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Driveclub dev “aiming for 60 frames per second” but “happy with 30″

Speaking exclusively to OPM UK, Driveclub‘s art director Alex Perkins describes the push and pull between the devs at Evolution Studios to keep the game’s frame rate at 60 while also throwing in as many next-gen graphical effects as possible. 1080p 60 isn’t a given, he explains.

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Chaostar3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

I'd say most of the people who would opt to buy the game at launch will be looking for 60fps. It's important (apparently) and it's doubly important when the game everyone is going to compare this to is running at 60, although without those cool dynamic time/weather features.

Note to Col Rodgers: Don't take game mechanic tips from your artists :)

iamnsuperman3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

"I'd say most of the people who would opt to buy the game at launch"

I thought it was going free to play with PSN+ but you can buy extra cars and tracks if you want. So does it really matter that much. I mean it isn't like we are really paying for it. This game looks okay but its going to be free with the PSN+ so I can't really complain I wasted my money. It would be my own fault if I spend extra money on it

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk...

Chaostar3925d ago

Yeah you're right guess I should have said people who are interested in the game or something.

You just know there's going to be numerous comparison articles though and it would definitely make a good bullet point.

Colzer013925d ago

Even Killer Instinct which goes by the same model business, is 1080p 60fps, F2P it's no an excuse to make a less good game.

iamnsuperman3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@Colzer01

True about KI but you are also only limited to one free character with KI so you have to pay something to get more than one character. Both have disadvantages so I wouldn't hold KI as the poster boy

Thegamer413925d ago

@Colzer01
Shows how much you know about how this all works. If a 2D fighting game is not 60FPS then something is wrong, I mean what is there to process other than the 2 fighters and a static background?

dantesparda3924d ago

30fps prettier graphics and effects over 60fps and inferior graphics and inferior/less effects anyday. 30 rock solid frames (especially with motion blur) are fine.

Half you idiots just think because 60 is double 30 that it must be better. But you go 60fps on any games, then you will be cutting your quality down in almost half. Imagine if this gens games all ran at 60fps, then they would even look as good as they do now. (and they aint looking that good)

Thomper3924d ago

@thegamer41

No, it actually shows how little you know about how things work..

KI is not a 2D game, and it does not have static backgrounds.

I think the popular term for KI's style is 2.5D. It is 2d in Style, but the models rendered in 3d, as are the sets.

Thegamer413923d ago

@Thomper

Fact is, you are still fighting in 2D, when you move up or down its just a technique to make these games feel 3D hence the 2.5D term.
And yes the characters are modeled in 3D, I did not say they are not, but when fighting you are still in the 2D perspective.

I agree that the background is not literally static (minor movements), but you still cannot interact with it.

As for my original post, I was pointing out that games in this genre are not hard to make in 60fps. Name me one fighting game that runs below 60fps on any console.

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Minato-Namikaze3925d ago

More important than anything i want the game to be good, I really dont get this obessession with 60 fps. I've played games running no more than 18-20 fps and loved it and played games 60fps and hated it. In an ideal world we could have evverything, but if push comes to shove i'd rather have an immersive world than 60fps.

ILive3925d ago

I really don't understand either. I can understand people who normally game on pc and that is what they are used to. But for most console gamers, it really doesnt matter. Grand theft auto will run in 30fps . Will that stop people from enjoying it? Metal gear solid 2 ran in 60fps. Would it have deterred your enjoyment if it ran at anything less?

glopez3924d ago

People are complaining about the 30fps because the ps4 is suppose to be a super computer with 8 gb ram. With all that supposed power 60fps shouldnt be hard at all. Drive club and sony really have no excuse. They have all the power they need and then some according to the ng4 community. Its not like its a multi plat, its an exclusive for crying out loud!

wishingW3L3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

the game looks uglier than GT6 and they can't even reach 60 frames? WTF!?

DragonKnight3925d ago

I don't know where to begin with this comment.

Heisenburger3925d ago

Come on man...

Games aren't as easy to make as that sandwich you made earlier.

They are aiming for sixty frames.

You have to know the pressure of not only being a launch title for a new console, but HAVING to be a launch title.

They have a deadline that is seriously looming.

I'm sure they are just covering their bases in case they are unable to reach their goal.

And since when is it an insult to "look worse" than Gran Turismo?

Kanzes3925d ago

It seems both Forza5 and Driveclub got its own flaw to be a launch title racing-game for each console.

I agree that both developers are under the pressure to being a launch title. While Forza 5 forced us to download part of the game, DC is at risk to get a half fps lower than their standard. But I'm sure they'll get what they aiming for.

elhebbo163925d ago

are you kidding me? GT6 might have its physics for it but you must be fucking blind to say it looks better than Driveclub.

ILive3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

I was thinking the same thing. I think driveclub looks better.

glenn19793925d ago

that's why im going with xbox1 and forza 5

WeAreLegion3925d ago

You're going with Xbox One and Forza 5 because you like Forza. I'm going with a PlayStation 4 and Driveclub because I like video games.

LaChance3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Yeah videogames like Knack and stuff and this 30fps racer that hardly looks next gen.

I'll be going with the 60fps/1080p Forza 5 plus Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct and Ryse for instance.

To each his own I guess. At least you dont get to pay for online unlike us Xbox folks.

edit: oh wait !

Caffo013925d ago

@LaChance

come to tell me that when ps4 will be superior in both multiplatforms and exclusives, no longer than a year from now.

Kennytaur3925d ago

If you have to use Ryse as an example for a promising game, your argument is flawed. Where's the gameplay?

Second Son and The Order,now that's exclusives.

ziggurcat3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@ lachance:

i guess i can just watch netflix (a service i already pay a monthly fee for) without paying for XBL gold...

edit: oh wait !

SuperLupe3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Wrong post.

Cuzzo633925d ago

Man you fantards are ridiculous. My question is, wats wrong with knack. Its called diversity. It may not be for you but someone else might love it. DriveClub is a F2P game. Not even up to GT stanfards. I like some of the games for Xb1... Well only Titanfall. Im a KI junkie also. But when its all said and done..... Its still the inferior system... Dead Rising, ummmm I will pass on that lol. To each his own I guess

christocolus3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@wearelegion

Because he likes forza? He is not a gamer?Your statement is sooo off point. I mean both forza and Drive club are games so in other words you guys are both buying your consoles of choice cos you like games. lachance you,v got a crazy sense of humor lol but be careful the guys here carry pitch forks and torches they seem to constantly be on the hunt for the big green ogre called xbox one.lmao

Thomper3924d ago

That was obnoxious!

Turn 10 are masters at their art and Forza is widely regarded as the best racing series ever conceived.

You truly have to be a fanboy not to admit that it looks fantastic, and will likely play even better.

People who buy xbox1 like videogames too. It's arguable that they like them more than you do, as they are prepared to pay more for it.

(Bring on the disagrees)

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sync903924d ago

No reason for you to be here then, is there?

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7295d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8595d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197294d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218394d ago (Edited 94d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim94d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno94d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218394d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger94d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai94d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC94d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21776d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1196d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011195d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011195d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1194d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.