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Microsoft thought they owned Donkey Kong

According to former Rare employee and “Conker’s Bad Fur Day” director, Chris Seavor, Microsoft mistakenly thought they owned the Donkey Kong franchise after they bought Rare.

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gamer423946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

This makes me appreciate the fact that we're getting another donkey kong country from Retro even more. Because if microsft did end up owning DK, we wouldn't be seeing much of him.

UNGR3946d ago

You know that how exactly? DK is a huge franchise, Microsoft would milk it if anything.

Jagsrock3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

@UNGR
He knows because Banjo-Kazooie.

gamer423946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

Banjo-Kazooie was a big franchise as well, but we don't see much of them now do we? Except for a game that left a majority of fans disappointed, Microsoft hasn't taken advantage of any of Rare's major Ips. Killer Instinct is a step in the right direction, but whether it's good or not is yet to be known.

FlyingFoxy3946d ago

Well they milked Halo, which wasn't even special in the first place.. already has more sequels than Half Life or Doom.

husomc3946d ago

They'd make a Donkey Kong & Master Chief save the world game

SilentNegotiator3946d ago

Darn, I was really hoping to see "Donkey Kong: Forced XBL and Kinect Features, and Bolts"

/s

Thank God Nintendo retained that IP.

blacktiger3946d ago

He knows because Killer Instinct. My favourite game of all time became my graveyard. Or at least forgotten :(

abzdine3945d ago

Soon they will think that they own Zelda.

Facepalm

slaton243945d ago

ok look how long for killer instinct it took missing a whole generation just to finally do a game...I think donkey kong would have been shelved because so many gamers on 360 were mostly into shooters I may be wrong but its my opinion.

southernbanana3945d ago

@Flying fox. That is the most ridiculous comment I have read on here in a while..

karl3945d ago

im sorry but the only one who can make a donkey kong game is nintendo..

it needs certain magic that only nintendo has...

Shane Kim3945d ago

@karl

To be honest though, every DK game worth playing and wich became popular has been made by rareware. The 80's Nintedo DK games are pretty mediocre,.

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LackTrue4K3946d ago

im not even a fan of Donkey Kong, but im glad they did not get them.....what a bunch of morons! lol...

thebigman3945d ago

Rare isn't even developing KI, it's being outsourced to another company. Rare will never be the company they were

Smashbro293945d ago

Miyamoto made up a generic gorilla but the DK we know today that fights crocodiles for bananas and wears a tie was made by Rare.

thecurseddevil3945d ago

lol.
they would have made a kinect donkey kong.

Syntax-Error3945d ago

How many Kinect games did you see @ E3?

Blachek3945d ago

That Wii Bongo version of Donkey Kong was a ton of fun

itBourne3945d ago

Microsoft isnt even letting Rare do the Killer Instinct game either. Lol poor rare, altough Im sure at this point rare is just a name, I cant imagine most of the original employees have stayed there.

BDSE3945d ago

None of them are there.

Syntax-Error3945d ago

Seriously? No one from the original Rare is there. They gave it to a new team that was ambitious and hungry. Rare had a shot and look what they did to Perfect Dark Zero. They just didnt have what it took to be what they were. Some developers regress and Rare was one of them. Killer Instinct took a long time because of legal issues, it wasn't because of MS. When MS was granted the IP the first thing they did was secure the domain name.

Veneno3945d ago

As ridiculous as that is, my xbot buddy thinks you can download mario games from xbox live and he believes Microsoft own EA. I try my hardest to educate him but I think he likes deluding himself.

jeffgoldwin3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

Maybe he's thinking all of his Ron Jeremy videos are Mario irl.

It's a me MARIO: http://ronjeremy.com/

HonestDragon3945d ago

Can't say you don't try. He isn't the only Xbox owner to think Mario is available on the 360.

wastedcells3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

They must of over paid for rare then if they thought DK was part of the deal lol. I joke. Did they think they got golden eye too.

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DarkBlood3946d ago

HA lol

As the terminator said in the gunshop "Wrong"

Enemy3946d ago

Well, they do own Killer Instinct, which for some reason "adapted" the same exact art style from Street Fighter 4.

sAVAge_bEaST3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

yea, but donkey kong is a totally different beast.
born in the arcade by nintendo, -gave birth to mario, and the princess.
This is Nintendo[s baby, and how M$ thought they could just buy it ,, is hilarious,.
(rare developed KI)

Gamerchik873946d ago

Your hilarious lol are u on this site all day?? Are u getting paid by sony to rag on M.S all day? U have something negative to say on just about every subject that has to do with M.S or u will find a way to involve M.S into your comments lol CRAZY!!

InTheLab3946d ago

@gamerchik

Until MS earns back the respect of gamers, that deserve every bit of static they receive. They have accomplished nothing in this industry with third and last place finishes for a few console gens but are somehow arrogant enough to try and screw over loyal customers. The last few months has shown the world that MS is a s$$$ company that throws piles of cash at problems instead of fixing them and is willing to inconvenience consumers at every turn.

After the xbone, ALL MS hate is justified.

As for the topic, MS did what they always do. Drop a huge chunk of cash and hope for the best.All they got in return is Conker and a depleted Rare that's really in name only.

Imalwaysright3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

Donkey Kong was the 1st platformer ever made and it is without any doubt one of the most influential and revolutionary games ever made. Donkey Kong's legacy is much bigger than just Mario or Peach. Donkey Kong is the "father" of every platforming game ever made.

sAVAge_bEaST3946d ago

w0e , calm down there REP.manager. , I'm just keeping it real,,
not my fault. M$ makes daily mistakes.

b3ast3945d ago

gamerchik is there anything good to say about MS? and WTF has DK to do with Sony, you must feel threaten you silly fangirl!

glennco3945d ago

One exec!?! Surely not even a rabid fanboy can delude themselves into thinking one naive exec equals an entire company. You are delusional like any other fanboy. This site is getting unbearable.

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Darrius Cole3946d ago

Donkey Kong is the first appearance of Mario. Anyone who thought that Microsoft could possibly have bought it should not be working in the Xbox division of Microsoft.

Syntax-Error3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

What does Donkey Kong have to do with Mario? Just because Mario was in the original game has nothing to do with the character Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong can be sold without Mario you dummy. If Rare bought the Donkey Kong IP and MS bought it from them then DK would be owned by MS. Learn something. Did you see Mario in Donkey Kong Country? No, so why would one have anything to do with the other? How old are you? It wasn't MS that thought they owned DK, it was some idiot thinking they did because of Rare's name on the DKC poster. Same can be said when morons in here make dumb assumptions

callahan093945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

@Syntax-Error

His point wasn't that Nintendo couldn't sell the Donkey Kong IP without selling Mario, it was that they WOULDN'T! Donkey Kong was Nintendo's first major successful release in the video game industry and it is one of the most iconic games and IPs of all time. Anybody who thought Nintendo would sell that IP without doing a complete firesale of the entir company's assets was being delusional.

Syntax-Error3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

Now you're over-thinking the comment. NOWHERE in his comment did it say what you said. He said "DK is the first appearance of Mario.." He didnt mention anything about DK being Nintendo's first major hit. Stop thinking for someone else and worry about why you're sounding like a fanboy trying to sugarcoat his ignorance. Also, you don't know what they would do concerning an IP. Miyamoto wasn't part of DKC and Rare made the game NOT Nintendo, so don't think Nintendo is exclusive with its IP's

yewles13946d ago

This has got to be a joke...

PeaSFor3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

after all, the douche majornelson also said that MGS5 was XBONE exclusive...... so yeah....

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christian hour3945d ago

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PeaSFor3945d ago

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badboy7763946d ago

yewles1 I'm just glad they don't!!!!

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.