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Satoru Iwata talks about Nintendo’s limitations

Nintendo can't do this alone. Iwata addresses the lack of third party Wii U and 3DS support.

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overlordror3953d ago

Glad they're finally acknowledging they have some problems they need to work out.

SpiralTear3953d ago

Acknowledgement is only the first step. Iwata's been apologizing for months now about the Wii U, yet we haven't seen too much new for the system, not even at E3. It looks great, but...what else?

Nintendo just needs to step things up now. I mean, their history in consideration, it's not like it's impossible for them to succeed, even at this point.

BullyMangler3952d ago

dude no matter how u wanna look at it, NIntendo is in the lead over sony and microsoft < fact, regardless of saLes .. . (:

sad thing is even marios new CAT suit in mario 3D land for wiiU is more CREATEive than all of The Last of Us game (;

linkenski3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

bullymangLer: What? How is the most generic Mario game next to the crapload of NSMB games less generic than one of the finest and most polished video game creations to this date? I'm a huge Nintendo fan, I'm playing Animal Crossing right now, I have a Gamecube, I have a Wii and i support them, but saying the Last of Us is uncreative is an insult to the people who put their time and thoughts into it.

It's one of the best games i've ever played, maybe not top 5 (OoT will always be top) but you can't come and say that it sucks especially not if you haven't even played it.

Did it not strike you that Mario is starting to become a milked franchise? The cat suit is just a revision of the Racoon suit. Anyone could've come up with that. As for that game, it's just Mario 3D Land in HD and with co-op. That's not the evolution of Mario fans were looking for.

greenlantern28143953d ago

well maybe if they let 3rd party or indy devs put stuff on their eshop and get some of the profits they would have a better relationship with them.

gamer423953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

I thought Indie devs could price their games at whatever they wanted in the eShop so they can make profit, am I mistaken?

greenlantern28143953d ago

You are mistaken for Indy or 3rd parties to get money for eshop they have to hit a certain amount of money made.

EliteGameKnight3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

GreenLantern2814

Actually, developers make income on every unit sold, they dont have to meet a threshold. It was evolved from the Wiiware/DSIware system to allow it to be easier for indies. They are also able to choose the price of their games to further sales if they so choose.

Here's a source: http://www.cubed3.com/news/...

article is aimed at indie, I dont know how it is for third party, but I figure it is a similar system

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in response to your statement about letting indie companies make money on the Wii U.

Every game put on a digital store has the owner of said store take a percentage of the profit. it is this way with PSN, XBLA, Steam, and E-shop. I believe that Nintendo takes 10%/20% of E-shop income, I could be wrong, in which case a $10 game would earn nintendo $1/$2 of the profit.

exfatal3953d ago

your comment just showed you no nothing about whats going with Nintendo and are just speaking for the sake of being part of the "its cool to hate on nitnendo" bandwagon. yes nintendo has alot of work to do when coming with relationships with 3rd party developers but for indies they have alot of control and support on the Wii u as of late and it's showing with the support they are giving the Wii U

greenlantern28143953d ago

Defend them if you want but the fact is for any one putting stuff on eshop to make money first the game has to make so much money.
And if their is so much support for the wiiu where is it. And of course any body who doesn't sing the praises of Nintendo is just jumping on the hating Nintendo band wagon.
And I joined that band wagon when Nintendo came out with the piece of crap Wii.

deafdani3953d ago

Nope. That was the Wii's Wiiware service. Nintendo has turned things around completely for the Wii U's eShop, and pretty much every indie developer that's made anything for Wii U only talks about how great Nintendo is to work with now.

Timesplitter143953d ago

Nintendo needs an actual next-gen console aimed at people who play games.

Kietz3953d ago

They have that. It's called the Wii U.
"Next gen" is just a term now used by by children to whine about the tech of a machine.
As for games, face it, Nintendo has the most consistent lineup of quality, first-party releases around. People knock them for always releasing the same handful of titles, but there's not another company in the industry who would be able to manage such a thing.
Nintendo is, and will be, doing just fine. Not only in the handheld market, but the console market. Let some of the already announced titles release, and then lets see if the system is still dead in the water.
Still waiting for Vita to catch its stride. Not many on this site dare trash that thing.

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stuna13953d ago

You sound just like one of the Xbox1 apologist! Just because you can continue to pull the wool over someones eyes doesn't mean you should.

I grew up on Nintendo, and from my standpoint it's definitely time for them to start taking some risks, and I don't mean in hardware either! Just because we grew up with the stigma of Nintendo consoles should be family friendly, doesn't mean that this generation of gamers want that!

I'm willing to bet that is exactly why their 3rd party support is lacking, because 3rd party doesn't want to be completely overshadowed by Nintendo 1st party. At some point it was up to Nintendo to develop some type of equalibrium between all parties involved! Let people make the type of games they want, without having to be shoehorned into control schemes that aren't fully understood or practicle.

I have faith in the Nintendo name, but I also realise times change, and things change with time! Nintendo should be one of those things. I'm not saying completely, but they need to learn to adapt better.

The term Next Gen is a term that be used to prove or disprove an arguement just in the context it's used, but those believing in the WII U abilities in context of competing in the arena with the Xbox1 and PS4....... Do I really need to say it!? This is not a fanboyish statement, this is "FACT"! Already there are games slated for release on the Xbox1 and PS4 that simply will not be able to be fit on the WII U without massive downgrades! This is no ones fault except Nintendo's , they underestimated the next gen consoles! As well as a lot of fanboys concerning specs, price, graphics, and games! Those same fanboys are quiet as Hell right about now.

exfatal3953d ago

i seriously feel like asking the age of who ever says that nintendo needs to have a next gen system when the Wii U is already out.

My money is there either 11-17 year old boys or men/women with that age mentality

greenlantern28143953d ago

Or people who don't just blindly follow Nintendo and whatever they do.

TriforceLightning3953d ago

Sony and Microsoft need real next-gen consoles because all i saw from them were more graphics and software that we already have an abundance of now.

stuna13953d ago

So where does Nintendo fit into that little statement of yours!?

MoreRPG3953d ago

Even with the limitations Nintendo still can make great games. They just need people with new ideas.

MisfitsInc3953d ago

my biggest issue with the Wii U, is that it's Nintendo's first HD console and their biggest games are 2-D platformers. if an HD Metroid game was available i would get a Wii U, but with the current games out i have no desire to get one.

TriforceLightning3953d ago

If an HD Metroid existed you would get it regardless, even it was 2-D; if you truly were a fan.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger889d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing9d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder8d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21838d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.