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Cliff Bleszinski bets against next-gen consoles

The very popular Game Designer Cliff Bleszinski, mostly known for his work on Gears of War and Unreal Tournament, spoke against next generation consoles on his blog.

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allformats3952d ago

People need to stop posting what he says. That guy is obviously looking attention. Don't give it to him. And frankly, why does his opinion matter? He's a retired developer who worked on Gears of War. Enough of him already.

Gazondaily3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

What's wrong with Gears of War? (you were just making a statement of fact and not implying anything?)

PraxxtorCruel3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

Don't tell me, is he betting (again) that mobile gaming will be the future? What is it with this guy and mobile gaming? How about sticking to something you know aka console gaming? Why is he so infatuated with mobile gaming? The day mobile gaming takes over is the day I retire from gaming!

Fishy Fingers3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

Why should people stop posting the opinion of a high ranking industry professional when N4G is 50% opinion pieces from "nobodies"?

Wouldn't it be simpler to just ignore threads surrounding him? Some people might actually value the opinion of someone who has experience in the field.

Edit: Disagree if that makes sense.

malokevi3952d ago

More like Cliff benSPEAKEY!

OHHHHHH!!!!

*...cricket...*

Army_of_Darkness3952d ago

Tell him to STFU!!!
Console game development was what made him big and this is what he says to thank us and this business?? What a back stabbing little shit.

badz1493952d ago

you had too much of that ego juice already!

go home, Cliff! you're drunk!

Information Minister3952d ago

Now that Microsoft has abandoned their DRM plans, Mr. Cliffy is mad because it will be harder for him to extort large amounts of money from gamers while outputting sub-par games.

He's a real class act, this guy...

SilentNegotiator3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

@Fishy Fingers

That's funny. I didn't know an unemployed guy begging EA for a job was a "high ranking industry professional"

He's a professional in ONE genre of game, but not the industry itself. He isn't in a place to say that next gen consoles won't do well, or that chucking DRM was a bad move, or etc.

PurpHerbison3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

N4G is going to keep articles like this alive, but you know what would help? Not commenting on them. I know it is tough cause here I am commenting but... try.

SilentNegotiator3952d ago

@purp

Clicking the link gives it heat, not commenting.

Xof3951d ago

Did you bother to read his blog post?

I think not.

It was interesting and well articulated, and in no way represented by that misleading headline over here.

A particularly appropriate quote:

"What bothers me is the internet pitchfork mob who can only see 6 inches in front of their face without thoughtfully analyzing a situation. "

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YNWA963952d ago

Yeah Cliffy, shut up please, unless you have something good to say about Sony or thrash MS. We do not like you, you have no experience like Jonathon Blows, who is a well respected veteran developer who loves our Sony!

extermin8or3952d ago

Well actually I'd easily say jonathon knows more about tech than cliffy B who I'd credit with the intelligence of some kind of primate but actually they tend to be quite smart and at any rate it'd be an insult to any animal tbh. The guys thick as shit and has periodically made stupid comments about various things over the years that usually don't warrent a comment from him and have nothing todo with him-yeah he worked on a few decent games but lets be clear here; Gears of war and unreal engine were good games but they weren't at least not as far as I can see actually his ideas. He may have servved as a lead designer on them but lets be clear whilst good games there is nothing ground breakingly amazing about them, there is nothing particularly special. They tend to be games about overly macho guys that are in space marine combat suits (oh and a few women) that look like they've just had a dose of steroids the scripts sound like they've come from the mind of an 8 year old who just watched apollo 13 or soemthing and saving private ryan before writing them, that's how it sounds anyway but the games are fun. My point being Jonathon Blow creates way more original games and is actually working on the current consoles therefore his opinion is more valid however neither of them really have the credentials to say sweet F A. So as his opinion is rarely asked for, and really shouldn't be because the blokes ability to give an intelligent response to something is clearly minimal. People like Peter Molleneux-they have the right to give their input, Michael Ancel, Neil Druckman etc people from Bungie etc ec They all have the right to comment on the industry and such because they've proven time and time again they know how to make great games, they still do/ are and really I don't think anyone but you believes if it's anything todo with a developer that loves Sony or if they love MS. The ones that have the credentials to backup what they are claiming/saying tend not to say anything and tit's like him...just want money.

SilentNegotiator3952d ago

Even Microsoft gave up on the DRM...what does hating on Cliffy, for making comments about hating the change, have to do with "teh soni fanbois!!"?

Give it up. Don't you fanboys ever get tired of looking for hypocrisy where it doesn't exist?

vickers5003952d ago

"Well actually I'd easily say jonathon knows more about tech than cliffy B"

Not defending Cliffy B here, but wasn't there an article here a while ago that stated Jonathan Blow was using like 5 gigs of RAM for The Witness? Something pretty much not even the most graphically intense or physics heavy games require?

CrossingEden3952d ago

evidently you didn't read the article -_-

adorie3952d ago

It's not his fault.It's the websites desperate for hits and the tools who post the articles.

He appears annoying because"journalists" <--lmao?
are covering his every word. If it were Cliffy putting his own articles up here, I would totally agree.

THamm3952d ago

He must be mad because he wasn't hired by KojiPro

THEDON82z13952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

Consoles was here before him and they will be here after him... Like someone else sayed STFU and do whatever your fake a$$ retirement plans consist of, he is just mad that money train he was depending on is dead(at-least for now).... Notice now that everything is going Sony's way he has not even talked about the games that could be possible with next gen tech...Just complain and speak BS all-day.. to me gears of war/ bulletstorm were good games but nothing mind-blowing.. why don't he truly make a masterpiece( aka last of us/ battlefield 4 style), that makes me pay for a game in full!!! In short stop running your d@me mouth and either retire or create your vision of what a next gen title should be!!!!

otherZinc3951d ago

I haven't purchased a game from gamestop in about 5 years because of this, I'll continue.

When I buy 3 next gen consoles November 2013, not one will come from a Gamestop. Nor, will any games or accessories. Yes, I and my friends are big supporters of gaming, Gamestops undercutting practices is a detriment to developers.

CyberSentinel3951d ago

" Add in the fact that there’s more things than ever in 2013 competing for your dollar and you have to have 8+ figure marketing budgets to run ads and what not."

Why doesn't anyone complain about the cost of advertisement in media? Are developers, publishers, and corporations afraid to challenge theses media giants? Hmmm. I think we know the answer to that question. With all the profits GameStop makes off of used games they should advertise for the video game market for free.

If not, go all digital on them.

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Bowzabub3952d ago

That's because CryEngine is taking over. Cliffy, meet Nvidia. Nvidia meet Cliffy. I can read you like a book punk.

medman3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

That's funny, because I'm betting against Cliffy Douchebag.

Parasyte3952d ago

Ya know...I used to like CLiffy for speaking his mind and not holding anything back. But, since he has left the industry he's started to get annoying.

gedden73952d ago

Who else thinks this attention whore needs to go in a cave to be never heard of again??

shivvy243952d ago

someone should just smash his lambo

medman3952d ago (Edited 3952d ago )

Why punish a car for the insanity of it's owner. Better to take it from him and offer it a better owner.

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New Shark Tank Inspired Wolves’ Den Game Contest With Spatial, Youtube, and Gaming Legends

Rapper/Actor Ice-T, and YouTube, Gaming Legends, Cliff Bleszinski, Welyn, And Barji To Judge First ‘Wolves Den’ Game Jam Series On Spatial Platform

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N4GTG37d ago

This could be great for some indie developers

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Gears of War Creator CliffyB Offers His Thoughts on Xbox Exclusives Going Multiplatform

During a recent Game Rant interview, Gears of War creator CliffyB comments on Xbox-exclusive games possibly adopting multiplatform models.

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S2Killinit38d ago

Im sure he would love it. More money for him.

OtterX38d ago

Yea, I remember seeing him and his Lamborghini at one point in history. Lol, I think that kind of gives it away.

rippermcrip38d ago

Doubtful he gets any residuals from anything Gears related.

rippermcrip37d ago

Bunch of clowns down voting without any explanation of how exactly he is getting money off Gears. You think Notch still gets Minecraft money too?

jznrpg37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Depends on the contract. Some contracts have residuals some don’t

Whitey2k38d ago

Sometimes I don't get what he says half the times. He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way

Notellin38d ago

I imagine this is exactly how fanboys feel how this went down. Microsoft paid for all the development and took all the risk off Epic games for a new IP.

It has nothing to do with anyone being a fanboy. Well other than yourself who oversimplified this entire franchises history.

LoveSpuds38d ago

I agree Notellin, however, once he was in bed with MS he did become pretty 'anti Sony' ans was such a shill for MS.

Hofstaderman38d ago

This. And Sony also does this with titles these days.

shinoff218338d ago

I thought it was said cliffs shopped it around hence rumors of a ps3 demo being out there. If ms took on all the cost, why is there a ps3 demo?

Rude-ro38d ago

Not true at all.
Microsoft had to buy the ip because the contract ran out on keeping it exclusive.
Microsoft took no risk, they just marketed the game and payed for a contract.
Not hard to find out.

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Ironmike38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Your the the fanboy

Sciurus_vulgaris38d ago

No, Epic signed a development and publishing contract with Xbox for Gears of War. After Judgement Microsoft still had the Gears of War publishing rights. Epic then sold the Gears of War IP to Microsoft in 2014. Cliffy B never owned Gears of War, he was just a lead designer of the series.

rippermcrip38d ago

Ya I don't know what people are saying about CliffyB making money of Gears sales nowadays. He was never the owner and Epic no longer owns it either.

ChasterMies38d ago

“He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way”

It has nothing to do with fondness for the Xbox platform. Microsoft paid for exclusivity.

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Travesty38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Well when you look at the sales perspective of ps5. It has a big audience selling over a 2 to 1 ratio. It makes money sense.
Fanboy era was at its prime during the ps3-360 generation. It’s not as toxic as it once was, thankfully. People grow out of it eventually. I have my preference just as the next person. That being said it’s coming to be more about expanding availability instead of standing behind a brand. Much more Microsoft than Sony. But Sony will probably move up its time of PC release for increase revenue.
We will see, it’s just speculation.

Psychonaut8538d ago

CliffyB is like David Jaffe at this point, always quick with the opinions but haven’t made a successful game in over a decade at this point. Do any of us really care what they think about anything? I certainly don’t.

shinoff218338d ago

I never liked the guy tbh but he's got more relevance in gaming then we do.

Skuletor38d ago

CliffyB, I haven't heard that name since Lawbreakers flopped.

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Sorry, CliffyB, But "Gears of War" Doesn’t Need A "God of War"- Style Reboot

Shaz from GL writes: “In an interview, Cliff Bleszinski says that he’d be interested in helping develop a Gears of War reboot akin to God of War. Unnecessary? I think so.”

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Jin_Sakai164d ago

Regardless, Gears of War gameplay feels outdated this day and age.

spicelicka162d ago

I completely disagree. Outdated in what way? There is literally no other cover based TPS multiplayer game like it and the core gameplay is so good that people still play Gears 1 today. I can't think of any games that has shotgun battles like Gears. The real issue is that there is simply no new audience for it, because the learning curve is so steep. It just needs to market itself better and the work needs to be done on the campaign side. Better to just split up the single player and multiplayer as two different projects and releases.

Also, this who "reboot" discussion isn't considering the fact that God of war doesn't have multiplayer as a significant portion of the game. Single player only games have a lot more freedom to change. With Gears you have to consider that there's an entire community still playing every day, so you can't just change the core gameplay balance. On top of that they can't dedicate as many resources to single player as God of war, because the budget has to be split with multiplayer.

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Gamingsince1981161d ago

There is no other one like it because there is no demand for that style of game, kinda obvious really. If there was an interest in gears style games the market would be flooded with them.

lucian229161d ago

Gears of War 1 and 2 were bad combat wise.... Story wise too. I beat both of them because of the hype and gave up after that.

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GamerRN161d ago

I agree. It needs done kind of overhaul, but I don't think a God of War style would suit this game.

I gotta be honest I don't know what it needs, but it needs something ... And 5 wasn't it

terrorofdeath161d ago

Maybe it's a reboot more in the sense of a more emotional storyline or something like God of War, and some small tweaks in terms of gameplay.

anast162d ago

They don't have the talent to do a GoW style reboot.

DOMination-162d ago

Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?

The Coalition probably have the best and most knowledge team on Unreal Engine 5 outside of Epic. I'd have thought if anyone "had the talent", it would be them.

Rude-ro162d ago

Because they did not do a fantastic job when they took over the ip.

In fact, the majority of ips under Microsoft shows complete signs of cheap development with bigger marketing budgets.

More make up on dated engines can work… but can not be mistaken for innovative.
No innovation equals no ability to push a franchise into anything new.
Take the “open world” introduction in the last gears…
Empty vast traveling areas to get to pre determined “random” encounter areas is a cheap developing approach.. not innovation to build any trust into.

kneon161d ago

Even if they were the best in the world at UE5 that would only mean that they might make a great looking game. It takes a lot more than that to make a great game.

anast161d ago

"Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?"

History and current output.

jznrpg97d ago

Look at the last 10 years and you have plenty of evidence

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rgraf77161d ago

God of War is overrated. Those boring boat rides talking and backtracking.

GamingManiac161d ago

Bruh, that made me laugh lol

anast161d ago

I'm not big on the game, but it isn't overrated.

Inverno162d ago

A reimagining that continues the lore, and story of established characters is absolutely a great way to continue a series that needs a refresh. I agree that any long standing franchise that has run it's course definitely needs a "God of War" style reboot, because GOW did it right. I might have my issues with the last two games but they did right by the series regardless.

Ra3030162d ago

There's no helping Gears of Woke. Microsoft killed this franchise when they forced the woke culture into the story.

itBourne162d ago

God of War did the same, just in a more subtle sly way.... They could of probably made a few cuts and bam, PG rated movie right there. God of Rainbows and Daisies.

itBourne162d ago

Dang, so many dislikes lol, willing to elaborate, just didnt want to throw out a bunch of spoilers. If anyone wants to discuss as to why, im always open to discussions. Just shoot me a DM.

343_Guilty_Spark162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

How is it woke? Because the lead is a female?

Is Horizon woke also?

CantThinkOfAUsername161d ago

It is, but not due to the gender of its protagonist.

zeuanimals162d ago

There's no helping you. Anti-woke culture killed your brain when they force fed you the idea that diversity is the worst thing ever.

Ra3030162d ago

Lol....good to see that you agree as do I with the fact Microsoft went woke as Disney with the Gear franchise. Microsoft tried to save the franchise by taking the formula that was working with the strong Bro leads and going to the woke weakass female formula that no one cared about.

Binarycode162d ago

Diversity isn't a strength. Look at the world. That's the reason it's in the state it is.

Gamingsince1981161d ago

Forced diversity is the reason people don't like diversity, you should just hire who is best for what, not have to tick boxes first then worry about talent next.

zeuanimals161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

@ra3030

Every company has gone woke, even successful ones. Those don't fit your narrative though. Yeah no, the only two things Microsoft and Disney have in common is that they're woke /s

Totally not that they're risk averse companies that don't wanna innovate in fear of it being a waste of time. They've got bottomless pockets and limited time. So they spend their time trying to crack codes, find patterns, create money making templates out of whatever property they're working on. It needs to be as mass produceable as possible. Disney and Microsoft, bringing sweat shop factory made quality to gaming storefronts and theaters near you.

zeuanimals161d ago

@binary

Right because the world was so much better segregated... and there's a million other reasons I'd put ahead of diversity as to why the world is the way it is, but way to show how much diversity is on your brain by how dangerous you think it is. It's literally the cause of everything to you.

@gaming

Actually forced diversity is the only reason people like diversity. If you don't force people to do it, they won't do it. The only people who end up liking it due to having met new people with different perspectives only ever got to because they were kind of forced to. That's literally part of the reason diversity is being advocated for, because it promotes innovation. Having dozens of people with too similar of viewpoints can lead them to being too likeminded and unable to think of different solutions, or even different problems that weren't even recognized. There's more than one way to be a useful hire, and having a genuinely unique perspective is one of them.

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Crows90162d ago

I thought they were doing a soft reboot with gears4 but then it turned out to be the exact same as all the others.

A more horror oriented and tight corridor renewal would work for that franchise....also...why they got guns? They're alien like...they should have other types of weapons entirely.

OMNlPOTENT162d ago

dang why do most of the different species in god of war use swords, axes, and bows? They should have other types of weapons entirely.

Crows90162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

They don't... Okay you obviously haven't played god of war. What a way of owning yourself man! Lol

The draugr are pretty much the only ones...and besides we're comparing established mythology with made up bug aliens

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