DRM is the future so deal with it

TruTechNoid Writes

"People moaned then about Xbox live needing a broadband connection and they are moaning now about the 24 hour check in service needed by the XBOX ONE but Microsoft know what they are doing, they can see where the future of video games are going and they are not scared to be the first to kick it off in the home console ecosystem and they don’t care if they take you there kicking and screaming. It will happen and if you think SONY at some point wont latch on to this idea and implement this into their system in the future then you are hugely underestimating the way business works."

[wishingW3L]

then thank god that future is not now. ;)

[Kanzes]

Sooner or later, Sony will implement DRM too.

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

Sooner or later, Sony will implement DRM too.

Well not this gen Kanzes so lets talk in about 7 years when ps5 is out.

[rainslacker]

Does that make it OK then?

[Saints94]

Nice title, not going to get any backlash at at all.

[GadgetGooch]

I'm expecting backlash, It's about time people wake up and see what's coming and just embrace it instead of moaning about it.

[Mr_Nuts]

Your the problem with the gaming industry today

People like you think that gamers standing up for their rights, freedom, opinions = Moaning, complaining, being a whiner etc

Honestly... <sigh>

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

lol you're saying that we should just bend over and let it happen?

We should embrace not being able to play offline whenever we want for as long as we want?

We should embrace not being able to sell or lend a game to whomever we want?

If it weren't for people "moaning" I bet the XB1 would be far more restrictive than it is now.

Thanks to people NOT "dealing with it" and NOT embracing DRM as the future publishers are now afraid to be pro DRM and anti-used games.

Prior to XB1 reveal there was a lot of talk about used games hurting the industry. After E3 we now have everyone except Cliffy saying used games aren't bad/are good for consumers to have.

If you don't mind bending over then fine, good for you, but you shouldn't have any issue with people that refuse to bend over. What does it matter to you? No matter how things turn out you'd have no problem with it so why do you care if people want their rights to remain the way it is today hmm?

[HammadTheBeast]

Just stop.

SimCity says hi. Embrace that.

I for one, won't embrace throwing my rights out the window. But other people have lower standards.

[blackmanone]

He's expecting hits. Plain and simple.

[LordAtrocity]

As long as consumers stand up and make a stand against DRM then no it wont be the future. Even steam dont need you to be online to play and just because you can or because people have the internet doesn't mean they should. Their is a lot of examples of people not being able to access the internet all the time ( within 24 hours) whether their provider is crap and cuts out or in relation to where they live. If you look at consumers you can see a lot of people going for the PS, some will embrace it some won't. The amount of backlash games have got for implementing DRM is a clear indication to how consumers feel. We have the right to play our games, regardless of the services we have, what if MS decide to stop supporting it and just say nah I'm afraid you can't play your games, you can however go and rebuy them for our new console and pay a crazy amount for this. I'm not saying that more companies wont embrace it and maybe Sony will (eventually) but no people shouldnt have to stand by and let it happen and consumers are sending that message to sony. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the DRM Sony meant was in regards to companies having a code required to play online, in regards to buying 2nd hand games and or only online games, but single play games, is just a bad idea.

[rainslacker]

Or we could tell them what it is we want so we get what we want, instead of what they want.

It's pretty apparent you only consider the corporate interest in all this. Your time would be much better spent on the consumer side, since I'm going to assume that's the category that you fall in to.

The future is what the customer makes it. Companies can influence the customer, but that doesn't mean the customer will accept everything blindly, smiling while lapping up what they see as an inevitability. It's that exact attitude that you have that makes it so corporations can so easily dictate to us what the future is.

[MASTER_RAIDEN]

your attempted justification for the coming of DRM such a weak use of fallacy.

"back in 2002, you didnt like the broadband only internet but you eventually got it anyway. same thing with xbox ones DRM."

so many things wrong with that i wouldnt even know where to start.

[KingMe42]

Your head is so far up your own arse

[Snakefist30]

No Drm is not the Future!!

[lifesanrpg]

Double negative!

[CaEsAr-]

He needs a ,

No, DRM is not the future.

[SpideySpeakz]

No DRM is the future, you meant?

[ion666]

There is a lot english majors in here correcting this guy. chill out.You knew what he meant.No one spell checks everything they write on this site.it's not that serious.lolz

[MegaMohsi]

PC has DRM yet it is the most pirated platform, so what good is DRM?

[SpideySpeakz]

Its like my parents told me: If you treat people like animals and criminals, they will act like animals and criminals.

[Astargatis]

PS4 is the future...Deal with it...

[paleselan]

1. Internet activation rate on consoles is only about 65%, which means the other 35% don't have reliable internet. We cannot alienate this market.
2. In 25 years, what if the servers aren't available anymore and I want to play a "retro" game?

[GadgetGooch]

Who can spend nearly half a grand on a console and not have internet? by the time the new consoles have become cheap enough to buy for the majority in a few years then internet connections would have moved leaps and bounds over 99% of the planet, Have you heard of Project Loon by google? Look it up.

[paleselan]

It's still expensive, for some up to $100 per month. And as I said, over 30% of console owners don't have reliable internet, and we can't alienate so many people.

[CrossingEden]

THANK YOU, seriously, why are people acting like everyone who can't afford internet can suddenly afford a brand new next gen console, they're grasping at straws

[rainslacker]

Really? You have some facts to back up that in 5-7 years the internet will be cheap and ubiquitous? Given the last 10 years, it seems that the telephone companies are very reluctant to push internet beyond the major cities. The internet today doesn't even cover 50% of the populated areas in the world. Internet is available where people have money to pay for it with the exceptions of countries which have national internet.

Did you know that some people just choose not to be on the internet? Strange but true. I have a friend who cares nothing for the internet, but plays his 360 every day.

I love this argument...oh yeah, in 2-3 years the internet will be everywhere. What a joke. You live in your own little world and believe just because your interests are catered to with competing vendors, that that is the same for everyone. There are plenty of people on this very site who give reasons why a connected console isn't for them. But yeah, I guess in 2-3 years that will all change.

[cannonballgamereview]

Troll bait!

[GadgetGooch]

Why is it troll bait? im just stating my opinion? Nothing more nothing less, Im not even having a go at anyone or anything, Have you even read the article?

[ion666]

Just give it up dude, No one likes opinions here.lolz You gotta have links to evidence and pie charts to back up your argument, and a suit and tie....GO PS4!!!

[tiffac008]

Maybe not troll bait but sure is sad when an article would ask the community to become compliant to unfair changes forced upon them and waive their consumer rights along to have the industry continue a very unprofitable practice.

Before you reason about what is in the "user agreement" I would just like to explain this is in contrast of the exhaustion doctrine under the first-sale doctrine and as long as the law has no clear cut ruling that puts one over the other then I believe I have the right to do what I want with physical items that I purchased. No excuse to implement any restrictions on that.

Especially, when the majority believes that the digital age is the future, will it kill the physical media is still up for debate but no way is DRM the future. Its unnecessary to the path the industry is tracking to.

I rather see the developers and publishers have the correct expectation when creating their games that can lead to a more balance budget. We do not even know if they are just trying to recoup the expenses from the production cost of the game or money lost to other investements. You know there is sometning wrong when games that sells in the millions did not meet their targets (Resident Evil 6 & Tomb Raider anyone?)

Fix that first before putting restrictions on the community that made them rich and famous through out the years.

[aaron5829]

it might be the future... but if i have a choice... i wont want to deal with it... so the choice is ps4 baby! screw DRM!

[Corpser]

Yep some people are so naive.. How about in the middle of next gen most games are released digital only, what are people going to do? The launch models will have 500GB so is not like this gen where people have only 60-80GB so digital don't make sense to them

[KentBlake]

Say that to GOG.com, CD Projekt RED, Nintendo and Sony.

Hell, even Apple removed DRM from their iTunes songs.

[Blackdeath_663]

yep! if console will have drm then GOG is where its at! may get witcher 3 from there to show support

[bonafide732]

DRM is the future but as I heard someone say "there has to be a better way to apply it"

Simply accepting it just because tho has never been my way and never will

[Yeezus]

I feel bad for any kids that get a Xbox One for xmas and don't have internet connection lol

[bonafide732]

exactly or their parents who dont realize this and are wondering why a game wont work..

[breakpad]

No IT IS NOT screw yourself ..in this generation by boycotting Crapbox one we can give them the message that DRM and online authetication is not acceptable ...we the consumers decide what they sell, what they make .what we like NOT them

[Stefanrules7]

If this is the future and nobody wants it, people will flock to whoever is not forcing this on you. People are joining Sony now and i bet if they did this next next gen, people would go to Nintendo.

[Theyellowflash30]

Naw, I'll pass. Got a Wii U and 3DS that don't have any DRM. Plus my PC does't. I can play Steam games offline. You guys deal with it, and I'll continue to have my freedom.

[MasterCornholio]

I wont have to deal with it but future XBOX One owners will have to deal with it.

LOL

P.S Even Nintendo fans dont have to deal with it.

ROFL

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

People just have to accept that fact that Sony will not implement the same DRM system as Microsoft.

[Baka-akaB]

Tired of bloggers and journalists more interest in defending corporate interests over its readership .

True or not , dont you have better things to do than insulting them with "deal with it" antics ?

[ltachiUchiha]

Totally agree & its not like this will persuade me to buy an xbox one. I said it before e3, if they dont drop all the restrictions, i will not support their system & is why i am happy to have pre ordered 2 ps4's for me & my son. The last thing, i need is for me or my son not to be able to play a game anytime we want & having to be always online is bs because sharing bandwith is not as fun as microsoft makes it out to be & they act like every home has top of the line internet which is false. Some ppl dont have internet so why force consumers to jump online. I can only imagine our military folks would have to go through, luckily for them the ps4 is here to save them. Thank u sony for listening to gamers.

[spektical]

DRM is not the future, not unless consumers stop speaking out against it and voting with their wallets. The consumer's power is vastly underrated. Without consumers you have no product, and is even more dangerous to tamper with when your product is based on a resource of luxury than of need. I'm sure many people would stop "gaming" if the price and rules were ludicrous, I know i would.

[manny1up]

Hell NO.. if DRM is the future then count me OUT .. i'd rather spend my time playing sports , Retro video games then supporting DRM consoles .

[lucidity]

Sorry, but if the market won't bear a console with DRM then DRM is not the future. This is not the fait accompli Microsoft PR want us to think it is.

[OrionNoctis]

It'll only be the future if the Xbone is successful imo...

[Themba76]

well if drm is the future then consoles are screwed. consoles had an advantage over pc's regarding it's ease of use and you could trade in and rent games now in the future you can't do nether. essentually all consoles in the future will be pc's that you can't upgrade.
and I don't want to hear about some cloud pr bull ether. at least with a pc I can have raw upgradeable power with cloud tech and consoles will have absolutely no advantage. so in the future R.I.P consoles.

[SALT]

frrrrrrk i hate Sony fanboys - stop stealing our air.

Biggest bunch of crumbs ever witnessed. Just buy ya frrkn console and shut ya pieholes. Stop ruining informative content with all ya bullshit day in day out. Youre ill informed "conspiracies" your anti consumer anti DRM anti MS yadda yadda yadda dribble at every piece of nerdbaiting journalism spawn 20 impressionable clones when there is some real truths and content on the table. Youre nothing more than a blight on this entire E3 next gen launch. I wish i could do a Skorpion from MK "come over here" and crush ya windpipes

[ltachiUchiha]

Watch out guys we have an uninformed keyboard warrior here lol.

[Welcome2Die]

I read your comment with an Irish accent.

[Kayant]

Well it doesn't need to happen any time soon the infrastructure is not there in many countries and internet speeds are not fast enough to justify to time it takes to download a 20gb+ game and let's not forget many ISP have strict caps in many countries thankfully not here in the uk. And if it does come to that I personally will just become a PC gamer as I can have the best of both worlds which is Steam sales and many non drm games that are available from other digital stores.

[listenkids]

A quick question, why is it the future?

[ltachiUchiha]

Its not the future. We can still take a stand and keep it the way it is. Do u feel the ps2 era coming back? Then we dont have to worry aslong as we stick with the wii u or ps4, we will be fine.

[WorldGamer]

I don't agree with this mentality of rolling over and taking it. It goes without saying that fighting back allows these companies to change their policies until both the consumer and the company get something that is mutually beneficial.

Think of it like haggling for a car, you have a low price (no DRM) and the company has a might price (full DRM). By not rolling over, we as consumers have a chance of getting something that is more appealing to us and at the same time flexing our consumer muscle and showing MS, SONY, Nintendo, etc. that we are doing them a favor by purchasing their products, not the other way around.

[TheHybrid]

I don't understand how adopting the same exact policies that have made music and movie services so amazing is "rolling over and taking it"

I don't get how being able to fully share my whole library with 10 of my friends without so much as leaving my couch is rolling over and taking it

I don't get how staying online to endure speedy updates, living, real time worlds and full cloud processing is "rolling over and taking it"

I think the problem is that you are afraid of change and have no idea what you are taking about. You are grateful that Netflix, steam, and iTunes have replaced going to Sam Goody and Blockbuster and you will be very grateful for these same benefits coming to gaming in the next 5 years. Sorry to insult you but think of what you are staying. You really want to go back to owning music CDs and driving to the store or waiting for shipping for music and movies??? Think ahead!

[WorldGamer]

Well, if you take iTunes for example, I don't really use it because I have to register on a friends computer to play their music, so IMO it's too restricting. As far as movies, I pay netflix a flat fee to stream movies, but if I have a bluray movie, I can watch it with or without a connection to the internet.

Some restrictions are understandable, but others are just plain WRONG. Not being able to play a SINGLE PLAYER game offline for more than 24 hours is WRONG. Having to check in every 24 hours is WRONG. Restricting my ability to sell physical disks to whomever I wish to, when I wish to is WRONG.

I know MS has been getting a lot of bad press, but it's not because they haven't done things that are just plain WRONG. Saying that other services have similar policies doesn't make it right.

I think ahead, but I also think of the price of this so called "progress" MS is pushing, and it's not a future I think we should just embrace because MS says we should.

Good day sir!

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[PhantomT1412]

Bad ideas are not retained, DRM/always online connection console might or might not be the future and it depends on us.

And I don't imagine for a second that these system would be beneficial to anyone except execs' salaries and shareholders' pockets...

[TheHybrid]

EXACTLY! Get out of the way cavemen and cheap ppl! I want the best possible gaming ecosystem now! I would GLADLY pay more for games and make TINY sacrifices for better game production!

[ltachiUchiha]

How is not being able to play offline games a good thing? Heck even pc's are able to play alot of games offline. Also how is it that your games u think u own are more of a freakin rental in reality, oh yeah way to take gaming to the next level of stupidity.

[D3athc3ll]

Well, if DRM is the future, ill just stop playing games and do more sport or something.

In my country internet is not good compared to US or UK standards....

So f@ck MS. In the end we (the consumer) will decide whether DRM will be the future.

Please don't buy X1!! Because for every X1 bought, a small puppy dies...

[jmc8888]

Wow so the author is a corporate whore who is trying to forecast the future and thinks by aligning with powerful interests he will be right.

Playing multiplayer games requires an internet connection.

But somehow the idiot author conflates internet connection with Xbox live. You don't actually need xbox live to play online games. People have been doing it on other consoles and PC for decades.

But you see even though he makes that mistake, an even bigger one is made when he fails to realize that DRM doesn't gain you a new mode of gaming like online multiplayer games do.

DRM doesn't grant you anything, it's only a restriction.

It's authors like these that need to be prevented from holding any power over anyone else, they're too stupid and too corruptible to be of any use.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

We need to re-Educate you *101- you need re-3ducation*101

give up your freedoms,, for some "privileges"

DRM is GOOD.

now go back to sleep.

[unicron7]

Oh look another article that tries to justify the shitty business dealings of Microsoft's new console. We all know DRM is wrong and does not have to be the future at all...unless we allow it to be. I don't intend on letting a company ass rape me over my purchases any time soon....along with a ton of other consumers. I'll be sending a message this holiday season with the power of my spending dollar.

[SonyPS4]

As long as DRM is the future we'll never have nice things again when it comes to video games.

[lgn15]

This is sad but true. Unfortunately, I can foresee all platforms going with the same DRM policies at some point. Microsoft just jumped the gun and beat people to the punch. This is why Xbox One still had more exclusives even though it has been seemingly loosing the console battle thus far, because developers won't loose billions of dollars in game lending/trading like before. Microsoft can see the future (even though no sony fanboy will admit it), and has temporarily given up a little to gain a lot. It's a smart move from business stand point.

[greenlantern2814]

they see the future alright and it is them getting their buts kicked. ps4 has a huge amount of pre orders over xb1 so when there are way more ps4 out in homes than xb1 you still think devs will opt to not put their products on the system that will reach a larger market. don't think so devs will flock to ps4. which has plenty of support already.

[lgn15]

Okay, well see 5 months from know if the console from a multi-billion dollar corporation will fail to sony's PS4

[greenlantern2814]

@Ign15.
notice i did not say they would fail just lose again.

[spoonard]

DRM is the future?? That's bullshit. the power lies with us consumers. If we buy shit that supports this DRM then it WILL BE the future. But if we DON'T buy it then it won't be.

[quenomamen]

So are low sales, deal with that.

[RickHiggity]

Not to that extreme. Steam has DRM too, but at least theres an offline feature just in case.

[Welcome2Die]

Its the future if you buy into it. Do not let this happen! Buy a PS4!!!

[greenlantern2814]

@jokesOnyou
i notice you say ms will make sony see that DD is the way to go but sony currently offers plenty of DD and lots of day one digital. but sony believes in offering options that you the consumer can use or not.
also stop with the wait and see crap this has become the battle cry for all ms fans. i know plenty of xbox360 owners who dont have internet but really want an xb1 but are being shut out by ms policies xb1 and ms are hurting themselves

[Awesome-Xanto]

I have dealt with it... how? By no longer owning a console or using Steam. I buy all my games from GOG now and have never been happier. Sure the games aren't new releases, but so what? They release new games to it every week, and there are so many games that they have that I have never played so there new to me.

I like simple, I like the way gaming was... you buy a game and you play... no BS. GOG gives me that.

For those who don't know there is a major sale at GOG this week and the game torchlight free which you have 2 days to get. Don't miss out. :P

[Monkeysmarts]

Um, no.

If you want an Xbox One, that's fine. Go waste your money if you want, no one is stopping you. You don't have to justify all the bs policies like DRM by trying to say "EVERYONE WILL DO IT EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!1! !" No, everyone will not do it eventually.

Some developers are very much against it and companies such as CD Projekt RED have made it known that they feel DRM is the worst idea ever in gaming. EA has called DRM a failed policy. FRICKIN EA!!! If EA realized DRM is a horrible policy and MS cannot, that should tell you something about the guys calling the shots at MS right now. Windows 8, garbage. Surface, garbage. Internet Explorer, garbage. Xbox One, garbage. Maintaining the status quo I guess.

Still waiting for someone to tell me why the company who finished in THIRD this generation is the company that sets the standard for next generation.

[maniacmayhem]

It is the future...25 years from now into the future!

[Ben12]

you blind ps fan boys. drm is with your precious ps4 also. ea or any other third party devs have the say on trade or lend on your ps4 also. Just that Microsoft has the balls to come out and tell the truth. unlike playstation who will tell you what you want to here. mark my words ps4 will also have some form of drm. as specially now when you are paying for your plus subscription. oh remember the days of free online because sony cares about gamers they would never charge for online. "BAM IN YOUR FACE" drm is next ps fan boys.

[Monkeysmarts]

I'm no fanboy at all, but I think you're the blind one. MS is the only console doing DRM. Well, maybe Steam Box just because Steam has DRM. Sony isn't doing it and they've left it up to 3rd party publishers if they want to do it in their games, but none of them will. Sony killed online passes. I don't know why any company would want to risk taking the DRM hit with their games on PS4 when sales are hard enough to count on. They don't HAVE to do it on PS4 just because MS made it a mandatory built in part of XB1. XB1 will be in last place, why do people keep saying everyone has to follow XB1?

[unicron7]

"They don't HAVE to do it on PS4 just because MS made it a mandatory built in part of XB1. XB1 will be in last place, why do people keep saying everyone has to follow XB1?"

It's a defense mechanism man. It truly is a negative thing for the XB1 to have, "but if XB1 has it then suuuurely PS4 will have it." It's a way of making a shitty purchase for a shitty product look less shitty. It shifts blame onto the competitor, even when the competitor is doing no such thing. I just hope people wise up and stop the brand loyalty over a product that is ultimately being used to restrict people and alienate fans. There is absolutely nothing wrong with hopping the fence and buying a PS4 after the crap I have seen the last couple months.

[harbie]

More like DRM is dead.

[leejohnson222]

Look at all the Xbox apologist opinion articles coming out think and fast, MS started this no one else, yet people love to start speculation that this will come to all consoles even after sonys E3 announcements.

[No_Pantaloons]

Anyone who says that isn't getting MY money, deal with that!

[D-riders]

SOny said that they are allowing for drm and that is cool. But to force it is just bull.
dela with that

[greedybear88]

If you buy an Xbox One then are supporting DRM. Do not buy into the restrictions. Buy a PS4!

[marchinggamer]

So many people are idiots if bf4 on Xbox one has DRM on ps4 it will have DRM or it won't be on that console

[sovkhan]

"If partial used game restrictions and 24 hour check in’s means more
money for developers to make and bring me mind bending, eye melting AAA
games then bring it, bring it now."

Sum up your article, but hey just don't go assuming the majority is willing to give up on their rights to satisfy corps greed...The way i see it, is that Sony will demonstrate to Microsoft that it is taking the wrong direction.

Second thing, all digital may sound great but it won't kill physical discs, as people are still willing to buy cds and books even if the digital exists for more then 10 years now, so the same will hold true for games.

To sum it up, you are but a Microsoft minion trying to make us swallow the "deal with it" pill.

[Tzuno]

Oh no i am scared.. that's what they try to do, to scare people and to win battles even before they begin. Hurt them where it hurts the most, MONEY!!! do not buy from those who want to do this. Is either listen to the people or simply go bankrupt. It takes a strong will and a pair of b...s to have the courage to stand against this without giving up. Now what kind of men you are?

[isyourhouseonfire]

DRM = Win

[Kidmyst]

As long as they make money they will make physical media is my thought. years ago how many PC's are duying articles did we see? Tablets are the new PC,s PC's will be dead in a few years. Well it seems PC's are not dead but doing quite well. In fact the worse console gaming gets, the better PC gaming will be because if I buy a game on PC, 20 years from now I'll still be able to play it. Consoles may or may not be able to depending how they handle DRM and restrictions. IE: Xbone, can't connect to a server 2o years from now I'm willing to bet so Single player games are worthless.

[Tales RPG addict]

Deal With It. i'll deal with it by first Saying "Fuck You" and not buying the console that supports DRM.

[Godlovesgamers]

"DRM is the future so deal with it"

I won't have to deal with it, I'm getting a PS4, done.