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Shuhei Yoshida: Hopefully PS4′s DualShock 4 Sticks Won’t Get Slimy, Stand Confirmed Separate

Ever left your DualShock 2 or 3 unattended for a while only to find the analog sticks covered by a sticky, yucky, slimy substance that seemed to come from nowhere and was really hard to remove? Many experienced that annoying surprise. Yoshida hopes it won't happen, and confirms that the console's stand will be sold separate.

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majiebeast3946d ago

Worst thing was the gunk in the crevices of the controller. its a chore to clean that.

Abriael3946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

Am I wrong or the new one seems to have much smaller crevices too due to the rubber gloving?

I'm just hoping that rubber won't get slimy too lol.

teknx3946d ago

Come on Yoshida-san, You know that when you have Doritos fingers you always clean your hands before touching the controller. That's Gamer101.

AngryTypingGuy3945d ago

I've never had this problem with my PS3 or 360 controllers. Didn't even know it existed.

RumbleFish3945d ago

I really don't want to imagine, what people do with their controllers...

Relientk773946d ago

Yea I clean the crevices on my PS1-PS3 controllers every once in a while, its gross.

I use toothpicks lol

JRH77833946d ago

That's all the dirt and grease from your friends hands. I use the same method as you.

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karl3946d ago

yeah its start pouring that goo out of nowhere

almost as if it was a living thing

thawind3946d ago

Wow I thought I was the only one that used toothpicks.Sigh...small world.

Godlovesgamers3946d ago

Toothpicks... Not a bad idea.

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Blackdeath_6633946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

clean it during loading screen (of which there are many) i started doing that and now my controller looks less dirty every time i use it. hairpins work best toothpicks are too thick and break easy

also @Kratos_Kills i thought i was the only one who had dirt in the controller i feel less self conscious about it now, can't help getting sweaty palms when your busy hacking and slashing away at mythological greek gods while desperately attempting not to fall off the map because of the deceiving camera angle

wastedcells3946d ago

My controllers are spotless. Am I weird or something lol. Never had to clean mine other then blow some dust off once in a blue moon

HowarthsNJ3945d ago

Yeah the slime thing is a new one to me.

FamilyGuy3945d ago

That stuff is like rubber sweat, it seeps from the rubber itself, not from the greasy fingers that touched it. It only really shows up when you don't use the controller for a long time.

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theWB273946d ago

That's weird...I've never had that problem with my PS3 controllers.

miyamoto3946d ago

And my PS3 Slim stands perfectly well behind my swiveling HD TV.

Cryptcuzz3946d ago

I never had that problem as well.

The longest I haven't played on my PS3 was for about a month when Starcraft 2 came out and did not notice any slimy substance on the analog sticks.

Are people sure its not their pet dog or cat licking the analog sticks without them knowing?

theWB273946d ago

I was thinking something like that..or bad is their room not very airy or what. My extra controller sits for longer than that and I pick it up and..nothing.

Testfire3946d ago

Or...people need to stop jerking it then touching the controller.

Game4life3946d ago

i had this one my ps3 but never my ps3 controllers., maybe i just dont not use it enough lol

Cryptcuzz3946d ago

Another possible explanation would be is those who have experienced this slimy substance has excessive sweaty hands (hyperhydrosis)

Then when they are done playing, the excessive sweat is still on the analog sticks mixed with the natural oil on our fingertips and I can see why there would be a slimy substance still left on the sticks after awhile.

hellzsupernova3946d ago

I believe that's cause of the concave sticks, the 360 controller I have noticed does get a bit sweaty especially once it's worn down and the little nubs are missing

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tigertron3946d ago

I actually thought I was the only one who experienced the slimy stuff on the analogue sticks. It happened with my PS2 and original Sixaxis controller. I thought it was some sort of leak. XD

Abriael3946d ago

Yep, for a while I did as well, they I discovered a lot of people did. I still have absolutely no idea of what causes it really, and google never helped. There are theories, but no confirmed info.

Abriael3946d ago

@majiebeast: really? that would make sense, but how does it get all the way on *top* of the sticks?

majiebeast3946d ago

No clue.

What i did notice is that the slime has only happend with my original sixaxis controller and not with the 2 DS3's i bought 2 or so years after it.

BISHOP-BRASIL3946d ago

I'm pretty sure it's just grease from the rubber caps drying out (decomposing) and leaking. If you ever removed an analog stick cover (not the actual electronics) or looked really closely, you'll notice that the area where you rest your thumbs on is a rubber cap, not part of the plastic rod despite it all looking like a single piece.

Although I had taken DualShocks apart before, I only noticed this rubber detail when a cap in one of my controllers became loose (don't know how or why it unglued though), I pulled it out and none the less there were this half dry goo and slime all around inside the cap.

I won't advise on removing that just out of curiosity though, it's glued with what seens to be cyanoacrylate, so the usual methods to remove this glue (heat, acetone) will also damage the rubber. Also it was hard to both remove and replace the rubber, it needs to be stretched and it looked like it was going to tear (and the end result was not good, it don't spin anymore, but it became all unlevel).

All that trouble trying to put it together was the clue I needed to realize that was actually dry grease and not just oil and dirt. If that's assembled in factory by stretching the cap over the plastic pad (which seens to be the case, it's sure not injected as the inner of the rubber cap don't match the pattern on plastic), they must put some grease there just to easy the stress.

Grease will always eventually decompose, leaving dry residue and leaking oil, in a very progressive and slow process... Heat and preassure/friction (like you moving your warm thumb over it all the time) can speedy up the process, but even time alone will do that, it even starts pretty fast if grease is exposed to air (days to weeks depending on the kind of grease), but take some years if it's correctly sealed (like it looks to be the case with the analog stick).

TotalHitman3945d ago

I'll back @bishop-br on his info. I took apart my Dualshock 3 a couple of months ago. I looked at the analogues after reading this today and there was indeed oil or grease seeping through the rubber.

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MestreRothN4G3946d ago

Hilarious, yet relevant news.

Our reputation can only hope.

Blankolf3946d ago

The dualshock seems to be able or at least trying to prevent that, there's the rubber portion which seems kind of rough, so you can really get a grip on the controller.

Trust me I am an octodad, doesn't get slimier than that.

Skate-AK3946d ago

I laughed so hard when Octodad got announced. That is a must buy for me.

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PS5 Exec Doesn't Want To See Gaming's Future Dominated By Live-Service Games: "Boring"

PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.

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Obscure_Observer354d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole354d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90354d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit354d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils354d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie354d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic354d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj353d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde353d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor353d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138353d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_353d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881351d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit354d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64354d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992354d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot354d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992353d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot354d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64354d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot354d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic354d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades354d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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The face of PlayStation: Shuhei Yoshida on the joy and future of video games

He’s been at PlayStation since the beginning, and seen the games industry transform beyond recognition. He talks unlikely successes, AI, and gaming’s future.

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Workshyskiver359d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope359d ago (Edited 359d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje359d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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