick to your new Xbox 360 aka the PS4 XD

Stick to your Sony Pauperstation 4

Cuzzo633925d ago

@deanogee
Sony fan, not fanboy.... Mad? Why would I be?

Anyway. 2 mannequins in a department store are arguing with each other.( Weird huh.) Well the crazy thing about that is not that they are talking dummies, but both are calling each other dummies. Go figure?

MariaHelFutura3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

That's a cool feature, definitely something the 'cloud' can realistically pull off and keeps people from having to buy overpriced HDD's.

kennyg37393925d ago

@Mariahelfutura
Thats two days in a roll you said something positive about the Xbox I knew you had it in you.

btw, I'm kidding

DragonKnight3925d ago

Always remember the quotations people. Whenever dealing with Microsoft, free becomes...

http://memecrunch.com/meme/...

You just know there will be a catch somewhere.

PimpDaddy3925d ago

Give it a rest already. You're better than that...

ALLWRONG3925d ago

Been too much good news for MS lately. Sony guys and even admins in massive damage control mode.

DragonKnight3925d ago

@PimpDaddy: I'm just saying, when's the last time there WASN'T a catch? Come on, think about it for a second now. Unlimited Free Space. Unlimited. You're telling me there isn't a huge alarm going off in the back of your mind somewhere saying "Ok, what's going on here... this sounds good but I'm not that naive?"

@ALLWRONG: If you think that flip flopping is good news, all the power to you, but everything Microsoft has said recently should have been their stance from the beginning. And that's especially true if you believe that Sony has followed the 360's launch business model.

Reverent3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

I understand why one should be weary of Microsoft's actions, but ever since they removed DRM, they've been being nothing but positive with their decisions. Can't we just accept that Microsoft may just be turning a new leaf?

And this is coming from someone who by far prefers Sony.

DragonKnight3925d ago

@Reverent: Sure, it'd be the reasonable thing to do to believe that MS is turning over a new leaf. I mean lately they've FINALLY decided to listen to what everyone was yelling at them (minus the mandatory Kinect of course) about so good on them and on those who were waiting for that.

But we've seen that MS will flip flop on anything now, so unconditional optimism carries with it the great risk of incredible disappointment. That's all I'm saying.

creatchee3925d ago

@Reverent

"I understand why one should be weary of Microsoft's actions, but ever since they removed DRM, they've been being nothing but positive with their decisions. Can't we just accept that Microsoft may just be turning a new leaf?"

Most people can. Hardcore Sony fanboys can't. It goes against their nature.

pompombrum3925d ago

Lol 28 disagrees.. it's amazing how fast the agree/disagree machines come out to play on positive Microsoft articles.

DragonKnight is right though.. whenever any company throws around words like "free unlimited" people should be skeptical as there is usually a catch.

CrossingEden3925d ago

"Microsoft has said recently should have been their stance from the beginning"
going by your logic every gamer ever should cancel their pre-order for every console because Sony does not have a perfect track record in the slightest

DragonKnight3925d ago

@CrossingEden: Your comment literally made absolutely no sense. And I mean at all. People across all spectrums will look at your comment and be eternally perplexed at how you could so thoroughly and completely miss the point.

This isn't about which company has a "perfect track record." This is about common sense. There is a legitimate case to be made that Sony has taken what they feel worked for the 360 at its launch, and applied it to the PS4 with their own style. Given that Microsoft got the 360 launch right (we can argue about later years some other time) for the most part, it should stand to reason that Microsoft shouldn't have put themselves in the position they are in right now of having to reverse virtually every single policy they've come up with with the Xbox One and be seen in such a terrible PR light.

The same could have been said about Sony with the PS2 vs. the PS3 except Sony didn't try to take user rights away, or force a hardware feature that would have bricked the console, etc..

None of the Big 3 have a perfect track record, for the record.

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vega2753925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@ dragonknight

What your saying makes no sense and also makes you a hypocrite. If your saying sony took what MS did last gen with the 360's launch and applied it to the launch of the ps4. The ps3 had a rought start as the X1 is now. So you trust everything sony tells you because they changed their ways after their arrogant attitutes and mistakes with the ps3. Yet you want to us to never forgive MS for trying something that didnt go well with gamers and fixed it based on negative feedback. Yeah ok

I for one have no problem with a company trying to repair the damage it did to itself and I'm not going to hate one company and give the other a free pass as you and many sonyfans have. Like you said its not about a perfect track record. But what a company has learned and will change to please their fans.

Your ptoblem is no matter what MS does you hate and thinks something is behind it yet sony does something and it was sent from god. Sony has done a lot to change their image and MS is doing the same and I for one like what they have been doing as of late. Which has insured my decision on getting the X1.

trafalger3925d ago

"That's all I'm saying."

all your really saying is you dont like m$ and love sony and anything positive about the xbone you want to squash it right away. i bet you have no interest in the system and just want to make it look as bad as possible because you want the ps4 to kill it.

way way way too much stealth trolling on n4g

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sonarus3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

is this free hdd space or free save file space because saved files are usually in the kb's range and if thats the case i am not impressed. It only makes mention of it being used as a file saving system. However if they are talking about being able to save actual games on this cloud then thats actually pretty great news as the 500GB hdd space doesnt seem like a lot

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Bruce_Wayne3925d ago

I'm all for crapping on Microsoft due to their mistakes, but it seems that they've been doing *some* things right lately. They've increased my chances of buying an Xbone from 0% to 15%, but I'm still rooting for PS4 (I have my reasons.) Things are getting serious now. Can't wait to see how Sony counter-attacks and how Microsoft responds to Sony's counter-attack. Let the games begin!

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Kayant3925d ago

Like Dir_en_grey and awesomepeople have pointed out that's how it's going to work. The have not said they will allow you to upload stuff to the cloud. That would be insane and stupid because of piracy and the fact they already have a cloud storage service (Skydrive) that charges for storage it could cannibalize some of the sales from that. But still this is a nice feature that is not behind a paywall like usual.

Gamer19823925d ago

Its great but its only confirmed its "unlimited" for save games so far. I mean looking at my PS3 save and how much I amassed over the 8 years of playing I hit about 200mb.. So unlimited doesn't really stand out that much.. Doesn't say unlimited storage for video uploading etc as they don't host them themselves.

SaturdayNightBeaver3925d ago

Haha well said, and what exactly they gonna put into those drives? What games? Im really curious. :)

kewlkat0073925d ago

The benefits..of the Xbox One are becoming realized...

Not just the Xbox One but the whole XBL Infrastructure....which was already good.

Microsoft has invested heavily in technologies and other services which they are blending in the XboxOne console's future/infrastructure.

Just proves the Xbox One console will be be around for a while...

Well you can probably say anyone can come up with a cloud architecture of their own at some point but will it be as good, efficient, and cheap? There is a huge cost associated with server infrastructures and data warehousing. If MS is footing the bill, then I'm down with that.

GraveLord3925d ago

This doesn't make any sense. For a game to be played, it needs to be on your hard drive. So no, you don't have "unlimited hard drive space via the cloud". LMFAO!

stiggs3925d ago

@GraveLord

"This doesn't make any sense. For a game to be played, it needs to be on your hard drive. So no, you don't have "unlimited hard drive space via the cloud".

THAT made you LMFAO? You're laughing at your own...I cant' even call it...joke? It's time to get back on your meds, pal.

Ashunderfire863925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

# SoldtoChrist

Amen!

greenlantern28143925d ago

Wonder how ms is going to handle the backlash from all the companies they currently charge to use their cloud, for storage.
Seriously go to Microsoft's web site and search the topic companies pay them now they are giving gamers unlimited space, which is cool for gamers but that's potentially a lot of space if Xbox1 sells well and people choose to use the feature it could amount to a very large amount of data storage given to the xbl community that ms is trying to sell to other corporations.

RM-TatoTiburon3925d ago

the funny thing is all the fanboys were excited when sony confirmed that we can play all our games in diferent consoles, a feature available in ps3/xbox360, but they are trying to bash this with the same"this is old"

solidt123925d ago

Really great feature! I wonder if Sony will do the same now?

weap0nx3925d ago

This is a great idea, Microsoft keep the firing burning.

3-4-53925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

What happens when cloud stops working one day or when it goes bankrupt.

Seriously, lets say they go bankrupt and go out of business. Then what ? There goes all your games ?

What about when the XB2 is released in 2020, what happens to all the games ? Can we transfer them ?

I'm glad they are doing it but I don't think any of these companies have a fool proof plan or even a good back up plan in case something fails.

All it takes is losing Millions of players games and data via Hard Drives and the trust for them is over.

I'm hoping everything works out for the best though.

scott1823925d ago

That's a fantastic feature, that is something everyone needs! especially since everything's going digital.

Eddie201013924d ago (Edited 3924d ago )

Still have to download your games (several gigs and several hours to download) from the cloud in order play them so the game will still take up space on your physical hard drive.

It's Just like buying a game from PSN or Xbox Live and being able to erase the from your hard drive and if later you want to play it you can re download it from the store because you own it. The games aren't actually stored in a space with your name on it, it's just that your account will say you own it and are allowed to re download it from a single space on Microsofts's servers.

Unlimited game saves and achievements and account information take up very little space to begin with so saying you have unlimited space for those things isn't a huge thing really. PS4 will have the same thing as far as the things mentioned above go.

Why do people fall all over themselves every time Microsoft say cloud this or cloud that.

Cloud oh Cloud, where cherubs are singing my name.

snipab8t3924d ago

Why would PS fanboys down vote this, it amazes me how butthurt they can be.

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tuglu_pati3925d ago

this just keep getting better and better.

majiebeast3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

90% of the Xbox owners will use the cloud to store their porn stash, thats what i would do;).

majiebeast3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

The porn cloud of Microsoft, i would say its good unless its a NSA trick.

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Robochobo3925d ago

I don't think NSA has any reason to see what game titles you own...

xtremexx3925d ago

Or do they? They could probably label anyone who play call of duty as future terrorists, and anyone who plays condemned as future serial killers.

sobotz3925d ago

^you're getting paranoids

DragonKnight3925d ago

@Robochobo: The NSA doesn't need a reason to know anything about you. If they want to look into what you have, they will and do.

Petro3925d ago

Your joke fails because you cant upload any content in their cloud storage, it's for saves and possibly for media from their store, and even that is just a trick as the trailers, movies etc. will for sure be streamed from their main server anyway. :P

Actually now that I think of this, where does one need unlimited "cloud storage" where you cant upload your own stuff?

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ABeastNamedTariq3925d ago

That's nice. That'd be sure to ease up my anxiety about losing a save file. I have an almost 300 hour (the longest I've ever played a game) save file for Skyrim that I constantly worry about. As if my system's gonna get eaten by wolves or my save will go to digital hell never to return. Backups are great.

StoneyYoshi3925d ago

Yeah cause trustung a internet service to store your files is such a Relief off your shoulders. if the internet is down at your house, then what?

creatchee3925d ago

"Yeah cause trustung a internet service to store your files is such a Relief off your shoulders. if the internet is down at your house, then what?"

You wait until it comes back up. Easy peasy.

FamilyGuy3925d ago

Lol, f outta here dude, 2000 hours is nothing compared to all the years worth I was my main ex. All those game hours are probably part of why she's my ex now though lol!

Let's compare c**k sizes next, bet I win there too XD

ABeastNamedTariq3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@dontbhatin

Don't...don't make me think about those possibilities! I don't like change! Now you make me wanna backup my backups!

@FamilyGuy

Lmao, pissing contests are funny

FamilyGuy3925d ago

My (now useless) 1800+ hour save file of White Knight Chronicles 2 laughs at your Skyrim data. During its relevancy it was something to be worried over.

Irrelevant now because of the online aspect of wkc2 being shut down :'(

StoneyYoshi3925d ago

I have a 2000+ hour save file in my girls cooter That laughs at your WNC2 And Skyrim! I WIN!!!!

kewlkat0073925d ago

So you played 75 straight days of WKC2? Don't you have a job and Gf/wife/kids?

mwjw6963925d ago

You can make a copy of that sucker to the cloud on xbox 360, even the PS3 I believe.

Or just take any USB drive and copy it over to that. Now you have 3 copys with no chance of having them all go down.

PS: I just had my HD crash on my 360 a month ago. Lost 300+ hour skyrim, 200+ Fallout 3, 200+ Fallout NV, 200+ Mass Effect 1-3, and 2 50+ Borderlands 2 charicters. Its been rough trying to level back up in borderlands, Skyrim is next. ALWAYS BACKUP TO THE CLOUD!

ABeastNamedTariq3925d ago

You make me cry man, you make me cry. I could never be sane after losing that much progress. I would trade in my console I swear (I'd regret it later, but I'd do it haha). I actually do everything you describe, and now I feel compelled to buy another USB drive and do some complicated stuff to duplicate my save file to a Swiss game account lol.

Insomnia_843925d ago

It doesn't back up automatically like on PSN? Xbox Live? Really???? The almighty Xbox Live?? Huh!

mwjw6963924d ago

@Insomnia_84

Thank you troll for your useless comment about a feature you don't understand. Back under your bridge now.

Yes it does auto backup once you enable it. I had it turned off because i thought I would never use it. Man was I wrong.

Bigpappy3925d ago

This is a really good feature for those who have friends and Family members who also have X1. You can go visit, log into their X1 and just continue from where you left off. Anywhere you go and there is an X1, you can continue where you left off.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos2h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac1h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits55m ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi50m ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek1h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies28m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows23m ago(Edited 22m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

QUOTE
"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip1h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide1h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies32m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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