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EDGE: PS4 Vs Xbox One: Sony retains upper hand after Microsoft DRM U turn, say analysts

PS4’s lower price will give it the upper hand against Xbox One despite Microsoft’s decision to backtrack on its DRM policies last night, analysts have told us.

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BigFnHooters3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

The price.

And...

* The massive graphical power advantage the PS4 has over the weak Xbox One

+ The huge power advantage the PS4's very fast system RAM has over the outdated Xbox One's RAM
+ The 50 percent more powerful graphics hardware
+ The 2 gigs more RAM the PS4 has for games to utilize
+ The lack of any sort of Kinect crap running constantly

* The massive exclusive advantage the PS4 has over the Xbox One

+ Sony's gigantic first party studio line up compared to the Microsoft's tiny and casual shovelware focused first party studios
+ The amazing Japanese developer support for the PS4
+ The smaller developers flocking to the PS4

* Gaikai online service integration

* The upgradeable harddrive

* The small and elegant hardware design along with internal power supply instead of the ugly and bulky Xbox One with yet another giant external powerbrick

* The PS4 works in everywhere. The Xbox One only works in some parts of the world.

Themba763962d ago

i hate kinect stupid usher dance cam.

reaperofsouls3962d ago

I will never buy an xbox whilst kinect is mandatory. ** ARE you lisening M$

Sono4213962d ago

Does anybody here seriously think that Microsoft (One of the greediest corporations out there) will actually sell a product at a loss? Yea maybe after it's been on the market for years, but within the first 2 years of the console? No.. unless it does so bad that selling them at a loss is their only option.

pixelsword3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Every time you use kinect, a kitten dies.

It was on Kinect's website, honest!

J/K

zeee3962d ago

As long as they have Kinect, I will not buy another Xbox console. I just don't get along with this motion/voice control thing. I'd rather sit on my couch, and use physical buttons thank you very much.

Kinect is the most creepiest form of privacy invasion!

s8anicslayer3961d ago

I can guarantee you that by the time the xb1 releases there will be either an extra sku without the kinect or the kinect will not be a forced purchase included in the box. I can bet my bottom dollar Microsoft is scrambling right now and now that they had to swallow their pride anything goes with them.

Mainsqueeze3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

@BigFnHooters
Apparently you didn't watch Microsoft's e3 presentation, because I didn't see any "shovel-ware" games. In fact Microsoft actually revealed more first party AAA exclusives than Sony and zero of them were kinect only or kinect at all for that matter.
Oh and i'm not sure what you mean by the amazing Japanese dev support...MGS5, FFXV, and kingdom hearts 3 are all coming to Xbone. Plus Microsoft has their cloud working at launch when you have to wait till next year till Sony gets all of Gaikai's features which, from the looks of it, is going to be worse than Microsoft's cloud anyways. The price of the ps4 and the fact that it has much better hardware are super advantageous for the PS4 however, and that is why i will be purchasing one, plus Naughty Dog is awesome. But alas arguing with someone who doesn't know the facts is pointless. Not really surprised that someone so misinformed as you can get a "well said" on n4g though.

AedanClarke3961d ago

Wow, Mainsqueeze has more disagrees than agrees? Jesus Christ, this site is absolutely pathetic. I mean, honestly, the number of Sony fanboys here is outstanding. I don't support the Xbox One at all, but they honestly showed more exclusive games. That's a fact.

And the N4G mods apparently need to be replaced. If they can't even check their own damn facts before handing out "Well Said" bubbles (well, they hand them out to anyone that says anything disturbingly fanboyish to Sony, really), then what are they there for?

Jeez.

Kurt Russell3961d ago

All Kinect 1.0 did for me was annoy me online when playing with people using it as a mic,you'd hear there dogs barking, mums calling, crisps being eaten, beers being open, moronic laughter.

I think I will miss this one :)

insomnium23961d ago

@mainsqueeze

Ummm... you do know how the spread with core game/casual BS went with the x360 right?

" In fact Microsoft actually revealed more first party AAA exclusives than Sony"

Sooooo this means that MS will be pushing out more exclusive games than Sony? C'mon be real.

Cloud?! FFS could people please stfu about this buzzword already? Let's see it in action before we use it to try and gain ground.

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TesMgsFan3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

So PS4 rules right ?? xD

Divine3962d ago

i love @BigFnHooters's comment because its all facts no going around anything to try and be better. like xbox

KarrBOMB3961d ago

Hell yeah PS4 rules. The Kinect alone will keep people away. I have both systems currently, but only the PS4 this next generation.

Every single Xbone feature alone is enough to keep me away, so them changing the DRM, 24hr check-in, used game policy and now the price drop to $399 are just them scrambling to keep from losing too much ground. But the forced Kinect is still enough to make me steer clear.

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Haules3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

@BigFnHooters,
Nobody can argue with your comment! +bubble!!

Veneno3961d ago

I didn't catch a word of his comment. I was distracted by those big beautiful knockerz.

EasilyTheBest3962d ago

Microsoft has already made a big u turn on DRM who knows what will happen before release.
Microsoft have very deep pockets what if they go $299 on release and the 360 drops to $129 with Kinect.
I'm sure that's right there on the table if they really want to sell tons.

HammadTheBeast3962d ago

If they go to $299 you can easily expect them to go bankrupt at selling at that high of a loss.

Ingram3962d ago

they WILL go 299 if the first 6 months are catastrophic.
Wii U will go 199 this xmas for obvious reasons. Let's all wait and see.

MWong3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

M$ can't undercut Sony no matter what they do. Unless they decide to remove the Kinect and Blu-ray drive. Which they cannot do, since even in the current gen there were spacing constraints.

If Sony is only making a $25 profit/PS4 @ $400, M$ has to be making probably $10-15 profit/XBone @ $500. If that since they are scrapping some features they were previously implementing. That's R&D money down the drain.

EasilyTheBest3962d ago

Mwong...

"M$ can't undercut Sony no matter what they do."

What are you talking about, Microsoft have the money to sell at a loss a big loss if they wanted too.
Sony hasn't got that option.

XabiDaChosenOne3962d ago

MS execs and share holders are already suggesting that MS sell off it's Xbox division, what makes you think that they are going to allow gaming division to blow through all of that money? http://www.geekwire.com/201...

Just because Microsoft as a whole has a lot of money does not mean they are going to allow the Xbox division by itself to blow through a huge chunk of it.

Not to mention since Apple and Google are spanking them in other business ventures you better believe that they are going to be penny pinching that money like Mr. Krabs himself.

EasilyTheBest3962d ago

Kobe, most generations have done this exact thing. Get millions of consoles out there and make a ton of money selling games etc.
Shareholders etc could equally love an aggressive stance as much as they wouldn't.

XabiDaChosenOne3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

First of all, generations dont sell consoles, companies do. Secondly in past generations companies took loses on consoles yes but the loses were manageable (except for the PS3s case). You are suggesting that they take at least a hundred dollar lost for each console sold just to match Sonys console and that's assuming they aren't taking a lose on the console already. People would have to buy 2 games at launch to cover the cost.

Kleptic3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

some of you are ridiculous...

2013 MS isn't 2005 MS...2005 was before Vista, before the Zune, and before the Xbox division's billion+ dollar public hardware beta...2005 was before Apple latched its hooks in and has been systematically removing mass quantities of market share...with a freaking expensive mp3 player. 2005 was before MS would blatantly ignore mobile connectivity and devices, and buy back into it with Windows phone...which is going no where, only barely edging the nearly bankrupt blackberry...Before they lost awareness of how people would use 'home' computers. Before Bing, before losses to botched Ford contracts, before more monopoly lawsuits, etc., etc., etc....

but yeah...When pressure is reaching an all time high from shareholders to finally axe a 'risky endeavor' that very few agreed with since inception...just cut the price nearly in half on the xbox one...that should work, right?

I'd love to see what would happen if some of you ever get to have any decision making within a publicly traded company...

tommygunzII3962d ago

Well said Kleptic. Someone is paying attention.

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MazzingerZ3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

What MSFT has yet to explain is how supposed "power of the cloud" will work now? Games can be played offline now, so:
-will you get an inferior version when offline?
-will the game be playable at all?
-will developers take into consideration that game can be played offline?
-or was it just a BIG lie(one more)to justify the obvious inferior specifications compared to the PS4

The X1 at this point feels more rushed than the X360 at its time, one can't get a clear picture of what makes it so special for that price and still XBLG restrictions, SONY has said that one account of PS+ enables all accounts in the console for multiplayer and play content, both purchased and PS+ Freebies and that you don't need PS+ to access services you already pay for (Netflix, Free-To-Play games, etc) that's a clear answer and way to let us know that PS+ is there for the value it offers rather than some lock to use internet services on X1 like on X360

Now that DRM is not there it and launching head to head, it's gonna be interesting to see how big the X360 installbase is, those millions today includes lots of RROD and backup units, myself owned 4 X360...not every X360/PS3 will uppgrade of course but ratio should be similar.

MSFT will now have an excuse to kill the X360 support since the "stick to the X360" to play offline is not needed anymore, they did't "hear" gamers for free...that will be their way to try to force people to upgrade, they will blame it on some XBL BS friendlist cap or Major Nelson not having time to blog both platforms.... but I can bet there are more X360 owners switching to PS4 than the other way around.

Perjoss3962d ago

the cloud is marketing bs, if it was a real boost to anything they would be showing it off like crazy, but what are they doing instead? they are just talking about its potential and how great it will be in future. Besides, many people experienced in games development have stated that they have no clue how this feature will improve anything.

I try to be as positive as I can usually, but I like to see proof when people hype something to be the next big thing, I've been fooled too many times (I am a huge fool after all) in the past by crap like this.

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MysticStrummer3961d ago

@Ed - What you're ignoring is how slow the cloud will be due to internet connection speeds. The kind of cloud computing MS is implying is merely PR talk, and will remain so for at least another generation, if not longer.

I see you're still sticking with your theory about the entire internet being overrun by Sony fanboys. The entire internet...

smh

THamm3962d ago

MS didn't listen to fans, they listened to sales figures. After seeing Sony overwhelm sales they switched and are trying to blame us the gamers. Even the pubs started jumping on PS4.

Cueil3962d ago

fans and sales figures are the same damn thing

THamm3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

No it wasn't until the sales figures that they started correcting the problem. They would've stuck it to the fans nonetheless. They didn't care what the fans thought

miyamoto3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

M$ has been Played by Sony.

Now I have seen the other side of Sony. They played with M$ this year on the palm of their hand. Sony has controlled M$ mind.

quenomamen3962d ago

Like the way you broke it down brah. For me its the price and power advantage and even though people say you wont even see the difference between rhe games I think we prob wont see the difference for the first year or so, we will in a couple of years as more and more devs take advantage of the power of the PS4. Remember this is not PS3 vs 360 power difference where looking at this time. This time its significant and I will not be surprised when we start seeing games running 1080p 60 fps on PS4 while same game doing 1080 or 720p 30 fps on X1. And no the cloud will not make up for that difference cuz both systems have cloud services.

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The Real Peter Moore3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Are you stupid? esram does not make it superior to the ps4. The esram gives the 1 102gb to 32mb, whereas the ps3 has 176gbs bandwidth to 8gigs, plus 1 has way more overhead than ps4. You're a moron and a stupid ass fanboy. The ps4 IS more powerful than 1, plain, pure and simple. But you wont believe that because you are so on MS nuts. And are obviously a hutring fanboy. Now stop spreading your fud every where, its not fooling anybody except yourself.

unicron73962d ago

@edonus- Are you smoking crack rocks? This isn't the first blatantly wrong comment I've seen you make on here. Just because you think it's a certain way, doesn't make it so. Like lying in the other thread about DualShock 3 internal batteries dying out quickly. STOP LYING.

The Real Peter Moore3962d ago

He's a young kid, i heard him talking about "his dad", that sounds like a kid to me.

DoesUs3961d ago

Incorrect Ed as the above have pointed out. Given your history you let yourself down on this one.

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Thomper3962d ago

Yep, all that, plus (allegedly) 2 more years of developments time in the bag....yet.... Strangely..... I saw nothing on ps4 that looked better that Xbox1's E3 line-up??

Bored of the graphics whores, like you. I am buying both consoles, but MS seems to be taking more risks in terms of innovation than Sony is.

Oh, and it's got Killer Instinct...Uuuulllttttrrraaaaa (fracking) Cooooommmbbbbooooooo!!

KwietStorm_BLM3962d ago

That's because Sony's studios are still at work, as you alluded to. Each studio have already spoken about new IPs. Other than Forza, Microsoft didn't show anything either. It was all third party.

dantesparda3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

So let me get this right, you speak of innovation then get excited for Killer Instinct, oh the irony

And what innovation? DRM? sharing games? (Sony's been doing that for years now), what the cloud? which sony alos has? what kinect? which sony has a motion sensing camera years before MS even thought of it, what innovation?

s8anicslayer3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Killer Instinct has not been around in years and its not even being developed by rare so why are you and so many people jocking that game like the game is a killer app? I can even bet that most users on here never even played the game but only hear about it as being a classic because older gamers like myself have played it and liked it in the past.

Thomper3961d ago

@datesparda. Someone needs to learn what irony means. That isn't ironic.

@s8anicslayerb. I'm 38, I know all about Killer Instinct. As for Rare not developing it...errrr... So? Even if they were, most of the individuals have moved on anyway, and by all (hands on) accounts, the game plays rather well.

DoesUs3961d ago

Innovation in software? Really? They may of shown more exclusives as PS devs have been working on PS3 titles, you know...supporting the current system. Nothing to play at the moment?

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Marceles3962d ago

Trust ruined it for me. If they can do this, no telling what'll happen in the future. It's great that they reverted back, but I don't want to instantly reward them for it.

kenshiro1003962d ago

Microsoft screwed themselves over. Its too late to back peddle.

Like I said, Don Mattrick should be fired.

buynit3962d ago

Don mattrick... Is that the guy that wears a tux with a t shirt under? If it is then yes get rid of him! The damn guy looks like he has no confidence in the console at all.

Wtf happened to the guys that launched the 360? Cause it cant be these same idiots.

KwietStorm_BLM3962d ago

So you're saying you prefer the Xbox?

strifeblade3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Yet multiplats look the same hmmmmm...

Massive power? im sorry but i cant see the graphical advantage in sony exclusives, not yet atleast. dead rising and forza look on par if not better.

Have you forgetten that xbox one has a highly customised cpu while ps4 is off the shelf? specs on xbox should perform better than what it says on paper.

GO ASK KOJIMA OR OTHER DEVS.

dantesparda3962d ago

Link please, cuz i have never heard of these mods the x1's cpu has. But i have heard of the mods Sony's APU has

BKsecret3962d ago

SONY GAMES

Guerilla Games Team 1 - Killzone Shadowfall
Guerilla Games Team 2 - Fantasy Setting game
Sucker Punch - inFamous Second Son
Sony Japan Team 1- Knack
Sony Japan Team 2 - Puppeteer
Evolution - DriveClub
Team Ico - The Last Guardian
Santa Monica - New AAA IP
Santa Monica Team 2 - God of War 4
Naughty Dog - Uncharted 4
Naughty Dog Team 2 - Last of Us
Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo 6
Media Molecule - Play Create, Share game (not a Move only game)
San Diego - MLB
SOE Team 1 - Planetside 2 port, DC Universe Online
SOE Team 2 - Everquest Next
Sony Japan PSN - Rain
Sony Japan Vita - Freedom Wars, Destiny of Spirits
Bend - Uncharted Vita 2
MediaMolecule Team 2 -Tearaway
Guerilla Camebridge - Killzone Mercenary
Team Siren - Gravity Rush 2
London - PS Eye game or SingStar
Giant Sparrow - Artsy PSN game
Novarama - inVizimals: The Alliance
Double Eleven - Frozen Synapse
Zindagi - Move game
Clap Hanz - Hot Shots Tennis game
Tarsier Studios - new IP, either PSN or Vita
SuperMassive Games - Until Dawn, and PS4 project
DrinkBox - PSN game
Housemarque - Super Stardust
Honeyslug - Hohokum (also on Vita)
Final Fantasy XIV (also on PC/PS3)
Abe's Oddyssey New and Tasty (also on WiiU/PC)
The Witness (also on PC/iOS)
Transistor
Daylight
Don't Starve
GalakZ
Contrast
Mercenery Kings
Octodad (also on PC)
Secret Ponchos
Ray's the Dead
Outlast
Warframe (also on PC)
Blacklight Retribution (also on PC)
War Thunder (also on PC)
Basement Crawl
Doki Doki Universe
Lords of the Fallen
The Pinball Arcade (also on PS3/360)
Primal Carnage
Project Heart and Soul
Rocketbirds 2
Shadow Warrior
Super Motherload
Tiny Brains

buynit3962d ago

Oh please! Not the damn game lists again!

Tiny brains... Really! Octodad... Lmfao you go ahead and enjoy that.

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Saksoy3962d ago

You sure tiny brains aint an X1 exclusive?

insomnium23961d ago

edonus

Sooooo Sony needs to pad their exclusive games list? Compared to who? What weight does a comment like that carry when we all know the reality of the situation? Why would you say something like that?

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SephirothX213962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

What is frightening for MS is that the above is no exaggeration. PS4 has 50% more graphics power than One. 1.84 teraflops compared to 1.2. Gamers want better games and more powerful hardware opens the doors for developers to bring new experiences. PS4 multiplats will look better as a result and PS4 exclusives will look a lot better but also have higher frame rates, bigger worlds, shorter loading times and more objects rendered per frame. One might be more suitable for families because of Kinect and some online features but a gamer would have to be insane to buy Xbox One instead of PS4. People who have put a lot of time into their profiles on 360 will even be tempted by PS4.

_FantasmA_3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Nobody ever mentions the simplicity and support that Sony offers. Sony always brings games, when they are losing money and when they are making it. I could care less how cheap Xbox is or how many exclusives they have because their is something fundamentally wrong with their brain. They lack common sense, and lack empathy for anyone lower than them. These damn rich people all over the world always think they know how the rest us people should live and always try to shove their racist, homophobic, and religious views in our face. M$ is greedy corporation who wants to control everything so that they extract as much as they can from our pockets to flow upwards to their retirement and Rolls Royce accounts(trickle up economics). M$ thinks people are stupid, and while this is true, stupid people in large groups can sometimes get something done (after all, a group of stupid peoples IQs almost equal that of self aware and education person). M$ is all flash and pizzazz and they spend so much money duping stupid people (mostly in Amurica) into thinking that getting bent over is what they really want. M$ can throw money and Doritos at gamers all they want, but they will never own my heart! I may even buy a 3DS just because I feel bad that the Wii U is being overshadowed by those M$ pricks. Nintendo, though stubborn and really out date, could use some help. I mean why are were are letting M$ who screws over people any change they, survive after the 2 previous disasters. Xbox 1 was discontinued after just 4 years. Good job, M$, that's almost as long as 14+ years that Sony supported the PS2, just add another decade! Then they had a terrible launch (the "cool people" will say that Sony had a bad launch, but in reality it had a better lineup and only the price was the bad thing about the launch). Lets not forget the first year of 360 which had throw away games that were not much better than Xbox 1 graphics. It took a whole year for their first good game (Gears) to come out, the consoles were faulty, they charged for online. M$ has done more harm than good. They'be turned gaming into a thing, a product that is made for profit, where as before M$ as around we had innovation. Just look at the 2000+ PS2 games that came out with no competition? So many unique and varied games on the PS2 that never made the transition to the current gen. Why? Because people, I mean posers only wanted play Call of Duty.

extermin8or3961d ago

I prefer the Ps4 too but god knows wtf you are on about for most of that comment....

insomnium23961d ago

tl;dr. WTF is it with a wall of text like that?

RavageX3962d ago

Your avatar makes me ill. Now back to the matter at hand.

Sometimes I wonder if having an internal power supply causes the systems to run a tad hot. If that is the case then I wouldn't mind an external one.

Plus you can even use it as a weapon if needed.

Cryptcuzz3962d ago

That is not up for debate or arguments since your comment is pure facts. 14 disagree -ers cannot tell from facts to fiction.

By the way, when I read your name, I imagined an avatar like mines not yours!!!

Major_Glitch3961d ago

You've hit the nail on the head. I'm glad M$ did a 180 on there DRM policies, but when it's all said and done the PS4 is still the better system.

oscarcat593961d ago

And with all that supposed greatness the funny thing will be not many but fanboys will notice any difference in the games. And most of your comments are incomplete and onesided. Let's see after both of these toys are out and then make a judgment. As of now no one here knows but the people who made them.

VforVideogames3961d ago

*the price was lees than a ps3 when it launch
*massive graphical power wont show on games till after 5-8 years latter and so is the huge power ram.
*50 percent graphics hardware? what are you smoking?
*2 gigs more ram you don't even know what that means.
*Kinect? don't worry eyetoy is coming on a bundle too , you will see.
*the massive exclusive ps4 has? halo gow and forza= outsales ALL exclusives sony has combined.
*sonys gigantic studios? how many exactly?
*amazing Japanese developers? xbox has the best ones, MGS any one?
*gaikai online? how about cloud for xbox?
*the upgrade hardrive? I give you that one but how many of you wpuld do that?
*small elegant? I don't really care how it looks.
*ps4 works everywhere and so is the X-ONE check anywhere.
*

extermin8or3961d ago

The cloud stuff for xbox has already been shown by several tech sites and by tech experts to be mainly Bullshit PR crap... the best bits of their cloud stuff were coupled with their DRM most of us didn't want and went away along with it. A few devs claim what they are doing is only possible on Xbox1 because of it's cloud stuff yet have not shown a SINGLE thing that couldn't be done elsewhere... the fact Titan is going to be on PC and so far it appears wont need any vastly better specs than any other game-tells us everything. Sony's giagantic studios: SCE London, SCE Japan, Santa monicca-multiple teams, Japan Studios, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule-multiple teams, Guerilla Cambridge, Guerilla Studios-2 maybe 3 (but if 3 then one just works on tech/R&D) Insomniac games although 2nd party aren't done with Ratchet and clank yet there will almost certainly be a sequel to crack in time made next for next year by the main team to take adavantage of the advertising surrounding the R&C movie. Ready at Dawn (also 2nd party I think but..) Evolutions studios and of course the developers that could probably make the ps4 a worthy purchase on their own going by their last 4.. yes 4 games this generation that only got better and have some of the highest critical acclaim of any games this generation, and with two studios.. Naughty Dog will be able to make even more great games this generation I'm sure. Also there are othersI've missed I think and sony frequently gets exclusive games sometimes that do and don't get localised from japan-as much as I love MGS they aren't what I'd call the best japanese team.. and seeing as all the footage they've shown they always mark as being PS3 footage, or ps3 spec footage if you honestly think they were at MS's E3 for any other reason other than a massive wad of cash? And actually I think you'll find if you combined The Last of Us, Gran Turismo and Uncharted's game sales they'd probably have sold more copies than Forza,Halo and GoW (the last of us hasn't peaked yet so give it another month or so to be fair.) or at least they'd be very close after all GT5 last I'd heard was past the 6 million mark on it's own... Uncharted 2 and 3 alone had to have sold about 3 million+ and the last of us was already well over 1.3million in the first 2/3 days of sale apparently. 50% better graphics... yep thats simple maths based on the PS4's GPU having about that many more shaders...several more compute units and a fair bit greater power Teraflops wise. Look at he ps3 for upgrading HDD ALOT of people have. I'll agree sony haven't shown that many massive ps4 exclusives yet... but I think they've shown last gen they have far more exclusives and generally of the same or higher quality of MS's-they did have an advertising issue this generation but their new PR department and advertising companies seem to have this sorted now. The graphical advantage will show-developers have already said so; after all the consoles both run using PC architecture the devs scale up with various settings for PC's anyway, they've already said it may well be possible to have the PS4 running at a higher frame rate and resolution on many games-and before you quote anything seen at E3 evidence has already been shown that MS's demo's were running on a considerably more powerful PC units not xbox one dev kits.

insomnium23961d ago

@extermin8or

Who the hell is going to read a comment like that?

extermin8or3961d ago

you are being abit harsh on what MS have shown thus far 1st party/exclusive wise however I agree, RYSE looked good for instance but it looked like every fight was just a series of QTE's... Probably because until recently it was a kinect game. Quantum break looked good and we are yet to see much from sony's 1st parties but what we have seen I'm excited for :D PS4 FTW. Besides Sony tend to announce more games through the year not at major events than Ms I find...

plaZeHD3961d ago

"The massive graphical power advantage the PS4 has over the weak Xbox One"
Oh shut up.
Most of your point are just preferable and opinionable.

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TrevorPhillips3962d ago

Let me just say that IF they can bring a patch that will get rid of the whole DRM and so forth, I'm sure they can bring another patch that will either bring the features back at once or slowly and slowly towards the coming months without the customers knowing. I mean, MS want to do this just to bring the consumers back to their side then BAM! bring everything back!

But then another thought came to mind that, if they were to do such thing then they could be sued for billions over false advertisement. RROD all over LOL

4>1

unchartedxplorer3962d ago

good point. by then ms would have got their money from console sales.

Thomper3962d ago

LOL... You've not been in the console arena for many years have you? Console sales are lucky not to make a loss. Software and dlc (etc) is where they make their money.

Microsoft didn't make bad hardware/policy decisions, they f**ked up their PR - simple.

Sony has made themselves out to be the second coming, the self proclaimed gaming gods who loves and looks after gamers.

Tell that to those whose ps3's are now bricked, those who had their personal details hacked and those of us who bought Vita's and are still waiting for games to fill our overpriced proprietary memory cards, which were designed to cream as much money from gamers as humanly possible,

Yeah, Sony and their f**king halo... You couldn't make this sh*t up!!!

dantesparda3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Wow! just wow MS didnt make any bad hardware or policy decisions, it was all just bad PR. You are both crazy and deluded, so picking inferior hardware was a good hardware decision? making up the worst DRM policies the industry has ever seen was just a bad PR decision? And this bullsh!t about Sony making themselves out to be the "self proclaimed gaming gods", really? how, by just not having the same horrible DRM policies as MS? and coming out and stating so?

And then you talk sh!t about Sony bricking consoles, when they aint actually bricked, cuz they can be fixed easily with another update. And everybody knows these risks exist when upgrading firmwares, but yet say nothing about the RROD debacle that truly did brick everybodies system

Kid, guy, whacko, or whatever you are, you are delirious. But you just go to show how messed up MS fanboys really are. You's are all deluded. I feel sorry for you's, its embarassing!

Mikelarry3962d ago

they already thought about that and countered. in the TOS you cannot get a class action suit against the xbox

TechnicianTed3962d ago

Doesn't Sony have a similar TOS?

hellzsupernova3962d ago

They can't be sued because it says in their terms and conditions they have the right to change anything at any time so when you agree you forfeit your rights to sue them. Same with Sony

RavageX3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

If MS did add a patch down the road that brought everything back DRM-related, I think you would see on the CNN where thousands upon thousands of gamers would be outside Microsoft's headquarters with pitchforks and torches..for real.

They would all band together again, even help fund those who can't afford the trip so everyone can have a piece of the action. Power tools, construction equipment, bulldozers, etc...people would bring it all.

The place would be literally destroyed and Mr. Mattrick would be hunted down along with several others, blindfolded and gagged. As for what the angry gamers would do...that I don't know.

At least that's how I see it.

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Supermax3962d ago

If Microsoft can take it away with a patch they can bring it back and so can Sony.i said it months ago both companies will wait till they sell a set number of units some time after the holidays and then only then when millions of there units are sold they turn on the drm.im still getting ps4 first but if Microsoft starts showing some free to play games like Sony is doing maybe throw n a Xbox live gold year subscription I might pick one up first

The Meerkat3962d ago

If they are going to do it in the future then there would have to be a provision for it in their small print terms and conditions.

Reminds me of the SouthPark iPad episode.

CraigandDayDay3962d ago

lol Yeah, the Human CentiPad. hahaha So messed up. The actual Human Centipede movie was really messed up.

I don't think Sony is going to add it in their console ever. And MS would be dumb to bring back the DRM after they took it back out.

BlazeXXL3962d ago

Lol, no way in hell that will ever happen. Both companies have now seen the public backlash surrounding these topics. If they 'turn on the drm', so much shit will hit the fan, it's not even funny.

tarbis3962d ago

What is your basis for Sony's activating DRM? With M$, Yes. Since, they pretty much preached it like a new religion and still have not apologized for their debacle after announcing the removal.

hellzsupernova3962d ago

I believe that the Xbox one comes with a year of gold now.

Bt I'm with you companies always seem to have a way to screw us. I'm buying the ps4 and now the Xbox one is a lot more tempting for me but I know I won't use it much it'll become like my 360

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MasterCornholio3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

The PS4 seems like a better value in my opinion especially with its superior hardware and much lower price tag.

@wheatthins

"If Microsoft can take it away with a patch they can bring it back and so can Sony"

LOL it wont happen with the PS4.

BTW Sony never planned for it in the first place so its impossible for them to "bring it back" like you said.

thrust3962d ago

Xbox all the way for me, the online gaming is better!

End case closed.

GenericNameHere3962d ago

See, I never got this whole Xbox Live "online gaming is better!)" dealio. How exactly is it better than PSN? Give me good examples, and I might just believe you.

mossman3962d ago

Actually I'm interested in that as well. I hear the "Xbox Live" advantage a lot, but it's never explained in tangible terms that make any sense to me. If someone could provide two simple, everyday gaming examples of this, that would be helpful.

Cueil3962d ago

every Xbox One MP game will have dedicated servers... that's enogh by itself... This only happens because MS provides the servers

YourGreatUncle3962d ago

@Cueil
Most PS3 exclusives use dedicated servers. Resistance 1-3, Uncharted 2 and 3, The Last of Us, Warhawk, Starhawk, MAG, Socom Confrontation and 4 all use dedicated, Even Homefront a multiplat runs on dedicated servers. You can bet that this trend will continue onto PS4.

The Real Peter Moore3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

PS4 all the way for me, the online gaming is better!

End case closed.

@cueil

You mean a "virtual" dedicated server? I laugh at you gullible boy!

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MasterCornholio3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

I really dont know about that because the main reason why people claimed that XBOX Live was a superior service is because people pay for it. Now that plus is required for online multiplayer Sony will use the extra revenue to improve the service so in the end the quality will be about the same as XBOX Live gold. Also the addition of "free games" will add a ton of value to plus and make it the superior service.

IMO

MysticStrummer3962d ago

"Xbox all the way for me, the online gaming is better!"

If by "gaming" you mean server stability and actually playing, you're wrong.

If by "gaming" you mean social features, you were right this generation but won't be next generation.

Front case re-opened then re-closed then put in the shredder then burned then thrown away then buried.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers9h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g5h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing4h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H95h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6694h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle3h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere20h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN17h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos15h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN8h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo10h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies6h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger17h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic3h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows903h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto19h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos19h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long16h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel18h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator17h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg21h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos20h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola16h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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