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World of Warcraft loses 600K subscribers worldwide in four months

World of Warcraft's steadily declining subscriber base has dropped by 600,000 worldwide in four months, leaving the popular fantasy MMO at 7.7 million players.

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porkChop3920d ago

This is good. With people moving on from WoW to newer, better MMOs it'll give developers more incentive to innovate and be creative rather than trying to emulate WoW.

die_fiend3920d ago

Yeah but MMOs are obviously ridiculously expensive. It's not like any developers can even afford to make them, let alone go off on a tangent and see if people bite. I'm hoping they're putting their efforts into Destiny

pompombrum3920d ago

There isn't really better MMOs though.. with the exception of a rare few, most are just poor WoW (or EQ) clones.

Neixus3920d ago

I still want to see how other mmo's can implement pvp, without copying wow :)
Because the Arenas in wow, despite umbalanced sometimes, is -alot- of fun. You can't deny that.

Other MMO's pvp system, as far as i know, only got battlegrounds in it, and world pvp. But 3v3 and 2v2 is so much better than that. You also makes good friends that way, played with some people 2 years ago, they've quit, but i still have daily contact with them on facebook / skype

Linwelin3920d ago

Lineage 2 had better PVP than WoW in my opnion, played them both loved L2 more because of the PVP, ok it was a grind fest, but i spent most of my time pvping than grinding.

3-4-53920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

Yea somebody need to create WoW 2014 though.

Not exactly WoW, but WoW offered a lot that other MMO's don't, the main thing being:

It works and is almost bug free. You can play the game and know that for the next 2-3 years, everything is going to work fine.

Yea you have to pay $15 a month, but you know that your getting your money's worth.

All these Free to play MMO's just don't work and I don't feel like putting up with BS to play a game.

I actually like the Art Style in WoW. You can see what everything is. Bricks look like bricks, stone like stone, trees like trees and so on. It's also very colorful which is a GOOD thing.

That being said, there are so many ideas beyond what is in WoW that a new MMO could benefit from.

We've learned a lot since 2004.

I stopped played in 2007 though so maybe it's not the same game.

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joel_c173920d ago

Probably cause WoW sold out and became pretty crap after WotLK

LoaMcLoa3920d ago

Yupp, they made The game waaay too easy
Theres no real feeling for accomplishment anymore

awi59513920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

Dude the raiding in wrath was a total joke. My guild got the kingslayer title easy after the LK wing was unlocked. We were a server first guild but still it was way easier than raids past and even today throne of thunder was more of a challenge. The only good raid in wrath was uldar before the nerfs. I had the best gear in uldar only to have it replaced by 5 man gear in the fall that made me quit wow for about year.

Logak3920d ago

I will miss WoW, all my friends I have made over the years.. But, too be honest, I have gotten really sick of WoW and all of the god forsaken grinding.
The next expansion better be amazing to make me play wow a lot again.

ramtah3920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

Star wars the old republic was my first mmo and my last. and my last game i will ever buy from EA and Bioware.

Einhert3920d ago (Edited 3920d ago )

Don't judge MMOs based on that terrible game

IF they were going to do a proper star wars MMO, they should have done an updated more polished star wars galaxies.

Now that was an MMO

coolbeans3920d ago

"Don't judge MMOs based on that terrible game"

I thought that was a great title. :/

Though still willing to hold onto the 'holy trinity' layout and other WoW tropes firmly, I loved the art style, the SP components placed into an MMO, etc. etc.

Would like to see how it is with Hutt Cartel expansion now that it's been brought up.

aliengmr3920d ago

@Einhert

Spot on.

If you consider the budget that SWG had what they were able to do with it. It was by no mean perfect, but it had one of the best space sims out there.

pompombrum3920d ago

SWTOR was more like a single player game with MMO features than a fully fledged MMO.

Einhert3920d ago

Even as a single player it was tragic

The voice acting was very plain and average

The storylines were very mind numbing particularly the sith inquisitors storyline.

To think they had the gall to say this would fill in for KOTR

pompombrum3920d ago

Sith Inquisitor was the worst storyline I played. Jedi Knight, Sith Warrior, Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent.. all of those storylines were quality and really captured the feel they were going for.

The game is hardly a masterpiece but I imagine it left Star Wars fans satisfied with what it set out to do.

thezeldadoth3920d ago

^ no most star wars fans i know didn't like it at all. It didn't feel like star wars. the story, the art style, the way they handled the worlds, nothing felt like star wars in that game.

Ngai3920d ago

There's this new game called A Realm Reborn. It's coming out next month. It will be awesome.

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Microsoft has ‘let Blizzard be Blizzard’ following its acquisition, studio says

Microsoft has 'let Blizzard be Blizzard' following the acquisition of the veteran developer according to World of Warcraft's executive producer.

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Kaii2d ago

Diablo 4 storefront being a cash grabbing shitshow does unironically attest to that, kudos.

kythlyn22h ago

Microsoft needs to be guiding Blizzard to be what it USED to be, not allowing it to continue to be the greedy bastardization of itself that it has become.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Okay i will be interested if they become old Blizzard but might as well be dead.

Rynxie1d 11h ago

They will never be old blizzard. Most of all the OG's left from developers to those on the top (even some decision making folks left).

Vits2d ago

Shame most of the people that made Blizzard what they were, have already left a while ago.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

I was about to say this. How can they be blizzard when they're no longer blizzard from yesteryear?

Hofstaderman1d 16h ago

Just like Rare and Bioware...

blacktiger1d 16h ago

Rare was the thing I lost heart

victorMaje1d 13h ago

Exactly. Blizzard hasn’t been Blizzard for a long time.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Knightofelemia1d 22h ago

Blizzard is not the same Blizzard like it use to be.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago

Were you expecting Microsoft to hire everyone that had left Blizzard long before they purchased the company...

Microsoft has let the Blizzard company they purchased continue to be the Blizzard company they purchased.

thesoftware7301d 10h ago

Wow, PassNextquestion,

You fully understand what that saying means, unlike some people on here who just have to say negative garbage talk.

When someone says, "Just let *blank* be *blank*, "they are just letting them operate how they operate.

It's pretty much how Sony "let Bungie be Bungie."

This comment section is full of outright haters, but you have to "let N4G be N4G"

GamerRN1d 7h ago

This site leans so heavily in one direction...

BISHOP-BRASIL23h ago

I don't think people commenting are necessarily blaming MS for anything here, this is just collective longing for what Blizzard/Vivendi was before Activision's meddling.

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World of Warcraft Opens Beta Sign-Ups for 'The War Within'

Blizzard Entertainment has announced the opening of beta registrations for “World of Warcraft: The War Within,” inviting players to explore new subterranean worlds beneath Azeroth.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil5d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19924d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop4d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom3d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor4d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog4d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit4d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H95d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts4d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H94d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop4d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum4d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai5d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder5d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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