Kojima Thinks Metal Gear Solid 5 Cannot Reach GTA 5's Level

Hideo Kojima says that Rockstar's team are the best.

[Snookies12]

Wow.... That means a lot coming from Kojima... Rockstar has outdone themselves it seems with GTA V. That said, I'm looking forward to both GTA and MGS V. I will buy them both on launch, no doubt.

[rezzah]

It doesn't matter what they say, both games will be purchased.

These two games are epic.

[Awesome_Gamer]

I've always been a fan of this guy. So humble..

[ape007]

both are LEGENDS, two of the greatest games, i prefer gta but mgs is one of my fav games, just a little step under gta

i'll never forget MGS 2 and GTA 3 days, San Andreas and MGS 3 days and MGS 4 and GTA IV days

can't wait for GTA V and MGS V

[refocusedman]

I have Nothing but respect for Hideo. It takes a big man to state that someone elses product is better. He never said that MGS V wont be epic, he just thinks that GTA V will be better. Alhough it is like comparing apples and oranges, at the end of the day it shows that he is still a fan.

[JonnyBigBoss]

This 1000x.

Meanwhile, Peter Molyneux is somewhere making promises about how revolutionary the next Fable will be.

[ZodTheRipper]

Can't believe you got disagrees for that. We need more developers like Kojima that have respect for each other and not people like Molyneux that just hype their product. If your product is good, hype comes by itself.

[Pancit_Canton]

As far as open world games - GTAV wins

In terms of Graphics and Story - MGSV Wins

Gameplay - Tie

Overall - Gamers Wins

[omi25p]

Story i think is a tie. While gameplay GTA V wins simply because there is such a vast array of things to do and all those things look to be designed with such attention to detail.

[Braid]

Hey omi,

"Story is a tie"

Didn't you just wrote "I lost track of who's who in MGS" in an above comment?

I don't mean to disrespect your opinion, but if you don't have a good grasp of the characters (and thus the story arc), how do you make a comparison? I agree that there are too many characters and that there is a convoluted relation between them going on, but that's just the beauty of it and why we love MGS games.

The story of MGS is one of the best stories in the gaming history if not (arguably) the absolute best. It's just in another league while GTA had always been gameplay centric. I don't even think they are comparable in terms of storytelling.

[ape007]

gameplay tie?

hmmmm

[BillytheBarbarian]

Maybe he's hinting at mgs is going to be open world

[Pancit_Canton]

It is an open world similar to red dead redemption.

[BillytheBarbarian]

Nice. Wonder how much stealth will be involved or will they throw that out the window.

[Transporter47]

@billythebarbarian

You really need to go look at the new trailer released at E3

[Sono421]

Or just check out the article... they posted the trailer in it.

[EdoubleD]

Watch the trailer man, the stealth is still there in all it's glory.

[omi25p]

Watch the trailer from Microsofts e3 conference. It looks incredible.

[SnotyTheRocket]

Its open world stealth. Remember the OGRE thing Kojima was working on, Open Ground (i forget the rest). MGS5 is Project OGRE. It's open world.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

MGS5 don't have to be on GTA5 level. It's on another different level. I'm getting both games but I'm more excited for MGS5 than GTA5.

[PSjesus]

he always making games with GTA in mind i remember in one of his interviews before MGS3 he said that he wish if their is an engine that make open world games more approachable and realistic his example was GTA:VC

[TuxedoMoon]

I take it he means interactivity with the open world element. GTA5 will have more stuff to do than MGSV. There are more cars and things to play with in GTA5. I'm basing this assumption off of the previous games I played. Gameplay wise though, MGSV seems to be more of an evolutionary step than GTA5. GTA5 just looks like more of the same, but prettier. whereas MGSV's open world element adds new things to do for that franchise. Driving stuff in an open world is new for MGS5 as well as dynamic sneaking around.

Which one will be better? We have to play both to find out.

[Salooh]

Both are day one , that's all it matter...

[ape007]

it's day -7 to me, games get released early in the middle east

the last of us released june 2nd here

[mafiahajeri]

Yes but their going to abuse the price especially with GTA, remember GTA IV?

[-Gespenst-]

I appreciate his honesty in this age of deceptive advertisement, but I'd still pick MGS over GTA every time.

[Klonoa-dreamtraveler]

id pick metal gear solid over gta too. .......actually id pick any game over gta.

[ape007]

truly doubt you being a true gamer, gta is one of the few games in the industry that shows what gaming is all about

[Klonoa-dreamtraveler]

@ape007: its the same effing game as the last one. every time the same stupid missions. follow this guy in a car, do a drive by to this guy. im more of a gamer than you to effing see that with the same wannabe gangster plot everytime so if thats what you think gaming is all about your a sucker. i stop playing gta after gta 3.

[CLOUD1983]

No matter how good GTA V will be experiences like the one I get from every MGS game I'll never find anywhere else, MGS is the only game series that keep the standards at the TOP for more than 15 years now & keep deliver with every new sequel/prequel/spinoff constantly, it never disappoint & that's why more than 6 millions fans follow the series & buy every new MGS game they can find, Hideo have nothing to fear he is a genius & he have our trust & support in anything he decide to do :)

[ape007]

gta can give a true gameplay/substance feel that make mgs feel shallow, 2 different games

"MGS is the only game series that keep the standards at the TOP for more than 15 years now & keep deliver with every new sequel/prequel/spinoff constantly, it never disappoint"

umm, what about mario, zelda and metroid? nothing against mgs, it's legendary but there are others too

[mafiahajeri]

All those you listed have either milked their franchises dry or have been in hiatus for way to long, hes right MGS is always top notch and Konami Pace themselves brilliantly with the series, its not the only one but certainly top 3.

[SnotyTheRocket]

And with every MGS game, the gameplay changes. MGS3 to MGS4 is an Example, and to a lesser extent, MGS4 to Peacewalker. They just keep getting better and better, and they've never messed up.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

GTAV needs to be on next gen systems.. MGSV looks incredible and I can't wait to play that on PS4.

[Adityac]

Well, you don't say?

[MisfitsInc]

i'll take MGS over GTA, but that's just my feelings

[MeatAbstract]

Big difference being - GTA V will be a game to have fun in. Do the story, then you run over pedestrians and blow up cop cars.

MGS 5 will have a convoluted story and cutscenes that will put some of Peter Jacksons film running times to shame. You'll play for the story and those special moments. Will the open world of MGS 5 be full of stuff to do? In the trailer he just rode on a horse and they had to fast forward because nothing was happening. It looked impressive, for sure but I doubt it'll have the amount of 'time sink' activities that we've seen in other games. We shall see though.

[omi25p]

Dont forget the mutliplayer and the RPG elements that are being implemented in to GTA V that will no doubt add days of gameplay.

[MeatAbstract]

Oh of course. My point being is GTA has much more to do than just the story side of it and you often play it for humor and to kill your friends online etc. It's something you'll pop in a few months down the line to have a killing spree and maybe jump online

MGS has a long, long story behind it or characters we know. I can imagine, much like MGS4, play the story through 2, maybe 3 times and then having my fill of it. I know there will be fans that have played through the games probably 150+ times and found all the easter eggs or whatever but, personally, GTA always keeps me coming back to have a 'quick blast'

[Hicken]

I find that when most people say a story is convoluted, they really mean they don't have the attention span to follow it all.

[MeatAbstract]

Way to sound really pretentious. Because calling the MGS story convoluted and contrived, it's quite clearly a case of "You don't get it!" am I right?

[karl]

if i had both game.. i wouldnt even touch GTA5 till i finish MGSv at least two times...

then i would play the hell outta rockstars game...

[Silly gameAr]

I know that Kojima has a lot of respect for other devs in the industry, but what the hell has been up with him lately?

[TheOneEyedHound]

I know.

[Cryptcuzz]

What do you mean? Honest question, haven't been following up with all the news lately. Thanks in advance.

[KingKevo]

He's honest and realistic, I like that. Both games will be great but I agree with Kojima saying that R* North are pretty outstanding.

[plaZeHD]

I never got into the Metal Gear Solid series. I bought Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots, but I hated the gameplay, not my style. And artistically the visuals are not appealing.

[evilhasitsway]

are you kidding me did you ever play any of the other mgs games if not go play them some of the best games ever! and "visuals are not appealing" please mgs games have had some of the best graphics of there time all the way back on ps1 ps3 and on ps3 mgs4 has some really good graphics and as for the gameplay of mgs4 yeah it got away from all the stealth but was still a GREAT GAME.

[Npugz7]

Way to throw your studio under the bus! I'm sure that not what they would want to hear while they are developing MGS5.

[SpitFireAce85]

This is a japanese dev with a lot of respect for other studios

[Jamaicangmr]

Humility, i respect that.

[monkey48]

I can tell you all one thing, its great to be a gamer.

[evilhasitsway]

ok now that I have read that article I will say this mgs and gta games is the two series that have keep me a gamer since ps1 I have deep respect for both. to me nether are better than the other. both have always been two different type of games if mgs5 goes back to stealth ways it will be epic. and gta5 yes I will say it looks to have more freedom but sometimes giving all that freedom at the very begging of a game could also ruin it. with that said gta will hold me off till next gen cant wait.

[MonChiChi]

Very obvious, Rockstar has set the bar for open world, always has. As soon as they announced mgs5 to be open world, I said no way it will even come close to what GTA5 open world is.

Rockstar doesn't use the words "open world" just for hype. I respect Kojima but I think he went out of his element for mgs5, hope I eat my own words but we will see.

[Agent_hitman]

Mr. Kojima s a well respected guy, he earned my respect..

[Neemoney]

Jeez, is this whole page filled with rockstar fans? Everything that demotes gta 5 is completely bashed with "Disagrees" lol

[nix]

not if the GTAV goes the GTAIV way...GTAIV was utterly boring game.

but Kojima is just too honest and humble.

[redcar121]

mgs has nothing on gta sorry man

[animegamingnerd]

we need more developers like kojima and less like cliffy b

[Nicholasgliss]

Also, less like the arrogant David Jaffe.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

He's just being humble, but I respect that.

MGSV will be utterly amazing.

[Gardenia]

If it was the first MGS i would have disagreed with him. But expect for MGS3 Kojima hasnt made a game close to the brilliance of the first MGS. And thats been a while now

[Shane Kim]

How can people lose track on the MGS saga? A bunch of tards here. Go download the MGS database from PSN if you can't keep up with the story.

[nick309]

I love kojima's honesty. He shouldn't worry though .

[mitchell1188]

I want more Z.O.E!!!!

[titans9999]

Kojima, that is a sad excuse for not putting all you can into a game! Just laziness....if I was a boss, and I had a team of people like GTA, I would make the MGS team learn from the GTA team to be as good.....sorry to say that Kojima wimped out on this one!

[BlaqMagiq24]

He's not even close to done with the game, what are you talking about? He just stated he doesn't think it's gonna reach its level. This is just like he thought after seeing The Division he has to try harder. He's giving credit where it's due

[titans9999]

No excuses Kojima, you suck!

[Jovanian]

kojima should keep doing his thing in terms of gameplay because he knows what hes doing, but he should SERIOUSLY take a note from western videogames on how to write and tell a story. Good grief MGS4 was just offensive at how awful that story was told and just how convoluted it was

[Mr-SellJack]

Won't buy gtav just to support the great and humble kojima plus he means as open world feel not the better game for those misunderstood punks

[MilkMan]

This is high praise from a famous, influential and very liked developer. For him to say this about Rockstar specifically and a Western developer generally should raise eyebrows in Japans. At the very least.

[Arty84]

Yes and no while both are now open world they are too different to compare I don't expect the next mgs to have a golf or tennis mini game for example its more straight foward on it purpose

[windblowsagain]

I don't see how either have anything in common.

I'm actually not into either game.

But i've seen footage of both and thought they both looked good.

[solidboss07]

It would be impossible for any Team to beat Rockstar at what they do. Metal Gear Solid is my favourite series, but Kojima Productions do not make open world games. GTA 5 has a whole American State to play in with all of the hustle and bustle of the real word, the greatest such realization ever, built upon many years of experience, many different stories to explore, its the players journey as much as the game's characters.
MGS 5 is big boss's story, we are just along for the ride. Open world or not you can't have Boss picking up hookers, or buying sneakers from a store, it wouldn't work. MGS has always had a sandbox feel within the corridors of gameplay, and I look forwards to the most open world MGS ever.
Two different but equally brilliant game series. Nice to see Kojima acknowledge Rockstars abilities, although he is also resetting some people's expectations to a more reasonable level.

[Foxgod]

In terms of fun, they both rank equally to me, imho.

[AiirJordann23]

Kojima doesn't know his own talent. MGSV was one of the best games (graphically) at e3, but he might just be saying that, because GTAV is on current gen and it looks amazing, but MGSV is on next gen.

[Joe913]

I like both but there is no way GTA V will come close to MGSV hell people still do not believe the footage is for current gen and will look better for next gen like how can they make that game look better than those previews lol.

[Tzuno]

He saw the trailer of Gta 5 and he realized that he need to invent a new Ip.

[mediate-this]

ohhhh yuuu soo kinddddd

[Martywren]

GTA V and MGS 5 look sic cant wait too play.

[claud3]

Both creators are genius game makers

[Enigma_2099]

Know what the best thing about this is? I don't have to choose. I'll buy them BOTH!!!

[lucidity]

It's a weird comparison because they set out to do such different things. I don't really think one can be strictly better than the other.

[oxcar1]

I prefer more deep immersive gameplay than open world videogames... MGSV all the way... GTA can wait on shelves for me

[Kidmyst]

I'll play both to decide for myself but it's nice to hear a developer compliment another studio like this.

[yami930]

I think Rockstar is the company to look towards when you say Western Development, anything they make is great. It hurts to see every company say they want to be like western developers and then say their lead example is Infinity Ward and the 1 game series that they continue making -_-

[ZBlacktt]

Without David Hayter he is very correct. He's all over the map with the game this time. People are not sure what to think of MGS now.

[lex-1020]

But you have to trust Kojima. I don't know if you remember when MGS first came out and he picked David Hayter. No one knew who David was but he became a legend. Maybe this new guy will do the same. I'm sad they didn't pick David, but I think we need o give Kojima a chance. He's earned that much.

[ZBlacktt]

Yes, been with MGS since it first came out. I own this avie for that reason. After 15 years with David. There simply no reason to toss him aside. Then we see stories like this were it sounds like Kojima has lost all faith in himself. The series is legend and he should always speak of it as such.

But with him saying he is done after MGS4. Then making a Raiden spin off game and giving that to someone else to make. Then asking other dev companies to make trophies for MGS1. I'm just not so sure his head is in it anymore.

[SephirothX21]

Both are very different games. Rockstar North have some excellent physics, AI and animation programmers where they're based in Edinburgh. MGS graphics are better but the RAGE engine's physics look better.

[STEWIE_PLAY_PS4]

I buy both game it, Probably GTA V will won or MGS5 will win?
GTA V big map and if real of Lot peoples and real law traffic total won than MGS5.
MGS5 stealth, storyline and else feature total won than GTAV no respect law traffic, few people same GTAIV?

GTA V won or MGS5 won
If both won XD

[Nicholasgliss]

Japan holds honor in the highest regard. I wish more counrties had their level of loyalty and integrity. I like Kojima and company even more now.

[Nexus38]

for me it's easily gta i know people will disagree and thats fine we all have our own opinions but this gta looks to be in my opinion one of the greatest games ever made so far, the amount of detail, content and graphics is truly world class, rockstar know what their doing, they arent money grabbers putting out a new game every 11 months cough cough cod, they put years of effort and time into these games and it pays off everytime, and for those reasons i can tell gta 5 will be one of my favourite games of all time

[lex-1020]

I have to say that I love how Kojima is always complimenting other developers on their work and saying how he is inspired by them. Kojima is a god in the video game world and I'm sure he knows people think of him that way, so it takes a huge level of humility to say things like this. Good on you Kojima. We need more people like you.

[weap0nx]

Simple answer is it doesn't have too reach GTA level. Its amazing on its own.

[Kos-Mos]

Hard to compare since gta is for teens and Metal Gear Solid is for the adult. Don`t understand? Just try to dwell into all the intertextual references in MGS, and you know you`re dealing with a game with depth. Understand now? No? Then go play gta and have fun.

[thelaughingwiseman]

depth and convoluted mess are totally different. That was the case with Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriot. They tried using big, complex ideas and fitting them into a story to make it sound like an "intellectuals" game. MGS was a straight, linear game where people gravitated to the story (meaning they could actually follow it) and the characters. MGS 3 was a great story and the characters were also memorable. Boss fights in those 2 games were very well created. Can you say the same for MGS 2 and 4? I don't think so.

[Kos-Mos]

Haha. 2 and 4 are the ones with most depth. If the story confuses you, you should read an analysis, not a "find plot holes" analysis. There are plot holes in every fiction created. Number 3 is the easiest to understand, thus more gamers flock to it saying it`s the best one.
There is only one game that surpasses Metal Gear Solid`s depth; Xenogears.

[GTAallday]

GTAallday

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[cyclindk]

All comes down to preference in the end... but yeah, it's no secret, ESPECIALLY to dev people, what their limits are and budgetary restrictions.

I'm sure there will be things in MGS5 that GTA V can't do either.

That's what makes every game, movie, or book (anything really) unique (minus CoD games that is... :) ) but hopefully that will change.

[Mr-SellJack]

V stands for victory and mgs v is going to be the best game ever made when it releases

[CrimsonDragon90]

Best game ever made I don't think so. For MGS V to be the best game ever it will have to be the best selling game ever, and best review game, and win countless awards, and will have to be like by everyone. MGS V Will be a decent game, but the not the best.

[thelaughingwiseman]

I'm still not sold on either game. Is Kojima going to follow the MGS 4 route and make the game completely cutscenes. Many people forget how much was game play, and how much was cutscenes. The story was too convoluted, and that made me lose interest. Solid Snake was the reason I finished the game. He didn't care what was going on, he just had to stop terrorist.
Or is he going the route of Peace Walker, which I think is a far better game both with multiplayer and story. It wasn't as convoluted and actually felt like a sequel to MGS 3 (which it basically was).
I still don't know why people think Open World means a better game. I don't know if MGS is meant for open world. How open will it be? Will it be on one island or are there going to be places you travel to? I don't know if he's worked with other open world games (directed, created). But who am I kidding? What if the game is crap? Will you guys be honest and call him on it or are you guys just going to accept it as "the game" of the next generation?

GTA 4 was lame when it came to the story mode. It was boring, and it was missing the funnest aspect of the previous installments; there weren't any gangs like they were in the in GTA 3, Vice City, San Andres. The diversity of enemies you could make and the ability to do them separately was fun. It was also missing that cartoonish, over the top feel, and that made me feel less into the carnage I was doing in GTA4. I was stuck on the games main feature, which was it's badass Multiplayer. That thing was the reason I still owned the game. It was tons of fun.

[Batzi]

MGSV is different than almost every other Metal Gear Solid game. And no he already confirmed that V won't have alot of cutscenes and the storytelling will be totally different from previous games. Have faith in him, the game will be brilliant!

[FanOfRootBeer]

It's cool, Kojima; it doesn't need to.

[vork77]

i think it can if david hyder was in it

[Mac420]

It's all your personal OPINION, I completely agree with him, Nobody does what Rockstar does with open world games. To me besides R* , Bungie , DICE, Valve think the rest of the industry is always just rehashing what they do then just implementing what R* or Bungie does into there games. They would rather copy an paste then take a risk, Hopefully this next gen that changes. But the way it looks most likely won't because the vast majority of consumers are just morons.

[aim4dabushiz]

U ask me to name a game that defines why I play and I'll tell you MGS... but GTA is just a different type of animal, that words cant describe!

[sevilha82]

Well they are both amazing games in they´re onw genere.
One is going to make me laugh(a lot)and the other one will problably gonna make me cry a couple of times,so all i need is to really enjoy them.

Thank´s Kojima and Rockstar for rocking our world.

[Dagobert]

True, it can't reach the shit level of GTA5. MGS5 is in some next level shit, it's too good be on the same level as GTA5.

[Welcome2Die]

Maybe if he focused on the PS3/PS4 when making the game it would have...

[Batzi]

I love Kojima! Can't go wrong with this guy!

[ArtificiallyYours]

Why oh why is this a problem for mister Kojima? Did he forget the legacy he set in stone and how it bolstered Playstation's future?

[DanielForth]

maybe as a sheer open world experience, THis is they're first go around, HOwever in other respects, MGS is gta equal if not its superior.