CCP CEO: PS4′s 8GB GDDR5 RAM “to be Important in the Future”, “Hugely Exciting”

Leading up to the PS4′s February reveal, leaks and rumors suggested that the console would include 4GB of GDDR5 RAM, and that’s because, until just before the announcement, that was the plan. - PSLS

[acharlez]

MOAR RAM!

[Sev]

I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more RAM.

[TrendyGamers]

That must be a really weird fever.

[xHeavYx]

But.. But, da powa of da clouds!!
"I’m getting personally very excited for the PlayStation 4. For all the softballs Microsoft is throwing [Sony's] way, they’re knocking them out of the park. "

[ajax17]

Said all the developers!

[iliimaster]

lol classic my main man classic!

[LackTrue4K]

@ trendygamers, ....
"Ten out of ten XboxOne only owners suffer from year to year..."

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

If it is this kind of RAM
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Or this kind
http://www.nflteamhistory.c...

I can completelly understand that!

[GentlemenRUs]

Here's yer RAM!

[thereapersson]

Baaaa RAM Ew!

[Polysix]

Your fever is well catered for with Sony then!

BTW Microsoft have no Cow-Bell, but they sure as hell have plenty of Bull-shit!

[Lior]

What is exciting is my 32gb 3000MHz Vengeance ram

[a08andan]

Please give an example of what you would use 32gb for :)

[Lior]

@a08andan rendering, games etc.

[paranoid1971]

So, you're saying you paid $3000 for ram? That is just retarded
http://www.corsair.com/memo...

[a08andan]

No game in existence requires that amount of RAM. And as far as rendering goes, do tell exactly what kind of rendering you do that require that amount of RAM. I'm sorry if it sounds like I am accusing you of something, but I try to work against the industries false pretense that you need the latest and greatest in everything to enjoy gaming.

[MysticStrummer]

Are PC gamers incredibly insecure before they become PC gamers, or are they made that way by gaming on PC?

[Angeljuice]

Film rendering takes lots of RAM, I use a total of 96gb in my workstation (32gb GDDR5 and 64 GB DDR4 + quadro & tesla cards). You can render a 4k feature length film in hours when a top notch gaming rig would take days or even weeks to do the job. No use for that much RAM in gaming though.

[JOLLY1]

I use 64 gigs of RAM It isn't as fast as his.. but I use it for 3ds Max. More RAM faster renders.

[WeedyOne]

To be fair a lot of the really good looking mods made for games like Skyrim and GTA require a large amount of ram to work well. Also if you are into making games on your computer it helps to have a shit ton of RAM so that you can make the game and run it before optimizing for better performance.

[Kidmyst]

I have 8 GB Ram in my rig and it's plenty fine and plays on max settings, Could do much more but games aren't using that so it'd be a waste. But if you got the money, buy it

[Kleptic]

available ram is meaningless without a cpu/apu that can handle instructions that quickly...my motherboard can accept up to 64gb of system ram, but the socket will never fit an apu that needs that much...by the time chips are powerful enough, they'll have changed the socket...again...and none of that will matter...

but available ram can help immensely with poor optimization...something that definitely plagues pc gaming to this day...

point being...for modern pc gaming, there is a definitive line of 'not enough' versus going uselessly to the other extreme...16gb of OC ram right now, with a 2GB DDR5 equipped dedicated gpu could handle nearly everything...32gb of OC ram would be overkill, but 32gb of cheaper 1600mhz would be better than 16gb...64 of any ram, is useless on gaming, it'll never get touched...

[PurpHerbison]

Some people use their PCs for work where extra RAM might be needed. It's not uncommon at all.

[HD_GAMER1989]

funny thing is gddr5 in the ps4 is still faster then you're ridiculously overclocked, overpriced vengeance ram....0_o but keep trolling you might catch something by the time xbox one overheats or underperforms this holiday season. " I say good day " Fezz oh and at above the only reason that much ram would be needed would be for gaming on 6 sreens while downloading terabytes of gay porn, while simultaneously converting the gay porn from mkv to mp4, because its easier to watch gay porn on the iphone 5 while attempting to troll console gamers on n4g. lol

ps4 and a gaming pc can get along you know right. 30 ps4 exclusives say hi ;)

[nirwanda]

@hdgamer I think you need to do a bit of research on latency to find out which ram is faster for a cpu

[HD_GAMER1989]

yeah i was just making a joke.I have heard of the latency issue, but i do believe sony has done something to minimize that; however sony could prove my belief wrong next gen, unlike some fanboys i will admit sony isnt exempt from making fluff promises. Ill never forget how sonys bold promise for the ps3 ability to run games at 1080p ruined lair for me :(:(they tried to make it 1080p and the frame rate and screen tearing made the game unplayable for me. i still wish they make a remake on ps4 or lair 2 awesome concept and an awesome game when you minus sixaxis and lock the framerate to 30fps or up. im a pc gamer and a sony gamer. As i think the possibiltys of the new architecture of a modified apu sharing gddr5 is interesting and could provide a unique experience i dont believe the ps4 is better then a $3000 gaming computer on paper. when it comes down to it its all about the sony exclusives, doesnt matter how good you're pc is you wont be able to play them, which is why i will be supporting both next gen.

[MizTv]

MORE POWER!!!!

[ZBlacktt]

Lookie here

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

[Panthers]

5 BILLION TRANSISTORS!!!!!

[threefootwang]

Cloud trumps all!!!!!....Said no one ever

[Zephyrus_808]

I'm excited about what the PS4 will be capable of but I don't want a repeat of this generation - The quality of multiplatform games being held back by inferior hardware. It's sad thinking about how much better some games could've been if they had remained exclusive, or if the 360 wasn't as weak as it was.

[JamieL]

Nope, and I really don't see how that's relevant. I was talking strictly about fanboy defensive or aggressive statement’s, not what the cell has or has not done. This is just about N4G conversation's. I don't even know enough about tech to tell you what the cell even does well. I'm just talking about argument's made on N4G.

Example, this gen it was all about “The power of the Cell”, this coming gen it’s about “8GB of GDDR5 RAM“, and that’s just how it is.

[JamieL]

Just like "the Cell" right?

[ZBlacktt]

Have you even looked up what all the PS3 with it's Cell have done aside from gaming? Talking real world events.

http://phys.org/news1491925...

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog...

http://blog.us.playstation....

http://www.computerworld.co...

http://www.japanator.com/ci...

There's even more if you like?

[ZBlacktt]

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[titletownrelo]

Its sad though because SONY is giving Devs more Ram, but M$ is forcing third party developers to hold back on the potential of the PS4 so the Xbox One doesn't look bad. :P

M$, why do you deny us GREATNESS?

[hellvaguy]

Always "the others guys fault" mentality.

[StoneyYoshi]

Ive always heard about this with the 360 and PS3 but i never saw any link proof for it. Im really curious. Do you have any proof?

[Hicken]

hellvaguy's response is typical of fanboys who can't accept their company as ever doing wrong, but who've also got NOTHING concrete to argue in their favor. I mean, it's pretty common knowledge by now that MS forced parity on multiplats.

Does anyone really believe that's gonna change?

[maniacmayhem]

@Hicken

Mind telling us which game MS forced parity on?

I mean since it is common knowledge.

[titletownrelo]

@hellvaguy and dontbhatin

well here you guys go
http://www.escapistmagazine...

[maniacmayhem]

Hey titletownrelo, mind telling us which game(s) MS forced parity for?

Do you have a link for that?

I mean, to me it just looks like a Sony exec talking crap about MS. Lord forbid if MS said anything about Sony and this site would be up in arms with pitchforks and torches on how MS are crybabies and unprofessional.

[dbjj12088]

I've got such a huge boner for GDDR5 RAM, guys.... you don't even know.

[doctorstrange]

I can confirm this.

[Cam977]

I can confirm that your confirmation is confirmed.

[Angrymorgan]

You can confirm his boner ???

[TheFirstClassic]

Trust him. He's a doctor.

[GameOn]

He just likes to play Doctor.

[Sarobi]

But a Doctor nonetheless.

[threefootwang]

I can confirm that your confirmed confirmation has been confirmed.

[NarooN]

I can confirm that this is one crazy-ass thread. O_O

[adorie]

Wow... *jumps out of the window*

[VonBraunschweigg]

I can confirm this.

Can we get a doctor!

[devwan]

Don't worry, the magical power of the cloud will cushion your fall.

[RandomDude655]

I just saw a Titan fall.

[Sevir]

Bubbles for everyone for making me laugh... Lol

[ATi_Elite]

GDDR5 is so OLD, I can't wait for GDDR6 in 8 months!

[DragonKnight]

GDDR5, which is unavailable for commercial sale, is "old" to you and so you are going to wait 8 months for more RAM that you can't buy? Logic.

[NarooN]

LOL! Was gonna say the same thing, +bubs.

[WorldGamer]

This makes sense. I have seen a lot of people talk about the ram that the X1 uses as being sufficient, but they are not looking at the bigger picture.

Through the console generation, games will only become more demanding on the system resources, this move by Sony that might be seen by some as overkill, will most likely give the PS4 the longevity over the long run.

Smart move by Sony.

[clrlite]

Wait 3-4 years when devs like naughty dog really START to push the ps4 to its limits. The results will be phenomenal graphics and gameplay. We can expect them to get better and better with time as devs work specifically with the PS4 hardware and learn to get the most out of it.
The winners are us gamers fortunately and I'll be preordering a PS4 because I expect some of the best exclusive games.

[imt558]

Not 3-4 years. I think a little earlyer, about 1 year.:) Waiting Uncharted 4.

[hellvaguy]

I wouldnt be so sure on that ram being such a huge factor. My gaming pc has never gone over 4gb ddr3 for 1080p. And thats with using windows 7 which is a much greater resource hog than console os. But we'll see.

[Godmars290]

And supposedly MS's solution is to rely on cloud computing. On online support.

If a game absolutely needs that support to function, then offline systems wont be able to play it.

[Kleptic]

offline and onboard get along nicely...and can seamlessly switch to online when preferred...

offline and 'cloud' hate each other...not that the cloud will ever do anything useful for real time gaming any time soon...

I just summed up the next generation entirely...

[Clarence]

It's just like when Sony decided to go with bluray.

[Daz]

Its 7 gb, 1 gb for os

BUt it still great that sony got hold of 8gb GDDR5 of ram. Good work on there part.

[mushroomwig]

For the price it's pretty incredible.

[devwan]

And a more streamlined OS free from such things as TV management bloat etc. is using just 1GB of... super fast memory. That's not a bad thing from any angle.

[tuglu_pati]

I'm guessing Sony will lock more than 1 gb of ram for OS (2-3 gb of ram) , it would be the smart thing to do, in case they want to add more features in the future.

They can always make that ram available for games but not for now, they need to reserve some ram for future features upgrades.

[wolokowoh]

The features they would would not justify reserving a whole GB of RAM. Windows 7(you know the good one) only uses 1 GB of RAM and it's capable of nearly anything you want to do. I doubt Microsoft will use much more than a GB and they're building in connect and running three separate OS's.

[tuglu_pati]

@wolokowoh

agree.

But i still think it's smart to reserve at least 2 gb at the beginning just in case, then unlock them for games later in the console cycle if its not used for anything else.

[BitbyDeath]

Don't think it's required since they are used FREEBSD9 which only requires a small amount of RAM to run.

http://n4g.com/news/1289136...

ie. They likely have plenty of reserves already with just the 1GB.

[DeadlyFire]

The OS they are using uses very little RAM. 1 GB is more than enough. I wouldn't be to surprised if they said the OS could run on the PS3.

[PurpHerbison]

@DeadlyFire

I am pretty sure it would lag on the PS3. The new PS Store even has a rough time transitioning smoothly while you navigate through it.

[JohnS1313]

I agree with this. As developers start pushing the hardware the GDDR5 RAM will be a huge advantage for the PS4. The better the RAM the better the games will look and run. No cloud garbage will solve that problem.

[JackOfAllBlades]

Cannot wait for the PS4 it will be sick!

PC>4>U>1

[JackOfAllBlades]

Don't think it will be sick guys?

Edit: In Murica' sick means awesome

Edit Again: @theWB27 nonsense?

[theWB27]

The disagrees probably have something to do with the PC>4>U>1 nonsense.

[DragonKnight]

theWB27 is correct. The disagrees (I didn't disagree or agree myself) are most definitely from the fact that you put the PC first and/or the 1 last.

[Hercules189]

why do ppl agree that u is better than 1, it is severely underpowered compared to one, and on this site that means it has got to be the worst console of all time.

[Hicken]

Probably based on the fact that Nintendo is likely to do a much better job supporting it than MS will support the XBO.

[Hazmat13]

if naughty dog remade Last Of Us for PS4 like upgraded everything. you have no idea how fast i will give them my money. im also getting Metro Last Light on PS4 cause i may own it already its a still a collection i want on my PS4

[JackOfAllBlades]

Yeah, upgrade the graphics, AI, and just overhaul the game and rerelease a GOTY edition on the PS4 would be great!

[devwan]

I wouldn't bet against something like this already being in the pipeline.

[stuntman_mike]

They are going to make 2 more games in the last of us series so i bet the next one will be on ps4.

[SpinalRemains138]

why do you say that? Have you heard a rumor somewhere or read an insider leak?

[stuntman_mike]

@spinalremains138

I think i might of read a rumour a while back but i believe they will. Especially how popular the game is...

[Npugz7]

Doubling the Ram was Sonys best move!!!

[JackOfAllBlades]

And never planning DRM and online check-in ^_^

4>1

GDDR5>DDR3

7GB>5GB

PS4>XBone

[BabyTownFrolics]

Rowdius while I agree with the points you are conveying the way you convey them is annoying as hell

[DragonKnight]

@edonus: Exactly what part of Rowdius_Maximus' post is a lie?

The PS4 uses GDDR5, the Xbox One uses DDR3. Fact.
The PS4 will have 7 of 8GBs of that RAM available for games, the Xbox One will have 5GBs available. Fact.

So what part of that is a lie? Do you have any links that show that MS put GDDR5 in the X1 or is using more than 5GBs for games?

[MasterCornholio]

There were a ton of rumors that the PS4 initially had 4 GB of ram but then they upgraded it.

I am so happy that they did though because now there wont be any ram issues between ports.

[reko]

Cool :D

[PositiveEmotions]

Awesome i wonder how infamous second son will look like when is in gold status

[RandomDude655]

Like hot sex

[PositiveEmotions]

Wow bro lol just wow

[ElementX]

As if you'd know...

[Cryptcuzz]

He would know, he is really Mandingo and he is correct!

[LE]

My question is, is the WiiU still considered next gen, or current-gen.5?

[MasterCornholio]

Well i dont mean to offend any Wii U owners but i personally consider it on par with 7th gen consoles while the 8th gen consoles are a separate group composing of the PS4 and the XBOX One.

[CalamityCB]

I hope they can do alot with this, hopefully in the future and after release we wont be seeing any heat problems caused by the GDDR5, e.g. during PS4 E3 conference with AS:4 and destiny having a few slip-ups.

[Cryptcuzz]

I wouldn't be too worry about that. I think the demo hiccups for AS:4 and Destiny is more do to it being an early build or a rushed demo put together to meet E3 deadlines.

I believe GDDR5 memory produces less heat then DDR3.

[WeedyOne]

Actually the freezes had nothing to do with bugs or early builds... It had to do with people in the background playing the game while the people on stage were also playing and sometimes they would cut back and forth thus the appearance of freezes.

This article explains it all!

http://www.flesheatingzippe...

[josephayal]

Japan is reputed to be one of the most technologically advanced nations, and the PS4 is no exception

[S2Killinit]

I'm just somebody is focused on gaming.

[knifefight]

I'm not sure if I understand this post.

[S2Killinit]

lol sorry, sometimes it omits words, i don't know if this happens to others as well or its just me. I mean to say "im just glad somebody is focused on gaming"

[knifefight]

Ah, haha. Yes, now I get it. Thanks! ^_^

[fredrikpedersen]

I omit words all time :-)

[creized1]

I was so suprised and stunned when they announced 8GB of RAM.
Not even a PC game uses so much RAM, almost all ofthem use 4GB max.
Having 8GB in the PS4 is huge because in the future we will see games advance more and more as the technology progress

[Virtual_Reality]

Now they can make DUST 514 on PS4 with the full potential of Unreal Engine graphics.

[OSIRUSSS]

They could have used that RAM making Dust514 that game is lagged out mess!

[MysticStrummer]

I didn't like the game much, but lag was never a problem for me.

[JayD-1K]

I would like a M.A.G. for this gen too!

[fredrikpedersen]

Oh yes! MAG is a great shooter. So under-appreciated.

Zipper closed tho!

[Cryptcuzz]

With that much GDDR5 memory in the PS4, I am excited to see some super high-res textures in its games. It probably won't be like that at launch since developers barely knew of the bump to 8 GB GDDR5 at E3 2013, but give it a year or two and the likes of Naughty Dog, SSM and Polyphony Digital will surely flex their muscles with the available high bandwidth memory.

I read somewhere that Capcom's Deep Down teaser trailer was real time. If that is the case, I wonder if Sony had let them know ahead of time that the memory would be 8 GB GDDR5 because of how high-res the textures in that trailer is.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

I hope that a lot of developers really push the hardware capabilities with PS4 and hopefully in time the benefits of GDDR5 will start to show and make Xbox One games look very inferior in comparison. The first batch of games usually aren't as visually stunning as the ones that come out later on in cycles. I'm still surprised how far they push PS3. Last gen games were mostly around the 720p resolution so hopefully more games on next gen consoles will support full HD.

[Thomper]

I'm interested to now what home systems you fan-bots are using to fully appreciate your 8g's of GDDR5 Ram?

[DivineAssault]

8GB of ram is going to make the exclusives continue to shine for years after xbone has hit its limit.. Cloud computing may kick in on both sides but im sure PS4 will be the best console to invest in for nx gen

[Jury]

Thanks randy pitchford

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

@Jury
I can agree with that,especially as a big Borderlands fan. Though I can understand why so many gamers here wouldn't want to give him any credit.

[Jury]

Well he told Sony they need to go with 8gig or they're done. Glad he did and glad they listened. I haven't played borderlands but I loved brothers in arms series

[FlunkinMonkey]

This is a fun thread.. The lack of MS fans here is astonishing, i guess there isn't much to say. ahh and breath.

[wishingW3L]

when did Ram became a more important part to gaming than the GPU? I think this is just marketing to make people excited for weak next-gen consoles.

[Polysix]

If anything MORE ram will enable much better games from a gameplay/environment perspective than just a good GPU would! With so much ram you can do stuff beyond the wildest dreams of last gen!! With a stronger GPU you can just basically get better graphics/faster performance. They are both vital but RAM is where you'll see bigger persistent cities and better AI etc in games (for example) coming from.

PS4 is a well balanced system! They had costs to consider too of course so could hardly build it around a GTX 780 level GPU (unless you wanted say 256mb ram lol)

[swerve121]

Having the 32mb SRAM ram to help speed up the 8 gigs of DDR3 ram and the CPU/GPU all working together and it will perform at a lower latency.

From: Me3X12 on IGN