BF4 Fans Make Fun of COD: Ghosts With Fish AI Dog Tag

Enjoy this piece of cultural detritus, which pokes fun at Call of Duty: Ghosts in Battlefield 4.

[3lectricpancake]

Hahaha, right in the COD.

[ape007]

CoD Liver Oil is great for your health xD

[irepbtown]

It's a great source for Vitamins and Omega 3.

COD is fascinating!

[SirKilla]

Cod fans make fun of cod... All I hear when playing cod is people complaining about pore hit detection.

[TD_hastetheday]

Stick it to'em!

[princejb134]

Thir smart FISSHHH!!!

[GameCents]

Why are CoD gamers hated by the gaming community? I'm a BF fan myself but see no reason to mock the other side.

[TD_hastetheday]

Because it's the most overrated game series ever.

[ape007]

nope because it sells wayyyy more than their soul mate bf's

[Soupaman66]

having something overrated isn't their fault but the consumer's. We cant admit that the effect of making fun of call of duty is making it more popular. Also nobody likes whoever is selling the most or is on top(financially, not quality). We look for something big and make it look pitiful to make ourselves feel better than them. I don't have any hate towards any developers because although many people might not like their game, they still got the chance to make a successful product for people worldwide. Its going to be a long time until we say "good for you. Although this game isn't to my liking, I'm glad others are entertained." I know I'm going to get disagreed on but I just want to tell my unbiased opinion/truth.

[SirKilla]

Because for a few things: it's well design and fun, When the hit detection works its rather a fun game.
Since hit detection is just about the worst ever, fun games are rare.
Throw in bad spawning, lame knife kills, akimbo, drag scope and quick scope.. And client side server that rewards bad connections
Who I'm I kidding! Their games suck!

[admiralvic]

Because CoD is popular and you're more likely to run into an "awful" person than a smaller game that is less popular (even smaller like Uncharted or Halo). A good example would be the number of squeaky kids spouting out hateful nonsense on military shooters, which you just don't see as often on other games.

[Kryptix]

If you're a Battlefield fan then you know it deserves to be in the spotlight more than Call of Duty. I understand buying Modern Warfare 1, maybe MW 2 and World at War, but after that it's all just copy and paste games with no change to the engine. And the moving fish A.I. is another great example of where the focus is. Adding nothing special to the game again and trying to make it sound like a game changer.

[GameCents]

So you're saying the hate is warranted because a game they enjoy takes up more spotlight than a game that I enjoy? That sounds rather juvenile.

I've poured over 600 hours into BFBC2 online and probably 30 mins into MW1 and in my opinion BC2 is vastly superior. I do not however harbour any ill feelings towards MW1 simply because it is more popular.

[Kryptix]

@GameCents
Did you even read the rest of my comment or a Call of Duty: Ghosts commercial came on and you got distracted? lol

Edit: It's because people tend to buy the same game over and over and not notice that it's just the same exact game with new guns and killstreaks while Battlefield always adds something new to the whole formula. And guess which one is popular? The one with the least effort put in, and that's why it deserves to be bagged. Wouldn't you rather have DICE get all the support Treyarch/Infinity Ward are getting? More support would mean a better experience and DICE has proved that they always give it 110%.

[GameCents]

But why direct the hate at the gamers as well? Being bitter at CoD gamers serves very little purpose.
As for your quip about CoD Ghosts, you are welcome to take a peek at my Gamertag, I have only ever played MW1 and while I enjoyed the offline split screen MP, I didn't buy another one after that.

CoD may deserve to be bagged on but actually hating on a person for enjoying the game is retarded.
I say open season on the developers for saying stupid things like AI fish move away but unless a CoD fan mocks me or my game then I choose to let them be.

But hey...it's all about choices right? I can choose not to be juvenile and hate strangers for loving a game I don't enjoy much and you can choose the other option.

[Kryptix]

@GameCents
You keep missing the point. lol The people that buy a half-assed game are the same people that make it more popular than it should be. What would you say if Saint's Row 4 was more popular than GTA 5? Rockstar put so much effort into GTA 5 but Saint's Row 4 somehow becomes more popular because of the gimmick of beating up people with dildos? They deserve to be bagged because they buy into gimmicks and the smaller changes. When you got Battlefield which is a much larger game, that's where those gamers should be going to. Aren't you going to call me stupid if I buy The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct and rate it a 10? When that money should of went into something better like Telltale's The Walking Dead which is a much superior game. That should be a clear example.

[GamingTruth]

your lying comment will be passed around for generations and the internet will agree with you thats where your 9 agrees come from

[Mounce]

You might as well ask "Why do people feel differences? Why can't people just be indifferent and feel nothing like a zombie?"

:L

[GameCents]

I reject that premise, it is nonsensical I FEEL passionately about pasta in a good way.
I do not care for sushi but I'm not passionately against or those that enjoy it.

You would have the entire world divided and pitted against one another based and their opposing likes.

Liking what you like while maintaining a healthy rivalry is one thing, simply hating someone because they like something else is moronic.

[Mounce]

@GameCents

"Liking what you like while maintaining a healthy rivalry is one thing, simply hating someone because they like something else is moronic."

I don't think you're on the same page as everyone else or why they hate others and you're stretching it thin.

[ziggurcat]

when you go on camera, and tout something like fish AI as being an incredible innovation to the game then try to pass it all off as a "joke" later on even though it actually wasn't, then you deserve every bit of mockery that comes your way.

and of course, i don't mean you personally, i mean you in the general sense.

[GameCents]

The devs do deserved to be mocked, no doubt about it. But my question is about the hate people display towards the fans, not the games.
Love what you love but don't others for loving what they love.

[oof46]

I think it's funny. Not in a "Hahaha, eat it CoD!" way. Just, funny.

[Einhert]

It is because you are not a child

[3lectricpancake]

Well I play BF and CoD but the fish AI is just something to joke about

[CaptainYesterday]

Battlefield fans are always picking on the little guy (CoD) :P

[qzp]

even cod fans are making fun of cod at this point

[ape007]

we'll see how much cod player are gonna have when XBL and PSN activity chart roll

[Avernus]

No shortage of kids in the world :D

[ovnipc]

BF3 has great ideas but guns sucks, half of mag to kill an enemy, in cod 3 or 4 bullets enemy drops. Cod its more smooth more controllable. BF3 yea big maps but game sucks. COD all the way.

[FragMnTagM]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you don't know how guns actually work.

I have shot a lot of different kind of guns. Pistols, shotguns, rifles. I haven't shot anything fully automatic as that is illegal in my area. But accuracy with guns is similar to Battlefield by far.

I can agree with the hit detection sometimes in Battlefield, but the guns do work really well if you know how they work.

In Call of Duty, nearly all the guns handle the same. Sure the different classes of guns handle drastically different, but the guns in the same class handle very similarly and sound very similar.

In Battlefield, I can tell which direction a bullet is coming from with STEREO (not surround sound) speakers and which gun it is just from the sound of the bullet whizzing by my head and then the crack of sound from the firing of the gun. Obviously with surround sound it is even better. Whereas in CoD, it is really hard to tell which direction bullets are coming from until the red marker shows up on your screen, or you have a visual of the player that is shooting at you.

I am sorry but guns DO NOT suck in Battlefield. The hit detection might be slightly better in CoD, but the guns are not superior in any way.

[Avernus]

lolCoD... one of the few games where being next gen won't make a difference :P

[FanboyCrusher]

Fish reacting AI has existed since the 80's, the only reason Activision gets away with this crap is because their market isn't even old enough to drink yet, hell a lot of them can't even drive. The fish AI shows a very clear focus on what they want done next gen, and that's about as little change possible, while making it sound like you have lots. Why this fish AI was pushed in the first place I have no clue. It's no secret people buy Call of Duty for the multiplayer, why push a "feature" that you can't even witness in the most popular mode. And it's more popular BY FAR. Hardly anyone touches the campaign in comparison.

[_FantasmA_]

Battlefield is not much better than COD. It just seems like people praise BG just to hate on COD, but I see them both in the same boat. I'm speaking about BF3 though, I haven't played the others and most likely never will since they are with EA. Counter Strike owns them all.

[buynit]

Lol funny shit

[Funantic1]

Until Battlefield can sell as much as COD people should shut up. COD has been dominating for years and will this year too. SMH. The numbers don't lie.

[mwjw696]

Your right the numbers don't lie... there are a TON of idiots in this world. They keep buying COD every year with a new coat of paint to prove it.

[GamingTruth]

"It's because people tend to buy the same game over and over and not notice that it's just the same exact game with new guns and killstreaks while Battlefield always adds something new to the whole formula"

this is the best quote of the whole posting, is this what battlefield fans think and is it why they try and rag on cod so much? lol, battlefield is far more of a same game than cod other than an engine

[FragMnTagM]

lol, what?

Battlefield has drastically improved their game engine 3 times now.

The jump in graphics from BF2 to BF:BC1 and 2, to Battlefield 3 was quite significant.

If you are talking about game modes in BF, you win that one. Battlefield doesn't have too many different game modes. Battlefield 3 added a few new ones, but they were mostly close quarters only modes. There is some work that could be done there.

Still, Battlefield feels very fresh with each new game that comes out. I haven't felt like I have played a new game since the first MW on the CoD side though. I have played all of the new CoD's and they all feel like expansions.

To be honest, the biggest change in the CoD games has been to the zombies for Black Ops 1 and 2. They kept that fresh enough.

I cannot change your mind and am not aiming to, but I do think that you are incorrect in saying that Battlefield is more samey than CoD.

[RegorL]

Fish AI is reused Zombie AI...

The only change needed is the sign of movement direction.

Zombies moves towards you, fish away from you...

BTW I think this is the reason for Zombies to be so popular among developers - using a trivial AI gives you the right zombie feel.

Try to make an AI that makes squad mates and enemies to feel like real humans and suddenly you need to pass the Turing test - not only taking the right decision but taking the human decision...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It might very well be games that advances AI research fastest. Forza 5 is said to analyse your driving and drive in your style. In Need For Speed Rivals your friends can enter your single player game and take suddenly you play against a real human and not an AI. But I think the game needs to have a good in game AI to prevent the step to become ridiculous.

I do assume that BF4 will have the same possibility for friends to enter your single player game as NFS Rivals as they use the same engine.
- no need for coop
- expect the unexpected while playing
=> Replay value of single player

[ArtificiallyYours]

I have no problem with any shooters (I don't play favorites, dangerous gamble) but, a lot of their fan cults need to be rewired for social function. As to actually make the world a happier place.

[objdadon]

Dude, battlefield is the same shit too! I still like both though. Don't kid yourself thinking bf innovates new games, it's just tweaks here and there.