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PS4 Has No Power Brick, Size is “Very Close to the 2nd Gen PS3, and PS4 is Slimmer”, Says Shuhei

"Quick to remind everyone that it doesn't have one, Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios, said, "The power is inside, so no brick outside."" - PSLS

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doctorstrange3945d ago

It really does look like a 2nd gen console, how did they manage to keep it so sleek?!

abzdine3945d ago

Damn! they manage to make it so small from the first version!!
so maybe PS4 slim will be as slim as PStwo? I am amazed, really!

gaffyh3945d ago

Smaller and more powerful than the Xbox One, and no power brick. Just shows you the level of Sony as a hardware company compared to MS.

N4GCB3945d ago

A slim ps4 as slim as a ps2 would be great, but i imagine it's pretty jam packed as it is currently.

Need4Game3944d ago

Made Xbox One look more like a Brick.

Sitdown3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

How come some of you can't just enjoy the ps4 on its on merit, instead of always having to bring up the xbox one. It's like you are obsessed with the xbox one, and then wonder while the trolls show up. The PS4 is nice. Period.

silenius3944d ago

once again... thank you. :)

mistertwoturbo3944d ago

People need to stop insulting a Brick by calling it an Xbox One.

I'll tell you, an Xbox One isn't going to be used to build houses with.

wastedcells3944d ago

Sony makes all kinds of great products and this really helps make playstation special.

CryofSilence3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

That's really impressive how they kept that small form factor with an internal power source.

I would liken the Xbox One to a VCR more than I would a brick.

alien6263944d ago

The on,y reason m$ when with a big system was for the future they could release smaller versions of the system. That somehow brings more money. Look at Sony they done it many times. Sony is starting small and slick and now I can't imagine how smaller could the ps4 could get. M$ made big and I bet a lot of space in it

GribbleGrunger3944d ago

The design is familiar but modern:

http://img.photobucket.com/...

Now give me a variation on the PS2 boot up sound and I'll die a happy man.

thereapersson3944d ago

But they might be used to burn one down... ;-)

#trolling

The_Con-Sept3944d ago

I'd like to see the PS4 get smaller... But what would it look like?

Groo3944d ago

and by the Power of Greyskull

gaffyh3944d ago

@Sitdownn - "It's like you are obsessed with the xbox one, and then wonder while the trolls show up."

You're right, because you showed up.

But to answer your question, both consoles are part of a new generation, and a launching at around the same time, so it's natural that there will be comparisons. The same thing happened with the PS3 and 360, and the Xbox and PS2, so don't see what is so bad about it.

If you're sad that PS4 is coming off as better than the Xbone, then that's your problem, and no one else's. I'm not saying you're wrong to want to purchase an Xbone, in fact I am considering getting one late next year, but early PS3 owners got the same stick from fanboys, and there was MORE of a reason to own a PS3 at that time i.e. cheapest blu-ray player on the market, and Sony's proven track record when it comes to games.

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karl3944d ago

that reminded me of the south park city sushi episode

"kinda like pearl harbor.... that was sneaky too"

Qrphe3945d ago

Good engineering, graphical power and internal power supply all in that compact box is a great feat.

majiebeast3945d ago

THE POWER ZEH CLOWDS! No wait thats the other company good engineering and design i reckon.

clrlite3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

"TeH power of public relations gimmicks!"...

Sony is bringing us quality products as usual while others depen mainly on advertising.

I_am_Batman3945d ago

That's what I was asking myself since the E3 conference. Maybe someone at Sony invented the shrink ray.

Godmars2903945d ago

They had several years of development time. Were likely thinking about it since the PS3 suffered all of it's backlash.

Foolsjoker3945d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

I think Mark Cerny is a wizard, how else would they fit it all in that tiny box?

JoGam3944d ago

Im my Italian voice.... "Its in there". ;-)

Narutone663944d ago

Must be related to Harry Potter.

RBdrift3944d ago

Well,don't think Cerny had a say in design, because he explained that he didn't want to see the the PS4 design tell E3.

elhebbo163944d ago

dont give cerny ALL the credit, I'm sure there was some hardworking japanese dude behind it as well.

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Cernunnos3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

the CPU is clocked a lot lower than on the PS3, so that helps a lot with heat aswell. Coupled with a smaller die size.

SniperControl3944d ago

Ok, one thing I dont get, the PS4 is more powerful and has an internal PSU. On the other hand the X1 is less powerful, the size of a 80's betamax player with an external PSU.
What the hell is in side the X1?

Gardenia3944d ago

In every Xbox One is a Microsoft employee who is there to collect your money every time you turn on the system

I_am_Batman3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

Rocket science-level stuff.

sic_chops3944d ago

Haha... A big empty space with vents on half of the top. Might as well just cut a hole in the top. Sure it would stay cool then.

Narutone663944d ago

MS got burned with the RROD fiasco, so they anticipated and wanted to prevent that from happening again.

Vip3r3944d ago

It needs all that space for the clouds. I mean, are you a developer and have you SEEN titanfall?

LeRise3944d ago

You can see it by yourself: http://i.imgur.com/Ibb0e6j....

Empty space here we go!
I'd mention another thing: PS4 has 8 cores @ 2 GHz, XBONE has 8 cores @ 1.6 GHz, still larger.

clrlite3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

Mostly shredded newspaper/packing foam and several liters of mountain dew.

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jeffgoldwin3944d ago

Small with no power brick? That is amazing. However, it is ugly as sin as far as the design shape.

T23944d ago

I don't really see how its ugly, its just a black box and thank god it's slim... looks a bit like a shape of some kind at least.

Ugly would be like a gamecube, or a sphere that just rolled off your stand. it should be slim and level, and fit within your mounting space. black matches most other electronics, safe color - stick a bunch of stickers on it if you want color...

Not sure what would have been better? The odd contour here and there or vent or bump means nothing....

R6ex3944d ago

I love the heavily-ventilated rear view of the PS4.

So sleek!

elhebbo163944d ago

I rather have a cool rhombus shape than an typical design.

GenericNameHere3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

I'm blind!!. Where do you insert the disc??!! All I see are 2 USB ports. Is the disc tray somewhere between the two covers? The middle part's so dark, I can barely see anything.

Btw, no more little PS logo? :'(

LeRise3944d ago

GenericNameHere, here you go, Hi-res photos of PS4.
http://www.flickr.com/photo...

elhebbo163944d ago

@genereic we haven't had classic PS logos since the PS3 slim unfortunately.

karl3944d ago

thx for the hr photos.. the new dualshock looks impressive..

never seen the back till this pictures..

the texture looks really comfortable... and it has many interesting details..

im sure it will fit really well in my hands

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LocutusEstBorg3944d ago

There are 15" laptops with 10x the power of the PS4. It's not a big deal.

Hicken3944d ago

No there aren't. Especially not for the same price.

Persistantthug3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

A Radeon HD 7970M is the highest end Mobile (laptop) GPU that AMD has available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

JoeReno3944d ago

Borg must be somewhere out of left field, like your comment.
-1 off topic

elhebbo163944d ago

1) no there isn't.
2) even if there was, it would cost 2 to 3 times more than a PS4.
3) developers optimize there games to the fullest on console so even if the Laptop is technically stronger you could still get the same or even better visual fidelity.

jeffgoldwin3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

1.) Optmization wont be as huge of a difference for next gen compared with pc counterparts, since both consoles are using the same architecture as pc (x86).
2.) Laptop parts are a good amount slower than desktop versions (due do heat/power issues).
3.) Overall, cheaper initial price of consoles, soon catches up to paid online and more expensive games (but that's kind of subjective because you can find sales and bargain bins).
4.) All gamers will benefit from next gen (well unless you cant afford it).

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ziggurcat3944d ago

i'm curious to see what the slim version of this system is going to look like...

ramiuk13944d ago

the xbone power brick will b bigger than ps lol.
i jsut hope they have good cooling in it and we dont have heat issues

jeffgoldwin3944d ago

or yylod or firmware bricking

HugoDrax3944d ago

Funny you say that, because the XB1 doesn't have a power brick. So now you sound like a fanboy with that comment.

ramiuk13941d ago (Edited 3941d ago )

@AuricGoldfinger
it dont need a power brick though really,look at the size of it,
the reason it does all the tv stuff is because its so big u cant fit anything else on tv stand with it.

by the way i had a 360 since launch(well 5 due to rrod)and i have a ps3 for a few months so i assure you i love my 360,just ps4 gone gamers way and not entertainment.

jon12343944d ago

it was created by god to see who would be the best to command his forces!

SDS Gamerfiend3944d ago

Sony has really impressed me with the PS4! Feels good to be appreciated as a true hard core gamer!

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Relientk773945d ago

The consoles design, is just flawless

it looks like an advanced PS2

Thefreeman0123945d ago

Disagree with me if you will but i just find that the PS4 looks cheap to me...i honestly think both consoles look quite dull

orakle443945d ago

I dont think either look cheap, but they do both look dull to me as well, but i do prefer the ps4.

riseer233944d ago

I will kindly disagree with you.I love the Ps4 design as i stated before.It reminds me of the fat Ps2.I think the Xboxone looks something like the current 360 and a cable box.I won't trash on it tho,the only thing that matters to me fewer fail rates.I am buying a Ps4 tho,i skipped the 360 and most likely miss out on One.

elhebbo163944d ago

please explain, I would like to here why.

T23944d ago

No it looks like a piece of electronics hardware... You dont just go making a random, obtuse shape that one person likes , you make a generic shape that appeals to as many people as possible.... Man ppl here have no business sense

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TheOneWithTheWolf3944d ago

The first thing that came to my mind at the reveal was that design-wise it borrows a lot from the recent Sony XPERIA line. Which in my book is brilliant, those phones are SEXY!

KillrateOmega3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

More powerful, smaller, and no power brick. It also harkens to the appearance of the PS2 and you don't need me to tell you just how successful THAT console was.

You gotta love Sony's hardware expertise :)

ftwrthtx3945d ago

Looks a lot like the black Wii in size. Is it close to that?

Skate-AK3944d ago

No. It's bigger than a Wii. Here is a comparison chart.

http://www.psmania.net/wp-c...

Harmonizer3944d ago

Sorry sir, but that chart fails to mention anything wii related

Game4life3944d ago

but that doesnt show a wii u or wii.

sAVAge_bEaST3944d ago

at least xbox One something,.. size.

Sevir3944d ago

The Wii and Wii U are both Smaller than the PS3/4 and Xbone/360 revisions... The size comparisons alone shows you that.

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ThatCanadianGuy5143945d ago

I don't know how they did it.Smaller, more powerful, sleeker and cheaper.Without even using a power brick.That is just embarrassing for MS.

They must be into some deep satanic black magic over at Sony HQ.

HammadTheBeast3945d ago

I don't understand how they put a power brick inside that small thing when Xbox can't fit it inside the huge case.

ThanatosDMC3944d ago

It'd be more ridiculous if the Xbone has heat problems and the PS4 runs cool.

Why o why3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

The 360 did overheat WITH a power brick.....not making this up I swear

jeffgoldwin3944d ago (Edited 3944d ago )

They didn't overheat because of power supply or heat issues. Was due to poor soldering which lead to failure (mostly). And I see it said some failures look to have been from some crappy quality parts too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Angeljuice3944d ago

@jeffgoldwin

Poor soldering only tends to 'let go' when things overheat. This is what would happen with the YLOD. I have fixed many PS3's, with the earlier ones the fan tends to stop working at the faster rate, with the newer versions they generally have poorly applied thermal paste. Both problems end up causing the system to overheat which softens the solder to the point that it breaks away from the component. But the point is they have to get very hot for this to happen.

The fix is to apply heat at a specific temp (300-350c) to a perfectly level motherboard which re-flows the solder to contact the components.

I have never taken a 360 apart, so I would like to know if it's the same fix for the Xbox, can anyone enlighten me on that?

moparful993944d ago

@JeffGoldwin The solder wasn't the cause of the overheating.. It was the victim.. Microsoft had a very poor design with the initial 360 with minimal vents, a cramped case, and an awful pc fan led to the overheating which in turn cause the solder and thermal paste to fail leading to the RROD..

dredgewalker3944d ago

@moparful
Nope the tin solder used that replaced the lead solder is the primary culprit in a lot of hardware failures. It just doesn't like heat too well. I've had a laptop die on me with the same problem. I'd really love to strangle the guy who thought of replacing lead with tin solder.

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Building Final Fantasy XVI with Producer Naoki Yoshida | AIAS Game Maker's Notebook Podcast

Shuhei Yoshida chats with FINAL FANTASY XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida.

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PS5 Exec Doesn't Want To See Gaming's Future Dominated By Live-Service Games: "Boring"

PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.

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Obscure_Observer352d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole352d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90352d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit352d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils352d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie352d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj352d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde352d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor352d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138351d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_351d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881350d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit352d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992352d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64352d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992352d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot352d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992351d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64352d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot352d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz351d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades352d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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The face of PlayStation: Shuhei Yoshida on the joy and future of video games

He’s been at PlayStation since the beginning, and seen the games industry transform beyond recognition. He talks unlikely successes, AI, and gaming’s future.

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Workshyskiver357d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope357d ago (Edited 357d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje357d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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