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Nintendo and E3: Game Over Before It Began?

GP writer Dominic Dimanche discusses Nintendo's different approach to announcing their newest game's at E3 2013 and whether it worked or not.

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maoleis3950d ago

I'm a huge Nintendo fanboy but since the dawn of the next gen era I have to admit recurrent disappointment.

3-4-53950d ago

You so you are disappointed. That doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Think about a year ago where the 3DS was at...

It was just started to pick up steam...slowly at first but it was starting to get good games.

We are seeing that in the 2nd half of 2013 Wii U is going to get good games.

Even more will follow in 2014.

The system sellers will be in late 2013 and throughout 2014 really. And prob some not until 2015 as well.

maoleis3948d ago

No offense intended there, just my two cents. :)

LOL_WUT3950d ago

I still don't know what Nintendo was trying to prove by not having a presentation but whatever it was it didn't work. Nintendo better have one next year ;)

SpiralTear3950d ago

The fact that they didn't have a major press conference had absolutely nothing to do with why they didn't do too well with E3.

They said that we'd get Smash Bros., Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda, and technically we did. That's great, but we just didn't get too much else. It was mostly Nintendo just checking these promised things off a list instead of offering crazy new surprises.

They didn't need a press conference. They did what they needed to do with the Nintendo Direct. The problem is that they didn't do much else.

TXIDarkAvenger3950d ago

They announced Smash.

Wii U will be selling like crazy in 2014. This is the game that many people including myself have been waiting for. Now we just need a price cut to about $250-$300 to seal the deal. That way the gap between the price of Wii U and PS4 is quite large and will be the go to budget system.

greenlantern28143950d ago

I agree with the it needs a price cut, also needs a bigger hard drive. And will see if it sells like mad, imo a lot of the games they showed at e3 including smash where already known about and many of the people who want t those games went and got a wiiu already.

coltlokk3949d ago

This might be a silly questions but do people actually run out of space that easily? I mean the Wii U has 32 gb, while the wii had 512mb on its flashrom, and I didn't use it all up. I know the ps4 and xbox one have 500GB of space, but it all just depends on how many games you download right? I guess since Nintendo's downloadable games aren't as popular as their physical discs, you don't need as much space. Well, I dunno, have you used most of the 32gb on your wii u? Mine is mostly empty since there haven't been that many great games.

TXIDarkAvenger3949d ago

@coltlokk

I was thinking the same thing, I never filled my Wii space. VC games don't even take much space and all Wii U games would be bought physical copies not digitally downloaded. So I don't really mind the 32 gb of space.

MoreRPG3950d ago

I like Super Mario 3D World everything else was ok. I think Nintendo has become way to predictable.

coltlokk3949d ago

I think part of the reason why it's so predictable is because of the previous directs, that kept revealing small things. I mean, was anyone predicting DK Country from Retro? I don't think many were, because no previous information was revealed. (I was personally hoping it was Metroid.)

Everyone knew a 3D mario was coming, everyone anticipated the mario kart and smash bros. The news about HD Wind Waker already came out. People knew about Pokemon X and Y. People knew about Pikmin 3. So, maybe it's not that they've become too predictable, maybe it's because nothing new came up (since everything they covered at E3 was basically already revealed). Though 3D Mario, Mario Kart, smash bros, and zelda are pretty predictable, since they are all really old ip.

A nice surprise was Monolith Soft's X. That was fun.

For MS and Sony, they kept things mostly secret until E3, so mostly every game came as surprise-ish. besides halo and sequel stuff like that.

PigPen3949d ago

Just to give out a little taste of how Nintendo is looking, here's what we know. Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Rayman: Legends and Wach Dogs (Ubisoft) are coming before the year end. Dues Ex: HRDC (Square Enix) is coming. Did Nintendo really need more then to show off its 1st games? I personally think that's amazing. Nintendo showed 1st party games Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong: TF (Nintendo). Throw in Zelda: WW HD remake (Nintendo) and there's your Christmas holiday season. For Nintendo it's Game Over, what?

coltlokk3949d ago

I agree with you. Personally, I'm actually really excited for these games. Zelda WW HD looks fabulous. Even though I have the GameCube ver. I kinda want to buy it for Wii U just to see it on my tv.

At first, i was like 3D Mario land on wii u? What? But as i thought about the multiplayer more, 3d mario world seemed a lot more exciting. I mean, it's the FIRST MULTIPLAYER 3D MARIO EVER...

I'm not too excited for Donkey Kong, but I am looking forward to Wii Fit U. haha. is that bad? There's also that sonic game coming out, that looks pretty darn good.

And there are some good games already out. Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is pretty cool, and NFS Most Wanted U looks amazing.

Pikmin 3 is also coming out in August.

It's not over yet, Nintendo has good games coming out every month starting August. Can't wait for 2014 though.

PigPen3949d ago

Add Batman: Origin and Project Cars to my list and the drinks are on the house.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref2d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde2d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19722d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 23h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 16h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref2d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan2d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref2d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde2d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19722d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 22h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto2d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 16h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts1d 2h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 10h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel9d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing8d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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The Nintendo Partner Spotlight Sale Is The Perfect Excuse To Get These 6 Gems

Huzaifa from eXputer: "The Nintendo Partner Spotlight sale event has discounted a number of worthy titles on the Switch. Here are 6 of them you should check out."