Xbox One November Launch & Hardware Bundle Contents Confirmed

Following the revelation of a fact sheet detailing the launch day offerings of the Xbox One console shortly after its announcement, a debate has raged as to the decision not to include a headset. Today it’s been confirmed that this decision has been reversed, as an updated list of the contents has been revealed.

[MizTv]

They seem to be Reversing alot

[Foxgod]

It would have been reversing if the X1 was already out, and they came back on their decisions.

This is simply a change of plan, nothing had been set in stone yet.
For example, if MS would decide a couple of year down the line to stop kinect from being mandatory (doubt they ever will, and i dont want them to), then that would be a reversal.

[Gazondaily]

Yay! Wired headset included. Thank God for that because it seemed like a stupid decision otherwise.

But still...I need an adapter for my Turtle Beach PX5.

[zeal0us]

While "change of plans" would be the phrase to describe this situation, "reversing" could also be the word to describe this situation. See as MS did say that the Xbox One wouldn't include a headset and now it does.

There isn't some magically universal law that states this situation only be describe with only one word or phrase. If you were writing a term paper your professor more than likely wouldn't care which you term or phrase you use, so long as you as your sentence is worded correctly.

Regardless its good to see that MS is listening to the feedback.

[B-radical]

Could be the work of Julie Larson-Green ;)

[MikeMyers]

@zeal0us,
"Regardless its good to see that MS is listening to the feedback."

It is good and they know they have a lot of hard work ahead of them after the controversy over some of the things they wanted to implement and the fact Sony undercut them by $100.

What people should take note of on the forums are those who are offering constructive criticism and destructive criticisms. Two vastly different viewpoints. One wants the Xbox One to be the best product possible while the other side never really wanted the system in the first place and will continue to try and pick apart any weakness so that their preferred choice is always looking better.

I don't expect them to ever drop the Kinect camera but I do expect a price drop rather quickly (within the first year) if sales are slow. Microsoft can afford to do that more than the other two companies (example being the Wii U and Vita getting price cuts).

[nukeitall]

Well this is a nice surprise, but I won't likely use the headset when I can use the included Kinect One.

The sound cancellation technology to reduce noise from your TV or game is incredible based on the tech demos shown.

If you still want the headset, fine, but I will be rocking it with Kinect enjoying the future! :D

[RedSoakedSponge]

@nukeitall

is it possible for a link of that video please? :)

i have been wondering about how good the sound cancellation is on it for a while now.

hopefully it would still work when you have the volume up high, otherwise its pretty unusable for me.

[JokesOnYou]

Wow that's great news if true but the reason it wasn't included initially is because you can use Kinect as your mic of course its not a necessity but its a plus.

[nukeitall]

@RedSoakedSponge:

Your wish just came true! Awesome noise cancellation using new Kinect technology:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[gamertk421]

@bradical. I can see her coming into the room like a mom and saying "what the hell is going on here, kids?". Changes ensue.

[MizTv]

It's the same thing

[n4rc]

I've said this a hundred times already..

Ignore the fanboy bs. The exclusive argument is crap.. Fanboys can't comprehend that some ppl don't give a crap about uncharted... And they just assume what both companies will do in the future

Kinect isn't a add on like this gen.. Its part of the system..

DRM is part of life... It already exists.. Ms just tried to streamline the process and all the kiddies complained.. Acting like Sony is against DRM or they didnt want their camera included as well just makes you look stupid really...

They did what they could to beat ms in the preorder race... Which still didn't happen if you read a non Sony Fanboy site..

People are just gullible as all hell

[awesomeperson]

The OXMUK twitter account stated that an official Microsoft PR rep stated that as far as he knows, the plans remain unchanged.

So either the PR rep doesn't know, the distributor simply got it wrong, or it was meant to be confirmed at some other time and this is some sort of leak.

Only time will tell.

I personally find it strange how MS included a headset with the 360, but not with the X1. So it would not be surprising if they did reverse and include one.

[redwin]

This is great, more choices, I would use the kinect but my son would not and that why he did not want the xboxone but now he likes it. What a difference a $20 piece of equipment does. Lol.

[Bigpappy]

This is a good move. Now everything you need is in the box. No need to go back to the store until the next next-gen.

Good move by M$. They have always done this, so it was expected by those who bought any of the previous systems.

[malokevi]

This is great news. OPTIONS! I'll be using the Kinect for my limited communications anyways. but, its nice to know that those people who thought leaving the mic out was a big deal will be pacified and, hopefully, satisfied.

I know I will be.

[sigfredod]

IF MS says in publich that for the comunication the kinect is included, yes is a reverse on their plans to include a headset

[Imalwaysright]

@ Mike You wanted the X1 to be worst. You were here defending DRM. If MS listened to the likes of you and went ahead with their DRM policies they would have destroyed the Xbox brand.

[morganfell]

Actually no headset included:

http://n4g.com/news/1304338...

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

A sign of weakness.

[medman]

This just in...Microsoft has reversed it's decision to reverse itself, thereby reversing the reversal of reversings. I can't make it any more clear than that.

[CrimsonStar]

I have a felling no matter what MS does you would never be satisfied.

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

They should go back to DRM GMO so we can do that family sharing 10 people same game. That was the best idea ever. They need to reverse the policy to the third power! I want that family sharing deluxe. Cloud is good. I like cloud.

Don Mattrick left because Microsoft couldn't handle his massive hands!

[Syntax-Error]

So they changed policies before the release of the console and you call it weakness? Sony changed policies and structure before the announcement and you call it LISTENING TO THE GAMER, so I don't understand why we shouldn't label you a fanboy?

If MS listened to the community and removed DRM, forced the resignation of the douche bag that imposed it, offered free games on their online network monthly, and offered a power system with a great bundle of joy...you call that weakness? I call that a company saying "WE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR"

[insomnium2]

@medman

Good effort though. Have a cookie.

[MizTv]

And I never said it was a bad thing

[ClosedUnknownz]

Micro$oft is only delaying inevitable.

[CrimsonStar]

What? delaying what?

[360ICE]

Aren't we all just delaying the inevitable?

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

Cue the Darth Vader theme.

[Syntax-Error]

What's the inevitable? Ummm, no one has won the console war yet, because not ONE DAMN CONSOLE HAS BEEN SOLD. The term is PRE-ORDERED which can be switched at any given time for no amount of money. Secondly, It's 4 months until the first console is sold and any company can do whatever they want at this point. MS doesn't have to change it's price because you're cheap, but they can offer you a pack-in title to sweeten the pot. $100 doesn't break the wallet of a man willing to spend $400

[SniperControl]

X1's official distributors Gem Distribution Ltd list this as an extra accessory.

http://www.gem.co.uk/pressc...

[Nafon]

Don Mattrick probably thought we wouldn't mind if he took things away and made things complicated, but the fans did mind. a lot.

[LAZL0-Panaflex]

The gamestop guys say it was a bad move reversing the MRD.

[RM-TatoTiburon]

nice great news (if it's true) i love kinect but i don't want that everybody at home hear my party chats

[wastedcells]

Too many changes so close to launch. I'm going to ignore everything Xbox one until its out and then we will know for sure what the hell is going on.

[Mounce]

They're flipping switches everywhere.

[Syntax-Error]

BTW, They are selling Crysis 3 on XBL for $19.99, Prey and Pefrect Dark Zero for $2.99, and Bulletstorm and Mass Effect for $4.99. Left 4 Dead 2 and Witcher 2 are also $9.99. Talk about giving something special to the gamers. If this is an apology, i'm listening

[HugoDrax]

Everyday this week I have made a purchase on Xbox live hahaha! I downloaded AC3, Bulletstorm which I finished yesterday, and Orange Box for $5 although I own a copy on disc as well. I'll be purchasing Walking Dead 400 days tomorrow, and I hope Tomb Raider & Revengeance goes on sale as I still need to play those games.

As far as your comment up top referring to CONFUSED, I agree! I had gone to GameStop two days ago and bought 3200 points for the Ultimate Game sale. I asked the employee to pull up my account to check my pre orders. Thus far I have pre ordered:

XB1 day one= $500 plus tax
XB1 Controller = $60 plus tax
PS4 day one= $400 plus tax
PS4 controller = $60
Forza 5 = $60
DR3 = $60
Second Son = $60

Total = $1,200 plus tax in the hole...

I just discovered today that Infamous isn't a launch title so I have to replace that pre order for another game, maybe KILLZONE. Furthermore I asked the employee...

ME - "I was lucky to have gotten my day one pre orders in on time for both consoles right?"

GS Employee - "Yes you are, although we still have PS4 pre order slots available but we don't have anymore pre orders available for XB1"

I was shocked! as I was definitely under the assumption that there were no more PS4 pre orders available for day one consoles at GameStop. I say this because pre order numbers don't mean a thing, and people can cancel pre orders at anytime. Purchases are what matters, and we won't know where both consoles stand until they are on store shelves. The negative press Microsoft is receiving is just what it is...Press! The real battle between corporations begins on launch day.

[CrimsonSquall]

@Auric I'm pretty sure awhile ago SONY gave the okay to keep going with preorders and not make them so finite at Gamestop

[Angeljuice]

@AuricGoldfinger

The pre-order sales depend on the number of consoles expected to be manufactured by launch day. If they were both releasing with say 2 million consoles, then you would be right to be shocked. However the fact that every store has received more allocations for release day PS4 units than XB1 units suggests that Sony is simply manufacturing more units in time for launch.

This is probably down to the fact that the eSRAM is fairly difficult to produce, and Sony has a better link with the hardware manufacturers.

Some are suggesting there will be 5 PS4's for every XB1 at launch, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Syntax-Error]

Absolutely. I originally pre-ordered a PS4 because of the DRM and policies, but once they were lifted I switched my order to X1 since that was my first choice. I like the look and features of the console better. Even though I enjoy my PS3, I think a PS4 IMO is an updated PS3 because I am getting no new features except a share button. The 360 and X1 are clearly different consoles and I like XBL a lot better even though PS+ occasionally gives you free games as long as you remain a subscriber.

[Gamer1982]

Lets be fair though MS might charge you £20 for a headset but it probably costs them £1 to make as is a mono headset and a frail one at that. Stick with a turtle beach one or something else for proper sound. I hate the fact all consoles come with a headset as it does mean you get the same issue every 360 had a TON of kids on headsets talking smack as they all own one..

PS3 never had that issue as they never went out and bought a headset to talk to the kids were quiet.. Well most of them but now both consoles are gonna have smack talking kids *sigh*.

[Genuine-User]

That's good for X One supporters :)

[vikingland1]

It seems that Microsoft is listening to their fans concerns more and more. That is a good thing in my opinion.

[Ginesis]

I get the feeling the XOne will be the new PS3 fanfare wise. If you notice it's kind of following in the same suite. Think about it, it cost the most (PS3 was $599), their system cost is a bit more because of tech they're trying to push (PS3 had bluray) and this one is only my opinion they have the better launch lineup so far. Microsoft seems to be a little ahead of where Sony was at this point because they're making changes before the systems release, not after the fact.

[southernbanana]

When you look at things Microsoft has done the past few years they have really been listening to their consumer base and have been making changes to their products accordingly. People can call it back tracking and such, but it is also about keeping their consumer base happy and that is what people should think about. How many other companies can you think of in recent memory that have made drastic changes to products to answer consumer wants? I pre-ordered both consoles, but I find it strange that Sony removed the camera bundle to cut price, but then added a free feature that requires the camera to operate. I bring that up because I have read a lot of hypocritical posts lately. I know those comments are from the one-console-owning fanatics, but it is a bit ridiculous.

[from the beach]

M-E-G-A-T-O-N!

[No_Limit]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't worry, N4G and Neogaf will find ways to spin this into a negative somehow. LOL

[andibandit]

Yeah i bet the headset can monitor brainwave activity, article is jusr around the corner

[Crazay]

LOL. Well played sir. I was thinking the same thing. This is a huge win for anyone looking to pick up on day one since I fully expect that there won't be any adapters for people like myself who have high end sets right away.

[n4rc]

They have already confirmed they are making an adaptor for current headsets... Don't people look into things before bitching about them?

[Crazay]

@N4rc

I'm aware that there is an adapter coming. I'm just not convinced it's going to be available on Day One

[n4rc]

Its not an item that requires tons of r&d man... 4 months is way more then is needed..

It may not come bundled but will be available at launch.. That's my bet

Its welcome.. 2.5mm analog audio is incredibly outdated... New gen deserves better audio quality..

Besides.. When do accessories carry over between product generations? Not very often... Its one of those things where people hate on everything ms does even when its been done 1000 times before by others to no outcry..

[Crazay]

@n4rc

I'm not crapping on MS. lol. I've been a very vocal supporter but I think that given the sheer number of high-end headsets(which, for the most part, are still a relatively NEW accessory category) that are now available that use Blutooth, many of us who purchased these expensive accessories felt that the future of their use was all but a certainty because of that connectivity. I think that's been a big reason why so many people have been pissed off about it.

Noone really batted an eye before at the need to purchase new accessories. The types of accessories was limited in the past to controllers and maybe memory cards..controllers gave way to new more accurate controllers with more buttons, memory cards gave way to mass storage in the form of HDD. Why would anyone complain about that type of innovation? What's the purpose in not supporting Blutooth connectivity for high end headsets? My guess is to limit the amount of money each XBox that sells has to give over to license owners of that technology...I'm sure they hate the fact that they pay fees to Sony for Bluray.

[Foxgod]

November, I want it soooner, but i can handle the wait.
I am glad i pre ordered and paid, at least i avoid the risk of not being able to get one this year.

[SuperLupe]

Same here man, definately my first next gen console. The PS4 can wait.

[Neoninja]

Shame you got all those disagrees cause you prefer to have the X1 first. Darn freaking shame!

[ZodTheRipper]

^Shame? Why?
Either someone agrees with him or not, just as the PS4 can wait for you the Xbone can wait for other people.

[No_Limit]

Second thought, this might be fake as I couldn't find any other articles on the net regarding this and somehow electronictheatre has the info? Either way it doesn't affect me but I still don't buy into this rumor until we get further confirmation. Keeping my fingers cross.

[Kayant]

If this is true then well done Microsoft.... Now all that is left is for the Kinect requirement to be lifted for people who don't want or need it and self publishing on the xbox one then picking a next-gen system will be more about preference on games, controller and system features even thought the are quite identical for the most part. But I personally still will get a ps4 as I miss the variety of exclusive games from different genres and am tired of being so shooter centric. Need more RPG's in my life :)

Again Microsoft well done for coming back to your senses if this is true.

[Crazay]

I'm not pinning the blame on Mattrick but I can't help but wonder if he was the final say on all the things that people have gripes about and now that he's leaving, the higher ups are saying " fix this mess".

[DARK WITNESS]

Or.... they are using his leaving as an excuse to to do a 180 on all the crap they tried and that way people will think it was his fault when infact it was not.

Truth is we will never know.

however, I am glad they are changing for the better. I mean what is the point complaining about this stuff if people still bash them once they have done what people asked in the first place.

I still don't trust them and I am sticking with getting the ps4 but it is looking more likely I will get a ps4 as a secondary console.

[Kayant]

I see what you mean ;)... I think it's a bit of both. It's reminds me of the Windows 8 situation because the reason the start button was taken out was because of the exec atm but once he left you can see that Windows 8.1 is want Windows 8 should have be.

The Guy was happy he made the decision to remove the start button what a douchebag.

http://www.theregister.co.u...

Edit - Agreed @DARK WITNESS

[B-radical]

Hope it's true

[Ksar]

Great news !

[GodGinrai]

good to see em come to their senses on this. The X360 came with a headset and so should the X1.

[KillrateOmega]

Well at least they've done something right. Now if we could just do something about Kinect...

[Nocando]

Your not buying it anyway, let it go.

[KillrateOmega]

I wasn't aware that you could predict my future actions, Nostradamus. I'll do as I damn well please.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H...

If they make Kinect optional (through an alternate sku or something), then I'll buy it sooner than I was originally planning. Maybe a year or so after the PS4 launch, instead of the original several years after the PS4 launch that I had in mind.

[tigertom53]

ichope this is true I wont believe until its official from Microsoft.

[demonicale666]

I'm sorry guy's, but i know some people don't wanna see what is right infront of them and what is clear.

Microsoft keep reversing decisions about this Xbox One, is this the console you want to commit all your money to?, the fact they can't make a decision and stick to it.

Infact ALL the xbox one decisions they have made from the start have been terrible.

If this was'nt the case, then they would'nt see a need to keep reversing decisions.

Just shows how the xbox division is run in MS, and me, well i won't put any money into a gaming company i have no trust or faith in atall.

[CrossingEden]

because no company in the history of ever has ever reversed a decision -____-
when i've seen YOU specifically complaining about the policies and now you're saying they can't stick with a policy!!

[Thomper]

Would rather this than a company who are not willing to be flexible.

[demonicale666]

I'd rather a company who thinks of the PEOPLE FIRST.Take Sony for a perfect example, they've done everything right as they respect their customers.

[Thomper]

@deomicale666

The same Sony who profiteered by forcing overpriced proprietary memory cards on Vita owners, like myself?

Wake up kid.

[Nocando]

Then don't. Go on a PS4 related article and talk about how awesome it is, and leave MS out of the discussion if they are so terrible.

[demonicale666]

This is a gaming website, i don't just play one system i play many, i'm not some fanboy i say how i see thing's .. if you are'nt happy with that then that's fine, but i'm entitled to an opinion.

[stage88]

This thing is trying to be a PS4.

[Geezus]

or a way more powerful 360 with tv functionality and multitasking capabilities!

[N8]

That's the problem I have with it. You went from trying to be innovative as people put it to the ps4 in a month.

[VforVideogames]

and the p4 is trying to be X-1 by now including the camera.

[demonicale666]

It does'nt include the camera, please get your facts right before posting.

[coolasj]

Good. It seems they are doing less despicable stuff now that the shakeup is going on.

[eSlave]

That's good news !

[oscarcat59]

The thing I am wondering if I got a ps3 why would I buy a ps4. It seems to me the same thing but prettier graphics and some new games. The xbox one has far more potential than the ps4 at this time. With the operating sytem, Kinect, server support and yes hdmi pass through I see a greater value. If 100 hundred dollar difference is your biggest deciding factor maybe you cannot afford either. And then people cry they don't like what ms is doing so ms listens and changes then the same people cry saying they are too whimsical? How many idiots do we have on here? The only reason I am buying a ps4 is for games and the xbox for games, Kinect, online, apps, Skype, multitasking and yes the tv features.

[stage88]

I believe the PS exclusives are worth getting the PS4 alone. Plus whatever Naughty Dog make means I have to buy the hardware to play it.

All this online, apps, Skype, multitasking BS can be done on any other device so why would I want to pay for it again?

[oscarcat59]

So can games on a computer I am sure you have one so why buy a console? Oh and games on a phone everyone seems to have one. Not a good argument. I like having everything in one piece of equipment so I can get rid of the the rest of the crap I got. But saying I like the exclusives on the Ps4 is a far better argument. That is the only thing the ps4 to me offers above the ps3.

[VforVideogames]

Its better with KINECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kayant]

The Ps4 os also has multitasking not in the same way as Microsoft implementation but you can switch between activities like in this video where he switches from a video back to the game. Basic but it's still multitasking :)

And HDMI in a.k.a tv features will only work in America at launch. Dedicated servers for all multiplayer games is a big plus thought.

[oscarcat59]

Those are good points and yes I will be getting both machines. Both will have great games. The ps4 for the games it offers and xbox one for the games and Kinect which I hope it works as advertised. Each will have its strengths and weakness and only buying one will mean just having half the fun.

[kewlkat007]

@oscarcat59 - I think you are correct. Besides the prettier graphics with the Ps4, I still think they have some of the better first-party titles(depending on what you play)..

The Ps4 to me, is more and extension of the PS3. Whatever you liked on the PS3, well you can expect the same on the PS4 but better.

The Xbox is trying to be a "jack of all trades" and I thought they would lack in the games department but they shows some good games at E3. I think, the Xbox has more technology surroundings it ecosystem.(kinect, cloud, Tv connectivity, speech recognition, skype integration..etc) If the games are there in the long run, it will be a great console.

[xActionBasturdx]

That is exactly what I've been saying since e3. I'd rather pay the extra $100 to get more features and more room for innovation now that the kinect is a requirement for the console rather than an optional add-on. I'll admit I don't current own a kinect because nothing really came out that interested me to get it. But now that its part of the system it'll allow devs to allocate more resources to implement 'kinectivity' in their games. Unlike sony who took out their PS eye to lower the cost and hinder the experience of games cause now devs aren't going to put much time in implementing its use. Yea sony have the touch pad but how far can you go with just the touch pad? Honestly i think sony took a step in the wrong direction and can possibly hurt them in the long run. Microsoft took their lumps but they still have enough time to correct themselves one step at a time and this proves it even further

[solidworm]

Teh XBONE 180.......D.O.A.

[VforVideogames]

The G A Ystation4 .......D.O.A.

[MasterCornholio]

The immature fanboys of N4G

:)

Motorola RAZR i

[xActionBasturdx]

Yes!!! It is coming with a headset. Thank you based god :)

[devwan]

Is it?

[cabbitwithscissors]

Debunked. https://twitter.com/Rob_Cro...

[Iltapalanyymi]

P-p-please buy our console

[The Meerkat]

Confirmed*

*subject to change and U-turn.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

reverse the mandatory Kinect....

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I would like official confirmation first besides a distributor.

[S2Killinit]

I guess the pre order numbers are still hurting them, they have to dig deeper into that vast Microsoft pocket.

[demonicale666]

People these day's never seem to surprise me how much of a sheep mentality they have.

Microsoft can come and slap you guys and gals around all year round, and your still buy and lap up all the crap they throw at you!.

I've no problem with Microsoft, but i do have a problem when a company does'nt respect it's consumer base.

[dark-hollow]

No company (or very rarely) truly respect the customers. They respect your wallet, and if slapping us was in theory made profit for them they will do it in a heartbeat.

[mochachino]

Lol at xbox 180.

[devwan]

Is it a 180 or a 360 or was it never even a change at all?

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...

[Relientk77]

How bout they just reverse everything then they'll be good lol

[NeoTribe]

Microsoft is screwed regardless. Sonyhas pretty much bagged this victory. Im just happy the people i know are finally switching to the ps4. Anyone that can trust a company like microsoft after all this retarded nonsense belongs on xbox.

[danthebios]

Ps4 won the next gen sorry M$ hahaha.

[plaZeHD]

It hasn't even begun.

[NeoTribe]

Doesn't need to. Microsoft forfeit at e3.

[plaZeHD]

Smart move Microsoft. They know that Sony can't release Playstation 4 on september. Very smart move.

[urwifeminder]

I am looking forward to my day one console on another note just got back from the hospital my first child was born got very hands on the single most amazing experience I have ever been apart of seeing a life enter the world wow a dad at 40 so happy.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Congrats,..

[DivineAssault]

Whats wrong M$? You guys had it all planned out before & now your changing things? I thought you guys were going to KILL sony @ E3 but it seems like the opposite happened.. Now your reversing the DRM, reversing the decision not to have a headset, whats next? Going to take kinect out of the box & no longer make it required?? lol Doesnt matter, the world sees your true GREEN colors.. Greedy ass company is now in panic

[vigilante_man]

Baroness Thatcher (ex UK Prime Minister) is turning in her grave at the thought of more U-turns!!!

Her famous speech in the house of commons referring to the many Labour party U-turns "You turn if you want to but the Lady ain't for turning!"

Seems she was a fortune teller to boot..

[solidworm]

Todays U-turn......pathetic Microsoft.

[Flames76]

Keep up the good work microsoft and keep doing the right thing

[TXIDarkAvenger]

More and more MS reverses their stuff. Sure its a good move but it just shows how pathetic MS is and why they didn't do this stuff in the first place. I like the One's lineup of games but MS decisions are just poor and then they go back on their word. It's really hard to trust them now...I'll definitely be getting a PS4 first.

On a related note, did MS really think that using a kinect as a mic while little kids say they fucked my mom over Xbox Live through the TV speakers was a good idea? Facepalm MS.

[Brute_Shot_Adam]

I think I'll stick with Xbox One this gen. Seams to be the best choice for me and I think I'll enjoy it more. Plus the games (mainly halo) are what I've always liked, plus the XBL is and voted by many people to be better, regardless of the free games. I could get either of the 3, plus a wicked PC. But I think the next Xbox One will rock.

[Funky Town_TX]

I have ps+ and the games are a rental. No ps+ = no play.

[NeoTribe]

Atleast ps plus gets free games, and tons of them. Not corny little arcade games either. Ps plus owns live by a longshot. Fact.

[samekratos]

noob's

[TalonJH]

Someone needs to update the article. Gem made a mistake. It actually isn't coming with the system. That being said, no matter what console you own, you should buy a nice headset. Including one is great for when you first make your console purchase but do yourself a favor.

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

[TBONEJF]

STILL TOO DAMN EXPENSIVES plus it can't play USED GAMES.

[TalonJH]

It does play used games now.

[TBONEJF]

They're going too loose this next generation anyway even if it does play USED GAMES

[AceBlazer13]

honestly i don't see how people can actually go back to microsoft.im no fan or anything and i never had intentions of getting the console but after someone tries to bullshit you in so many ways it's kinda intriguing to me how many people are actually willing to buy the console

[Funky Town_TX]

Like Sony has never changed a console before launch. If they change the Kinect thing then I may pass on PS4.

[Funantic1]

I know X1 fans are catching up. 2 weeks ago it was pure hatred towards the X1. Now the comments are looking a lot better. Imagine in 5 months.

[DarkBlood]

would be great for a bundle without a kinect, but i doubt it at this point