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Metal Gear Solid V Fan Theories are in - Two Snakes, Grey Fox and... Solidus/Master Miller is Snake?

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"What's a little Metal Gear hype without a few wild (and a few less wild) fan theories? We've all had over a week to watch and soak in the extended version of the first "proper" Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain trailer, shown at the beginning of last week's Microsoft conference, and I'm sure we've all got our own ideas about what's happening and how it all fits into the series as a whole.

"Perhaps we're not thinking about it as deeply as some of these people though, who predict clones of Master Miller, a ton of Snakes and the triumphant return of David Hayter..."

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Donnieboi3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

The Miller Clone thing sounds far-fetched...but then again, I always wondered why Liquid looks like Miller, and why his hair is naturally blonde.

Plus, without a doubt, Liquid is FAR more intelligent than his father or brother. He single-handedly revived the patriot system and ran it himself, controlling the world for a brief moment. That is something that Miller would have done (if he were evil). He has Big Boss's facial features, and battle prowess; but also looks a bit like Miller too, and definitely as an equivalent intelligence and charisma (when getting soldiers to join his "cause").

Plus Liquid was able to fool Cambell and Solid into believing that he was Liquid.

Just a theory, so don't crucify me, but: Is it possible that Liquid (if he is Eli in the trailer) is a genetic fusion of Big Boss and Miller. Just think about the possibilites before you shoot it down.

Every single MGS prequel end up reveal so much more about the lies that Solid Snake had been told about Big Boss and his own origins. Maybe there is more to reasoning behind why they cloned Big Boss.

Although Big Boss is the soldier, Miller was the brains. Combining them both would result in a person who is battle efficient and a natural born commanding officer(miller). This genetic fusion would create the kind of mindset that could run MSF, Outer Heaven, and eventually FoxHound--all in one person. Those are all qualities that Liquid possesses, and things he's accomplished alone. Yet it took BOTH Miller and Big Boss to accomplish what Liquid has done alone.

Just a theory.

Unicron3954d ago

Liquid Snake never ran the Patriots, but Liquid Ocelot was able to run SOP for a time. Different things.

Donnieboi3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Edit: I wrote a response, but I saw some flaws in what I wrote in it, so I'll have to respond again later (I erased it for now). Just too tired to go into the depths of this story-line. It's just to deep of a story that Kojima has weaved.

Unicron3954d ago

Oh I know. I've been following it since the beginning. I'm sure this game will retcon something or change something (BB's roboarm is a nice nod to his non-canon snatcher upgrades in snakes revenge), but I'm just going to sit back and wait on the ridiculousness.

HmongAmerican3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

liquid snake= snakE LIquid backward. Take the letter E at the end of the word snakE and the first two letter from the word LIquid LI makes ELI. Thats my theory.

Donnieboi3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Wow that's exceedingly far fetched.

No, imo his name is Eli because it's a play on David and Eli of the bible. It represents a similar fate for Solid and Liquid to those of mythical characters from the bible.

This video (below) has been very viral. I think it kinda explains what their names might mean.

It starts at 9:50 in the video

omi25p3954d ago

Everything you have just written is exactly why i have NEVER been able to get into MGS.

90% of the characters seem to have the same damn name.

gamertk4213954d ago

David Hayter is definitely trolling the fans. He'll be in the game.

matgrowcott3954d ago

I'm absolutely open to the idea that it might happen (if only because I can't see them getting Kiefer Sutherland to voice Snake across little spin-offs and cameos), but you shouldn't get your hopes up.

All the evidence so far points to the fact that he probably won't be in the game, and "BUT KOJIMA LIES ALL THE TIME" isn't evidence.

Timesplitter143954d ago

My theory is that the afghanistan Snake is actually Mei Ling's time-traveling clone wearing a mask

DarkBlood3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Elaborate sir?

edit: lol

Donnieboi3954d ago

Lol at the clowns who disagreed with you. Can't these people see sarcasm when it's in front of them? Damn, some people are slow.

MWH3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

please, let the story be on par with Metal Gear Solid. something credible that compliments the player's intelligence and provokes his thinking.

part of MGS's superior success simply was its authentic story, it stimulates the doubt that such conspiracy and technology could exist.

no cheap out-of-this-world conspiracy theories, no sexual vulgarity, no dumb computer AIs and no tired relationships.. Metal Gear Solid was a masterpiece on every single level.

I hope MGSV deliver a unique experience.

Maldread3954d ago

Agreed. The whole patriot story line was always the worst aspect of the series and the less of it the better in my opinion.

Really hope Hayter`s in it too as solid snake somehow, but i don`t think so.

I don`t want Jack Bauer. I want the real Snake.

Imalwaysright3954d ago

The "real" Snake is Kojima. Everything he does and says is Kojima. Hayter is just Solid's voice.

Maldread3954d ago

Imalwaysright you certainly don`t live up to your name ;)

Kojima created the character, but saying Hayter is just his voice is stupid. A character is born when an actor use his voice and body to give it life and humanity. That would be like saying Heath Ledger wasn`t the Joker, it was just Nolan. A director may come up with the concept, but skilled actors must be there to bring the vision to life. Snake was named David for christ sake, so that should say something how iconic he is. Why do you think so many fans want him back?

I wish people would stop defending Kojima`s every decision. He`s definetly a genius and a fantastic game creator, but he isn`t allways right. Just look at MGS2 for evidence.

I hate when the creators mess up their own creations and will allways voice my consern about it. Just look in horror to what Lucas did with Star Wars.

If you want Sutherland as Snake, i respect your opinion, but a voice is definitely very important in video games.

Imalwaysright3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

Hayter is just a VOICE ACTOR. What he does any decent VOICE ACTOR would do. Solid's personality is 100% Kojima. What Heath did was on a completely different level because he wasn't just lending his voice! He had the freedom to build his own character the way he wanted, to act the way he wanted and to give life to the character the way he wanted. Hayter doesn't have that freedom. Solid is a character that was built entirely by Kojima and Hayter just lends his voice. Like I said Solid is Kojima as is the whole franchise and the only person that would dispute that would be "Imalwayswrong".

Maldread3953d ago

I don`t know why you keep insisting it`s just Kojima. A character is clearly the creation of a director and an actor. Just look at how much imput Nolan North has had on Nathan Drake in Uncharted in therms of lines, deliverence etc.

If you think Hayter hasn`t contributed to how the Snake charcter has become, why is so many fans reacting negativly to a change? Why is Snake named David, if he just did the voice? For me and countless others Hayter IS Snake and is such a huge part of what makes the character so great.

I mean look at DMC where the character is much less important than in MGS and how many people hated that change in voice and apperance. Voice actors are important in video games. Especiallty when the story and characters are as vital as in MGS.

MWH3953d ago

don't mind him Maldread.

Imalwaysright3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

Again you're comparing two completely different things. Nolan was involved in Uncharted development. He did for the Drake what Heath did for the Joker. He wasn't just lending his voice he acted the part and gave life to the character. The difference is that it was using that motion capture technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

If you want to talk about actors involved in developing the Solid character you should be talking about the japanese voice actor but even then I know that the japanese voice actor just lends his voice to Solid as well. Solid is character created by Kojima and nothing will ever change that.

@ Segamon Yeah Im a fanboy. Too bad I can use logic to back the points I'm trying to make. Thanks for bringing something irrelevant to the table.

Maldread3953d ago

Segamon, i`m fine with people having different opinions than me, i just don`t understand his reasoning on this one ;) But thanks.

Hope they bring out a new Leagacy of Kain game by the way. Really liked Blood Omen 2, even though it was a bit choppy on PS2 :)

MWH3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

He's a fanboy, he has no reason, this is why I encouraged you to not mind him.

Blood Omen 2?! oh Maldread, I don't want to debate you but Blood Omen 2 is considered a reject among Legacy of Kain fans. some say it's because Amy Hennig was not involved, I believe it's true. but likewise, I hope they bring back the series, Defiance's ending was and still is among the most epic I've experienced in a video game.

by the way, your avatar, I'm a big fan of Masquerade Redemption myself.

regards,

Maldread3953d ago

segamon hehe ok. It`s the only Leagacy of Kains game i`ve played, so maybe that`s why i liked it ;)

Let`s hope they can bring back the series, but i`m a bit unsure how CD will with the whole Tomb Raider "sales failure" of recent. Think they need a new developer if it will happen.

Imalwaysright, so you have to do motion capture to contribute to the character?? Give me a break. If Hayter was just an voice actor, people wouldn`t care so much that he`s gone. Yes Kojima created the role, but Hayter brought him to life as we know Snake. If you want to pretend Hayter has just read some lines, suit yourself.

Imalwaysright3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

I'm not pretending anything. Hayter just lends his voice and doesn't have any input on what Solid says or does. Nolan by doing motion capture gave life to the character, was an active part of building the character and gave his feedback to Amy on the character. Hayter doesn't have anything to do with the develpment of Solid. Just the fact that he just recently found out that he wouldn't voice Big Boss when the game has been in development for years and is months away from release is proof enough of what I'm saying. What Hayter does any decent voice actor would do. He is NOT the real Snake or are the japanese, german, spanish... voice actors the real SnakeS too?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

You can sit there and say that what defines a person/character is that person/character voice but to me that is not what defines a person/character. I'll be enjoying a masterpiece made by the person that IS Solid/Big Boss and IS MGS: Kojima because I never played MGS to hear Hayter's voice. I'm not a Hayter fan, I'm a MGS fanboy.

ZBlacktt3954d ago

My head is going to explode

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15 Video Games With Realistic Injury Mechanics

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The Metal Gear series has sold 60.2 million copies

The Metal Gear series has sold 60.2 million copies, as of September 2023.

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Nyxus169d ago

Now we'll have to see how much the Master Collection will add to those numbers.

Number1TailzFan169d ago

Too bad it was a lazy release. They could've updated the visuals and everything. Missed opportunity.

Stanjara169d ago

...and yet, they couldn't give more respect and effort into the collection.
What a terrible company.

Minute Man 721169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

Are they counting every game?

Edit: they did

Nyxus169d ago

Yes, these are total lifetime sales of the entire series.

ApocalypseShadow168d ago

.... mostly with the help of PlayStation.

Michiel1989168d ago

Get that Sony tramp stamp while you're at it. No one asked

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Metal Gear Solid V: the Phantom Pain Review

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is another rollercoaster of a game in the Metal Gear Solid series. Here's what to expect and why you need to experience it.

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CrimsonWing69185d ago

Yea I don’t get why they’re allowing old reviews to be posted here. Someone did one on Soul Reaver and I got so excited thinking there was some stealth release of an HD Remaster, but no… it’s just someone who had a slow day posted an old review…

Cacabunga184d ago

I liked the game but for me it felt somehow like a military simulator rather than a proper MGS.. i got bored of that

micdagoat19184d ago

I do wish they would remaster all the soul reavers

micdagoat19184d ago

it was done this morning though

goldwyncq184d ago

The author was in a coma for 9 years and didn't get to play the game when it released.

Chocoburger185d ago

This review arrived just in time for launch. Perfect timing!

RupeeHoarder185d ago

Amazing how bad this game looks already. We keep acting like this gen doesn't feel like an update but I think we're starting to see it.

YourMommySpoils184d ago

Looks better than Starfield, Cyberpunk and most recent games out. Still fine.

RupeeHoarder184d ago

It most certainly does not lol.

andy85184d ago

Have you player Cyberpunk since the first day? It's absolutely stunning now

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1nsomniac184d ago

One of the worst games ever made. Absolute overhyped trash!

Snowb420184d ago

The gameplay was great. It was the tacked on open world and repetitive missions that messed the game up.

Shane Kim184d ago

The game started really strong in that hospital, but after a couple of hours I wondered if it was even an mgs game I was playing.

KyRo184d ago

The hospital section was the only bit that felt like a MGS game.

MGS4 was the ending for me. I totally ignore the fact 5 exists. It didn't need to exist tbh

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