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Contrast Dev: "Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC"

"It's often been the case that the PlayStation 4, and the Xbox One for that matter, won't be as powerful as the most high-end PCs. Of course, given the architecture and how easy it is to developer for the PS4 compared to the PS3, it would make multi-platform development all the easier for the next generation."

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MariaHelFutura3926d ago

Great news is what the Ps4 does. Seriously, everything you hear about the console is positive.

Bathyj3926d ago

A far cry from the ps3s launch. Its been an incredible turnaround for peoples perception of Sony. They just seems to be ticking every box.

hellvaguy3926d ago

Well besides mandatory paid online. But its really not too terribly expensive.

malokevi3926d ago

What it does, it does great. However, there are a few things it doesn't do, which adds credence to the competition.

andibandit3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Youre all reading way to much into this....

First of all the article should read:

Indie Game "Contrast" will look almost the same on PS4 and High end PC.

Second of all we can begin to question why that is. Is it because:

1. PS4 is as powerful as a high end PC?.
Answer = LOL

2. Is it because it's a indie game, that could hardly stress a high end PC?.
Answer = Perhaps

3. Is it because Sam Abbot is the PR manager at Compulsion games and dosn't want to downplay either version.
Answer = Bingo

Now dont get me wrong i have my PS4 preordered, but im not gonna loose all sense of criticism because of it.

JunioRS1013926d ago

@ hellvaguy

Well, I'd actually rather pay for online multiplayer this time around so that they can actually raise some money to work on making their service faster/more dependable etc.

It seems like a very reasonable policy. After all, I've been paying $60/year for XBL for the last 6 years, so it'll be nice to cancel that and pick up PS+, which is clearly a better value, and in my opinion might even become the better service if Sony invests the raised PS+ funds into it.

Thehyph3926d ago

@andibandit got it.

@JunioRS101 got it, too.

PS4 is not going to be more powerful than a good PC, although the hardware consistency allows for developers to get more out of a PS4 than if you had a PC with the exact same specs. A high or top end PC will always have more raw power to put out though.

I'm perfectly fine with paying to play online. I expected, and wanted, it to happen. Anything to make the service better. I'm not saying it was bad to begin with, but it definitely needed improvement. This benefits the consumer in another way in that Sony is now more accountable for anything that could happen in terms of outages and whatnot.

AuToFiRE3926d ago

I highly doubt its as powerful as a "High End PC." The specs shown at E3 would deliver 1.6 teraFLOPS while my 2 generation old graphics card ALONE still pumps out over 6 teraFLOPS

meetajhu3925d ago

It's a indie platformer and Ps4 image quality will be poor compared to PC.

RedHawkX3925d ago

yep thats why i dont understand why some people are getting an xbox one instead. it boggles my mind and xbox one is the one with a bazillion bad things about it.

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Corpser3926d ago

Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?

Smoovekid3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Why are you bringing the Xbox One into this?

dc13926d ago

It would be better news.

Competition is always a good thing. The XBox Two is very likely to be much more performance orientated because of the associated criticisms at the One's architecture and lack of targeted high end graphic rendering (not my words, but MS's).

The 360 came out like gang busters because of previous lessons learned on the OXBox as well as building/improving on what made the PS2 dominant.

The PS3 services improved because MS had there stuff together with the 360. Sony couldn't just match them. They had to surpass expectations (PSPlus) to present a compelling argument (as there was none before) and to change the narrative at the time.

The PS4 (general launch experience and general perception) improved because Sony learned some hard lessons.

The XBox Two (general launch experience and general perception) will improve as well because MS will learn from prior mistakes as well.

MysticStrummer3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

"Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?"

It wouldn't be any kind of news, since parity is the name of the game with console multiplats.

Corpser3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

@smoovekid

Because people here would have the opposite reaction. Ps4 fanboys want developers to take advantage of ps4 when compare to xb1, but don't want to heAr pc version looks better than ps4

MasterCornholio3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Your hoping for him to say that or something?

This is just my opinion but developers should maximize the hardware on each platform. If console A is capable of rendering much better graphics than console B then i dont expect the two versions of the game to be the same. But if a super powerful console is limited by a vastly inferior one then the only ones who suffer are those that made the investment in the more powerful system which is unfair to me.

NeoTribe3926d ago

Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on xbox one and wii u"?

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Lior3926d ago

A low end AMD CPU and a low end GPU do not compare in any way to a high end CPU like a i7 4770k and a GPU like a gtx 770 or 780

wishingW3L3926d ago

and again you can't compare PC and consoles like that due to the fact that PC developers can't program to the metal, so most of that power of that high-end GPU will remain untouched.

HammadTheBeast3926d ago

Planetside 2 Max settings PS4.

Gtfo.

badz1493926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

@lior

don't take this the wrong way but you're being a dick! Steam statistics has shown that majority of pc gamers on Steam are on middle range setup! don't just come in here listing the highest end of cards available out there and pretend that all pc gamers have the same setup!

back on topic, what this Contrast dev is saying is, his game doesn't need thousands of dollars of a pc to be optimized. that is all!

TIER1xWOLFPACKx3926d ago

You seem butthurt, have a snickers it will make you feel better. Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about.

Joe9133926d ago

Who cares are your feelings hurt because he compared the next gen consoles to a high end pc. You must be a dev too or and has had first-hand experience with both of the next gen consoles right that’s how you know more about the next gen then this dev right lol are you trying to be a dick or are you trying to get ppl to game on pc instead of a console because I don't think it will work. Like I said before if that was such a huge factor I think more ppl would be gaming on computers and not consoles right. I really want to know why pc gamers come to these articles and try to sway ppl to game on pc or to try and trash console gaming IMO it is stupid I don’t get on pc website much do console gamers get on pc websites and bitch about how console gaming is better or is it only pc gamers that do that lol pathetic.

MasterCornholio3926d ago

Try playing Planetside 2 at max settings on a computer with a weak GPU and a Weak CPU and see what happens.

NeoTribe3926d ago

You must feel threatened coming out with a whiny comment like that. Go play minecraft.

Eldyraen3926d ago

Specs matter but games>specs. I game on PC as primary platform ATM but the article is right as nearly all PS4 games look as good or better than at least 75% of PC games of today. When it releases that might change though as new engines scale better (both up and down) so PC will see even better looking games as well.

To be honest I would be happy if many PC games looked as good as Killzone 3 or Infamous SS. We have some that look better but not all devs can afford or attempt that level of quality. When they do yes its usually better but that's the minority to be honest.

andibandit3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

@TIER1xWOLFPACKx

"Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about."

Sam Abbot is not a developer, he is the Public Relations Manager at Compulsion Games.....and the last thing he is gonna go out and say as PR manager is: our game on X totally sucks compared to our game on Y

Metfanant3925d ago

And here comes Lior, another butt hurt PC fanboy that either A. Can't read or B. Simply can't comprehend what they are reading...

Once again NOBODY has said that the PS4 is more powerful than high end gaming rigs...yet the PC nut bags come running in here like their hair is on fire screaming about $600+ gpu's that cost more than an entire PS4 and how much more powerful they are than thr "low end cpu" and "low end GPU" found in the PS4...

Yet they all fail to realize that no by is arguing against them...and that there is NO WAY they could build a $400 complete PC that can match the specs/performance of a PS4

kikizoo3925d ago

Theory =/= real world

Even ps3 after 10 years can make games on par with best pc games, so for ps4, it would be ZERO problem.

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ATi_Elite3926d ago

Contrast Dev: “Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC”

So they made the game for the PS4 then ported to the PC. FACT.

I don't see a lot of bells and whistles in Contrast anyway. Right Now Arma 3 is the god of graphics and the upcoming StarCitizen will eclipse Arma 3.

Contrast is about as Graphical as America's McGee's Alice. (which was a fun game)

Metfanant3925d ago

There is no FACT that this is a PS4->PC port...what IS fact however is thay this game is not a technical tour de force and should run very similarly on a PC and a PS4...

Pain3926d ago

Compare a Console to a PC and in come the PC trolls.. and moron Xbots .. this generation is going to be full of idiots.. more so then the last.. fun times ahead all..

SignifiedSix913926d ago

Don't forget the annoying sony zealots!

Autodidactdystopia3926d ago

you mean compare one person and another person and GOD forbid both of them want to participate in the discussion?

what?

I also do not consider myself an idiot, I feel that you just lack the knowhow to build a pc yourself, otherwise you would not be calling us idiots.

think outside of the box you just put yourself in.

Pain3925d ago

@ Auto llack of knowhow to build a PC? u talking to me lol? my rig is 2k+ i know how to build a rig..

Like i said this gen is going to be fun and full of idiots.. both sides..

GDDR6_20143926d ago

Great news when a developer doesn't optimize their game to a more powerful platform?

Metfanant3925d ago

Has nothing to do with optimization...this is not a technical monster of a game...its a smaller indie title...its never going to push hardcore PC hardware...and is not intended to do so...

gamernova3926d ago

The ps4 can play at resolutions beyond 1080p? PC gamers can :P

Smoovekid3926d ago

Hold on I'll go find someone who cares.

Major_Glitch3926d ago

Can PC gamers play while lounging on a couch? No? Moving on. The pc trolls just don't get it. Most people don't want to spend hundreds of dollars every few months constantly upgrading a rig, just so we can play our games hunched over a desk. I'll pay the one time fee to purchase my console of choice so that I can play games on me 50" hdtv while relaxing on me couch.

aquamala3926d ago

@Major_Glitch

of course we can, my gaming PC is right next to my consoles connected to the same 55" TV

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Autodidactdystopia3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

@major.

yes. my daughters pc is connected to a 120 inch screen and it is entirely controlled by the xbox 360 controller.
It has all of their movies, all of their music, all of their games (snes,genesis,master syetem, n64,dreamcast,psx,ps2, gamecube, wii, and of course bout 30 PC games ranging from mw3 to crisis 2. its got a blu ray drive wifi N and a wireless 360 receiver all in a small compact package. about the size of a 360 original.

the only games it doesn't push 1080p with is crisis 1 and 2

the card they have installed is the 6770 low profile edition

all of this was built for 600 bucks in hardware.

all of the software can be launched closed and controlled no matter what console is playing via the 360 controller.

so in a long ass answer.. Yes and my kids love it.

oh and this pc has never been upgraded and is still trouncing the ps3 and 360 in terms of horsepower over a year after I bought it and built it.

kikizoo3925d ago

Yep, better resolution...but less great games, and ugliar, like each generations.

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JunioRS1013926d ago

"Titanfall this, Titanfall that"

I'll take The Order: 1886, please.

ATi_Elite3918d ago

LOL you dam well know your butthurt cause PS4 is NOT getting Titanfall.

JsonHenry3926d ago

This will probably be the case for a short while like it was with the X360/PS3.

Typically the only differences were things like higher rez textures, advanced depth of field, farther LoS on objects, higher world density, stereoscopic 3D, and higher resolutions than 1080p and higher FPS than the standard 30-60fps.

So no, there won't be hardly any differences. /sarcasm

Enjoy the PS4 guys. Its going to be a monster of a console. But at the end of the day it is a console. PLEASE stop comparing it to other products like the PC. The comparison isn't fair and in the end it only makes you sound like an idiot.

ChrisW3926d ago

@Decrypt,

No one around here likes hearing such nonsense about PC gaming being better than console, regardless of how truthful or factual your arguments are.

So, plain and simple... You're a troll. But only because you're against the lowbrows of the gaming world.

otherZinc3926d ago

I'm sick if all this dam* talk...make a game that's 1080P native, running at 60fps at launch then...Or, stfu!

Talkin all that s**t!

RumbleFish3925d ago

The Infected gets Agree(144) | Disagree(20)and is bubbled down for trolling. This site's system is a mess.

Also the fanboys on this site are a shame.

ChrisW3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

I agree... But, you've been a member here since 2008 and you're still complaining about stuff like this?

RumbleFish3925d ago

You're right. I am supposed to give up idealism.

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TurboGamer3926d ago

Translation: The PC version will be a crappy ass port.

Ducky3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

It's an indie platformer that isn't trying to be on the bleeding edge of visuals.

The fact that both versions look nearly identical is to be expected.
... and calling it a crappy port is a bit unfair when the dev is considering Steam Workshop support. They seem to care about each platform they're on.

decrypt3926d ago

@TurboGamer

If history is anything to go by, its Playstation that gets the crappiest version of all platforms. PC being the best version most of the time at least ;-)

Check: Skyrim, BF3, Metro, Mafia 2, Dragon age for reference.

ravinash3926d ago

Might have been the case with the PS3.
But the PS4 with the PC like design should mean that devs don't have any excuse to do any lesser job on the playstation than any other platform.

HammadTheBeast3926d ago

Shouldn't you be petitioning for Red Dead?

Also Last of Us, never "better" on PC. Lulz

decrypt3926d ago

@hammad

Thats like asking why isnt there Dota 2 on PS3?

sync903926d ago

Fanboy we don't wanna hear it. you sound butthurt, sticking up for your beloved pc. What a nerd!

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Lior3926d ago

Ok everyone just listen they do not optimise the games nvidia and AMD release drivers which get the most out of the games

NeoTribe3926d ago

Even if pc does get a port, its because nobody, even developers give a damn about pc. Pc is not supported like consoles are because there niche. Quit nerding out on articles not even relevant to your interests.

aquamala3926d ago

PC is niche? here's EA's Q1 FY2014 financial report, revenue by platform

PC 298 million
Xbox360 256 million
PS3 238 million

chaldo3926d ago

@turbogamer

Tell me more about your non-existent PC please. You really know how the games are on PC eh?

TurboGamer3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Coolermaster GX550 PSU
intel Core i5 3450 ivy-bridge
MSI nVidia GTX460 768MB (waiting for next years GTX860 Maxwell)
Gigabyte B75M-D3H
16GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 corsair vengeance RAM
2TB WD Green for OS and games.
3TB WD Green for everything else.

Does that answer your question?

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mafiahajeri3926d ago

Can't wait to play the elder scrolls online beta exclusively on the PS4 as well the amazing planetside 2!

porter4703926d ago

Get a gaming pc then you don't have to wait

mafiahajeri3926d ago

Hmm I do have to wait if I want to play elder scrolls and I already play planetside on the PC is specifically said on the PS4 not PC it's a different experience.

Tatsuya 3925d ago

I'm a PC gamer as well, but what you just did is a disgrace. He was talking about the PS4. I have an awesome gaming rig too but do I talk shit about it? Nope. PS4 is my lead gaming platform come next gen. Why? because I want it to be, it is the epitome of a perfect gaming machine. So take your shit out and STFU.

LoveOfTheGame3926d ago

Except the beta isn't exclusive to PS4, so your dumb.

mafiahajeri3926d ago

I meant console exclusive.

LoveOfTheGame3925d ago

It's also not console exclusive, so your dumb.

nirwanda3926d ago

Looks like a really good game but it's not really pushing any graphical boundaries.

iconic563926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

exactly, this article would mean something totally different if it were CD Projekt Red saying the PS4 version will be 99% of the ultra settings on a PC.

Edit: Even though, they probably will look pretty close.

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot9h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

mandf1h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave1h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

isarai2h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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