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Seamless Integration with the X1 and Skype

Back at E3, Microsoft showed us a brief demo of how Skype was going to interact with the X1, and needless to say, it all seemed quite impressive. Today, Microsoft further discussed the integration of Skype in the console. The powerful app utilizes Kinect’s voice and gesture controls to execute on-screen actions. The Kinect 2.0 camera will be able to make Skype video calls in full 1080p. The camera also features a “wide-angle field of view”. The service will be included into the Xbox One console, allowing gamers to activate calls using just their voice aka voice commands. The Kinect 2.0 has a remarkable microphone that will be able to interpret background noise unrelated to your call and drown it out such as TV’s or radio’s playing.

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mewhy323937d ago

I already can skype on my lg smart tv, tablet, phone, computer. Another thing that the Kinect can do is watch, listen, and transmit to the NSA even when you're not using the xbone because it's always on even when you think it's not. Don't forget that Micro$oft participates in the prizm project for the nsa. FACT google it. No thanks. I don't need a spy camera to allow me to skype.

malokevi3937d ago

Uhg. Paranoid drivel. Go barricade yourself in a basement with ammunition and spam.

I think this is great. My girlfriend uses Skype endlessly, so she will love being able to do it on the television. Not to mention that if I get a skype call from her while I'm gaming, I can utter a voice command and her face will pop up on the screen.

1080p? nice. Going to be a great feature!

mewhy323937d ago

No not paranoid just don't want a device watching and listening 24/7 in my home provided by a company that has already admitted that they participated in the nsa program prizm. But hey, if you don't mind being monitored and are will to pay to have it done then, by all means, go for it.

malokevi3937d ago

"if you dont mind being monitored"

Yeah.... paranoid drivel.

Fireseed3937d ago

@Mewhy32

If you don't wanna be monitored then get rid of your LG TV, tablet, phone and computer.

mewhy323937d ago

@winter

Hello? I can turn all of those off and they're really off. The only way to turn off the xbone and kinect is to unplug the power. Now if you want to do that everytime that you want to turn off the xbone then, hey, go for it.

rela82me3937d ago

If you don't want to be monitored, get rid of your email, don't use the telephone, don't send mail, don't get a ps4,don't go to a public place. Everything is monitored all the time, and Microsoft gave more attention on giving out outlook and search details out than anything. Plus they have them a work around to bypassing their security. So yes it theoretically possible that they could listen to you. They can also pick up a more clear, more accessible audio stream from your cellphone at ANY time. Not to mention anything you do on the Internet. If your trying to get through life without being monitored, just live in a box under some freeway.

Tres213937d ago

@ mewhy32 but how do u kno those things r really off off when u turn them off?

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Gunsmoke3937d ago

You're one of the Sony fans that feels threatened by the features of the One, aren't you?

KillrateOmega3937d ago

Oh, yeah. Definitely. Because every Sony GAMER has found themselves thinking: "If only my console, which I use to engage in the awesome hobby that is GAMING, had more entertainment apps on it"

/sarcasm

creatchee3937d ago

@KillrateOmega

So your argument is that

Gaming > Entertainment Apps + Gaming?

So having entertainment apps is negative? Do they makes games less good? THEY'RE BONUS FEATURES. You can use them if you like and have fun with them if you wish. You could also never use them at all. But the fact is that the games are still there, entertainment apps or not.

KillrateOmega3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

@creatchee

My argument is that games come first, entertainment apps come second.

I have never said that they are negatives. In fact, I have said, just as you have, that they are nice bonus features.

The reason that I sound like I'm hating on entertainment apps is because you get these people who talk about them like they are the most important thing about the consoles. Like they are revolutionary and exclusive to the consoles. Like they are the priority on the these GAMING consoles.

creatchee3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

@KillrateOmega

Okay I agree with you - games should be the most important thing on a games console. And I do honestly believe that both Microsoft and Sony will provide us with lots of games AND apps AND other entertainment experiences.

The only real difference is their marketing of it all. Microsoft is focusing on presenting itself as an all-in-one unit, whole Sony is focusing on presenting itself as a game console. However, this is only their marketing.

Both are all-in-one units. Both are game consoles. They pretty much do the same things, minus a few exclusive features on both ends. It's how they are presented that is the difference. Microsoft is building up the other things that a One can do besides game, while Sony is pushing all of their gaming-related features.

nukeitall3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

@KillrateOmega:

"My argument is that games come first, entertainment apps come second."

That is completely unimportant, it is about quantity and not relative.

What do I mean?

Wii U is a gaming first console, while entertainment apps second or even third, but it still has poor game support right now.

Yet, some claim the Xbox One is completely opposite having entertainment apps first, and gaming second, yet has far better gaming support than Wii U.

So as you can see, unless you claim Wii U is preferred over Xbox One, your argument is flawed!

Even if you did claim that, then your argument isn't flawed, but you are!!!

:D

What is important then isn't the focus, but the quality and quantity of that said support!

PC main focus has never been games, but it does it darn well and exceed console in support from game developers in general.

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n4rc3937d ago

Too bad that your smart TV, tablet, phone and computer can all by accessed by government agencies ..

But let's all blame Microsoft

mewhy323937d ago

This is true but I can TURN THEM OFF. Wow what a herd of sheep.

Gunsmoke3937d ago

Mew, you just went full retard.

Are you saying you cant turn off the One? smh.

tuglu_pati3937d ago

Oh no... never go full retard.

mewhy323937d ago

@gunsmoke

Hello???? Do you read the internet or watch the press conferences???? The only way to turn off the kinect is to unplug the power of the xbone from the power outlet. If you want to do that everytime that you turn off the xbone then I guess you're right and the xbone is the machine for you.

n4rc3937d ago

More bullshit from the fanboy ignorance..

You can shut the one off completely.. This is because some countries don't allow vampire electronics..

There is off, standby and on..

Do some research before running your mouth

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sAVAge_bEaST3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

I was just reading the Wall Street Journal this morning, (pg.6A) --Saying M$ workings with the NSA , goes deeper, than first thought.. back door access to email,. in Outlook,. Video, and Voice,-feeds in Skype..

--No thanks.

Gunsmoke3937d ago

lol there is no way you were reading the journal. there only thing I can see you reading is the back of cereal boxes and pro Sony propaganda pieces on N4G.

Wikkid6663937d ago

So, what you're saying is there is no need for an extra device because the NSA can clearly watch/listen to you already. Gotcha

Belking3937d ago

Skype on LG sucks butt. It extremely crappy. Anyone can google that if you don't believe me. Kinect and skype for xb1 will be much bettter due to kinect's superiority over other cams out there. Next time you want a decent smart tv go with samsung. They are much better.

gnothe13937d ago

I'd you can already skype on all these other devices an you have no intrest in the xbox one then WHY ARE YOU HERE...Is it just to spout your distaste for evsrything MS....I have no intrest in a 3DS an I don't read any 3DS articles or post in them...obviously you fell that way about the xbox so why post about something you don't want...just like I drive a HUMMER I'm not on toyota sites telling people not to buy toyotas....smdh

AngelicIceDiamond3937d ago

@Mewhy Then don't buy it then damn. You weren't anyway, so wtf are you doin in here. this discussion is completely unrelated to you. In fact ANY Xbox related article doesn't pertain to you.

Its always a PlayStation nuts the first to comment on Xbox articles good lord. Go somewhere else with that wining and crying and paranoia.

Yeah, I'm a little annoyed.

Anyway, we knew Skype was gonna be a big part of X1 I use skype from time to time. I don't mind using it on X1.

Skate-AK3937d ago

What kinda LG smart tv do you have? I have a 47" LM6400.

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R173937d ago

Thanks guys for the feedback, really appreciate it. I do understand you're concerns with Skype's past cooperation with our US Government and with all the crazed media focus on the Edward Snowden NSA leaks, I feel alot of people are in a hyper paranoid state right now. The fact is every company from our cell phone providers all the way to our credit card companies all report our information to intelligence agencies around the country. This is a growing concern among many, unfortunately it is also the state of the world we live in today. When it comes to hobbies such as gaming I like to use these consoles as a time to break away just from the pressures and issues on the News, and enjoy myself just as the way these systems were manufactured for. Regardless thank you guys for the read I do hope you continue to check our site daily for updates and reviews.

sAVAge_bEaST3937d ago

Not all, you must choose your company's wisely.

cell phone. -sprint.

internet. -cox.

You can't trust AT&T or Verizon.

nightfallfilms3937d ago

You think Cox doesn't spy on you? Think again bud.

JBSleek3937d ago

That's the thing I am saying. People are saying I won't get a One because I don't want to be spied on.

Well too bad at this moment you already are due to your phone, tablet, computer, email, etc.

And then you use all your energy to get mad at Microsoft and not your own government lol NSA won.

n4rc3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

EXACTLY!!

and I'm a Canadian.. The NSA has no impact on me anyways.. If your are an american, then yea.. The whole patriot act and such are a serious issue for you.

But let's me honest.. They don't spy on you unless there is benefit to it. They will spy on you if you have ties to terrorism, even if you are an american citizen.

99.99% of Americans have never and will never be actively monitored.. Simple cost/benefit analysis... There is nothing to be gained spying on some suburban middle class family

AedanClarke3937d ago

"The NSA has no impact on me anyways..."

This is 2013. At what point are other people in the civilized world going to realize that almost EVERYTHING that happens in the United States DOES affect them in at least some small way, whether they realize it or not? I don't approve of our dicks being in every civilized country's mouth, but that's how the US is now. Let's not pretend that it's not like that.

THamm3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

I'm not buying one because I don't think it will last past a year before failing. Too many hurdles to begin with and public perception of it is terrible. $100 more and saw a guy yesterday who was still passing along that it blocks used and DRM checks. Take out Kinect or just wait until a hacker distributes all the X1 players faces on gay porn ads

TheEvilWithin3937d ago

Ok for the xbot fans on here who keep defending xbone and saying its not going to be spying on you I want you guys to do a little test and tell me how it works out for you. Since you like the idea of throwing away your privacy so much. At night leave your curtains and windows open completely, keep your front doors unlocked, when going to the bathroom leave the door open so everyone can walk by and see you using the bathroom.

PRIVACY is a BIG deal to people. Its why we do the things we do to keep our self's safe from danger. Its a natural thing homo sapiens do to cope with trying to feel safe in our own environment. Putting a listening and watching camera in your living room even IF the NSA chooses to or not to listen and watch you is up to them weather true or not true.

Snowden has said that with windows they were using it to spy on Americans. What did Microsoft just announce they were adding to Xbox 1 oh that's right WINDOWS 8. What was the NSA using since 2010 to spy on people? Skype! What is Microsoft running around and praising about the Xbox 1??? Common... guess it... Its Skype! There are only so many connections that can be made. Weather you choose to connect them or not is up to you but the facts are still the same.

THamm3937d ago

Exactly, the whole "One" moniker tells you there is more than just a TV box sitting in the form of a game box. So arrogant and trying to change and instill rules in gaming as if they were EA with the NFL, saying take it loser or nothing.

tuglu_pati3937d ago

Does your computer has a camera? Does you smartphone has a camera? If the government want to spy on you they'll do it, people saying this is just a Xbox one problem is plain stupid.

TheEvilWithin3937d ago

Here is the thing for those people who say that. With a computer camera I can put tape over it and it will still function with out the camera. With Kinect it HAS to be plugged in a ALL times. Well why don't you do the same for the Kinect you wonder. Umm you can't. Microsoft have stated many many times now if you even step out of the view it pauses your game until it can register the person holding the controller. Its not the same as any other device. The Kinect 2.0 is a HUGE difference then a cell phone or laptop camera.

tuglu_pati3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

Bro if you need to put tape in you computer's camera you have a problem and its not just the camera its also the mic, but i guess you can cover that with tape too, right. Better run to the store and buy some duck tape.

Oh i forgot you also cover your phones mic and camera with tape.

do you realize how silly that sounds?

nosferatuzodd3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

Well fucking said evil at least you connect the dots very smart but the drones can't see past the green so you're words falling on def ears

kingdip903937d ago

So I'm playing my xbox ine in the future playing a future elder scrolls game or something walking through say a cave. The lights are off and the volumee is high and I'm very immersed in my gamaing experiance. I'm skulking something and my heart is racing for the up coming skirmish when bam! Incoming seamless skype call as I'm about to pounce i n my prey!!! I shit myself and the experiance is ruined....

Doesn't sound like a nifty feature for a games console at all

tuglu_pati3937d ago

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to turn off skype just like you do with messenger. You guys keep saying this really stupid things.

kingdip903937d ago

Not stupid, of course I know it can be turned off... but if I am turning these features off to play games which is the boxes supposed primary function then why is it there to begin with? Ok maybe its useful to some people but why make it seemless? Its distracting that way.

Also I'm no affiliated with anyone or any console... not sure which guys your equating me with

tuglu_pati3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

Im referring to you guys in the thread, Im not saying you are affiliated with anyone or any console.

People seems to be grasping at straws with this, I don't see the negative in having this features included with my consoles.

kingdip903937d ago

You might have missed the point a little. I do see some use of skype on x1 not for me but for others. What I do bemoan is making everything an easy streaming experiance. I don't have attention deficit, I like to focus on 1 thing at a time and making it to easy to bring up other modes on the console could really ruin my experiance in game. I dont understand touting it as a selling point

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1019d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref8d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde8d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19728d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville8d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21838d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos8d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai9d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref8d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan8d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0078d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19729d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19729d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref8d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde8d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19728d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19728d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier8d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto8d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21838d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto8d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman8d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts8d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts7d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic8d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Could Xbox Soon Become The Next Dreamcast?

Microsoft's future in the video game space is murky right now, so let's break it all down.

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ApocalypseShadow21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Not anytime soon. But they're on that path.

One thing not mentioned in the article is Microsoft's money bags. If Sega had Microsoft's money, they would have still been around as a hardware manufacturer. Xbox as a platform only survives because of the money bags. They can continue making consoles for the core and port to PC.

The multiplatform strategy is only the result of arrogance and misguided leadership that blew up in their face. They thought gamers would jump on Xbox in droves if they knew that many of their favorite games would be only on Xbox. But that's not happening at all. Sales didn't increase. They decreased. Why? Because the dumb asses thought giving away these expensively made games in a cheap service would also turn the tide.

Gamers on other platforms are willing to buy quality. They don't need to be handed nearly free games in a service that aren't even finished and sometimes average in their development. Gamers buy Nintendo games. They buy Sony games. Microsoft groomed their base to not buy games. Even the quality ones. It has always been their plan to go digital. But most gamers still like single player gaming. Still like physical releases.

Microsoft's problem has always been that they don't produce high quality games at the same output as Nintendo and Sony. Actually, they should be producing quite a lot more because they're worth over 2 TRILLION. How they don't have more is ridiculous and no excuse. Buying publishers to take away from competition only backfired. Because it still takes millions of dollars to continue to make those games from the publishers they snatched. Their only choice was to crawl back to their competitors to help sustain those developers because Nintendo and Sony platforms were the ones buying games.

Am I sorry for Microsoft? Hell no! They deserved last place for putting in the least effort. They deserved the fallout for buying up the industry and didn't make a single blip on the radar against their competitors where they now need those same gamers they took away games from to support them. Part of it may have been to cash in on their competition. But the result is the slow death of their platform. They may go 3rd party. They may keep making hardware. I don't give a shit about them to worry about it. I only give a shit about the destructive nature of their industry moves that only negatively affect gamers. They could sell and drop out of the industry and I wouldn't blink. Probably laugh. But not blink. They deserve whatever comes to them. At least Sega put in the effort when it came to games. They just had poor leadership. Microsoft has poor leadership and barely makes memorable games. That's a killer combination. And not in a good way.

Cacabunga21d ago

That would be an insult to Dreamcast.. it had a crazy line up of legendary critically acclaimed games.

Crows9021d ago

I was thinking the same. Dreamcast had incredible games in such a short amount of time. It was truly exceptional.

darthv7220d ago

...and yet all those great games were not enough to sway people from the looming release of the PS2 at the time. Sony just has that kind of brand loyalty.

Cacabunga20d ago

Darth

I do not agree.. Sony had even better games thanks to an unprecedented 3rd party support..
DC had amazing lineup but 90% were arcade games..

88320d ago

@darth:
And Sony showed off "The Emotion Engine" and their real time demos that made everyone think they would miss out on REAL next gen 128bit magic if they jumped in before PS2s polygon pushing monster (and early lack of anti-aliasing with a healthy heap of shimmer + DVD playback) stepped up. PS2 was a fantastic system though with amazing games.

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blacktiger21d ago

That's not true. Just because Microsoft has the money doesn't mean Microsoft can allow xbox to bleed entire Microsoft money. It doesn't work like they. Also SEC will be watching and investor won't allow it. Lot of reasons why Microsoft can not continue even if they wanted to. SEC regulations is expensive.

fr0sty21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Exactly this... Microsoft is a publicly traded company, mostly owned by their shareholders (Approximately 59.24% of the company's stock is owned by Institutional Investors, 7.73% is owned by Insiders and 33.03% is owned by Public Companies and Individual Investors.). Their shareholders call the shots on the business decisions, and their shareholders want one thing and one thing only, for their stock price to go up. Losses do not make stock prices go up... so if the division continually posts losses on hardware, but shows profits on software and services (which has been the case with Xbox its entire lifespan, for over 20 years now), the shareholders are going to grow impatient and demand they stop making hardware and focus on the only thing that has ever made them money, software and services.

When Microsoft bought Blizzard and Activision for almost 100 billion, I knew that was the nail in the coffin for Xbox as a console... as the shareholders were going to expect a quick return on that investment, and when it didn't materialize, they were going to be out for blood... out to force Xbox to sell those games on as many consoles as possible, "and while you're at it, sell those first party exclusives that aren't selling well on other consoles as well... hell, just stop making consoles and sell games."

If there is another Xbox console generation, it will definitely be the last, but I doubt there even will be one at this point. I think the Xbox division planning on it just in case, but I don't think the project has been greenlit from Microsoft itself. The rumors that they have not yet even secured the chips needed from the chip fabrication facilities ties into this.

shinoff218321d ago

While I usually agree with you . Alot of what was said can just also be asked before any of that.

How long will the shareholders wait? It doesn't appear long at all

Babadook720d ago

I think I get your point. Like just because MS has money does not mean they are content to throw it away on a dying ecosystem. Xbox has to be profitable or “what’s the point?”

ifinitygamer20d ago

Money bags, yes, but are we ignoring that Xbox actually makes a profit on games and GamePass? Hardware is often a loss leader, and they're probably making profit 4 years into the life cycle, but games and services revenue have been very profitable while other parts of Microsoft's business is struggling. Say what you will about the quality of those games, of course, but this is kind of a reverse Dreamcast situation, where the console was dragging down the company and put it at risk of shuttering entirely. Killing that console saved the business and allowed it to continue to make games on multiple platforms. In this case, the service is very profitable, as are the games, and they're also double-dipping into Multiplatform to extend this further, while their hardware is just sort of what they believe to be the best for gamers and their own titles (whether that is the case or not...)

fr0sty20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The issue is, they aren't selling enough hardware to make their exclusives profitable, and now that they've bought half the gaming publisher/dev industry, they have no choice but to go third party to make a profit... and that is making their shareholders take a real close look at their hardware division under the microscope... why keep making the hardware if the software is all that is making them money, and they continually, generation after generation come in dead last with hardware sales?

Look at a game like Spiderman 2... if it had been an Xbox exclusive, with the amount it cost to develop, it would have been a huge failure... simply not enough consoles out there to sell it on. They would have been lucky to break even.

ifinitygamer20d ago

@fr0sty agreed completely, which is why they're hedging by releasing other games to multiplatform, plus they have PC to make up for the difference in a lot of ways, which is why their games are not complete money pits. It brings up the question of whether or not those exclusives would drive sales of consoles, though. Let's say Spiderman 2 was an Xbox exclusive, it would certainly have pushed console sales, though who's to say how much is anyone's guess.

fr0sty20d ago

That's why you can't rely on just one exclusive, Sony has always delivered on a wide range of solid exclusives, even this generation (even if they haven't been strong on the first party exclusives, they've made up for it with third party). They don't rely on just one "system seller", they have a portfolio of them.

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JBlaze22620d ago

ApocalypseShadow To be honest Sony has more of a chance to go 3rd party because like you said Microsoft has money, Sony does not. Sony does not have games, Only games they have come from 3rd party. Sony has been losing money for years and you. Saying Microsoft has been putting the least effort just proves you have no idea what's been going on. All Sony has done is repeat and recycle, never innovating or doing something new. All Sony has is brand loyalty nothing else and it shows.

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LG_Fox_Brazil21d ago

Not sure about that. It's been two decades and I still think about Power Stone, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, Seaman and others, but I'm not sure I'll remember Xbox Series X/S games in a few years from now... Maybe I'll remember about the franchises that the Xbox brand spawned, but I don't believe that the Xbox Series lives up to the late Dreamcast or even to the Xbox name itself. I do have great memories about the 360 with Blue Dragon, Gears 2 and Lost Odyssey though

isarai21d ago

Nah, sega actually makes good games

Becuzisaid21d ago

No, Dreamcast was ahead of it's time and most still have very fond memories of it that had one. It also had some good games on it even in it's short lifespan. Xbox has none of these qualities.

Profchaos21d ago

I remember it coming out at the time in a really bad place they hit the market before the PS2 but it was during this transitional time when Sony was promoting the power of the PS2 and so many of the Dreamcast games were awesome but often third parties simply ported the PS1 version increased resolution and performance but rarely fully utilise the capabilities of the console.

I think in the end bad marketing done it in and like the GameCube so many people are fond of it now but at the time it was looked at in the lense of the day and it didn't stack up.

Personally I miss Sega in hardware they took risks that many companies won't

Becuzisaid21d ago

I never owned it, and got the PS2 right when it launched. But there were certain games it had that I was always jealous of that I didn't have access to - Sonic adventure, crazy taxi, power Stone, code Veronica, shenmue, skies of Arcadia. I always thought it was a really cool machine though. I've never heard a bad thing about it though from those that had it.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I only ever saw one Dreamcast, and that was one my friend owned, pity I never got to play it, I wonder what games he had for it?

It would be nice if some of those games got ported to modern systems.

Profchaos21d ago

Oh man sonic adventure on the Dreamcast made me so jealous as a huge sonic fan on the mega drive who also moved to PlayStation 2 I never got the chance to play it back in the day either. The Dreamcast in Australia where I am was always relegated to the smallest corner of EB Games it was kind of a strong first indicator that things were not going well at the time.

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