After some off-again, on-again drama over the past few days, it looks as if Nintendo is going to allow organizers to stream footage of the Super Smash Bros. portion of this weekend's Vegas EVO fighting game tournament over the Internet to worldwide spectators. But an interesting wrinkle was added to the story yesterday when EVO co-organizer Joey "MrWizard" Cuellar revealed in an interview with OneMoreGameTV that Nintendo initially wanted to prevent Smash Bros. from being played at the tournament altogether.
NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.
Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.
You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.
I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?
because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.
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I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.
When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.
Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.
Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…
oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .
I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?
What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?
Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter
PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter
Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.
Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.
I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.
"and here's how it competes against other fighters"
No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.
Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.
I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.
Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.
While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.
And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.
Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB
Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.
Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?
With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?
With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?
There are a lot of variables at play here
Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.
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Oh man... FZero. That is actually the only game I ever got sick off of. And Im not talking motion sick but full on seizure induced sick. It was so damn fast that my eyes just couldnt keep up and I found myself waking up in the hospital. Havent even tried to play it since, nearly 20 years ago. I can play wipeout, fast racing RMX, burnout... lots of other really fast racing games no problem. FZero really F'd me up that day.
Other cube games I never get tired of playing are mario kart dd, metroid prime, rogue leader and ikaruga
Man, we need a Viewtiful Joe and Viewtiful Joe 2 remake, along with F-Zero GX, Metroid Prime 1,2,3, can't forget Eternal Darkness, damn that game was amazing, Baten Kaitos as well. Noticed I said remake not remaster, I would love them to be remade in a whole new engine brought up to at least 2022 standards.😊 Remade on Switch and ones that are 3rd party can go multi-platform.
Honestly that console was up there in my top 3. So many good innovative games. Eternal Darkness was brilliant with the way it messed with you….aka your controller is disconnected… lol. Metroid, Zelda, Viewtiful Joe, and so many others. I miss playing them. Been thinking of buying a GameCube and jumping back into the nostalgia.
They want money, don't give it to them and get too big of an audience and too much money, then they will see that and shut it down. It's their product, why should anyone profit off it?
Mortal kombat > smash bros's any day, only kids are into smash bro's.
legally yes, they may be entitled to do that.
but it's not a good way of treating some of their most passionate fans.
these kinds of things, along with the youtube let's plays, are valuable promotional tools for nintendo if they had the sense to see them that way.
the best asset nintendo could have is a passionate fanbase.
but piss them off with actions like this and they could become their worst enemy.
if they go after the youtubers, they're not gonna make money off them, all that will happen is people will stop playing their games on youtube.
they get no money and the games don't get the promotion they would have.
it might be legal, but it's not smart.
This is a law that needs to be changed. The people that are actually playing the game and creating new content through there play through should be the copyright holder.
whereas i don't agree with what Nintendo's legal department has done (when following the news, you will know this decision was made by Nintendo's legal department), i can understand why they did it; since legally, they can do it. this is no different when you see "warnings" in DVD's indicating that is against the law to exhibit or publicly show any movies without getting a license. the main difference is that, it is easier to get a license for movies to show publicly, whereas for videogames it's not.
the legal department of Nintendo was doing it's job -- you might say, not a very good job in terms of PR, but then again, they're not PR guys, so they don't really care about backlash. nevertheless, it's just great that the bad rep reached the higher-ups just in time for them to reverse their decision.
could have been worse, they could have waited a week or so before backpedaling *cough* Microsoft *cough*.