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Xbox One: forgive & forget?

Metro - As GC already alluded to I previously wrote a feature that, in light of Microsoft’s unprecedented U-turn on Wednesday – or 180 which is the trend du jour – my rally call to boycott Xbox One is no longer applicable. Or is it? I shall come to that in due course. Do understand I wasn’t attempting a William Wallace style call to arms, and there was absolutely no mention of ‘freedom’. In summary, I attempted to provide justifiable reasons why we shouldn’t support Xbox One, with the aim to help intensify the pressure on Microsoft.

solidmic3948d ago

No!!!! In fact people should demand much more from these greedy sob's while they are on the ropes. They've been gouging gamers for years!

aLucidMind3947d ago (Edited 3947d ago )

Much of what gamers must demand must be done by speaking with our wallets. If we just demand it right now rather than let it be a gradual process, it could lead to gamers being incorrectly perceived as self-entitled pricks trying to bully the poor, poor corporations into respecting their customers and rewarding them for their loyalty. Which is exactly what many producers, developers, and Microsoft wants to happen because then they can just ignore our voice because they're too focused on short-term gain rather than long-term profit.

ZBlacktt3947d ago (Edited 3947d ago )

How can you forgive and forget. The XBox 360 was rushed out the door with a well known defect and cause a massive fail rate. One that marked the greatest fail rate of all time. To now this whole XBox One mess. The only reason there is no DRM and 24hr online is because Sony said it was not going to do that to it's gamers. Other wise you bet it would still be in place. Now the guy who delivered all that bad news in the first place is now jumping ship.... what a train wreck it has become.

No fanboy speak people. No one should put up with this kind of nonsense. No matter what company it is.

Kingthrash3603947d ago

I agree...I look at it like I do all businesses......if I go to a restaurant and find a middle finger in my cat fish sandwich, im not gunna go back there...even if they promise my food will be finger free and its under new management....I will need some references to even consider the thought of forgiving.

ZBlacktt3947d ago

I agree and laughed at the example given. :D

n4rc3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

Ummm... Forgive what?

u people seem to forget that as usual, its the vocal minority that is listened to.

Many people had no issue with what ms was doing.. Don't act like the whole world felt screwed over..

Most complaints are bullshit debunked rumors spread by fanboys.. The rest is only applicable to a small portion of consumers.. But happy consumers generally don't take to the internet

24h check for diskless play? Awesome.. Haven't been without internet in over a decade..

Kinect is part of the system, not a add on.. Can be turned off but has to be connected to stop kids from trying to sell them.. Also keeps them from having to sell them.

Poor indi support.. Who cares really? They suck 99% of the time.. They don't want their store flooded with fart apps and porn..

You can go on and on

shivvy243946d ago

If you wish to bend over , please wait in line !

B1uBurneR3947d ago

Forgive and remember just don't act as if things didn't get fixed afterwards. 1billion dollars for repair is nothing to scuff at. plus a several remodeled version to fix the issue. we as gamers can't deny that dmr was to help game developers to maximize revenue now we all disagree with the approach do we all disagree with the idea to help out devs?

iceman063946d ago

The issue with your statement is as follows. Developers don't directly see ANY extra money unless it is negotiated up front. It is the PUBLISHERS that stood to gain from extra revenue. For Xbox, that would mostly be third parties like EA and Activision. The 1 billion dollars was nothing to scoff at. But, know that this was far from a "kind" gesture. It was to keep a more costly class action suit from going to fruition.
I'm all for helping the devs to stay afloat. I buy mostly new games. The money that I get from games goes towards more new games. But I am not at the cost of a basic and essential element of the industry...and that is choice.

JBSleek3947d ago

Forgive? Well no even though I find forgiving or not forgiving a consumer electronic strange.

Forget? Easily. Of course people will forget. In the coming months who cares about any of this(talking about the majority). People in general usually care when something happens for a month or so and let it wither away.

Godmars2903947d ago

Would have had to trust them with my "gaming experience" in the first place.

Something I honestly haven't done since the first Xbox.

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke195h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke1953m ago(Edited 49m ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf2h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave2h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor47m ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke1952m ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai3h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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